I wish giant personal luxury cars hadn't died. There's something extremely based about a gas chugging coupe that's almost as long as a Suburban.

the gooks have you covered, they're more bentley than bentley these days

https://www.genesis.com/worldwide/en/models/concept-car/genesis-x-gran-coupe-x-gran-convertible-concept.html

>>28508671 (OP)
What's the point when the Burb is just better at doing everything and capable of doing so much more?

>>28508676
The suburban doesn't allow him to be a smug contrarian.

>>28508676
>capable

But that defeats the point of a personal luxury coupe. The whole point is to have a gigantic comfortable fast stylish FUCK YOU to necessity and practicality. Let others ride around in microsized cuckboxes and capable 4x4 boxes, you're taking up a lot of space and riding in style because you can afford to.

Your phone can tell you the time, you wear an expensive watch because you can.

>>28508676
Center of gravity.

I have one, 84 Coupe DeVille, no clue how to fully restore it without dropping thousands though

>>28508676
>just get an SUV instead of a giant luxury coupe
dumb fucking take

>>28508676
Lower centre of gravity, smoother ride quality, and, of course, looking fucking cool rather than looking like you're picking the kids up from soccer practice. Shit, even if you were doing that a Continental is the sort of car your kids would want to be seen in. It OOZES cool. It makes you look like a Bond villain. A chevy 'burban just makes you look like a faggot, by contrast.

>>28508684
Are you a Euro or something? A Burb has way the fuck more interior room than an old land yacht. Even a little Tahoe completely eclipses a Rolls Royce exterior size wise.

>>28508686
Which means fucking what in a situation like this? Who is tracking or canyon running their luxury yacht or luxury SUV? Also if COG is so important why is a Jeep faster around a track than a 2500lb sports car?

>>28508695
How so? The SUV is more comfy and luxurious.

>>28508701
You Euros shouldn't be allowed to post on 99% of the subjects discussed here. It's not funny any more, it's just getting sad.

>>28508702
>EURO EURO EURO EURO EURO
sorry you're too fat to fit in a classic American luxobarge, anon. But keep coping. I'm sure the wifey loves your 'burban. She's the talk of the nail salon, I'm sure.

>>28508702
>Even a little Tahoe completely eclipses a Rolls Royce exterior size wise.
Is this bait? The standard wheelbase current gen Phantom is longer than a Suburban.

>>28508707
>I can't afford to enjoy the things I shit talk so I'm going to call you fat!!!

>>28508708
The wheelbase may be longer because the wheels on a Rolls sit at the very ends of the vehicle but the overall length isn't even close. The Burb is like 2 feet longer and a foot taller.

>>28508716
Trust the american to try and talk up bad packaging. Short overhangs are good design.

>>28508716
I was talking about the overall length, not the wheelbase you fuckin' dummy.

>>28508716
Oh, I get you. See, there's no possible way in hell anyone could actually PREFER old luxury coupes to modern gigantic-retard SUVs. They must all be coping because they can't... Qualify for a loan.

I think you should internalize the fact that people have different preferences than you and look for different things in an automobile, aspe-kun. Especially since you're posting on a forum for automotive enthusiasts that generally have poor opinions towards crossovers and SUVs

>>28508716
>>28508729
https://www.caranddriver.com/rolls-royce/phantom/specs
https://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/suburban/specs

>Phantom, standard wheelbase
>length: 227.2"
>wheelbase: 139.8"
>headroom (front, row 2): 41.2, 38.5
>legroom (front, row 2): 41, 43.5

>Suburban
>length: 226.3
>wheelbase: 134.1
>headroom (front, row 2): 42.3, 38.9
>legroom (front, row 2): 44.5, 42.0

>>28508745
I'm not even sure why I'm PHANTOM POSTING because the Phantom isn't a personal luxury car. It's a car to be driven in.

>>28508720
Short overhangs look gay. Sitting low is also another symptom of gayness.

>>28508729
It doesn't really matter. It's not like the average Rolls is a Phantom anyways. Most on the roads are Cullinans, Specters or the shorter wheelbase sedans or coupes. The Burb is much bigger than these which is the point I was making. My point is extremely large and luxurious vehicles are still a thing.

