Say one nice thing about Kias.

>>28498262 (OP)
I have no strong feelings about them one way or the other.

>>28498265
that's not a nice thing

>>28498262 (OP)
My gf has one of these, same colour, it's mid af. I see a lot of them around, it doesn't even ride well.

>>28498262 (OP)
When I drive one, I take it for granted. I do not think about things going wrong. The dual-injector GDI biased engines are incredibly efficient.

>>28498271
Neutrality is better than hostility.

>>28498271
It means they aren't doing anything wrong.

>>28498273
it rides fine it just needs better rebound compression for bumps
the colors are REALLY boring they refuse to do anything bright or boldly metallic

>>28498274
>The dual-injector GDI biased engines are incredibly efficient.

Ours is the non-plug-in hybrid, gets about 45-50mpg (UK). It's dog slow also, so I expected more efficiency.

They exist.

>>28498278
hmm the 178hp1.6t one, or another engine?

>>28498277
I find it quite harsh compared to my model 3, which is strange as the Sportage is so much taller. She had a 2015 Santa Fe before this and that was a wallowy beast, took the bumps like it was nothing and bounced around a lot. That's a different class of car but I expected similar.

>>2849828
It's a 1.6-litre T-GDi Petrol Mild Hybrid, 150hp.

>>28498287
ah you got the lower power one found the problem
apparently the 178hp version is fine
t. reader of uk car magazines who lives in the us

>>28498284
my only experience with a model 3 is riding in them as ubers - but the ride seems ultra crashy and harsh

>>28498288
>my only experience with a model 3 is riding in them as ubers - but the ride seems ultra crashy and harsh

I have the refresh which is supposed to ride much better than the older ones. It's not perfect but I find it comfortable and handling is good enough to have some fun, but it's not what you'd call sporty.

>>28498262 (OP)
>Say one nice thing about Kias.

Some of them have decent styling. I still don't trust them mechanically though.

>>28498291
the car magazines said the refresh wasn't actually much better
teslas are scam toy cars imho
>>28498292
they seem fine - the worst part is how rough the engine is also the seats could be a bit more cushy/padded

>>28498262 (OP)
10-year/100,000-mile powertrain warranty

>>28498262 (OP)
Stinger is a modern classic. All haters suck my balls.

>>28498299
>the car magazines said

Probably because Tesla don't buy advertisements in them.

Good reliability.
Good warranty.
A lot of car for the money, a similar class German/Jap car will cost you some salaries more.
Their Niro PHEV is a great all-around car with good interior space and nice balance between physical buttons and display size.
Their EVs are the best used EVs you can buy.
Cheap warranty since Kia owners all safetymaxx.

>>28498321
>Cheap warranty
*insurance
Also I prefer the Kia nav system over Google Maps. The display makes it so clearer what lane you're supposed to enter. Google Maps doesn't show as overseeing.

>>28498317
ive ridden in teslas they are the cheapest cars ive ever been in people are blinded by hype


>>28498327
kia nav sends u on the craziest back roads though if you are in the mountains

>>28498321
>Good reliability.

>>28498333
https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/4678/most-and-least-reliable-car-brands-revealed#gref

>>28498331
I dont know what the older ones are like but my 2024 Model 3 is great, I came from a Lexus GS which I'd say was generally more comfortable, but the Tesla rides fine, is comfy, drives itself on highways, very easy to live with.

It rides a lot better than the Sportage it shares a driveway with that's for sure.

>>28498262 (OP)
they are cheap, only non chinese manufacturer in my country making a small car (kia picanto)

>>28498339
tesla has the cheapest shittiest interior of any car I've ever seen you can just tell they hate their customers
if you car wasn't electric, nobody would care at all
it's a meme
>It rides a lot better than the Sportage
lol

>>28498262 (OP)
We're getting a Carnival soon... -try getting three baby car seats anywhere near a Silverado -
So... Don't fucking ruin it for me you queers...

