Can we take a moment to talk about how much better big cars are than small euromobiles?

>more weight to smooth out the ride
>more crumplezone in a crash
>makes Porschefags seethe
>Can run engines with displacement that isn’t measured in faggots per metric whatever
>Huge horsepower numbers to make normies shit their pants
>Can add 400lbs of stereo, dynamat, and other QOL luxuries and it’s a rounding error on the P/W ratio

>>28458047 (OP)
Raped by Porsche

>>28458047 (OP)
>ebonics
>>28458064
>MONSTER TRUCKS

>>28458064
FPBP

>>28458069
Too ugly to even consider kek

>>28458047 (OP)
The last Dodge driver to receive a promotion is now dead and buried.

>>28458047 (OP)
You go, Champ. Everything's possible if you believe it hard enough!

>>28458047 (OP)
Never had anything against them, but your post does remind me that they're just low tech. The design philosophy of making a car heavy "just because" is simply wasteful. Old cars were heavy and inefficient because that was all the industry could do, and fuel was cheap enough.
In a way though we're going back to heavy, powerful cars with EVs, which all tend to be big sedans and SUVs.

>>28458245
>The design philosophy of making a car heavy "just because" is simply wasteful
First off, you're a faggot. And second, it isn't just because. It has lots of interior room, big back seats and a big trunk. It's big for a reason.

>>28458245
its called to the Bill of RIGHTS not the Bill of Needs
>>28458391
the european mind cannot comprehend

>>28458122
Just say you are poor, bruh

>>28458648
>not poor
>has to drive compromise mobile instead of a real Porsche for the weekends, a truck as a daily and a SUV for the wife

Pick one.

>>28458648
perro caca

>>28458667
>a truck as a daily
Disgusting mix raced mutt moment

>>28458047 (OP)
Yep. This thing is so fucking spacious and comfy.

>>28458648
You can buy a low mileage, clean, no accidents Panamera for $16.5k.

>>28458047 (OP)

next american insecurity thread
>but but american cars

>>28458648
That thing is ugly wagons are gay as fuck kek cry pussy

>>28458047 (OP)
Raped by Benz

>>28458733
Pretty based. But it also has $50+k in mods. 3.8L Whipple boosted to the sky. This thing would blow up in short order and was dismantled not long after being built.

>>28458732
I heard your gay lover drives a squished beetle thoughever?

>>28458732
>muh gay

>>28458732
That's not a wagon
A wagon looks like this

>>28459105
So it's a wagon with a coupe-like roofline. Disgusting

>>28459109
Isn't that called a hatchback or liftback or something?

>>28459111
It's a hatchback.

>>28458391
>>28458463

>It's big for a reason
It's big because otherwise average american morbidly obese carcass wouldn't fit in

and yes it's hard for european understand why americans are such fat fucks

>>28459138
Kek

>>28458047 (OP)
burger muscle classics are amazing, modern muscle ones are lmao tier

>>28459138
Cope harder. A S class is bigger and heavier.

>>28459144
Only if you’re a terminally online contrarian

>>28459186
Space is a luxury. It doesn't mean that (you) need to fill it.

>>28459272
>Space is a luxury
Yup, that's why it's great. Roomy, plenty of space and storage.
>(you) need to fill it
I don't.

>>28459105
>>28459109

Fagons need to be thrown in the crusher and forgotten about. With modern tech big SUVs and Crossovers handle better than sports cars from 15-20 years ago. A Cayenne Turbo GT absolutely fucking mogs every C6 Corvette ever made, Murcis, whatever relabeled Fiat trash Ferrari was pumping out, etc. Boomers just don't want to admit that a modern X6M, Cayenne GTS, RSQ8, etc offers everyday practicality with better performance than virtually any sports car of past eras. You really can have it all these days. The only reason to have 2-3 cars is if you just like them for whatever reason, or if you need a Truck for work. Nothing wrong with that, but you have to be actually retarded to purchase some old slow daily and a clapped out 911 instead of just getting a good modern SUV / Crossover with 600+ hp.

The only exception to this is if you mod the fuck out of something. A C6 with that 427 cammed and blown to 800+ at the wheels is worth it, but at that point you're already playing with 6 figures so you can just buy whatever the fuck you want and this discussion is a non-issue.

>>28460509
>big SUVs
Modern ones are borderline disgusting. Shitty visibility, nose too big. I like 1990s-2000s truck-based SUVs, even own one. They are the vehicles that killed wagons, by the way.
>Crossovers
>everyday practicality
Most of them are hatchbacks (sloped rear window prevents you from using half the trunk above the belt line) including the ones you named, and many others are trannyverse and primarily FWD. The visibility is even worse than in SUVs, but they are cars and that is considered normal. Own one too, like driving it even less than the truck.
>dayling modern 600 hp awd
It's boring. I don't live in Germany, and even there the only roads without the speed limit are rather straight, wide and well-organized. In all other places you can go in these cars there are limits you have to consider at least partially, and there's traffic as well. I'm seriously considering buying a 30+ y.o. classic to spice up my driving.

luv me barge
best daily ever

>>28460860
>it's boring
nope

>>28460907
>gay-wheel drive

>>28460941
>muh gay

>>28460941
>just push da button

>>28458047 (OP)
>muh crumple zones
>muh engines
the difference is clearly just the rear seat row which you don't use anyway since you don't have friends and will never have children

>>28460955
I forgot about dat
Still uglydo

>>28461062
i think she fine but will probably spend too much on a set of wheels regardless

>>28458829
>>28460950
>maybe if I post it twice they'll stop saying gay
Kys fag.

