Assuming performance is identical, should you buy the coupe or 4door form?

With modern engineering, is it just style preference?

IF THEY HAVE A BIG BOOT THEY ARE TOTALLY FINE. I DONT GET WHY HAVING ONLY 3 DOORS IS SUCH AN ISSUE. BOOHOO I CANT OPEN A REAR DOOR TO THROW SHIT IN BIG FUCKING DEAL.
ALSO SORRY FOR THE CAPS MY KEYBOARD IS BROKEN

>>28503856
Well what about people not just things?

>>28503856
I FUCKING HATE THROWING SHIT INTI THE BACK THROUGH THE FRONT DOORS
REAR DOOORS ARE MORE ERGONOMIC

I'd still prefer it based on looks and I'm not ashamed to say that.

>>28503852 (OP)
I carry 4 people only a few times a year, and the extra 2 people are usually kids so they fit in the back very comfortably.
And if an adult does sit back there they can cope for 1 short ride.
My coupe isn't rear engine so it has an insane amount of boot space, fold down the back seats and its basically a 2 door ute.
And then for the majority of the time which is when I'm driving alone, its comfy, light, nimble, and fun. Looks nicer and doesn't feel pointlessly big.
Its honestly the most practical vehicle I've ever owned.

Apparently the 8 series doesn't sell well and it isn't even appreciably bigger than a 4 series - it just I assume has a bigger engine bay to fit a v8 and that's the main difference along with better quality suspension.
If they made it a more practical grand tourer they might sell more.

>>28503863
It doesn't sell well because it's $100k for a 6cyl in America which is the market where it's cheapest.

>>28503879
I agree it is overpriced as well, but also they really made no attempt to make it remotely practical. Also 100k is still cheaper than a Porsche.

>>28503856
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>>28503882
The m850i is a definite value as a competitor to Porsche, especially the sedan. well optioned it's 105 to $110k. 530 hp out of the box.

I'm an incel so i dont need more than two seats, if i ever get a gf she will probably have a car with 4+ seats I can use if need be

>>28503852 (OP)
>Assuming performance is identical
It never is though.

I’d take the 2 door every single time. Don’t care. Don’t like sedans, just get a crossover and give up at that point.

>>28503863
The 8 coupe didn’t sell well, but the grande coupe does.
>it’s a sedan
Yeah well it has frameles windows, 65/35 front to rear space, lower seating position, lower roof line etc etc. it’s a coupe with four doors.
The 8 was supposed it be part of a special black badges sub brand that was between rolls and BMW but with the EV flop in the 2010s it got cancelled and the 8 became a lazier product with less Rolls amenities in it, the sole hangover being the crystal shift knob.

Anyway it’s a got all the structural carbon fiber of a 7 series, double B suspension, and huge hp. It stops from 100kmh about 4ft more than a hurrican. It had custom brake bias and traction control which was new when it launched and is more and more common.

It was priced to compete with the 911 and Ferrari and imo has value that a 6 didn’t have but that value isn’t present in the interior it’s in the actual build quality so nobody in the market really understood it.

They’re super easy to track as a beginner and they look awesome.

The rear seat is less usable than the 4 and prob the 2 as well bc it lacks that extended rearward roofline. Objectively one fo the best BMWs of the modern era. Needed a limited V12 run though. Shame on BMW for failing to get it through

>>28503852 (OP)

coupes are cool but the long doors get annoying in tight parking spaces, and low roof lines kinda suck when your tall. Ive only driven 2 doors for the past 8 years and just got my first sedan since then and its amazing how practical it is

with a coupe you get
>much more window
>much less NPC-looking car

>>28503852 (OP)
Coupes are more aesthetic.

>paying more for less
i'll take the sedan if the engine and internals are the same

>>28504292
interesting I assumed the 8 was fancier in suspension and all that than the 4 but never knew the deets or the rolls royce connection - bmw has always fucked up their large coupes
I've never even seen an 8 gran coupe on the road but maybe that's something for places like Miami or Los Angeles.
>The rear seat is less usable than the 4 and prob the 2
stupid they should have made the coupe like REALLY long like an s class coupe and not tried to compete with 911 since that never works

>>28503852 (OP)

Take the barge pill.