>>28498346
You're fine - queers don't have babies.

>>28498262 (OP)
one nice thing about Kias

Is KIA stands for Killed in Action?

>>28498383
Kocks In Anuses

>>28498367
You're cute Schlomo... Here's a (you)

>>28498262 (OP)
They look pretty cool. I would consider one if they had a better reliability reputation. I know multiple people that got screwed over by Kia/Hyundai when their korean cars -acked.

>>28498539
>I know multiple people that got screwed over by Kia/Hyundai
This.
In shill threads like this one, I hear about happy Hyundai owners. In real life, I see regret. Always regret.
It's sad that Hyundai has to pay someone to post that they own one of those shitty cars and don't feel screwed over. That money could go towards designing a longer lasting car or at least fund their warranty so that they honor it occasionally.

>>28498262 (OP)
The Stinger was pretty cool. Would have been really cool if it was 500lbs lighter and had a manual option.

>>28498749
nobody would have bought a manual

>>28498262 (OP)
They're usually better equipped for the price than you would expect.

>>28499243
No one bought it as an auto either

>>28498262 (OP)
I think the k4 and k5 sedans look cool

>>28499377
it was 2 smol

>>28499385
They should have done an electric stinger.

>>28498346
>3 kids
>obligatory shitty SUV buy
>pretends not to be bitter
how does it feel being a hole's doormat?

>>28498262 (OP)
No

I have the 2020 Forte GT. Enough HP to be fun, but not enough to make me stupid. Fuel mileage is great too.

>>28499790
>but not enough to make me stupid
But anon... look what you deliberately purchased. It's 5 years old and basically a Hyundai. It's done for.

>>28498262 (OP)
The paint still looks great when they are sitting in the pullyard for a blown up drivetrain

>>28498262 (OP)
I liked when they used literal Mazda engines

>>28498749
Its cool either way.

My next car. Looks like it fits all the boxes without having retard amount of HP.

>>28498346
Isn't there a wagon or minivan from Honda or Toyota?

>>28498336
Suzuki Honda Toyota not in top 10? Eat a dick.

>>28499949
Check again

>>28499974
Only Toyota. This is horse shit.

They sell the cheapest truck in my country and they are actually pretty good for carrying shit. Just make sure you get one of the LSD ones or have a permanent 200lbs ballast over the rear if your roads are of a mountainous third world nation

Pico! Cheapest car in Australia and fun to thash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9obzvnd34&list=PLTMUbh6wvewQdQYEGQaLxQ0PgAVtqPlp9

>>28499943
They both sell minivans but the Toyota is hybrid only - and the worst hybrid powertrain i.e. the shitty rough 2.5 L NA 4 paired with an ancient nickel battery (literally NO other manufacturer still uses nickel hydride batteries anymore)
and the Honda is just OLD it still uses the same cabin the civic had in like 2016 and neither honda nor toyota will update their minivans - the Kia minivan is a stretched version of the Sportage platform so its much newer - 2020.

>>28500121
What's wrong with old platform? If the safety rating is good, what's the problem?

>>28499942
>My next car. Looks like it fits all the boxes without having retard amount of HP.
The boxes in question:
will not last
need a lawyer for warranty work
might ignite itself for no reason while not being driven
history of being stolen, but not for the useless parts. joyriding only.

what a legacy from that manufacture! such box. many boxes.

I have Niro PHEV. Not sure if this applies to all PHEVs but it has a sport mode that charges the battery while on highways. Since my access to charging is poor, I have come to realize that this method gives me awesome MPG. I switch to sport mode on highway, the battery charges, and then I switch to EV in the city. I get way better MPG than just having it on the regular hybrid mode.

What exactly is the downside of this? And why isn't this the default hybrid mode? Because the larger battery does not charge in regular hybrid mode, only the smaller hybrid battery.

