Do you guys care about engines?

More than you will ever know.

You can always count on a c-suite executive to say some outlandish, pants-on-head retarded shit. Any industry.

>>28466369 (OP)
That's what happens when you make everything as bland and boring as possible.

>>28466369 (OP)
Yep, it's all about motors.

>>28466369 (OP)
Yup people do not care what’s in it. They just want to press the pedal and make it go for as cheap as possible. Autists here don’t change that fact

>>28466369 (OP)
This is fucking rich coming from cam phasers the company

>>28466369 (OP)
Not Ford engines, no. Fold already.

>>28466395
I wonder if they have some competition on who can admit to the most outlandish bullshit during whatever party that rich assholes do.

Normies have never cared for engines, even ever since automobiles came to the masses. This has and will always be true.
However, anyone with any speck of enthusiasm obviously puts some thought into it. As >>28466462 said though, no one cares for the crap Ford makes and lets keep it that way.

People care about performance. Tires can be upgraded, rigidity can be improved, suspension can be tuned, and so on and so forth. The only things that can't be substantially improved without literally getting a new car are the engine and curb weight.
Sure, engine swaps, FI kits, and tunes for stock FI setups exist but those always cost tens of thousands of dollars. Add the additional costs of having to upgrade the entire rest of your car to withstand any appreciable increase in power and the huge uptick in catastrophic reliability issues that come with modding engines and it's just not worth it.
Nobody in their right minds plans on getting a car that they think is underpowered out of the box. Except for GR86 owners I guess but they're just delusional. My guess is that the journos took the guy's statements out of context or he's just so far removed from the R&D segment of Ford that his beliefs in that regard don't actually matter.

>be ford
>put the same 3 engines in everything
actually people don't even care about engines. this isn't a cost cutting measure; it's just what the people want!

>>28466369 (OP)
Women control the new car market, and that's all Ford cares about. Fuck no so they care about engines.

>>28466462
>>28468135
We get it, you're faggots. Get a room already and fuck.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250620034709/https://www.motor1.com/news/762807/ford-claims-less-interest-engines/
Link the entire article next time you disingenuous faggot.
What Mr. Lawler was saying is that the lack of interest over engines is because of the fact that car enthusiast culture is fading, and that modern car buyers aren't nerding out over engine statistics, zero to sixty times, top speeds, lateral Gs, ect, and just want a boring ass box to take them from point A to point B, caring more about figures like safety features, touchscreens and IT features, and fuel efficiency than anything fun.
Emissions and safety requirements are also making it really fucking difficult to be able to make a car fun AND economical.

>>28466369 (OP)
Not exactly, you can easily trick normies into thinking a car has a lot of pep with very short gears. While they don't care too much if an engine is a 3 or 4 banger what they do care about is not having the lowest engine so probably the best strategy is to deliberately have a shitty low end engine so they can feel like top shit for having the 2.0 4 cylinder instead of the 3 banger.

>>28468150
I don't think people are that good at judging, they may think their v6 is better than a v8 because it changes gears more while the v8 only has to change twice. A lot of the perception of speed is just noise.

>>28468181
They've ruined the fun of cars so young people aren't that interested anymore. Why buy a car when you can catch a plane somewhere.

>>28468131
dunno if this still happens but i remember years ago reading how the directors making csi and ncis would put increasingly retarded things related to IT in as an in-joke of sorts. in a similar vein to that scene in the limitless tv show where the guy says "we got his hard drives" and pulls out a fucking pc power supply unit lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbkernCk2Yk

>>28468208
>They've ruined the fun of cars so young people aren't that interested anymore. Why buy a car when you can catch a plane somewhere.
Most young people I know cant afford a sports car or car in general.

People aren't interested in 18th century fossil fuel technology.

>and that modern car buyers aren't nerding out over engine statistics, zero to sixty times, top speeds, lateral Gs, ect,
Because modern traffic does not allow this. Unless you're a hillbilly, you SHOULD want a nice, comfortable and reliable car that takes you from point A to B with the least waste and money. It's called having brains.

>>28468375
>It's called having trains.

>>28468376
Trains are crowded, clumsy and noisy. People want silent, comfortable and spacy cars to take them places.

>>28466369 (OP)
>*electric car sales bomb*
They're just getting desperate.

>everyone frothing at the mouth for coyote swaps
>"hmmm i think i will cancel engines"

>>28468181
That's because the average new vehicle buyer is 40+ and female

>>28466369 (OP)
Do I care about modern engines with all of those electronics and plastic and planned obsolence? No, not really.

>>28466395
Foolish goy. They're trying to gaslight people to buy EVs.

>>28468181
maybe people do care about engines they just dont care about racing stats on a car they wont use for racing

>>28466369 (OP)
Neato! The guys in charge of dodge/chrysler thought that too.
How's that working out for 'em?

>>28466369 (OP)
Yeah. Do you?

>>28468377
>>28468375
>waahh mommy there are people in the train
No you faggot. Just because you're an introverted troon who fears crowded places doesn't mean we do. I'll take the train for transportation and I'll nerd over engine statistics, zero to sixty times, top speeds, lateral Gs and engine placement. Then I'll buy the best car I can for my budget and hoon.

