The Kia Carnival is the single best choice for hearty American families.

I like it.
KDM truly is the JDM of our times

>>28506919
I'd like to see a Carnival N with a turbo v6 and 340 hp
Koreans just have more to prove than nips do so they work harder.

>>28506922
they should just throw the Kia Stinger engine in there

>>28506931
that's an older design 3.3L engine, it would be cool to give the 3.5L a light pressure turbo - it doesn't need 400 hp - just 40-50 more than the regular and maybe some racier looking seats that come in red and a cool forest green metallic exterior and summer tires and the e-lsd from the Elantra N

wow should I get one?

>>28506893 (OP)
Korean engines grenade themselves regularly, then the companies try to weasel out of the warranty. I'll just pay a little more and get something more reliable.

I like this thing. It's a simple box in a world of ugly angular blobby things.

>>28507820
wildly untrue propaganda

>>28507820
Can you show us some statistics that Korean cars nade themselves?

Haven't driven the Carnival but I travel for work and the Hyundai Sonata (every rental car company has tons of thes) worked just fine on every occasion. Much better to drive than the usual Malibu, Camry, Explorer, Jetta cars.

Korean cars "feel" good for the first like 100k miles then they fall apart faster than the Columbia space shuttle right as the warranty goes out

>>28507827
These don't look so good in real life. Too much glossy plastic probably.

>>28507992
>Much better to drive than the usual Malibu, Camry, Explorer, Jetta cars.
this is a knower

>>28506893 (OP)
what the fuck is a KN?

>>28508042
OP here. Am I stupid for noticing this? Am I supposed to hate KIA automatically? I looked at some reliability metrics recently and they were in top 5 in most cases (inb4 consumer reports are jews or some bs)

My Korean made home appliances are absolutely monsters in terms of reliability so I won't accept anti-korean racism as a sufficient argument here people.

>>28507827
Unf......

>>28508084
I've been reading car mags since ever and it just feels like Koreans are trying the hardest. Also I had ridden in a bunch of Korean car ubers and they are always nicer interiors than Jap or American cars.
Koreans are improved Chinks.

>>28508021
yeah. it was common knowlege for decades to not buy cars with piano black in the interior because it only looks good in photos, and now kia migrated piano black to the exterior with no opt out

>>28506893 (OP)
This fat pig gets utterly raped by Porsche. Remember that yellow son.

>>28507827
as much as i am inclined to look down on the gooks, it has to be said, at least they fucking try

>EVs will never be fun, they can't be manual
gooks make EVs with fake gears. not proper manual ones, but still

>all cars today are the same fucking blob
gooks make boxy cars, even EVs

if those slant-eyed riceniggers make a sports car with a flat plane crank NA v8, a manual tranny, and 80's wedge aesthetics, i might have to give them some of my money.

unfortunately it's not made in America

>>28508232
They don't make a mini van. Unless you mean one of these.

>>28507840
Dude I was just watching a Santa Cruz review and the engine failed during the test drive, lol.

>>28508291
a minivan has at least one sliding passenger door

Can it do a standing quarter mile from the factory in under 10 seconds? No? Then it's not the best choice.

>>28508310
you could tune it...

>>28507820
they are also rust buckets with bad electrical.

>>28508423
mine works great

>>28508423
>>28508431
NTA but the only Hyundai I ever owned rusted bad VERY prematurely.

>>28506893 (OP)
Kinda, it's probably the best out of three? Options... Not an abundance of minivans nowadays... Headroom is nonexistent BTW, especially with the dual sunroof option.

>>28508291
>They don't make a mini van
Don't give those fuckers any ideas!!!

>>28508434
probably an older one
they've come a long way on quality control with their NEWEST platforms

>>28508666
I really hope my thread DOES give Kia/Hoondai ideas!

>>28508689
I meant Porsche numbnuts

>>28508706
Didn't VW briefly sell the Eurovan in the US in the 90s/2000s? I don't think they ever sold the Sharan minivan in the US though so it's not a real risk. Porsche is VW for badge snobs. They are all spiritually front wheel drive.

>>28506893 (OP)
The Odyssey rapes this gook pos

>>28508778
TRVTH

>>28508778
Odyssey is slightly faster, yes, the engine is perhaps nicer and smoother, but the interior is way older and the tech and safety features are far less comprehensive. You cannot get reclining lounge chair second row seats on an Odyssey nor hands free driving and blind spot cameras with a feed in the instrument cluster.
Does the Odyssey even offer 360 cameras?

>>28508689
>they've come a long way on quality control with their NEWEST platforms
That will be more believable when older kias are less absurdly rare.