Is it a meme or are they really as reliable as you say? I need a good daily

yeah

>>28520114 (OP)
Yeah, but it was only true up until the last 10-15 years. There was also that batch in the 2000s about that sludge problem.

As long as "reliable" means regular service intervals and predictable expenses, sure

>>28520114 (OP)
Anything within the last 20 years is going to have problems. Toyotas are known for having early suspension problems, you will likely need to replace the struts or full suspension within 80k miles, my Rav4 struts blew out around 40k. They all have had very serious wiring problems from using cheap wires made of onions that degrade or get eaten by rats, this causes electronics to fail or headlights to become too dim with no solution other than to replace all the wiring. I won't buy any of their hybrids or CVTs ever again, reasons being their CVT in my Corolla was knocking and about to blow up at 60-80k miles. I unloaded the car onto someone else before it detonated but that thing was making some fucked up noises and not performing well, it would make a clunking noise at each start from a red light. Their hybrid warranty is also a sham, if you read the fine print you have to have the battery inspected every 20k miles or the warranty is void. Each inspection costs $200-400 depending on who owns the dealership you take it to. My hybrid battery shit the bed around 60-80k miles, wasn't holding charge or giving me good MPG anymore.

So I guess you can expect to own it for 5-7 years before it goes to shit if you drive the average of 12k miles a year. Both Toyotas I've owned (Rav4 and Corolla hybrid) have shat out hard around 80k. I guess you could say the suspension issue is routine maintenance but they should last way longer, but the transmission, wiring, and battery issues are inexcusable.

>>28520184
Why does onions still wordfilter to onions, that shit is from the moot days

>>28520114 (OP)
Actual meme. No more reliable than any average car that isn’t a complete lemon.

I had a newer (but still v8) Tundra for free, they suck. I can’t believe people pay for them. Especially with the Toyota tax. Of all the major trucks I’ve had, it was hands down the worst in every metric. Toss in the Toyota dealerships probably being the slimiest and worst, I have no clue how they sustain this reputation. Coasting off the past I guess?

>>28520184
What car do you think is reliable then?

>>28520252
There is nothing truly reliable being sold in the US. Expect to have to buy a new appliance every 5 years or so. Car and tech corporations have us by the balls. Everything is designed to break.

>>28520184
>Anything within the last 20 years is going to have problems.
Nice my 98 4runner is safe.

>>28520252

>>28520271
>nooo good used cars literally don't exist!!!

>>28520320
I don't talk like that!!!

>>28520114 (OP)
4chan isn't ready to accept it yet but if you care about reliability then get an EV. I'm not even going to say get a Tesla even though they make far and away the best EVs. But if it's just for commuting? You can't beat an EV

>>28520644
>Tesla make far and away the best EVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ

>>28520193
Toyota dealerships are the reason I decided to learn to wrench. I'm still pretty early in my learning and cant do more than brakes right now, but never again will I be lied to about an expensive repair (transmission) when it was actually a MUCH cheaper issue (wheel bearing). Fuck the stealerships they can all rot in hell.

>>28520114 (OP)
My 2007 4runner sr5 has 250k miles on it and is showing no end in sight. I've changed the spark plugs and the timing belt once, but that's it. Oil change every 8k miles and she runs like a clock.

>>28520311
Turd gens are pretty heavily based but they're still far from perfect.

I've driven my toyota yaris/echo/vitz for a good 40k km already since I got it, seems to do fine.

Only major issue it has is that the cable that connects the airbag to the steering and the seat arrestor is jank, so if I bonk, so my body will too.

Initially 4 or 5 star safety rating, now rated 2 star rating for survivability according to a south australian data survey thing, but the only car it was beaten by from that era was the mazda 3 and a few other shitboxes, but cars like the toyota hilux scored horribly for crash survivability probsbecause of the loading bed not exactly being a crumple zone.

>>28520114 (OP)
>Is it a meme or are they really as reliable as you say?

For the most part yes. As with all makes some engines and transmissions are better than others. That said they aren't as reliable as they used to be; but then nothing is.

>>28520186
Idk desu senpai

>>28520184
>you will likely need to replace the struts or full suspension within 80k miles
So the service interval......

>>28520193
I always here this.
Meanwhile all the Toyotas my family owns chug along without major issues.
the Jeeps, Chevy, and dodge cars are destroying engines and transmissions left and right.

>>28520114 (OP)
Long ago, it was real. Right now, it is just meme.

