subaru is dead and toyota killed them

their own laziness killed them tbqh

>>28521241 (OP)
>Coupe cuckover

>>28521251
There's a seam for the rear doors. The handle is at the c-pillar.

>>28521256
>another hr-v rebadged as subaru but this time its electric so its extra useless
goody
this will sell well

Do you think Mr. Toyota would piss his pants if they put a 4cyl into something like an HRV and it could make 400 horsepower? Or maybe a V6 to make it a little silly and fun?

>>28521256
Hate that shit

The customers killed it I don't want to be associated with those retards

>>28521261
honestly like 230+ hp would be plenty but you won't get that without it being a useless EV

>>28521259
Just looked into it a little bit and it's just a facelift for the Solterra. Subaru is inherently fucked by their flat4 identity when it comes to fleet emissions, so EV really is their only option to offset it.

>>28521271
The Solterra is trash - nobody is fucking enforcing CAFE at this time.

>>28521241 (OP)
Toyota didn't kill them, Subaru owners did. Toyota just swooped in an picked out the parts from the corpse

>>28521298
Here in CO its like the M3 for either slow driving pussies or hyper agressive faggots.
Maybe I don't notice the normal drivers as much but it seems to always be a Subaru or Toyota fucking up traffic for no explicable reason.

>>28521276
>nobody is fucking enforcing CAFE at this time.
China and Europe are.

>>28521241 (OP)
subajew is a meme car

>>28521298
It is very likely Toyota silently told Subaru to stay the fuck back with the lack of a real STI during GR Corolla's production run

>>28521456
I test drove a Forester XT and a WRX from the early 2000s, the engines were nice the interiors were very basic - Subaru never tried as hard as Mazda to make special interiors - and apparently the infotainment just now starting to be phased out is a piece of crap - every review mentions how shitty it is to the point where I did not bother looking at Subarus when I searched for my recent used car purchase.
They also use legendarily weak and underpowered engines. They should have brought the 1.8T to the US and used that as the based engine. Both the 2.0 and the 2.5 NA are too weak for the heavy cars they serve in. Also you don't get colors or anything special with Subaru they are butch and basic and black.

>>28521473
I will say to the credit of Mazda they dropped a 2.5T Mazda engine in a Corolla hatch body - and it's super rare to see badge engineered cars (Mazda sells a Corolla Cross variant) with actual different engines - even if the 2.5T is kinda outdated and thirsty and the interior is sad.

>>28521479
Toyota seems to be favoring mazda compared to Subaru at least in none AWD matters. New supra is rumored to be a Mazda inline 6

>>28521481
>New supra is rumored to be a Mazda inline 6
that makes a lot of sense
hope they fix the transmission issues plaguing the CX-60/70/90 triplets that every single car magazine has commented on
They should make the Supra a hatch and bigger and more practical
it's just too small only old people can use a veicle you can barely fit stuff in
mazda needs a new 4 cylinder engine badly

>>28521479
I can't find any source that Corolla Cross shares its chassis with a Mazda car, only that Corolla Cross was built in a Toyota-Mazda joint factory

>>28521484
its called a cx-50 in mazdaworld

>>28521241 (OP)
subaru fuel cell
>>28482284

>>28521493
it's not. they're entirely different. corolla cross is toyotas tnga platform and cx-50 is mazdas small platform. they share literally zero parts.

>>28521241 (OP)
Good god it looks so bad from the back. It's like an obese sedan that got lifted

>>28521400
>China and EU is enforcing standards that only applied in the US
You are braindead. EU bases all their regulations off CO2 emissions. Has nothing to do with CAFE.

>>28524195
>It's like an obese sedan that got lifted
It'd be kind of cool if it actually was, like they used to do.

>>28524238
wicked

>>28524195
All EVs look ugly and awkward because they have huge batteries that weigh a ton and can only drive 100 miles. The batteries are placed under the floor, raising the profile by seven or so inches, which makes the car look fat and gives the beltline a weirdly thick appearance. Not to mention, the large battery demands a firmer suspension, so all EVs ride terribly. Just throw them away. That's where they belong.

>>28524195
Looks like the Pontiac aztec

>>28521241 (OP)
>Mustang Mach E with a Subaru badge

>>28521241 (OP)
good
3rd worst Jap brand after Mitsubishi and Nissan

>>28521308
You notice Subarus or Toyotas doing X or Y all the time in Colorado because that's all people drive there. Go to any pick n pull in Denver and behold the rows of junk Outbacks compared to other cars.

>>28521241 (OP)
They died because they were beta testing on their customers even before Tesla came onto the scene. For 20 years, they shipped EJ's that exploded or leaked for no reason and it was obvious from the constant revisions to the engines, even within the same facelifts lmao.

They also put ancient transmissions into turbo models which made them grenade even in stock form. The suspension also had a habit of eating bushings and degrading in such a way to create dangerous geometry changes.

For being Japanese, Subaru really is the most European brand of Japan. They have always offered models that barely make it through warranty.

>>28525826
on the other hand I have two 90s ones with over 230k miles with their original engines and transmissions

>>28525845
Well yeah. This was the time the Justy still existed, they still used abestos gaskets, basically no emissions requirements, and the engines all made like 100 hp. It was right before the beginning of the end.

they just need an EV to comply with California emissions laws and the 5-6 other states that require 20% EV sales or whatever. who cares

>>28525874
Mine have EJ25s, not the EA series pushrod or Justy inline engines

>>28521400
>irrelevant third world shithole does X

>>28521261
No one shops cuckovers based on HP
They dont even typically advertise it

>>28526024
The number is irrelevant. I mean give it slightly too much power and make it fun again.

>>28526115
No one cares about "fun" cars. This is a fictional made up market that only troons obsess over

lmao
you know the plastic black panels are also going to be molded to the painted pieces so you can't actually replace them, defeating the entire purpose of this shit

>>28526200
Have you ever seen how plastic body panels are attached to metal body panels? Do you even know what a car is?