I won't it so bad,,,

That handling test someone posted the other day was really telling - it is very neutral at the limit.
Too bad they can't make something a bit more practical and pigfat that isn't electric.

>>28522574
If it's not roomy enough get a damn Megane RS

>Auto only.
>Open diff only.
If I didn't care so much about powersliding it would be a perfect 10/10.

>>28522584
>get a nissan versa hatchback
lolno
just make an alpine wagon with a 6 cylinder engine - 270hp - no turbo and it would sell

>>28522610
Where the fuck is the engine supposed to go then

>>28522610
You present an interesting business opportunity for Renault. They might actually sell a dozen.

>>28522611
da front
fwd + limited slip rear diff is all u need

>>28522610
>mid-engine 2 seat shooting brake version of a car with already limited appeal
People buying A110s don't buy them as their only car anon, they have a practical car on the side

>>28522633
>FWD
>limited slip rear diff
huh? Also if you just want a Talisman RS you can just say that instead

>>28522642
nta, I assume he meant front engine.

>>28522648
Yeah probably but it's funnier to pretend he didn't

if you love france so much, why don't you move there?

>>28522652
You know, I really can't argue with that logic.

>>28522648
front engine and front wheel drive

>>28522653
I don't like France even a little bit I just want the shit they make there
>>28522666
What fucking purpose does a limited slip rear diff serve then

>>28522670
reduce torque steer, improve handling

>>28522691
>reduce torque steer
You would not be experiencing this in a RWD car

>>28522695
then you would have less room and the whole shabang would cost more
rather have a 6 cyl engine in a cheap-ish practical car and most people realistically agree

>>28522691
If you want to minimize torque steer in a fwd car just ask Honda, they've all but eliminated it on their CTRs. It's in the front suspension geometry, not the rear axle. Also if your rear wheels are connected together such that they resist torque steer they'll also start to resist regular steering aka cause understeer. There's probably a reason nobdoy ever puts rear diffs in fwd cars anon. Also remind me again why exactly you think that this is what the A110 should have been?

>>28522698
It's harder to park a FWD car. There are few positives to a FWD over RWD:

Safer at the limit
Better MPG (very minor improvement with no driveshaft)
Safer in a head on collision at very high speed

All that for sacrificing fun, easier to park because longitudinal vs trannyverse, a comfier driving experience (push vs pull, the latter feeling nauseating to some people), no wheel hop, no torque steer, I could go on

>>28522698
Again, if what you want is a Talisman RS just say that you want a Talisman RS

>>28522701
>a reason nobdoy ever puts rear diffs in fwd cars anon
they are cheap, you find them all the time in ultra-luxury cars
the elantra N has an e-lsd
>Also remind me again why exactly you think that this is what the A110 should have been?
cuz it barely sold any, is being replaced with EVs, and nobody is gonna pay 50k for a tiny impractical car with a 4 cyl

>>28522703
>It's harder to park a FWD car.
360 camera

>>28522709
-Ultra luxury cars aren't front wheel drive you cretin.
-The Elantra N has an electronically controlled LSD in the FRONT.
-It barely sold because it's a lightweight sports car with limited appeal, -I don't think anyone was expecting it to shift a million units. By your logic should Porsche discontinue the small impractical 75k 4 cylinder Cayman because they sell less of those than they do Macans?

>>28522610
>here's your A110 bro

>>28522709
>It's harder to park a FWD car.
>360 camera
You physically cannot turn the tires as much on a trannyverse engined car

>>28522728
It's not the engine config btw, it's the CV joints. Even an AWD longitudinal mid engine car has the same issue.

>>28522722
>-Ultra luxury cars aren't front wheel drive you cretin.
audi says hi

>>28522740
>Volkswagen but with leather
>ultra luxury

>>28522754
A8 is pretty fancy and has no VW equivalent

>>28522757

>>28522801
the problem with the Phaeton was that it was based on a STEEL chassis so was absurdly heavy compared to the a8 - and thus slow and thirsty and didn't sell

>>28522757
an A8 is awd you mong

>>28523372
it's front wheel drive based awd I think

>>28523373
So? FWD based AWD is still AWD. And the A8 is the only high end luxury car Audi sells.

>>28523373
the A3 is fwd based

>>28523373
It's real full time AWD.