I'm currently shopping for a new car and one of the biggest pains in the ass I find daily are these massive gaping holes in the top of the vehicle. In return for losing in most case inches of headroom, you get the "luxury" of having your scalp cooked by the sun if you choose to actually use one. Hell, they have even changed the branding to "moonroof" just to make it seem more appealing. It seems like dealers are starting to order these more often as a premium feature. Even worse, for some premium add-ons like nicer speakers and better upholstery, you HAVE to get the sunroof. I want to call out Honda in particular here, because on their vehicles like the Accord, you HAVE to get the sunroof unless you get the poverty model. It's disappointing because it would probably be the vehicle I would go with if it wasn't for such an annoying "feature." Don't even forget about the additional proneness to leaks a sunroof adds.
Tell me /o/, do you actually enjoy these? Or do you find them burdensome like me on a vehicle?

>>28516691 (OP)
How are you this much of an absolute fagget?

I'd choose not to have one, but whenever I do have a car with one I enjoy it and use it.

>>28516691 (OP)
A moon roof is when the glass is closed. Sunroof is when it opens.

>scalp cooked by the sun
Why should the world revolve around bald "people"

>>28516691 (OP)
Fun fact: The vast majority of cars are used only twice by an owner. The first is when they test it to see if it works and the second is to prove it works when the car is being sold.

i dont like any of this either. i prefer a plain roof. i like how its "capsuled"

>>28516747
Delusional

I intentionally looked for a sunroof but I use it a lot less than I thought... but i like that it's there. Lets some light into the cabin and fun when driving at night

>>28516691 (OP)
Love the sunroof in my old s12. its 40 years old, never leaks, never has issues. Unless its raining I always had it open to the vent setting.

It sounds like all this is a you problem.

>>28516747
Cars what

I love to sunbathe with lots of wind noise and road smog

>>28516747
this sounds incorrect

>>28516691 (OP)
Sunroof is a cope for not having a full convertible top.

>>28516857
convertibles are mostly gay as fuck. Mostly

I hate them because on most cars they cause leaks over time. Just buy a fucking convertible.

>>28516691 (OP)
Sun/moon roofs are kino in old barges but really just fall flat in anything else
>Sports car? Why not a vert or targa?
>New car? Can't use it, laminar flow gets disrupted into turbulent at the opening point and blows out your ears.
For you I'd recommend just getting and older car; if you hate the roof hatch you'll HATE everything else

>>28516932
Most new ones have those cloths that keep that buffeting out. No real negatives now.

>>28516691 (OP)
Irrelevant because you're only looking at stupid jap shitboxes.
Maybe mention that so people can call you a retard.
>waaaah why do all these stupid jap shitboxes have dumb normie features
It's a normie car. Maybe you'll learn one day.

>>28516691 (OP)
My sunroof is open any time it isn't raining and the temperature is above 40. When it's raining I use the tilt feature to have it open without letting rain in.

>>28517075
Tilt+sliding rear glass is a game changer.

>>28516691 (OP)
I would never buy a car without a sunroof. I like to open every window and the sunroof gives me more windows to open.

>>28516691 (OP)
From what I understand a sunroof is the small window with a hardtop and a moonroof is a much larger window usually with a sliding screen. I still agree, I don't find any use in them and am always wary of leaks since my car had the drainage hose get clogged and unplugged, there's still a water stain on my headliner where it was dripping down.

>>28516691 (OP)
>Tell me /o/, do you actually enjoy these? Or do you find them burdensome like me on a vehicle?
I dunno, never had one. Seems to me like kind of a bad compromise between having a convertible and just having a normal roof.

>>28517093
>>28517075
tilt is great because I don't get the buffeting issue and I get to hear my exhaust

>>28516747
Crack cocaine is a hell of a drug.

>>28516691 (OP)
sunroof was a lifesaver when AC broke in my 30yo camry, dark green is a nighmare in summer and only way to keep the temperature in acceptable norms was a slight opening that vented out hot air for 8 hours on office parking lot

as a bmw chad i don't bother with the sunroof vs moonroof debate, as for me it's obviously a PANORAMIC roof. i enjoy it for the daily but wouldn't want it on any more special car unless the purpose is fully non-sporty. if you cruise in it, it's gotta have some type of opening at the top. now on my E91 i've had it break in the tilted position and then had it fully replaced with a refurbished one for about 700 bucks including a tip and coffee+cake for the guy and his wife who did it. i like to keep it tilted any time i'm going below 140kmh cause it's so nice for fresh air without a draft around the ears and in tunnels i can hear the car without cracking the windows. it also fully retracts (INTO the car roof, not outside of it like those modern perro caca type cars where it sticks out) which is nice for driving at night and in the mountains. and idk why your head would get scorched by the sun, does yours not come with movable light shades? lmao. lol even.

ps. it won't start leaking if you clean and maintain it, imagine denying yourself great pleasure because you're not willing to take a little more responsibility

>>28516691 (OP)
sunroofs/moonroofs are overrated garbage that will cause water leaks into car, if these leaks are not fixed on time then comes the comes risk of mold, premature metal rust from interior to exterior. In fairly modern cars, including old luxury cars(like 20 year old Audi) as one example even electrical issues because there are computer modules at the interior floor under the fabrics, so with water leak to interior will cause these computer modules to get soaked by water.
In some countries with mandatory periodic safety inspections the same rules that have been made for front windshield also apply(excluding washing, wiper) to sunroof/moonroof so if theres cracks, damages from rocks at the sunroof/moonroof then you are required to fix those damages before your car can pass the inspection.

