redpill me on the FJ

>>28479128 (OP)
fgay

https://youtu.be/G83QtKJNsNo?si=_SxL7wjgaNiWj65O

https://youtu.be/2q2RiGXWDp0?si=wn84DnGWy1uC8YoC

>>28479128 (OP)
4runner, but uglier

>>28479133
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>>28479128 (OP)
I want one but the prices are insane

Elpresador drives one

>>28479339
They're cheaper than they've ever been. Cratered since COVID despite dollars being worth 40% less.

>>28479128 (OP)
2 door SUV's look cool but they get old pretty quick. Having an extra set of doors makes them infinitely more practical.

>>28479496
>Having an extra set of doors
But they do have them. Are you a fucking bot?

>>28479500
REAL DOORS, not those stupid fucking doorlets that need the main doors opened to open them.

>>28479506
Hummer H3 then. Even came with V8 and dual-zone HVAC.

>>28479562
Those were kind of garbage. The V8's were extremely rare and still had a shitty 4L60E behind them. Most have the 5cyl which has a stupid as fuck timing chain setup. It's just best to not be a special snowflake and buy a GMT800 Tahoe/Yukon.

>>28479128 (OP)
I like them, very purpose-driven car which I can appreciate. Only criticism is your field of vision but its still amusing to feel like youre driving around in a tank.

>>28479565
>extremely rare
Really? I'm not in the US, but it looks like roughly a third of them here were V8s, all of them LHD. RHDs with V8s are extremely rare though or even non-existing.
>shitty 4L60E
It's a meme. They are fine, especially late models, especially in lighter vehicles. Just don't skip on fluid changes and install an external cooler if you plan to abuse it.
>It's just best to not be a special snowflake and buy a GMT800 Tahoe/Yukon.
Didn't come under 5m length, didn't come with all three lockers at all, very rarely came with lockable center diff, have to be slightly modified to accept 35s, came with the same 4L60E while being heavier. H3 was a vehicle to compete with FJ specifically and maybe even with Wrangler.

>>28479579
A third of them are definitely not V8's. It's probably less than 10% of them. The 60 being shit is not a meme. Yeah if you treat it like a special needs child it will last forever but that's not what makes a good tranny.

>Didn't come under 5m length
Who gives a fuck? Why would you want a shorter and less usable vehicle?

>didn't come with all three lockers at all, very rarely came with lockable center diff
It uses a real transfer case and not some queer ass full time 4wd so it doesn't need a locking center diff. Most of them were ordered with a G80 locking diff. That's enough to get you through most off road situations.

>have to be slightly modified to accept 35s
Oh yeah like the FJ/4Runners are the benchmark for tire clearance lmao. j-just delete your washer reservoir and cut your body mounts off to fit 33's bro!!

>>28479587
>The 60 being shit is not a meme.
Idk, I had a heavy-ass special snowflake GMT800 with 65 and it was doing fine even with basic heat exchanger (it has that gauge to monitor the temp, and the needle usually sits at 90-95C). Same can be said about people I know with 60s, although a number of them uses external coolers.

>Why would you want a shorter and less usable vehicle?
Shorter wheelbase if you don't need that much of passenger/cargo capacity? Having 35" in a longer truck is not the same as 35" in a shorter one. H3 has been sold with 33" and is able to accept 35" without mods iirc.

>It uses a real transfer case and not some queer ass full time 4wd so it doesn't need a locking center diff.
Man, do you even offroad? All of them have transfer cases, some of them are even interchangeable, but like 99% of Tahoes and basic Yukons (Denali is a bit different) have that combo of basic 2Hi/4Hi/4Lo part-time with on-demand "Auto" mode which is very slow in older trucks and can kill the transfer case if used a lot. Hummers have a normal diff instead of that gay clutch pack in the transfer case used for "Auto", and the diff is lockable. A small number of Tahoes had BW 4482 similar to 4484 from the H2 (or vice versa, I forgot), but it's unobtainium. Toyotas usually have a lockable diff in the transfer case as well, sometimes with an option to make the car 2WD, kind of like Jeeps with NP242 and H1 Hummers.