They need to make a 4x4. The only options right now are 4Runner, Bronco, and jeep, and I don't have any interest whatsoever in convertibles, which only leaves the 4Runner. And the new ones are so ugly. Not saying I want a Sante Fe either but this concept is the only thing that comes up when you search for HMG 4x4s

>>28498262 (OP)
They can be yours for the price of a thumbdrive.

>>28501035
They sell a sportage x-pro prestige with skid plates, all terrain tires, and a locking center diff - that's what I have
the tires could be chunkier - but otherwise its fine for mild off roading and shitty dirt roads

>>28501511
>but otherwise its fine for mild off roading and shitty dirt roads
so it handles roads almost as well as a stock dodge neon?

>>28501511
is car for baby

>>28501568
ive taken it to some pretty remote places and it does fine if you press the awd lock button

>>28501577
its actually the long wheelbase version of the model sold in europe and elsewhere
its a good size for me - fits a lot of stuff, but also fits through narrow roads - frankly it could be narrower so it fits better on twisties - i spend days driving it on twisty roads - its fine

also i fucked up the oil pan, the differential, the steering rack etc on my last car by taking it on shitty rocky roads - having skid plates on a unibody suv is really nice and they cover everything front to back

>>28501582
>ive taken it to some pretty remote places and it does fine if you press the awd lock button
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWGQVvUqS4k
Remote as really far in the back of the parking lot? That car can't handle rural driveways.

>>28501586
ive taken it to multiple gorges and plenty of twisting long dirt roads it does fine
as mentioned before, the stock tires are the biggest handicap and I'd like to replace them with a more aggressive tread pattern

and it has been on some CRAZY steep driveways too

>>28501588
>ive taken it to multiple gorges and plenty of twisting long dirt roads it does fine
no you haven't
8.3 inch clearance

>>28501590
that's plenty
I even forded a darn stream the other day
yes I have I've been hiking all week

>>28501582
>having skid plates on a unibody suv is really nice and they cover everything front to back
Since the stock "skid plate" doesn't cover any of that, I would loooove to see pics of your aftermarket skid plate.
>>28501637
>yes I have I've been hiking all week
Because it stopped running I assume? Kias do that I'm afraid.

>>28498262 (OP)
nobody buys korean cars other than niggers and basedllenials

>>28501651
I cant say onions mods
WTF?!?!

>>28501653
SOI BITCHASSNIGGA

>>28501651
t. BMW arab

Atleast its not a Nissan.

>>28501035
Hyundai Tucson?

>>28501646
No, the Sportage X-pro prestige COMES with full body skidplates - that's why I got it

>>28498262 (OP)
They come with 7 years of warranty here which prompted other automakers to follow with longer base warranties. Ie Mazda now also provides 6 years of warranty instead of 3. I love them for that.

>>28498262 (OP)
I would never buy a Kia/Hyundai, but they do have the best infotainment in the industry. It's responsive and easy to use.

>>28499949
Modern Honda is dogshit compared to what it was, they've fallen off a cliff in reliability and are holding on to that ultra reliable past for dear life.

>>28502113
>I would never buy a Kia/Hyundai
:(

>>28502121
I like the Genesis or the rwd sedan. It's cool. I like all their hatches, i20, i30, veloster etc. Although, I'd prefer a honder before KIA or Hyundai. Gimme a tight manual like Honda, reliable car and fun to drive.

>>28498262 (OP)
I respect who gets killed in action.

I passed my driving test earlier this year and got a Kia Stonic as my first car, it's been great so far

My next car will probably be a Carnival.
You really do get a lot for the price.

These cars are slop for middle aged women. Why the fuck are you here?

>>28502898
you get better tech than the competitors

>>28502205
the problem with the geneses is that they are
a) too small
b) the engines are not particularly competitive
the rwd layout means the G70 has only 34 inches of rear legroom

>>28502898
its very nice (make sure u get the v6)

>>28503091
>make sure u get the v6
Why? Something like 90% of them are diesel.