If the car does have properly working AC system, theres no need for sunroofs/moonroofs, cooled seats. Just dont wear black, dark blue/navy, dark green color clothes during hot summer times so you dont get burned up by direct sun light so much.

>>28516691 (OP)
For me, it's the convertible

>>28518401
the bmw chud actually gets it right on this one. there's a sublime pleasure in driving a car with a glass panoramic roof or glass slide/tilt during a rainstorm.
And when it's too hot you simply engage the shade screen and it's still perfect for parking in brutally hot environments by tilting it up to let heat escape.
Movable glass roof w/sunshade is the final boss of true functional elegance in automotive design and if you disagree, you're simply wrong.

>parking lot
>flip on sun shade
>tilt sunroof
>thank myself later

>>28516691 (OP)
I'm mostly with you. The only part is like is being able to do the tilt thing, helps cool the car down faster on a really hot day. I've had a few cars with moonroofs and I don't think I've ever driven around with the glass closed but the shade open, I think I'd be more open to the old-school kind where it's just a metal panel that opens (which also usually takes up less headroom) but nobody does those anymore.

>>28517075
The issue isn't rain for me, it's just the bright sun.

>>28518862
I do shade open glass closed when it's too cold to have it open

>>28516754
>sunroof driving at night
wtf that would be so cool...
I actually have two skylights in my old van but they leak water :((((

>>28516691 (OP)
I use mine all the time its nice to have. At least for my truck its better to have the rear window open at the same time to help with wind buffeting.

>>28520497
>wtf that would be so cool...
It is. Nothing like driving local roads at 9pm, no traffic, sunroof open and windows down.

>>28516691 (OP)
My first car had a real moonroof, an aftermarket glass that would pop up on the rear or would pop out and slide back. and I loved it. It had a manual shade that I could put it, never did. Second car didn't and I missed having one. Truck has a sunroof, it will pop up or will slide back into the body, and I enjoy it quite a bit. I open it every time I go for a drive and it's nice out. It has a built in shade I can slide closed if I want.

>>28516691 (OP)
Sunroof is kino. Makes the cabin feel more open. Natural light feels great. Also, if I DON'T see a sunroof on your car, it's a great indicator I'm dealing with a poorfag. Unless it's a sportscar or something, but as a general rule this is pretty reliable.

>>28516691 (OP)
Based, I bought a base model Forester to avoid a sunroof.

>>28521329
>Nothing like driving local roads at 9pm, no traffic, sunroof open and windows down.
It used to be really cool, then they installed a bunch of LEDs instead of the pressure lamps and that kind of fucked things

>>28521329
nothing like burning local with the sunroof open inthewoods

>>28516709
This

>>28516691 (OP)
Ideally I try to avoid them if possible. They’re something extra to break or leak. My beater 04 Camry has one and maybes it not bad out of like four days a year but it’s closed 99% of the time. My Hellcat doesn’t have one so that’s a plus.

>>28516691 (OP)
It's very hot where I live so id never get a sunroof. But when I lived in Ohio I had a Honda Accord with sunroof and it was comfy

I feel this way about every feature of a car except for the climate control. It's only there to break and/or annoy the shit out of you.

>>28522029
Power steering, brakes, windows, and manual AC
Maybe automatic tranny, but 4 speeds or less
Everything else manual or non-existent

>>28516691 (OP)
I know a VAG product when I see it, anon. I love my sunroof. I use it. I roll down the windows. I fucking love putting the travel assist on and taking pot shots with my paintball gun at my ex's house. She doesn't even know.

My car has a massive sunroof and I don't get the appeal either
It's always closed in summer because the sun boils you alive
It's always closed in winter because you'd freeze to death
it's even closed in spring for the handful of weeks where the weather is just right, because why would I want car noise, dust and shit getting in?
pointless fucking extra

>>28522102
But have you ever tried it and blasted some music when you're doing it? It's fun, anon. Try it.

>>28516737
You should try going outside more often. Scalp burns happen to people with long hairs as well, right along your parting. If you have low density hair it's even easier if you spend long enough time in direct sunlight. Even then spending enough time outside with direct sunlight will damage your hair from the heat, which isn't a problem for short haired people but for long haired it kind of is a big deal. Thats' why so many women have to get chops between heat damage, uv, dying, and otherwise miscare
>>28516702
I'm not reading OP, but sunroofs are retarded. You have to pay more for them. They introduce long term maintenance headaches. In summer they actively cook you alive in warm climates, which leads to you just closing them anyway. The airflow they can provide isn't even that beneficial if you're in slow traffic. For long haired people they will fuck your entire style up if you open them. Just like convertibles it's a cool gimmick a few times and then you realize it actively sucks in a lot of conditions.

>>28522675
nta but I'm too embarrassed of the type of music i listen to to blast it with windows and sunroof open

>>28516691 (OP)
Tried out a sunroof in my last car. Will not get another car with a sunroof. I did not like losing the headroom.

>>28516691 (OP)
I refuse to open my sunroof.
I know if I use I too much, it'll leak.
They Always do.

>>28520423
I'm not a shut-in, so I have a healthy tan and enjoy feeling the sun.