>Most of them were ordered with a G80 locking diff.
Aka Gov-Bomb. Mine did that, but I was able to drive home thankfully. And not "locking", it's more like "self-locking" and looks really funny, you can find that on Youtube. Hummers have e-lockers in the rear from the factory instead which is way more convenient and reliable. A number of them has another factory e-locker in the front, none of the Tahoes do.

>Oh yeah like the FJ/4Runners are the benchmark for tire clearance lmao
Never said that. We're comparing H3s to Tahoes of the same era, remember?

Oh, totally forgot to mention that H3 has 1:4 low range, whereas Tahoes have what? 1:2.65 or something?
There were two cons with that car: really small windows (but probably on par with npc-slop cuckovers of today) and leaf springs under the axle setup which isn't much of a problem really.

>>28479587
>For model year 2008 there were 31,142 Hummer H3's produced. Of those, 6,881 were equipped with the LH8 5.3 liter V8 (Alpha) engine.
So like 22%, but that's only for one year I was able to find data for, and only for the US (they were assembling them in the South Africa and in Russia as well. Most if not all of the African ones probably were RHDs with I5 though)

>>28479128 (OP)
a friend of my dad has it, and it's garbage, the car is stiff as fuck, even your ass will hurt just be rolling on tarmac xD. don't even take it offroad.
also 2doors. and the interior is tiny, only buy it if you are 4feet tall lol.

>GM autists attempting to derail thread with the H3

First couple years were prem fuel only, later ones could run 87.

>>28479128 (OP)
Toyota's missing a golden opportunity by not bringing it back (with a removable hardtop) to go against the Bronco/Wrangler. Right now Ford's pushing Jeep to innovate, but Toyota joining the fray would really improve offerings.

>>28480673
>low range ratio of mere 2.566
Just accept that GM made a better vehicle.

>>28480686
>still see 4Runners and FJs
>don't see any H3's
I wonder why.

>>28480693
>Production January 2006[1] – December 2022[2]
>Production April 2005 – May 24, 2010
Idk

>>28480711
Even when they were new, they were hard to find because anyone with a brain just bought the SUVs

>>28480731
>anyone with a brain just bought the SUVs
instead of what?

>>28480741
Instead of the shitty H3.

>>28480811
Idk man, US sales numbers look pretty similar. And isn't H3 an SUV too?

>H3
>2005 33,140
>2006[9] 54,052
>2007 43,431
>2008[10] 20,681

>FJ
>2006 56,225[43]
>2007 55,170[47]
>2008 28,688[44]
>2009 11,941[44]

How many different times has Toyota sold the 4Runner? They sold it as the FJ Cruiser, they sold it as the GX, they sold it as the Land Cruiser. Gotta be a contender for most rebadged car.

>>28479344
https://youtu.be/qVKURccjS4A?si=r2u985nAHk5cghfS

>>28480921
>most rebadged car
The FWD abortions GM shit out for years beat it out
>A-body
>J-body
Note also how none of these, or the H3, seem to be on the road while there are still plenty of 4Runners. I wonder why.

>reliable
>great offroad
>look great
>shit payload
>average towing
>shit fuel efficiency
>hold their value
>heaps of mods

>>28481962
>I wonder why.
Fucken weebs, that's why

>>28479128 (OP)
Better off-roader than the new Land Cruiser.

>>28480679

That's a mistake on the sticker placed on the fuel cap. They've always ran 87. 1GR-FE are pretty basic engines.

He cute

Ive been looking into these for a bit, careful with roof leaks and rust on the frame and rear door, make sure there are no cracks. 2007–2009 Watch for timing chain tensioner leaks and early rust issues. Front lower control arm bushing wear and any cracks on the sides of the Engine bay can be cracked if the person was an idiot going offroad