>>28508738
You can like whatever you want, it's a free country. Just don't expect a manufacturer to cater to the 200 or so people who might buy a vehicle you like.

>>28508747
>get proven wrong
>hurr durr that doesn't matter
lmao at this Suburban simp

>>28508747
>My point is extremely large and luxurious vehicles are still a thing.
A real luxury vehicle does not boast about its towing capacity

>>28508671 (OP)
I ageee, bring back couch interiors

>>28508757
I'm right though. A Suburban (an extremely common soccer mom yuppie mobile) is larger than the *average* Rolls Royce (an extremely rare $500k+ vehicle). The giant Suburban does more than the giant land yacht. End of story.

>>28508761
The Cullinan uses it's tow capacity as a selling point lol. Let me guess... That $500k SUV isn't a luxury vehicle because it's an SUV?

>>28508702
>A Burb has way the fuck more interior room than an old land yacht. Even a little Tahoe completely eclipses a Rolls Royce exterior size wise.

Son, look at OP. Do you think anyone gave one flying fuck about interior room? The car-to-passenger ratio is terrible. That's the point.
>interior room
You can't appreciate a luxobarge because you are poor on a spiritual level. Try to understand why people with money buy Rolexes when everyone has a phone that tells you the exact time for free

>>28508768
A Rolex is better engineered than any malaise barge.

>>28508768
What's with this place and romanticizing shit from the past they have no experience with? While these yachts did waste a lot of space their interiors were still far from fucking cramped. Yes people back then gave a fuck about interior room. Let me guess... You hate fuel injection and want carbs back even though you have never touched a carb?

>>28508771
A Rolex is completely inferior at telling and keeping time than the clock on your phone, which not only never loses even a microsecond and has as many alarms as you could want, but also automatically updates itself if you travel to a different time zone.
But people buy Rolexes.

>>28508773
>While these yachts did waste a lot of space
That is the point, and why 4-door Chevy is not the same as a luxobarge.
>bunch of cope about muh carbs
A modern luxobarge like a Rolls has modern technology. A Burb's fine if you're an Uber driver.

>>28508781
I'm all for big vehicles but it's a little stupid to like a vehicle or claim it's better just because it wastes space.

>A modern luxobarge like a Rolls has modern technology
A $70k pickup truck or a Burb has all that same technology. What's the point of the luxobarge?

>getting a lil Suburban when you could get a Ford Transit XLT with more cargo space and seating for 15

>>28508763
More cars should be like driving a couch.

>>28508671 (OP)
These are grate but the chrysler imperials/new yorkers are slept on; just as cool but quicker, softer, and of generally better build quality. Hard to find in 2-door pillarless unfortunately.

>>28508800
>the chrysler imperials/new yorkers are slept on
I'm glad someone else appreciates e'm. They're kinda overlooked because Chrysler was never really super popular as a brand. Dodge and later, Jeep were the moneymakers, and Chrysler itself was a bit hard to pin down. It wasn't quite luxury in the same way as Lincoln or Cadillac were but it wasn't a "Mid-range" brand like Mercury or Buick, either. Still, pretty damn cool.

>>28508768
>Do you think anyone gave one flying fuck about interior room?

I know they did because I was alive then and my parents generation bought many of them. Those were great family cars and though smog motors are slow stock it was expected anyone who cared would swap car, /intake manifold and camshaft. The 460/C6 in my dentside Ford wrecker came out of a Lincoln which is a common swap as they're respectably tough.

The highway ride was glorious.

>>28508693
Hobby is spensive. If you want a cheap croozer either buy a beater boomer chevelle and restore it yourself with junkyards (and the summit catalog) or buy an absolurely immaculate '73-'83 land yacht and keep up on maintainence like your life depends upon it

>>28508810
>I'm glad someone else appreciates e'm
Yeah. Drove a '77 cordoba and they're noticeably better built than the fords and gms of the same era, both in interior and driveline. The 400 engine felt... agricultural... but I enjoy it that way of course.

>>28508800
>>28508810
chrysler never sold as many as gm or ford, but they punched above their weight when it came to the engineering. bud lindemann's reviews where 60s and 70s muscle cars and boats were absolutely thrashed around a track as he gave commentary really show it all in action.