>more comfortable
>rides better
>handling irrelevant in modern day society
>identical straight line speed
>actually useful if you're a functioning adult

>>28503863

The M8 Gran Coupe is absolute S tier. Barely larger than the coupe but has comfortable, fully-functional back seats.

>>28503887
>>28503882

The M850i and M8 comp have performance comparable to the Panamera Turbo S E and GTS while remaining 80-100k cheaper and just as comfortable. I fucking love the Panamera but it's hard to justify 250k for something that barely beats an M8 and will cost 3x more to maintain.

>>28505332
panamera has a usable rear seat doe

>>28505330
fully-functional back seats.
if you are 5'6 or shorter

>>28503857
or the doggers

>>28505342

I am 5'11" and I can sit in the back of an M8 with no problems. The CT5-V Blackwing has garbage rear seats, but the M8 GC is surprisingly comfortable. The coupe is too small.

>>28505124
Hello, Ford-man. I hope the panther platform serves you well.

>>28503852 (OP)
PRACTICAL AND BASED ARE ANTONYMS YOU DUMB BITCH. IF SOMETHING IS REASONABLE AND SENSIBLE AND SAFE, IT CAN NEVER BE BASED. BASED IS SOMETHING THAT IS COOL BECAUSE ITS AWFUL OR STUPID, ITS BIG CRACKHEAD ENERGY BECAUSE IT DERIVES FROM THE WORD FREEBASE.

WELDING TWO MIRAGES TOGETHER TO GET A 6 CYLINDER 4WD IS BASED, A BMW 330i XDRIVE IS NOT.

>>28505454

Fuck off newfag

>>28503852 (OP)
2 doors are ideal for the bachelor:
>long window, tall dudes can extend seat back without B-pillar getting in vision
>slightly better aerodynamics
>style points
>quicker to use backseat as storage; no need to open/close multiple doors
>cheaper and less parts to go wrong
Pretty much any car could use a 2 door option:
>trucks, for when bed space is a priority
>sedans, for the bachelor
>SUVs, for easier parking and better offroading
>crossovers, also for the bachelor
Why don't crossovers come in 2 door configs anyways? We're already in the malaise era after all, with shitty engines, shitty qc, tacky interiors, and constrastingly colored roofs, at least give us the good parts god damnit

>>28503852 (OP)
Only poor people need a car with 4 doors. Rich people such as myself don't worry about such things

>>28503852 (OP)
Test drove a Toyota gr86 last week, and I really want to buy one. I like having doors, I see that as an excuse to keep the kids car seats in the suv where they belong. I don’t want greasy handed gremlins in my car.

>>28503852 (OP)
based as fuck, why would you ever own a family sedan grocery getter being an incel male in his 20s?

>>28505454
>PRACTICAL AND BASED ARE ANTONYMS
This.

>>28503852 (OP)
they are both

>>28503861
>My coupe isn't rear engine
My coupe isn't even RWD so it has enough space when you fold down the rear seats for two adults to comfortably sleep in the back. It's also the most practical car I've owned and I could very easily live with just that single car.

>>28503883
pardon?

>>28505124
>long doors get annoying in tight parking spaces
It's not a problem if you're a not a fatass or if you're not a retard
Unfortunately my retarded brother is a retard and opened the door carelessly onto someone else's car and got yelled at

>>28503852 (OP)
2+2 coupe with a liftback trunk is the optimal yet underated setup although it's very rare.

>>28507015
you've never had a long coupe. a mustang is really that bad because it's closer to a midsize. but i've had a challenger and a sc400 which are closer to full sizes and you absolutely can't park in a normal parking lot. the doors are just too long.

>>28505458
The newfag is you.

