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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:22:47 AM No.28507084
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I was quoted $2500 today to fix this rust spot
Is autobody work really that assrape expensive now, or is the shop just insane?
They're estimating it as 15 hours labor for patching it and 10 hours to paint, with $500 of paint

I've got a welder and autism so I'll attempt it myself before paying that
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:24:24 AM No.28507085
>>28507084 (OP)
>$2500
>Expensive
Wrong hobby.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:29:34 AM No.28507087
>>28507085
>$2500 to fix a non structural 3 inch wide rust spot
>not expensive
I can literally buy your car for that.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:45:08 AM No.28507100
>>28507084 (OP)
The dollar is funny money, 2500 is neither cheap nor expensive.
>But yes it's assrape
Those wiggers run a shitshop and do 99% insurance work, every job is essentially insurance fraud on their part at a place like that because thye can get away with gouging said insurance companies. Almost based until you realize said companies will simply raise rates for YOU and never ever ever bring them down even if every one of those spic-huts went back down to 2007 prices.
You'd probably get a better quote from a shop specializing in classic vehicles with a 200/hr labor rate.
You can do it yourself good and cheap with fiberglass, just make sure to really cut all the rust off and hit it with a rust eater/protectant.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:50:26 AM No.28507107
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>>28507100
There's a company that exists solely making weld in panels to fix that rust spot because it's so insanely common on subarus, so I'm planning on just getting one and some body filler to fix it myself.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:03:32 AM No.28507124
>>28507084 (OP)
Well yeah, it's a wheel arch. Bodywork on a wheel arch takes forever unless you want it to be obviously visible, which since you went to a shop, you want it to not be visible.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:06:00 AM No.28507126
people saying this is a normal price are fucking hilarious
a buddy of mine paid $650 for that identical repair
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:08:25 AM No.28507129
>>28507126
Your friend paid for a bondo plug.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:39:10 AM No.28507151
>>28507129
Nope
You just have to find thw right Mexican.
One of the few benefits of cuckifornia
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:42:35 AM No.28507157
I started poking at the rust with a screwdriver, it doesn't look like the cancers spread that far. Like an inch up and 2 inches left I'm already at good metal. I think she's gonna make it
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:05:44 AM No.28507168
>>28507084 (OP)
>cut out the entire infected part
>protect the edges of the hole with paint or whatever
>cover hole with white duct tape
ez
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:14:43 AM No.28507174
>>28507151
>cuckfornia
So he got his uncle to do it?
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:32:05 AM No.28507187
Total assrape price total asshat labor quote.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:43:43 AM No.28507198
i should start charging more
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:44:20 AM No.28507201
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>>28507084 (OP)
Anon, rust repair is a bitch.
Painting can be done ghetto like.
But rust is hard.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:45:55 AM No.28507202
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>>28507201
After:
It was so rusty I had to come back and rivet it together.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:03:58 AM No.28507209
>>28507084 (OP)
What's the quote for a new to you panel?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:08:30 AM No.28507213
>>28507084 (OP)
>Weld
Unless there's some structural damage there's no welding needed, just sand to remove rust, putty, sand it to smooth it, prime it and then paint it with the proper color. ChrisFix has a tutorial on how to do it, check it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4vusY2-rkQ

Don't buy the code color, take the fuel door out, get it to the shop keeper and ask him/her to equalize the color of the door to the paint they sell and they'll give you the proper shade. After years of sun exposure there's no way the color code and the current one are the same
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:09:11 AM No.28507214
>>28507202
>>28507201
Okay but thats not even remotely close to op
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:18:42 AM No.28507221
>>28507213
Thanks for the advice, but I'm just going to weld in good metal. I have my welding certs and a good welder, should be a very easy patch.
>>28507187
The shop was talking about repainting up over the door all the way back to the rear of the car, basically painting the whole back quarter of the car. It sounded insane to me for what will probably amount to like 6 inches of new steel.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:21:00 AM No.28507222
>>28507209
It's a non replaceable panel sadly or I would have just pulled one for $20 at a junk yard.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:48:31 AM No.28507237
>>28507213
lol
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:07:58 AM No.28507246
>>28507221
They will paint surrounding panels to "blend".
This is if you want aesthetic perfection (but let's be real they won't get it perfect anyways).