>>28508671 (OP)
they still exist,but not american ones

>for example BMW M8/bentley continental,rolls royce spectre,etc.

>>28508814
or just get 2005 grand marquis,stop larping and enjoy the crooze worry free

>>28508676
it's trying too hard, and associated with niggers and feds

>>28508746
it is always time for PHANTOM POSTING

>>28508810
I've always heard it that Chrysler as a whole tried to slot itself between the existing price ranges. So if you had Ford, Mercury, Lincoln, Dodge would go between Ford and Merc and Chrysler would go between Mercury and Lincoln. This is probably why Chrysler was perpetually broke.

>>28508746
But Spectre is

>>28508763
is this yours?
I actually just bought an 80s Grand Marquis. it's awesome

>>28508671 (OP)
so get one and fix it up

>>28509022
HELL YES

>>28509149
Based and personal luxury car pilled.

>>28509172
>so get one and fix it up
Fixing up a 35 year old car is an enormous amount of work that I don't want to do.

nobody buyin that shit

What's the european equivalent? I want something for around 10k or less

>>28508681
I've owned both a 76 burb a 78 Mk V. No comparison. The Lincoln was a space ship and the burb was a school bus.

>>28509149
Looks like a modern BMW, but slightly more niggerized with that grille.

>>28509363
>space ship
In retrospect these things are somewhat futuristic, kind of in a 19th century way. Way more futuristic than the current videogame UI soapbars at least

>>28508671 (OP)
Apart from the constant oil crises of the '70s on, the main reason cars went down in size was actually... Garages...
>"Earlier in my Cadillac career, somebody had taken a survey of our owners’ garages, and a lot of them had garages that were attached to older houses. The houses might have been big, but the garages weren’t, because nobody anticipated cars growing to that length. We got to a certain length, and we were told, “Don’t go any further because we’re going to lose customers.”" Wayne Kady

>>28509647
>Of
>From

>>28508671 (OP)
>I wish giant personal luxury cars hadn't died.

So drive an original. They're tough, very simple to wrench, and mechanical parts abound.

Picrel a basically an F100 rebody with larger front wheel bearings.

>>28510265
anon WHERE'S THE PIC!?!?

>>28508814
>'73-'83 land yacht and keep up on maintenance like your life depends upon it

They're easy to daily as they ever were but beginning ownership with a thorough visual inspection is a very good idea. I replace all fluids including differential lube and brake fluid on purchase.

Keep an ignition computer and a pickup in your glovebox because Ford, GM and Chrysler all had issues. (The module pinouts matched for a while so some non-GM owners used HEI modules instead but I just kept stock GM and Ford parts).

Inspect engine bay and underdash wiring. Engine bays are simple to rewire if an area is brittle. Do one and you'll understand others. Do read service manuals and understand how their charging systems work.

I replace both power and ground battery cables and use dielectric grease anti-seize on the hardware.

>>28510281
I don't have any pics of my F100. I really should take some though it's not pretty.. It's a '76 F-100 cab on a 250 chassis for the thicker frame and 8-lugs with C-6 and Lincoln 460, previously a 390.

It has a push bumper common to the era and a Holmes 440 boom with a double-length stick (stock boom is box tubing so when I ordered a stick to replace the bent one I didn't shorten it much). I used it to raise building panels since I don't need to tow with that boom (my Chevy crew cab has an old Century wheellift) and it's handy as fuck around the yard.

It was a bargain when I bought it from a coke head who got shot at while driving it. One bullet got the front and rear windows, one the cab above his head and one centered on where his spine would have been had he not ducked.

>>28510304
no i mean you said
>Picrel a basically an F100 rebody with larger front wheel bearings.
but there's N O P I C

>>28508671 (OP)
>>28508810
news flash for unc, these cars have been, and always will be disgustingly ugly poor performing bottom of the barrel dog shit

Give me one reason why I shouldn't

>>28510702
that's a super racist looking car. no liberal feminist hotties will give you the time of day driving that. i'd pass

>>28508671 (OP)
>giant personal luxury cars
cars today are too small. I miss my 70 Caprice. floated like a cloud

>>28510714
Bro I'm never getting bitches, at least I can look cool being a virgin

>>28510581
I beg to differ. You will never know the fun of being in a '72 Electra or a '76 Newport Custom.