>>28507015

Its not a huge problem but it is an inconvenience in certain situations, if you owned a coupe and a sedan you would notice the difference immediately during daily travels. Also my autistic friend always slammed my mustang door into other peoples cars so i only pick him up in the 4 door now

>>28503852 (OP)


>Assuming performance is identical
But the performance isn't identical; that's why 2door better.

>>28507139
>Also my autistic friend always slammed my mustang door into other peoples cars so i only pick him up in the 4 door now
kek based for not just cutting the lil freak out of your life

>>28507122
>>28507015
>>28505124
the trick is to drive a small coupe/ one without rear seats. The last two generations of mustangs (idk about the ones before) are way too long.

>>28503852 (OP)
Traditional coupes are impractical compared to hatchback designs of similar size.
Roadsters/convertibles weigh more and flex more but are way more based. Co(u)pe is a compromise.

The actual problem with the 8 series is that it looks like a Mustang. The only good looking parts of it are the front lights and kidney grilles. For the price it also has an interior not much better than a 4 series.

>>28505471
>Why don't crossovers come in 2 door configs anyways?
Because more doors = more practical in the mind of an average consoomer?
>pic
I wonder why don't they come as convertibles though. I could use a little more offroad capability, but most verts sadly sit way too low and don't have any provisions for changing that.
There are two options still in production: Evoque (2 liter underpowered overstressed Ford powerplant for ungodly money) and VW Eos (1.4 FWD turboshitter without any transmission options with torque converters).

Coupes are based apart from the colossal doors. Had to learn to hug the right side of parking spots, and being unable to fling my door open all the way even in my own garage was enough of a pet peeve that I am just as happy with my move to a 4-door. The massive trunk was great, I could fit 2 bales of hay in it.

>>28507122
>>28505124
How long is too long? Mine are 52" in freedom units, never had any problem (and I live in Yurop)

>>28507435
Your car is 52 inches long?

>>28507499
No, the doors are. Are you suffering from short-term memory loss?

>>28503852 (OP)
This garbage gets utterly raped by the Aryan chariot of the Gods, the Porsche 911. Accept no substitute. Remember that brown son.

>>28507650

Porsche is the Jewmobile. Every Porsche in Florida is driven by a Jew. Then again, Jews are the ultimate evolution of the white master race, so it checks out.

>>28507952
>Jews
>white
Umm sweatie...

>>28507961

Enjoy your 9/11 Israeli chariot newfag

>>28505224
Being able to actually see to your left and right without having massive pillars in the way is a huge plus to actual coupes IMO. Some modern cars also have the pillar way too forward, which even starts getting in the way of resting your arm on the window or door panel (pic semi related)

>>28506667
WHAT?

>>28503863
I rented a BMW 4 Series for a trip in May and hated it. There were only 4,000 miles on it and there were weird rattling noises when driving, the air conditioning didn’t work right, and the interior was unimpressive. I’m not an anti BMW guy either. I loved the 5 series I rented in 2018.

>>28503969

>>28503852 (OP)
Lel I literally can't tell what that even is. They all look the fucking same nowadays. The GR86 looks like a porsche looks like a mustang looks like an audi looks like a BMW looks like whatever z car we're up to etc etc etc. It's dismal.

>>28508996
i always confuse the gr86 and supra

>>28503856
Makes the door long, which is bad for getting in and out out tight parking lots

>>28503863
They're cool but the LC500 shits all over it at that price range

I want a coupe that I know I'm not gonna use a whole lot. I'll end up in my WRX most of the time because of kids, but I'd like to have something more driver focused and better looking.

I really like the C7 but difficult to justify the $ for something that's just gonna sit around. So it's probably gonna have to be the 86 I think

luv my slc43.

>>28511468
good pick, maybe consider the MX-5/Miata too

>>28511432

The Lexus is slow, and the M8 / 850i are fast.

>>28503852 (OP)
Coupes look childish to me, prefer sedans.

>>28505454
lil b approved post

>>28508807
BMW quality has gone down the absolute shitter lately, china tier