>>28501952
>No, the Sportage X-pro prestige COMES with full body skidplates - that's why I got it
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
Why lie about owning and driving a car you've never seen? Are you getting paid for these lies?

>>28503095
I didn't even know they sold the Carnival as a diesel. I was assuming you are American, where the choice is an anemic 1.6T hybrid or a V6.

>>28503125
um i have one out in the driveway but im not going back outside today im in bed for the day

>>28498346
Why do you need space for three baby seats, is your dog wife having triplets? Fucking retard

>>28503130
>um i have one out in the driveway
then you know that you are lying.
why? is it impressive to lie about having a shitty car?

>>28503133
it was used and fairly high mileage
why would I lie about owning a darn kia

>>28501511
>They sell a sportage x-pro prestige with skid plates
>>28501952
>No, the Sportage X-pro prestige COMES with full body skidplates - that's why I got it
So I included a picture of their "rear skid plate:
>>28503125
which covers little more than the bumper
>>28503136
>it was used and fairly high mileage
>fairly high mileage
doubt.jpg
>why would I lie about owning a darn kia
That's what I'm asking you. Why are you lying?

>>28503130
Here in Australia we get the diesel, V6 and hybrid. The diesel is by far the most popular because it gets 6.5 L/100km compared to the V6's 9.6 L/100km. It's apparently pretty reliable too. They also put it in the Sorento, and I think it might be the only option for the new Tasman ute.

>>28503131
Kids stay in booster seats until they're 7.
There's still a big advantage for minivans even with 2 kids though. You can keep the baby seats permanently attached in the second row, remove the middle seat, and then any extra adults can walk through the aisle to the third row.
With an SUV you would have to remove the baby seats and put them in the third row every time you carry any adults.

>>28498262 (OP)
They seemed to be embraced by the Afrikaans

>>28503148
>So I included a picture of their "rear skid plate:
thats um not what it has it has full underbody front and rear skidplates trust me I researched this before buying

>>28503152
> Kids stay in booster seats until they're 7.
Putting your second graders in car seats and wondering why they all end up faggy.

>>28503175
>trust me
>>28501646
>I would loooove to see pics of your aftermarket skid plate.

>>28498321
>Good reliability
>Good warranty

>>28503214
its ok their stupid website like you can check the trim levels
its mostly that the x-pro prestige is not super common because its the most expensive trim
I fucked up a previous car enough times without skid plates that that was a big consideration for me

>>28503218
>its ok their stupid website like you can check the trim levels
>>28503125
pic related, did lying make you forget?

>>28503225
thats probably the faux skid plate for the standard sportage, its a different piece there's two I believe a front and a rear for the prestige and only the prestige - most dont get the prestige package
it also comes with a heated windshield so I have to stare at little wires through the glass while I drive
but might be useful in the winter
and the cheapest all terrain tires money can buy
the interior is 100% plastic no real metal or leather at all - not on the shifter, not on the steering wheel
but - it drives handsfree on the highway

>>28503227
>there's two I believe a front and a rear for the prestige and only the prestige
pic is of the rear one, dolt.
Front one is also wildly inadequate

>>28503231
no it covers the whole thing
oil pan, steering rack, fuel tank, differentials etc all covered
trust me bro i do terrible dirt roads all the time have for years
i got this because its the only unibody suv with full skids
tho apparently subaru might have some too but those engines and interiors are even worse

>>28503238
>no it covers the whole thing
not the stock one
>>28501646
>I would loooove to see pics of your aftermarket skid plate.

>>28503246
>not the stock one
only on the prestige
most sportage's are not the xpro-prestige (sx prestige doesn't have the skids)

>>28503254
>only on the prestige
>>28503125
so you can see it again because you aren't looking, just lying
also,
>>28503148
>Why are you lying?

