This exceeds a Porsche in every metric apart from outright speed.

wtf I love Kia now

>>28517538 (OP)
I agree

>>28517834
Have you driven both?

>>28517538 (OP)
>every metric
what about the 'will a woman have sex with me because I drive a porsche' metric?

>>28517916
>$50000 worth of prostitutes
>Porsche
I know which one will get your dick wet.
>But...but those are whores!
So are the ones who'd have sex with you for owning a Porsche. You can bang 8/10s in any country of your choosing every other week on a Porsche payment.

>>28517916
what kind of woman would
I'd rather a woman see me as a capable family man willing to haul her brood - not a feckless risk-taker who is antisocial and a showoff.

>>28517903
Yes

its more fun to drive a slow car fast
therefore this kia is more fun to drive than a porsche

>>28517973
The Kia 2.5 (my only experience with a Kia engine other than a brief test drive of an Elantra GT Turbo which seemed smooth and peppy) is fun above 3000 rpm but it makes peak power at 6000 rpm and you do have to floor it to make sudden passing maneuvers and it could use a liddle battery to help or maybe 20-30 extra hp and it's a pretty rough engine
the engine noise is probably the worst part of the car - I assume the 3.5 v6 in the carnival is much smoother and torquier
I drove my Dad's old X1 (4 cyl) and the engine is so much smoother and more powerful (tho it is turbo)
You used to be able to get a turbo in the sportage - no longer except in the hybrids - which lock you out of the x-pro trim and its off road goodies

>>28517538 (OP)
>This exceeds a Porsche in every metric apart from outright speed.
Is self igniting a real metric?
Is being stolen with a usb cord a metric?
Is starting shitty advertising threads a metric?

>>28518051
Kias are very high quality now - they have made mistakes and come out stronger.

>>28517538 (OP)
This is going to be my next car.
They're expensive ($78k AUD for the diesel N-Line), but I think you still get a lot of car for your money.

>>28518203
exquisite taste

>>28517538 (OP)
hyundai should buy nissan, and use their engines and only develop diesels... and have nissan make a 5 cylinder vc motor

>>28518171
>Kias are very high quality now - they have made mistakes and come out stronger.
Again???
This is reported every few years for the past few decades and this manufacturer refuses to get better.

>>28517538 (OP)
The modern day version of a station wagon and all the American retards have fully bought in to the image.
SUV's just scream I wanna be just like everyone else!

>carnival
>literal clown mobile
you cant make this shit up

>>28518506
sir thats a minivan.

>>28518270
the variable compression motors were all recalled recently and have gotten lousy reviews

Or you stop being poor and get a Cadillac Escalade V with a supercharged 6.2L V8

>>28518757
>pushrod engine in 2025
pathetic

>>28517538 (OP)
You couldn't even force me at gunpoint to buy a Kia.

>>28518783
Test drive a nice Kia and then come back here and say that again.

I wish their colors were more bold.

>>28517538 (OP)
>every metric
reliability?

>>28519494
>reliability?
This. Even with the low bar set by Porsche, I've at least seen older Porsches on the road.

>>28519494
>>28519508
yes

people are more willing to blow thousands to keep an older porsche on the road - I think people just sell or abandon Kias if they have big maintenance issues because the people who buy them are lower income - it's not a fault with the car

>>28518270
Nissan is shit, they should go bankrupt. It will be interesting to see what car the black people drive once they no longer sell altimas

>>28519698
Commuter cars are just inherently disposable. Throw it out, the new one will probably be better.

>>28519918
Kias last at least 12 years.

>>28522612
>Bumps after 35 hours to say nothing.
Faggot.
Almost every car lasts more than 12 years, my jap shitbox is 16 and I still see it as new.
Kia has had extreme problems with their DCTs for over 10 years now. It's still only a percentage of cars, but an unusually high number compared to anyone else. Their transmissions fail just after warranty ends or even before and insurance often totals them because it's not worth a replacement when the car is only worth $5k. There have been numerous class action lawsuits against Hyundai and Kia over this.

>>28522616
don't get one with a dct then
I test drove a VW GTI with the dct back when it first got a dct and it was kinda sucky.

>>28522622
>don't get one with a dct then
I wouldn't. I've owned only manuals for 20 years and have no plans to change that.
I also wouldn't buy a Kia. I like the Stinger other than the weight, but most of their stuff is bland and/or FWD.