I mean even among car enthusiasts we care about additional things like the transmission, drivetrain, being FWD or RWD or AWD.

not buying it until i can get a pentastar in it

Ford has never made a motor worth giving a fuck about since their pushrods.
>4.6 2v is okay reliability-wise; gutless without forced induction
>lmao 5.4 triton trash
>lmao anything diesel, inb4 the 7.3 that was borrowed from International
>lmao ecoboom, at least Subaru fixed their head gasket issues
>5.0 is the vq of V8s; all have the same distinct tinny/raspy exhaust sound, torquelettes and when paired with Chinese mt82 can't rev without getting locked out

>>28466369 (OP)
It's retarded shit like this, that proves the phrase "management is management" is bullshit that only retarded managers believe.

>>28468181
>>28468208
>>28468396
Yeah it's a mix of things. Cars are too expensive (bluh bluh my not money-supply calculated inflation they're cheap goy I swear)
People in the US NEED a car and they don't have the luxury to have a secondary car for fun or the extra money to get 16mpg on their average 40,000 shitbox these days. If you could buy a 5.0 mustang NEW (not pre-wrecked for your convenience) I guarantee enthusiast culture around it would be strong because people would be getting them as their first cars all over the place.

>>28469175
>People in the US NEED a car and they don't have the luxury to have a secondary car for fun or the extra money to get 16mpg on their average 40,000 shitbox these days.

Not if they wrench. Just do it. Why anyone tolerates being tech-helpless mystifies me. Perfectly ordinary people build and maintain everything so there's no excuse for an auto "enthusiast" failing to go hardcore as early in life as practical.

The average shitbox is nowhere near 40 grand. Stop excusing helplessness. Even my legit disabledbros have multiple tagged and driven/ridden vehicles because they chose the studly way of personal competence.

>>28468941
The Coyote has the best torque output per liter of any engine besides the Ferrari V8 in the 458. It is objectively one of the most impressive pieces of technology ever put to mass production.

>>28469186
>The average shitbox is nowhere near 40 grand
You're right it's 50 grand, financed for 5 and a half years.
Also there's a good bit of prereq you need to wrench yourself as a young adult, namely your own house.

>>28468941
The Zetec was used in Formula Ford and the 2.3 Ecoboost is widely used for swaps as well. The 3.0 Mondeo V6 was tuned by Porsche. Hell even the 2.7/3.0 Ecoboost V6s are sort of interesting just because of how they are put together.

Yes and I will take a naturally aspirated engine over forced induction any day.

>>28468181
Actually, it's because basically every engine now provides decent acceleration. Back in the day, shitbox engines were seriously bad and slow and getting a better engine made a substantial practical difference. So people largely don't really care because you can buy whatever and it'll breeze to 70 mph just fine. So the focus shifts to other things like infotainment. And of course the fact that cars were rather bare bones back then. They didn't have infotainment at all really. No adaptive cruise control etc.

>>28466369 (OP)
I care about engines that don't need to a central nervous system to function.

>>28468180
Sorry we’re not all a hive mind making up fantasies about the jews insidiously stealing 4 cylinders from the engines of all us ubermensch.

>>28469191
>pEr LitRE
Faggot.

>>28469245
U liek your engines like your.....self?

>>28466373
Yes. I prefer to reliable larger displacement, naturally aspirated engines. Forced induction is always a deal breaker.

>>28471144
No one cares what ESL monkeys think, Rajesh.

>>28469240
The 2.0/2.3L Ecoboost is arguably still a Mazda-designed engine. It's just a 2.3L Duratec with fancier controls, direct injection, and a turbocharger. Still a great engine but a stretch to call "Ford."

Malaise Era 2.0

>>28471234
but i care :)

>>28468375
>you SHOULD want a nice, comfortable and reliable car
Except for the fact that EVs aren't that; they're hideous, unrepairable, unsustainable, soul-crushing abominations which make even the most hideous and wheezy of the malaise cars suddenly appear comparable to all but the most impressive of ancient marble statues

>>28466369 (OP)
>performance car
Yes
>commuter car
Even more so, reliability and economy are tantamount.

>>28466369 (OP)
This is fucking delusional cope during a time where more people than ever are trying to maintain older cars and keep them on the road. Entire new swathes of normal motherfuckers are pouring onto social media to bitch, moan, and complain about their shitboxes while searching for help maintaining them. I have seen more people turn on the Ecoboost than during the first wave of failures over recent months. People forced to keep driving their ten year old Explorers are realizing why we all told them they're shit cars.

There is a fucking reason Ram is bringing back the Hemi and offering that 100k mile warranty. Ford is fucking around and will find out, mark my words. The days of these overpriced, overbloated econoboxes is coming to an end. No one can afford them and the pivot is going to decimate a lot of these manufacturers that went all in on iCars.

>>28468376
Why would I drive to the train station to take a train somewhere only to have to rent a car when I get there? I could just drive my car there.

>>28466369 (OP)
Stop making cool engine options
Wonder why people interest
He'll for awhile even F150 only had to gay choices

>>28469234
Plenty of 20k or less new cars tho...

>>28472238
Ford lost a billion plus dollars on recalls last year

>>28475985
I'm not arguing that people should be spending this much on cars, just pointing out that they do.