>>28503261
only on the xpro prestige
there's an sx prestige and an x-pro prestige
if you just search sportage skid plate it doesn't pull up the one they use on the x-pro

>>28503268
If you want to pretend I didn't do an image search correctly, pull up an image of the OEM, stock, full coverage, skid plate. I'd loooooove to see it

>>28503272
ive looked under my own darn car I promise there's full skids

>>28503282
>ive looked under my own darn car I promise there's full skids
I promise they aren't full coverage or they aren't stock. Also, the aftermarket ones don't fit your description either. So there's that.

>>28503289
they are that's specifically why I bought this exact car
you get that the prestige package is like an extra 1-2k over the xpro?

>>28503292
>you get that the prestige package is like an extra 1-2k over the xpro?
That's text. Not a picture of the product in question. Can you tell the difference?

>>28503297
I guess they don't release pictures of them? It's kinda an under-the-rader thing. Do I really have to crawl under my car and take a photo?
I mean if you go to the car configuator it will show you front and rear skid plates as being part of the prestige package for the x-pro (and oddly, I think, ONLY for the sportage not the sorento or the telluride)
Do I win a prize if it really does have skids?

>>28503304
>I guess they don't release pictures of them? It's kinda an under-the-rader thing.
Things that don't exist are frequently "under the radar".
>front and rear skid plates as being part of the prestige package
>front and rear
>front and rear
>not front to rear
I assume you've seen the pic I pointed out many many times of the rear "skid plate". It's #20 on the exploded diagram on the Kia website.

>>28503330
i think that's a different part that just like the cover for the normal sportage's bumper I forget the exact name of that piece
Do I win a prize if it really does have full coverage skids? Like if it did, you would be impressed right?

>>28503332
>i think
Is that like how you "promise"?

>>28503335
I mean I don't really know what your picture is of other than its not the actual steel skid plates that my car has and I have ducked under and seen. It's night time bro.

https://www.revmatchmedia.com/posts/2023-kia-sportage-x-pro-review-uniquely-styled-cuv

With this being the X-Pro model, you get a couple of “off road” extras. The all-terrain BFGoodrich tires make the Sportage look like its ready for an adventure. To protect it from your bold adventures, you’ll get skid plates in the front and back of the Sportage. The X-Pro was definitely aiming at the RAV4 TRD Off-Road with these options.

--
you think this guy is lying too?

>>28503343
>skid plates in the front and back
>>28503330
>>front and rear skid plates as being part of the prestige package
>>front and rear
>>front and rear
>>not front to rear
>I assume you've seen the pic I pointed out many many times of the rear "skid plate". It's #20 on the exploded diagram on the Kia website.
Oh look, we covered this exact conversation seconds ago.

>>28503347
its like im talking to a robot
you won't believe it cuz it would mean I do have a real decent off road ready machine?

>>28503350
>its like im talking to a robot
You failed a turing test long ago. I'm noting that you can't access external websites. Not even the kia website. You repeat after about 3 posts as though you don't remember having the same discussion seconds ago. You have the same conversation that you already had a few months ago where you listed the make/ model of the car you replaced. Memory hole.
And then you pretend I'm the salvaged server parts lacking an AI accelerator.

>>28503364
i think the part you are looking up is a different part man i dunno what to tell you you think all the sites saying it has skid plates are lying and its just a cosmetic thing?

>>28503369
>you think all the sites saying it has skid plates are lying and its just a cosmetic thing?
compare:
front and rear
to:
front to rear
analyze the difference

>>28503371
sigh
it has full length skid plate protection covering all the underbody
the part you listed is - I forget the name of the trim piece but that's basically a plastic cover for in between the bumper and where an actual rear skid would go - that's probably a part for a different trim but you won't seem to listen

>>28503375
>it has full length skid plate protection covering all the underbody
which is not stock

Here in Sweden I've noticed Kia today is what Volvo/VW was a decade ago - the high value family car. In any parking lot consisting of 20 cars, 4 or 5 are bound to be Kias. I actually spot more Kia than Volvo even, in SWEDEN! You get so much more car for your money and they are considered pretty reliable around here.