>>28510702
Better have the sunroof or hard pass! Even better if it has the 400 ci v8 engine.

>>28510857
It has the 350 and a (ripped) vinyl top, sadly

>>28511090
If the interior's shot pass on it. Either get a really nice one to drive, or if you're looking for a project, a really ratty one to rebuild (with a parts car or two also for interior/trim)

>>28511409
Interior looks good

The two main reasons I'm hesitating on buying it are that I'm not sure how much of my saved money is going to need to be used to repair the roof on my house, and it also feels unnecessarily spiteful to buy another separate vehicle just because I'm sick of working on my old Crown Victoria
Like I can't just fixate on every single '70s land yacht that pops up on Marketplace, there's no way that's sustainable
And yet, besides the state of the vinyl roof, that Thunderbird looks mint.........

>>28511090
Look at other examples of those tbirds and Lincolns (the even more fancy versions) so you can get a feel of what they can be optioned with (interior wise) and the prices for them.

I prefer the leather or cushy couch seats and that one you posted doesn’t have them. Don’t settle for less!

>>28511746
I don't like old leather cause it cracks :(
My only real requirement is AC and this one seems to have it, probably needs charged though

>>28511740
>Thunderbird looks mint
Paint on the hood is dead judging by the poor quality of the reflection, though that's not unexpected nearly 50 years later. That t-shirt is clearly a buffing cloth from the color of the staining.
>A/C
Interesting how all the a/c vents are turned closed. Probably needs new a/c hoses as those always leaked after a few years due to the material shrinking and causing the clamps to lose tension. Compressor clutches were also problematic so if it looks heat discolored it's probably ruined but those are replaceable separately from the compressor. Try to keep it R12 though. No one will have it so you'll have to go ebay for that.

>>28511809
If you like vintage movies then watch the Junkman (1982). It has a ‘77 and ‘79 Thinderbird(s) in it. And more neat vintage cars.

>>28510702
Because you're going to have to go in there and inspect it and make sure it doesn't have an extra ten grand worth of work the owner wasn't telling you about.

>>28511887
You have a point, many points in fact
>>28512051
Oh, like the crown victoria I bought for $1200 that I've spent at least 5 grand fixing up since I got it in 2023?

>>28512096
So what's this vinyl top damage look like?

>>28512230
Fuck it here's the listing, if one of you people swipe it then at least I don't have to think about it anymore
Right, the system thinks the full link is spam, just look at some random listing on Marketplace and then swap the second half of the URL for this
>marketplace/item/4227518350825611/
I don't think this really counts as doxing myself because it's a few towns from where I am

>>28509382
I'll take niggerized over a bucktooth chipmunk grill any day

>>28512295
Wasn't there a Marketplace and Craigslist thread the other week? How in the world did that work when Marketplace links count as spam

>>28512295
OK, just the usual dry rot then. Wanted to make sure it wasn't the other issue where the rear pillar rusts out just above the quarters. Car seems like it's been covered most of its life. It'll deteriorate quickly if left outside for extended periods. If the paint on top is kept clean, waxed and, most importantly, covered it can go for years more so you'd have some time there. That top otoh has to be fixed soonest. If for no other reason than self-image since you must look at it every time you approach the car. It also affects how you think of the car. Left like it is you'll come to think of it as a some pos that can be treated like a dumpster.

In all, seems an easy refurb candidate for a nice classic on a budget.

>>28512409
>easy refurb candidate
See that's what I thought about the Crown Victoria and then it had a thousand different problems, but maybe this one would be different!
I'm not sure if the guy who did the vinyl delete on the Vic is going to be willing to do another one so soon...

>>28511733
>owner couldn't even bother to take out his dirty shirt from the front seat to take the pictures for the sale
yeah don't buy that

>>28512517
At least it's not full of trash like most of the cars on marketplace around here

>>28512488
>vinyl delete
Don't do that to one of those 'Birds. It never looks right because the car is literally styled for the contrast whereas the '79 LTD was styled for no vinyl and the CV option rather clunkily added it on later.