>>28460860

>Visibility
>Modern

Most modern cars have 360 cameras, rearview cameras, etc. Visibility doesn't matter. A modern F-350 is easier to park than a 20 year old Miata because there are zero blindspots with the camera system. Not to mention being high-up in traffic gives you a much broader view of what's happening in front of you, which is what actually matters.

>>28460907

Unironically based. People complain about your barge and then get gapped while you're on your phone switching the music not even paying attention to their straight-piped shitbox.

>>28461053

So what you're saying is that a 911 is essentially just a charger without rear seats?

>>28461222
in size, yes

>>28461222
>a 911 is essentially just a charger without rear seats?
Huh?

>>28461218
>Not to mention being high-up in traffic gives you a much broader view of what's happening in front of you, which is what actually matters.
That only works if everyone on the road wasn't driving obese truggs and SUVs, which they are.

And of course, accident rates and the rising pedestrian deaths disprove the rest of what you claimed.

>>28458723
our cars were better it's just that op is a stinky nigglet and genuinely beleives we still build good cars.
we built shit in the 70s that'd rape euroboxes today.

>>28461218
>Not to mention being high-up in traffic gives you a much broader view of what's happening in front of you, which is what actually matters.
i remember when you used to be able to actually see through the cars ahead of you in traffic.
but now everyone wants a taller vehicle to see the road ahead and now that everyone has taller vehicles to see the road ahead, nobody can so they need a taller vehicle to see the road ahead and now that everyone has taller vehicles to see the road ahead, nobody can so they need a taller vehicle to see the road ahead and

>>28458667
>a truck as a daily

>>28461283
Being in a tall vehicle in a sea of tall vehicles still beats the fuck out of driving a small and low car in a sea of tall vehicles. Good thing your bus sits up nice and high.

>>28461306
Yes. You know millions of white people do it, right?

>>28461273

>Truggposter

Opinion immediately discarded.

>>28461311
my car is a full size though. even though it's a barge i can still somehow see out easier than new cars lol

>>28461273
>>28461283

Truggposters aren’t welcome here. You have to go back to your shitty euro,o biles.

>>28461222

Digits. The 911 is a wonderful car for small people.

>>28461499
i didn't post a trugg tho?

>>28460509
cuvs are GAY as FUCK

>>28461218
>Most modern cars have 360 cameras, rearview cameras, etc. Visibility doesn't matter.
Exactly what I'm talking about. The visibility doesn't matter to modern car buyers and they think the lack of it can be compensated with cameras and driver's aids like lane assist, auto parking, auto braking etc.
> A modern F-350 is easier to park than a 20 year old Miata because there are zero blindspots with the camera system.
A 20 year old F350 probably (I'm a GM guy) was easy to park too because of big windows, mirrors, and lower hood height. Adding cameras to a car that lacks them is easy, cutting bigger windows is not.
>much broader view of what's happening in front of you
No with that hood it is not.

>>28458047 (OP)
whatsup tyrone

>>28461543
>muh gay

>>28459138
Euros are just as fat

>>28458732
lol true.
and I'm a multi-porsche owner but there's no defending the ugliness of the panamera. easily the ugliest car porsche has ever made.

imo stellantis really fuct up by killing the charger/challenger platforms. i had 'em as rentals MANY times and they're great at what they are (big, v-8 powered land cruisers). Dont get it twisted, they're cheap and functional on the inside and dont hold a candle to the panamera interior but they look good, are priced right and have shitloads of parts availability.
ofc everyone will assume youre black but with so many panameras on the secondary market that's a risk there too. at least charger/chally look good.

>>28461730
I wish, I want an amerifat white trash gf so that we can watch the sunset in our cheap plastic lawnchairs.

>>28458391
It's big to accommodate your fat American ass.
>>28458463
Bill of Sneeds

>>28461510

>I didn't post a trugg tho

You threw a tantrum about truggs, you are a truggposter.

>>28461944
since when is making fun of how normies think about vehicle purchases throwing a tantrum?

>>28458047 (OP)
>>more weight to smooth out the ride
False.
Tires use to be 55-75, now they are 45 to as low as 35 and feel like shit if the car doesn't have air or magnetic suspension.
>>Huge horsepower numbers to make normies shit their pants
More weight for that to not be an issue. Those Chargers are already more than 4100lbs. The CTS and G8, were the same group and they couldn't turn or move without traction control, and were in fact slow on any technical course.
>>Can add 400lbs of stereo, dynamat, and other QOL luxuries and it’s a rounding error on the P/W ratio
Now it weighs the same as a compact SUV.

I saw my first ever charger IRL today.
Sounded fucking badass!
t. europoor

>>28462414
i got 215/70r15s for my barge, cant wait to try them out.

>>28461801
Don't let your dreams be memes

>>28462328
>>28461273
>>28461283


Truggposter

>>28462446
Hell yeah. The hemi V8 sounds incredible. I'd imagine you'd get a lot of people whining at you owning one in eurolandia.

>>28462511
Good fucking lord. Burgers, more burgers!

>>28463749
luv truggs
simple as

>>28464060
maybe if you live in a bigger city, but I’m in a rural 20k pop town. nobody cares about emissions and shit around here.
but seeing and hearing a V8 hemi, man, that was sick.
that car owns every single road it drives on.

>>28458733
Benzos and Dodgers are bros, remember this.

>>28461730

any proof ?

>>28461222
911s have always had rear seats just like the Beetle and 356 that came before. The Cayman doesn't because it's a traditional mid-engine setup instead of a rear-engine like the 911 and the engine is where the back seats would be

>>28464840

I know, the poster before me was 359 degrees of retarded.