>>28520152
>As long as "reliable" means regular service intervals and predictable expenses, sure
Like other cars? My friends’ VW and Hyundai are reliable as hell because they stick to regular service intervals. I remember my first car, a Corolla. I fell for the Toyota’s reliability meme, but it died after 9K miles because I never bothered maintaining that piece of shit.

5th gen 4runner was probably the last new reliable "old school car" they ever made that has an ancient V6 and a 5 speed.

>>28523329
I bet you always “hear” that.

There’s more than Stellantis and Chevy, but no they don’t destroy engines left and right unless horribly unmaintained and abused. (Old) Toyota is not any better or worse, just has bunch of retard dick riders and you end up with modern Toyota slop.

>>28523774
You're full of shit anon.
I was a mechanic for a decent bit.
And it's definitely not true to say that Toyota's have the same quality as other manufacturers.
It's not even close.

>>28523383
mmmm, look at all those sensors.

>>28520184
Literally every taxi driver I see around here, drives a Toyota hybrid. Either they're reliable or someone is doing a good job maintaining them. Granted they're mostly arabs, so it's possible they just drive them into the ground before finding a replacement.

>>28520114 (OP)
I really want a prius.
Also my old Saturn SL2 was very reliable to me, but people kept telling they were shit.

on monday I will own a nice toyota (lexus) that has 60k miles. glorious n/a v6 that will last forever.

>>28520114 (OP)
i understand that the modern cars are overhyped, but is a cheap $20-$30k new corolla a bad buy
i'm obviously a wrenchlet but need a new daily drive to just get to work and back, no hauling or offroading or whatever.
are they real pieces of shit that won't last 10 years without paying half the cost in maintenance (for wrenchlets ofc) or will it just werk for a good period of time with likely only minor or rare work to be done to it?

>>28525342
Any car is gonna need at least yearly maintenance (fluids and filters) to last a decade. Plus other eventual stuff like tires and brake pads.

>>28525360
right, i should've been more specific
i was thinking more about major part failures like the suspension or engine components, not just like changing the oil and getting new brakes/tires.

>>28525392
They're as reliable as a car can be nowadays, a lot of them being used as fleet vehicles.

if you're looking for reliable get a mazda that has the 2.5 gasoline/6 speed auto drivetrain. they've been pumping that drivetrain out for over 10 years and it's pretty reliable. had a high mileage mazda 6 for a while that had no issues and a friend of mine that works at enterprise corporate says they've got pretty low overall repair/failure rates per their own internal data.
toyota and honda ain't what they used to be, but if I was choosing between those 2 for reliability it'd be honda, something NA without a CVT. odysseys for example run for fucking ever

>>28520184
>2005 highlander with 250k miles original suspension
>2006 highlander with 200k miles original suspension
did i just happen to get two toyotas with unicorn suspensions?

mine is 6 years old and 46k miles
never had any problem. just change the oil, top off the coolant sometimes. and new tires and brakes. there has never been any failures that needed repairs yet.
they did replace the transmission for free when i first got the car. but i never had any failures. this car has been reliable to me. it does say a message on the dash like take this car to the dealership for repairs. but i heard on reddit its just a little part in the coolant system that doesn't matter.

>>28520114 (OP)
jfc the advice in this thread is horrible.

Buy a Jap car, they are most reliable.
Toyota used to have a large lead, maybe they have a small one now?

Another anon listed EV. Not a bad idea, but needs some research.

>>28520644
All fine and good until the big non-moving part made up of ten thousand other non-moving parts has a problem.
Or, I could buy a car from 1980, and when the 50's era v8 dies at 300k I can rebuild it for pocket change

>>28520114 (OP)
For old? Non-cvt toyota. For new? Mazda.

>>28520644
i would, but i live in a really fuckin cold area and i'm not looking to be a drivelet come winter time

>>28524671
Buy the previous gen of prius, not current one.

Some of their engines are shit, for an example: 1ZZ-FE

>>28526118
4th Gen? Elabore. Everywhere I look online everyone says that Gen 5 is better, except that you lose a bit of cargo space, which is not a big deal for me.

Are they also a meme? It seems like they are slightly less hyped than Toyota irl and online, I find used Honda civics in similar condition as used Corollas for cheaper

>>28525443
Fuck Mazda I had a pos 2.2 diesel. Also talk to anyone with a RX8. I have a RAV4 hybrid with 50k and has been prefect so far. Am tempted by Subaru Outback turbo though