Will bikes of the next few years go for forced induction and downsizing?

If Hondas ability to find markets before they exist hasn't weakened. Then yea, probably.

I wouldn't mind a 250cc inline 4 or 6.

>>28499296 (OP)
God I hope not.

Also Someone buy this from me plz I want to return to air cooled I4

>>28500163
I'll trade you a single cylinder air cooled scooter and a firm handshake.

>>28499296 (OP)
no. the turbo lag makes them unpredictable to balance the suspension when turning. only time you really see turbo bikes do anything is drag racing, hill climbs, and pikes peak cause the air is so thin the turbos spool instantly.

having an unpredictable bike is just not good business to sell the the average consumer.

>>28499296 (OP)
Manufacturers will never boost bikes. They would be too powerful and slowfags would bitch about the heckin' turbo lag kek. So fucking stupid they want "usable torque" and then they buy some 6 speed cuckbike with tight as fuck gears and all the torque off idle with 0 top end.

>>28500180
>cause the air is so thin the turbos spool instantly
Lol wrenchlet faggot don't ever talk about engines ever again, when it's time to discuss LEDs and glue on trinkets we will consult you till then shut the fuck up. Consider honoring yourself and your family's last name by kill yourself you larping faggot.

These dudes are so funny, they'll read some clickbait article about engines, jot down a few key words, slide into an enthusiast form and start spouting shit off kek.
>THE THIN AIR MAKES IT SPOOL FASTER OKAY BROS!!!
>ITS HECKIN UNPREDICTABLE!!
fucking leeeeeeeeeeel

No if anything higher displacement is required to meet emissions

>>28500204
>Manufacturers will never boost bikes.
I know right?

>>28499296 (OP)
Honda is already making the v-free. Once that happens everyone will copy it

600cc i4s making 200hp? Sign me up. Lighter s1k?

>>28500240
There is no company like Honda.

People forget H2 is a thing, lag isn't a problem with supercharger. But I still hope most bikes stay NA, staying light matters.

>>28500240
The big four all did turbo bikes. Unpredictable power while cornering pretty much killed the idea.

>>28500180
Those are all non-issues with superchargers, and there are some very interesting possibilities with supercharged direct injection 2-strokes, which can keep most of the power density without the reliability or emissions issues of normal ones. That said, bikes are already so efficient that there's really not the same kind of push for smaller, more efficient engines the way we've had with cars over the last few decades, and on the flipside space and weight are at much bigger premiums on bikes so it's a lot harder to implement.

>>28500163
>Harley
Ghey

Even the Italians tried their hand at a turbo in the '80s.

>>28502781
That's neat out of the box thinking, put the turbo behind the vee where a monoshock would fit and exhaust it under the seat.

>Forced induction and downsizing
I guess my question is why? The top 3 selling bikes of 2024 were reportedly the Kawa z650 (not the 500 or 900), Rebel 1100, and the 1250gs. The 650 is already only 410lbs, and the 1100 and 1250gs are 80 and 120hp each respectively. We are kind of getting to diminishing returns here, especially given how many riders can actually take advantage of the power to weight ratio of these new bikes.

Fuck man, 650 twins are doing 0-60 in under 3.5s these days. How many guys are out there trying to outrun their local PDs Chargers and coming up short?

>>28500180
anti-lag technology is pretty good these days and makes lag negligible. whether the weight and complexity is a good trade off is another question

>>28500180
What about a supercharger? Direct correlation of revs to boost, super predictable.

>>28503207

>>28503207
I want a supercharged Moto Guzzi. The engine layout is perfect for nestling a blower between the cylinders.

>>28500150
It's going the other way. Big pistons is easier for emissions reasons.

>>28503220
That would be so cool as a cruiser/chopper instead of some gay transformers ayylien looking crotch rocket

>>28505698
You need rider weight forward to have good handling. You need a tall ride height and rear end to be able to lean the thing over. The H2 is meant to be the apex predator of streetbikes, you want something like a Vmax.

>>28505703
>you want something like a V-
I need a 1954 KMZ K750 "Ural" and my belief in our lord and savior Jesus Christ, amen.

>>28505698
>That would be so cool as a cruiser/chopper
There's H2 sx

And there's no reason for the fastest bike not to be a badass transformer crotch rocket

>>28505745
That is not a cruiser in the slightest you fucking retard, it's just slightly less wrist-rape ergonomics. I mentioned the VMAX for a reason.

>>28499296 (OP)
Downsizing already came fairly common, less amount of newest motorcycles have 1200+cc engines than 15 years ago.

>>28500205
Its morons like you who defend the idea of turbocharging every modern engines that should killed from this planet.