So you should just do a cheap basic repair yourself. Many ppl have alrdy posted how.
Not worth keeping an old car cosmetically perfect unless it's an enthusiast special car.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:31:49 AM No.28507262
I got an old dude to rip the vinyl off of my roof and paint it for like 600 lol
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:55:35 AM No.28507280
>>28507246
I mean it's an imported sti, it's a cool car but $2500 for a very small spot of cosmetic rust repair is insane on a $15000 car.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:16:51 AM No.28507290
>>28507084 (OP)
Just fix it yourself you wrenchlet
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:49:05 AM No.28507309
>>28507290
Can you read?
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:50:44 AM No.28507310
>>28507087
so just do that
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 11:27:41 AM No.28507324
>>28507084 (OP)


A relatively small rust patch like that is likely still just superficial or a few bungholes underneath at worst. A sport recoating or gapfiller and recoating would do the trick.

A sandblaster is the easiest thing for spot jobs like this. Else, use a brass brush and 400 grit alox pad to remove the scale and scuff the paint to expose any underlaying rust that could be underneath. Then spray some rustoleum rust dissolving gel and let it sit to strip it all off. Clean the whole area with soap water and 90+% alcohol spray to remove any residues.
If there are bungholes, you will need to fill them and sand to blend it smooth with the body lines. This is the part where a lot of people will say to use body filler. Problem is 99% of the stuff marketed as 'body filler' are polyester resins. Polyester resins are like sponges that suck up water. And are also stiff and can crack when the substrate materials flex from loading or thermal cycling. They're honestly pretty shitty for any application that needs to actually be used and last longer than long enough to sit in a used car lot for the next schmuck to pick up.
The oldhead trick is to use structural adhesives to fill small holes or complicated geometries (do not use pure silicone; it will repel your paint just as much as it repels water). For large gaps you can just weld or braze new sheet metal in - you will still need to apply filler material for a smooth finish though. Or use fiberglass patches with the same adhesive. Bostik ISR 70-03, OB1 Multi-Surface, 3m Marine 5200, or Loctite Pl 8X are all good products. If for whatever reason you can't get those, epoxy putties like JB Weld Steelstik or Hercules Propoxy or PC-7 can be used in a pinch. Use a razor or chisel to shave off excess and follow manufacturer's instruction for how long it should set. Use a scotchbrite scuff pad or 600 grit paper to smooth with the body work, clean, and apply coating system of choice.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 11:29:46 AM No.28507325
>>28507084 (OP)
>>28507324


Look up your car's paint code online and find a matching colour coat, or take a piece of the car to a paint shop and colour match it. Or just say fuck it and roll your whole car in new Kubota Orange(tm) tractor enamel.
Get some old newspaper or trashbags or other cover and tape off everything except your working area. Scuff with 400-600 grit sandpaper or green scotchbrite pad for coating adhesion. Exceed the working area in order to create a more smoothly blending paint line later. Lay down a good rust preventing primer in areas of exposed metal (examples: Mastercoat permanent rust sealer, SEM rust trap, Rust Bullet automotive, pick whichever is available for you). Follow manufacturer's instructions for setting and application. Scuff with 800 grit sand paper or equivalent pad. Clean. Spray OEM colour coat. Set. Buff with 1200-1500 grit or cutting compound to blend with the rest of the paint. Clean. Apply clear coat (examples: Mastercoat AG111, Rust Bullet Duragrade clear, VandlGuard IsoFree urethane). Buff with polishing compound to blend with the rest of the clear coat.

