>manual belt tensioner

>stretch belt

>belt and tensioner are blocked by an unnecessarily large motor mount

>changing the water pump requires re-timing the engine
fuck. this. shit.

>>28471667

>>28471668
FUCKING ORIGAMI CARS MY GOD

JUST APPLY EXACTLY 22LBS OF FORCE AT POINT A AND MEASURE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN A PERFECTLY STRAIGHT PLANE TANGENT TO THE PULLES IN THAT TIGHT ASS FAGGOT FUCKING ENGINE BAY DINKY ASS LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT

>>28471672
it made me very angry after I did a wp job for my neighbor. chevrolet engine. a 10 minute job. remove the intake, use a big 1/2" bar to move the tensioner over, take off the belt, 6 bolts for the wp, the OEM wp uses a metal gasket so yo udon't even need to fuck with rtv or shitty paper gaskets, done.
so fucking easy.

Manufacturer Service Manual, Section 46.1 - Exhaust Manifolds Removal/Replacement
>46.1.1 - Using a 4-post lift, lift the body off the frame (See Section 69 - Body)

>>28471676
lmfao. I know what you're referencing. I bought one of these and my manual explicitly states what the tension should be, perfect. no more fucking around guessing if my index finger is putting down 22 lb.

>>28471683
they want you to just sell it and get a new one, thats why they do it, they literally focus on that shit. they have gotten so good at making cars that they have become rotten.

>>28471668
wat car?

>>28471725
miata. at least this is true for any engine from 90-05. The timing belt is physically in the way, so you gotta take it off...

>>28471668
>>28471726
7M ftw

>>28471663
I FUCKING HATE STRETCH BELTS REEEEEEEEEEEE
HOW FUCKING HARD WOULD IT HAVE BEEN TO ADD A GODDAMN TENSIONER INSTEAD OF MAKING ANY BELT CHANGE A HUGE FUCKING FIGHT THAT THE SPECIAL TOOLS DON'T EVEN WORK FOR

>>28471661 (OP)
>manually locked timing belt tensioner with a spring to set it at the right tension by rolling over the engine to X degrees btdc

>>28471726
boo hoo nigga

>>28471661 (OP)
I had to go through three different belts after changing the alternator on my Panther to a 3G and it blows my mind how much of a difference three fucking millimeters can make

>>28471668
honda d and b series.

>>28471895
>changing anything on a transverse engine
no no no no !

>alternator replacement
>Step one: drain coolant
fucking wHAT

>replacing alternator might just become engine out
>odi
>das auto

>changing headlight bulb requires removal of front wheel and fender liner (on some other cars it’s also the battery)

>>28473279

>>28473279
thats nothing
>front headlight bulb requires removal of the headlight
>removing headlight requires removing bumper

>>28471922
>he's too afraid to take off the left front wheel and work through the wheel well
no no no no

>>28473279
every fucking mercedez
you want to change a light?
>step 1: remove the FUCKING ENGINE

>>28474372
that's a good point...

>>28471668
>>28471726
It's been a minute since I've owned a Miata, but as I recall you can just clamp the belt to the sprockets with a pair of vice grips to hold your timing.

I know this is kinda' a meme thread but I didn't see a QTDDTOT up and these frustrations mean some of you might know. 91 jeep cherokee, manual, 4.0 inline. 115k miles. I took it to a shop today to look at a squeak which I assumed was the serpentine belt and nothing more, guy said it might be the water pump. Then however, he mentioned the knocking in the engine. "What knocking?" I thought, I'd never heard this. I can't hear it idling but he could, when I rev it to 2k plus I hear a distinct "TOK TOK TOK TOK" in the rear of the engine. Any clues? One of the other techs said, "4.0s are bulletproof, what did you do to it?" but she's been babied and driven gentle for years. Please, even ideas as to what it might cost to fix would be nice.

>>28475868
the sqt/qtd thread just expired. u shoulda just made one, turbonigger.
>4.0's are bulletproof
they're not. if it increases / gets louder with rpms, it probably is rodknock. and if the sound is coming from the bottom of the engine. if it was at the top, then maybe it was something valvetrain like lifters or some shit that would be no big deal.
>$ to fix
engine rebuild or engine swap. $3k for a rebuild + another $2k to swap it in and out probably. if it's knocking, a bearing replacement isn't going to last long if you wanted to just do that.
engine swap...depends on how much the engines are that you get, if you buy a junkyard engine or a crate engine etc.
Get a second opinion before you do anything.

>>28471661 (OP)
Those are still a thing in some applications.

>>28475892
yes and I hate it. I once bent the long bolt because things weren't lined up just right when I was tensioning. that was hell.

>>28475778
Just hold the two hexes on the cams like this

>>28475925
>something slips and falls and then scratches your cam lobe

>>28471667
I see you've worked on VAG products.

>>28471661 (OP)
>manual belt tensioner
I use one on my race car.
Way more reliable than the spring loaded stock ones.
You have to check belt tension every oil change though.