>>28512596
Is it easy to replace the vinyl on one of these tbirds? Honestly I could just sew a large patch onto the top temporarily, lol, depending on the color of the vinyl I use it would look like a sunroof at long distances

>>28512488
>a thousand different problems
Got to thinking about this, and you realize this one will too. Just the headlight doors being up says that system has been neglected. Did they cap it off or just letting it be a vacuum leak? No telling until it's yours. Of course that's a minor subsystem that's not critical but is emblematic of prior owners and their views towards maintenance and repair. Most approach car repairs as "just make it work (cheaply)" instead of "make it like it never happened". IME it takes months to find and sort out a prior owners bodges and "temporary" repairs (of which there is nothing more permanent). On top of that every seal and gasket on the thing will be leaking to one extent or another because they just weren't meant to last all that long to begin with and it's been many times that long now. I'd be stunned if the radiator didn't need to be recored because all the fins are rotted and it's seeping from one or more spots, and so on. It'll be a project for sure but at least you won't be having to source trim pieces, upholstery, and other hard to get items.

>>28512624
More time consuming than anything else. The worst of it is getting the old stuff off and cleaning for the new glue to be applied. It's a contact cement so both the car and the vinyl have to be coated, you see. You'll probably want two people to lift and lay the vinyl on (don't let it touch itself!) and then spread it out smoothly so no bubbles or wrinkles form. There should be youtubes on doing it.

>>28512628
That really lines up with the Crown Vic situation, the previous owner did a lot of stupid stuff with the air intake and the window motors and just a bunch of other annoying little things that I've had to fix or pay someone else to fix.
Of course, this thing looks like it has been taken better care of, and the owner says it runs? But of course so did the other one, they even drove it to my house.
If I go to look at it I'll definitely have to look at the state of the coolant, transmission fluid, see if it's all just dirty and brown or if they've actually kept up on things.

>>28512658
It looks like it goes down the A pillars too, which really looks like it would be a gigantic pain to get installed...
Maybe my next land barge should be a cadillac, something without a vinyl roof that I'll have to tackle.
I really want a diamond jubilee, but those have vinyl tops too.

coupes are based SUVs are for homosexuals and women

This one supposedly had the vinyl replaced in 2019 and has fully functional air conditioning, and for only 6 grand. Not sure if it's got some sort of super expensive problem that they want to offload onto someone else or if it's just because the interior is an obnoxious bright red, but I like it.
>(zuck)book.com/share/1CEnCxw5Bw/

it's a vibe

>>28513659
'79 is not a preferred year for Ford products due to decontenting. Things like metal escutcheons becoming plastic, lighter upholstery materials, 400 as largest engine, and so on. They claimed this was for fuel economy but they were really on the brink of bankruptcy that year.

It's kind of amusing how similar that TBird and this Lincoln are mechanically. The Lincoln chassis is '65 Galaxie front and rear while the 'Bird is that only on the front with a slightly cheaper suspension design on the rear. The Lincoln will have the Ford 400, and assuming the 'Bird had the 351M, which is a variant of the 400, both will have the C6 automatic. The Lincoln will have the better Saginaw P/S pump, and probably the Saginaw steering box too, along with the far smoother Harrison A6 (from GM) compressor. Likely has a 110-125 amp alternator too.

>>28512889
I have a coupe, and sadly, its a hair dressers car.

>>28508674
I hope the fix the grille; I will say the g90 is one of the few modern cars which in terms of looks seems like it has roots with the old land yachts

>>28508763
But then where do you put the cup holders?

>>28513739
I really like that Lincoln, I think I'm gonna take my crown vic out for a brief spin so I can try and stop thinking so much about cheating on her with an older and bigger car...
And if the fuel pump decides to permenantly crap out during it then well fuck me I guess

>>28513989
send it. it's either one final hurrah for the vic or a test of its resilience

>>28514095
The good news is that I successfully drove around a little bit, the bad news is that I found an entire Mouse house in the airbox and I wouldn't have even noticed it was there if the power steering hadn't been completely dry and I pulled the snorkel off to get to the filler hole
I hate rodents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>28514156
i like rodents when they're not chewing through wiring

>>28516333
So you hate rodents?