Some examples of guys doing it their own way (milage may vary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na1FNBB9uxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUdSUDObwVc
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:32:20 PM No.28507573
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>>28507107
It's either this or putting lipstick on a pig with fender flares. The body panel is rusting from the inside out. No amount of surface treatment is going to stop it. You either replace the entire panel or if that is cost prohibitive you dig at the rust and cover it in inhibitor then cover the whole mess in fender flares painted to match the body and run it like that until it completely rots out. You can get matching paint from the paint code on the door sill tag. Get higher offset wheels to to make then flush with the new flares.
>t. did this with my poopbaru and trugg
The forester I got the pacifica blue pearl paint on ebay along with the clear. The clear did fail so I'll have to redo that at some point. The F150 was done in raptor liner because I didn't want to have to paint and clear such a large area and I was spooked by the rattle can clear failure on the subaru.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:34:54 PM No.28507576
lmao where the fuck do you live that you're worried about a silly little rust hole
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:37:13 PM No.28507582
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>>28507573
>cover the whole mess in fender flares painted to match the body
Learn to do some fiberglass and bondo work and you don't need to do this. I'm coming up on the 3rd or 4th year of my ghetto, phosphoric acid + grinder + POR15 + fiberglass + bondo rust repair on my rockers and quarters it's holding up fine - nobody can tell anything was repaired, either. I matched my paint color with a can of Rustoleum, too. Just dump half a can of fluid film behind the rockers and the rot won't come back for a long time.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:54:31 PM No.28507867
>>28507214
It's just an example anon.
Shops know the Work required to fix and paint rusts issues.
It's not easy or quick.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:58:21 PM No.28508205
>>28507576
have you considered some people just don't want their car to look like shit and have cancer?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:59:31 PM No.28508207
>>28507867
>It's just an example
a horrible one, sure. You're basically comparing a kid that scraped his knee to a guy that stepped on a landmine and is missing half his leg.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:00:42 PM No.28508211
>>28507582
You americans and your fucking bondo, I swear.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:01:16 PM No.28508212
>>28508205
up norf there's very little you can do to prevent the spread of cancer
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:05:12 PM No.28508217
>>28508212
undercoat, keep your shit clean, get a winter beater
cutting out the cancer when it first starts is also a good way to not have it spread.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:09:37 PM No.28508223
>>28507201
>>28507202
60's Econoline?
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:27:50 PM No.28508253
>>28508207
Stopping a contrarian faggot anon.
It's pathetic.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:28:51 PM No.28508255
>>28508253
you have no idea what the fuck the words you're saying mean. you posted a horrible example and are butthurt that someone called it a horrible example.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:49:43 PM No.28508286
>>28507324
Anon said he's going to cut and weld, not going to argue with anyones wants or methods, I'd do a proper 3-layered fiberglass patch not that bondo stuffing shit.
>sand down
>clean
>light adhesive layer
>fiber
>more adhesive
>sand and clean
>glass fiber filler
>sand and clean
>fill putty
>sand, and clean
>proper 2k prime, paint, clear
>sand out to 2 or 3k grit
And of course water protect the other side, whatever you can access.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:53:12 PM No.28508297
>>28508286
why do fiberglass if the panel is metal? seems half assed
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:53:17 PM No.28508298
>>28507202
Or you could've fixed it properly.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:57:09 PM No.28508309
>>28508298
you're telling me glue and rivets isn't the correct way to repair metal?
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:46:29 AM No.28508542
>>28508297
Me, not going to bother with cut and welding if it isn't a real structural piece. And sure there's metal meshing instead of fiberglass but if rust is already a problen why replace it with something likely a far lower grade of metal...Fiberglassing a hole does me fine. They used it to make non-structural stuff for the space station I'll use it on my car.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:56:40 AM No.28508558
>>28507100
I was rear ended last year and I took it to three local body shops to get some estimates. All of them were about 10k. Insurance made me go to the dealership and the dealership paid $4500 to insurance. The bodyshops were over double. It was just a bumper and hood and the paint. The body didn't even need to be pulled. None of them really wanted to deal with me when I said it was self pay and not insurance
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:23:51 PM No.28509395
>>28508558
>Insurance made me go to the dealership
Your insurance can't make you go anywhere.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:24:59 PM No.28509396
>>28508558
>Insurance made me go to the dealership and the dealership paid $4500 to insurance
>it was self pay and not insurance
wait what the fuck are you even saying
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 7:04:39 AM No.28510675
>>28508286
If you are covering over a fingerhole there's nothing doing rolling out a fiberglass mat. Just fill it in with your structural adhesive. If you have access to the back of the panel you could add a reinforcing patch if you like. I don't suggest bondo or other products like it for all the reasons outlined in the post.
If someone was determined to get a real durable repair job I would really suggest brazing metal first before welding when it comes to body panels (nickel bearing alloys with melt points under 900c work best with steel auto panels, hobart for aluminum). You can get better results much easier, but people are asleep on all their options since welding is the only thing 'normal' people know when it comes to metal work.