>>28503380
it is for the x-pro prestige trim only...

>>28498262 (OP)
My dad has a 2004 Carens and he swears by it. Only thing he had to replace in 21 years was the clutch, shit is still solid after half a million kilometers.

>>28503840
neat

>>28503549
Volvo is cheap low-effort rebranded chinese trash now. So sad cuz my family had a 240 sedan and a 740 wagon when I was little. I still remember how shitty the vinyl seating was and how hot the black vinyl in the 240 got in the summer.

My Kia has ventilated seats.

I intend to cross-shop the stinger when I need to replace my DD

>>28498691
I only know one person with a positive opinion towards their KN shitbox. everyone else bitches about quality or having to use rentals because of constant shop work (under warranty fwiw)

>>28500366
ev6 is the least depreciating car of its class here in yurop

>>28505055
evs are toys for the rich

>>28503297
ur insane bro

affordable

>>28498262 (OP)
The new higher trim interiors look very nice.

>>28506127
I think that's truly the use case scenario for a Kia - they are budget cars sure but if you compare the top trims to mainstream manufacturers - american and japanese - you get more features and a better interior for the same price

>>28498262 (OP)
That new basic Kia econobox, the cheapest model, actually looks really good in person.

>>28506141
K4 or Venue?
I saw a K5 GT with quad exhaust pipes and it looks gorgeous from the outside. I wish I had a sedan and didn't do mountain hiking so I could have a normal sedan that can handle curves. SUVs suck for enthusiast driving.

Kia needs 1500 dollars in maintenance OUCH

>>28498299
>the car magazines
IME experience they just circlejerk each other just like normal new media. Don’t trust journos of any subject.

>>28507014
What? I read years and years of them basically saying Korean SUVs were the nicest non-luxury brand and now I have a Korean SUV and its nice. I mean, the materials are cheap and everything is plastic nothing at all is real wood or leather but it gets the job done and has features I couldn't easily get elsewhere (locking center diff, skid plates, ventilated seats, hands free driving)

>>28506512
Deferred maintenance has it's own price.
Captcha: TSK H8

They're faster than Ferrari

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b82E-4oSfdE

>>28498262 (OP)
if you recycle them, the metal can be forged into something nice

Kia is the official /o/ brand. Toyotrannies need not reply.

>>28507175
I know my last SUV (owned with family) didn't replace the brakes when they started failing and it scored the rotors so the rotors AND the pads had to be replaced at additional cost.

>>28507626
based
toyota rips u off for shitty cars

quietly affordable

>>28507322
wow

My friend was a used car salesman and he said they always sold KIAs(and other Korean cars) to the customers they didn't like lmao.
They look like fucking SHIT because they're designed for Chinese NPCs that have absolutely NO TASTE.
Same reason modern BMWs look like FUCKING GARBAGE.
They're all designed for noveu rich third worlders with absolutely NO TASTE

>>28510349
wow that fits a lot for such a tiny car

>>28510349
What a champ

>>28510351
What kind of idiot walks into a used car store without already knowing what to buy? It's like walking into a viper's pit.

>>28499949
>Honda
Hey gramps, it's not 1998 any more. Hondas have been shit for a long time, especially their transmissions

>>28511641
They dont try hard enough.

bump

I'm going to get the new hatchback this year.

>>28498262 (OP)
They have 0% apr deals in a high interest rate environment

>>28514057
hatchback?
r u in europe?

>>28514087
US. We are getting the 2026 k4 hatch.

>>28514096
Oh I didn't know they still sold the hatch. Does it come in the GT line with the independent rear suspension and turbo?

>>28498262 (OP)
they are ok cars now

>>28514457
they aren't that baaaaaaad