>>28517109
I too hate rodents (I am 28514156)

>>28517232
Wrong image, I got into the habit of screenshotting my pictures and cropping to 16:9 because none of them are below 4MB but I guess this one said no

>>28508671 (OP)
I love their look but good fucking god is the wasted space horrendous. It has the same footprint as a modern executive limo.

The whole point of these died when the internet became accessible. All of a sudden you didn’t need to drive from city to city to do business deals, you just sent an email. In Europe the same thing happened. The London to Frankfurt drive for that big finance meeting wasn’t required anymore, because they could do it remotely. If you did need to send a top executive somewhere, you could do it in a full size saloon or SUV and it was better this way because the PA and lawyers could go with him and reduce costs

Concorde made sense in much the same way. You could be in New York City from London in two hours or whatever. Which is great, but when you can just conference call the NYC office there isn’t any point. Business owners can take the LearJet and the execs can take whatever flight, if they do have to fly. This is why the used value of these cars went down the can. Billy Boomer didn’t need one anymore, so they got sold to strip club owners and other scumbags who never maintained the things

>>28517412
>The whole point of these died when the internet became accessible.
The spectacularly huge personal luxury cars died in the late 70s. The Mk VI was over a foot shorter than Lincoln's colossal Mk V.

Based

>>28517109
pet rats and mice are cool though. ridiculously smart.

>>28508676
It's for mothers
This is for motherfuckers

>>28518245

>>28508810

>>28518245
What a fine car

Bump blessed thread

>>28509338
Your best option is to look for gt cars.
Like jaaags, astons, front engined ferraris, maserati granturismo.
Though not sure if many fall under 10k€
Maybe an xjs jag would.
Or the big supersedans. 5th gen quattroporte is decently cheap usually
But these arebsedans
Also im pretty sure you can get old rolls for under 10k€

>>28521596
>Also im pretty sure you can get old rolls for under 10k€
He's going to go bankrupt keeping it running

>>28521623
He never specified running costs

>>28509338
Only the British cars got close in size. Bentley Continental (not the VW version) was massive but only had the wheelbase of the Lincolns - it was still nearly 2 foot shorter. All the German stuff was smaller, even the CL Mercedes was the size of a Cadillac Seville of the time and dwarfed by the American full sizes. BMW 8 Series was roughly the same dimensions as an SN95 Mustang

>>28508810
Wrong. In '66, the Imperial was a finer car than the Cadillac and Lincoln.

>>28508766
>A Suburban (an extremely common soccer mom yuppie mobile
Soccer moms aren't yuppies, and yuppies sure as shit don't buy fucking chevys bmaooo

>>28508766
>it is tow capacity!!!

>>28508785
pickups and suburbans are ugly, mostly slow as fuck, and gay. Mostly

>>28521703
Imagine not having eagles and scolls.

>>28517841
Kek fuckin NERD

>>28521730
ikr, the rats and mice are NERDS kek

>>28521744
>ebonics

>>28508693
im in the same boat with my cars. Its outrageous how expensive labor has become. Getting your car painted can now be upwards of $15000. Everything works mechanically and electrically on my shitboxes but they will remain shitboxes because a paint job would total them.

>>28521752
>scinobe

>>28521776
Damn, I guess I'm glad I know an old guy who managed to get my van repainted for 6k and my car's vinyl top ripped off and painted for 600

>>28522137
thats not bad at all but still $6k for a shade tree paint job? I dont know if I could even go for that since painted i think my shitbox is worth $5k. Most used car buyers dont even seem to give a fuck about aesthetic condition anymore

>>28508671 (OP)
>Get into a corner with cars parked on both sides
>Zero visibility
>Have to quite literally push a 2 meter long front into the possible incoming traffic risking having an accident
>And the most important part about these cars, they only work in the US and canada, in the rest of the world you can't drive them almost anywhere because roads and cities aren't designed for an 8 meter long car that takes the whole width of modern car lanes
I hope they never come back.

>>28522620
>meters
Why do island apes even reply to posts they know aren't about them

>>28522631
Can't be. That's the american spelling.

>>28522596
For me the van is sentimental, so the price was well worth it to have all of the rusty panels cut out, new ones welded in, and the whole thing painted.
Of course he didn't do the fiberglass roof, but it's not like that can rust anyway.