https://insideevs.com/news/763989/model-3-range-degradation-200,000-miles/

More and more data out there regarding high mileage Teslas. The shocking part is how little they degrade with mileage. The biggest concern, the battery, seems to preserve a 90% charge even in the most extreme mileages. Is this a paradigm shift in the used automobile market?

model 3 is a piece of crap
cheaply built uncomfortable and dangerous

>>28481871 (OP)

It seems like time is a bigger factor on EV batteries than mileage. Electric engines are pretty simple machines so it makes sense they could handle a lot of mileage too. The rest of the car is still going to get worn down by mileage the same as a gas car though and since they're generally heavier the suspension is probably going to wear down quicker.

Again though the greater issue seems to be the effect of time rather than mileage on the battery. A 3 year old Tesla that someone drove the shit out of is going to fare a lot better than a 10 year old Tesla that didn't do a lot of miles.

I guess if you're in the market for a new one then you should go for newer over lower mileage.

>>28481871 (OP)
POS 4pot diesel bmws have been doing 500k miles without problems for decades, 200k is only considered high mileage by americans because you guys are really cheap about maintenance and your fuel sucks

>>28481871 (OP)
Could be. Electric motors have been the backbone of industry for well over a century. You have to be an exemplary kind of retarded tight ass to fuck up an electric motor at this point. Zinc plated medal in the saving money Olympics. It's the fact that fixing batteries is some kind of arcane fuck fest. No one wants to put in the r&d to make it viable and the few that are willing go out of business before hitting triple digit production numbers.

>>28481871 (OP)
>Is mileage not as important in EVs?
not really. at least, not for the drivetrain. the rest of the car will wear down tho.

>Is this a paradigm shift in the used automobile market?
not yet
the big change will come when home charging becomes possible for poor people who rent apartments. at that point, the millions of used EVs that are currently going unsold will start to move, as their natural market will finally be able to buy them, and the bottom will fall out of the used ICE market. for appliance cars, corollas and the like, not collectibles and desirable sports cars.

also expect to see a big disruption in the repair shop sector, as people will go from requiring actual mechanical maintenance and repairs, to only needing tire rotations, fluid changes and brake and suspension refreshes.

>>28481871 (OP)
>EV slop
Fuck off tranny

>>28482160
>tesla kills jeets
dude, i was already sold on them, you don't have to try so hard.

>>28481871 (OP)
If boomers didn't replace engines because 3k was too much to justify for a 10yr old car...

>>28482172
How about that battery?

>>28482168
Cool then buy one and get burned alive

>>28481871 (OP)
It isn't yet but it will be. We need a few years to catch up to Chinas battery and charging tech but then the EV needle is going to swing pretty far.
EVs are a godsend for the modern American who is too lazy and irresponsible to maintain a vehicle. After 200k miles the only maintenance you need on a EV is new tires and brakes.
I think about how the auto industry will handle a big shift in EV adoption. If you only need to buy a new EV once every 19 years, sales will decline, and if you barely need to do any maintenance or repairs, dealerships will lose huge on their garages. Will the government be forced to roll back emissions and safety regulations to make new cars last longer and cost less to buy and maintain to bring back customers? Or will dealerships take advantage of the lower overhead and fire 75% of their employees and pocket the savings.
I hope its the former because it would be so ironic for EVs to be the thing that brought back lighter cheaper cars with lower beltlines and less nannies and V8s again

>>28482266
>EVs are a godsend for the modern American who is too lazy and irresponsible to maintain a vehicle. After 200k miles the only maintenance you need on a EV is new tires and brakes.
>After 200k miles the only maintenance you need on a EV is new tires and brakes.
The fact that people like you exist is the sole reason i'll never buy a used car.

>>28482266
People buy new cars for status reasons not because theyre old one wore out

>>28482291
People *lease* new cars because the dealership has persuaded them into thinking swapping out their car every 2-3 years is the right thing to do and they can keep payments lower that way to trick people into it.

>>28482289
What regularly scheduled maintenance do you believe that an EV has?

>>28482160
hilarious
>>28482168
shill

>>28482304
Depending usage:
Tires
Coolant/s
Motor/transaxle lubrication
Brake pads/rotors
AC refrigerant
Wiper blades/fluid

>>28482266
It will be similar as with phones. An iPhone 13 is just as fine as iPhone 16. But people still pay a lot of money to upgrade. People want shiny new stuff with shiny new tech. It's how we justify a boring ass life consisting of nothing but soulless wagie grinding. That shiny new car with more elaborate radar system than HIMARS is absolutely a must buy to fetch my cheap carcinogenic Wal-Mart groceries. Also it must also be as large as a house, because more is always better.

>>28482328
Most of those don't require regular service. Driver is automatically alerted when any of those fluids need refilling.

>>28481871 (OP)
Show me how many gas pumps surprise you with this.

Range anxiety is for real.

>>28482333
That's why i clarified "depending the usage" but all those are still "maintenance" items
Less frequent comparatively, but eventually also time bound, and possibly more expensive than the average ICE car (i.e. tires)

>>28482328
>Depending usage
Well that's not regularly scheduled now is it
>Tires
Said that
>Coolant/s
Nope
>Motor/transaxle lubrication
Nope
>Brake pads/rotors
Said that
>AC refrigerant
Nope
>Wiper blades/fluid
Okay yes once every 3 years you do have to spend $25 on new wiper blades.

>>28482332
It's a difference of scale. A $600 phone every year or two is drastically different than a new $50k car. People will trade in cars now because there's the worry of "well it's getting older and it's almost out of warranty so expensive things might start breaking". But if that isn't a worry anymore and a 2025 Model S is almost indistinguishable from a 2017, what would be the point?

>>28482160
jesus chris
imagine the smell

>>28482356
>But if that isn't a worry anymore and a 2025 Model S is almost indistinguishable from a 2017
But it isn't. There are huge upgrades made to EVs on a yearly basis. Now it is true however that eventually this rapid evolution will slow down but that's still atleast a decade away. And when that happens manufacturers will instead rely on design changes to maintain a sense of superiority in newer models, as they increasingly push range/acceleration/charge time more and more with time.

The human element of just growing tired of shit will always be there too. People divorce from loved ones purely out of boredom. And that's a whole human being. I don't believe people are like to cling to 20 year old cars because that will always be a 20 year old car. The stigma of it being old as shit won't go away despite its quality.

>>28482328
>so starved for ideas that he had to include wiper blades
cope

There are people on /o/ that have likely never had their tires rotated and likely run them bald. Just let that sink in.

>>28482043
Oof the 90s called in for that statement
Live under a rock?