I know some of you fags out there have one, redpill me on them. Good? Bad? Great? I trust the /o/pinions more than normalfaggots, so give it to me straight.

>>28525003 (OP)
>mcdonalds on all 4
>pointless manual option
>plastic engine
>egg shape
dont forget ford makes their cars unmaintainable so theres that too.

>>28525003 (OP)
>so give it to me straight
You should just get a Mustang GT.

They were brilliant when they came out nearly 15 years ago but 250hp doesn't go as far anymore. Still a fine car. One of the best turbo 4 cylinders you can get.

>>28525003 (OP)
It's a pretty fun little hatch, a lot less numb feeling than a VW. It's not the fastest thing in the world, but if you just take it out on the back roads and enjoy it for what it is, you'll have a great time.

Love mine. It’s the turbo CRX Honda never made. With a few simple mods they’re horrifyingly fast too.

>>28525019
>but 250hp
I forget a bit of my Fordology. So this is the ST which had a reworked version of the 2.5L Volvo used in the S60 (I had the light pressure turbo version in my S60 AWD) it was a nice enough engine I guess. This would have had the high pressure turbo. And then the RS had the 2.3T tuned to 340 hp or something?

>>28525005
t. hertz rental desk

>>28525028
>hertz rental desk
But you're shilling some chinkshit Volvo/Ford abomination cuckbox lel

>>28525052
No, the car's electrical failed and it was given back to the dealer as a lemon, I'm just relating my positive experience about that particular engine.

>>28525055
>the car's electrical failed
Whole thing failed huh, pity.

>>28525025
>>28525025
>With a few simple mods they’re horrifyingly fast too.
Go on...

>>28525028
>t. hertz rental desk
I didn't say an ecoboost, dumbass.

>>28525003 (OP)
open diff, tiny turbo, and kills engines as quick/easily as their mazdaspeed sibling after 100k miles

>>28525003 (OP)
It's fun as a daily beater to get to work and back, surprisingly quick but the factory setup is trash. If you buy one get the radium engineering catch can and pcv baffle plate then work on getting the funds for an aftermarket intercooler (a good one not the cheapo ebay trash).

The torque steer under hard acceleration is real so get the upgraded rear motor mount.

Beyond that get the gofastbits upgraded diverter valve and get it tuned (not a cobb off the shelf as they have reliability issues). You'll have close to 300hp to the wheels for around 3k plus initial car cost.

If you are looking for a hot hatch project car save your cash and get a 90's civic hatch you can slap the crv awd system into.

just get a damn golf if you want an fwd egg

>>28525067
I’ve had really good luck with mine. Previous owner put on a bunch of Gucci aftermarket parts. Larger turbo, intercooler, blow off valve, Cobb tune etc etc etc. Mine is a salvage title so I got a good deal on it, you’ll find a lot of the examples are salvage title. If you’re into fwd 4 bangers with big turbos, you really can’t beat it. The aftermarket is still very extensive, and for what it’s worth, it’s something you can work on in your garage.

>>28525067
I’ve had really good luck with mine. Previous owner put on a bunch of Gucci aftermarket parts. Larger turbo, intercooler, blow off valve, Cobb tune etc etc etc. Mine is a salvage title so I got a good deal on it, you’ll find a lot of the examples are salvage title. If you’re into fwd 4 bangers with big turbos, you really can’t beat it. The aftermarket is still very extensive, and for what it’s worth, it’s something you can work on in your garage

>>28525100
Can you come back to dbt and perform a tranny purge? We need you back.

>>28525100
>>28525091
Ok this is what I was hoping to find out.
>>28525090
>and kills engines as quick/easily as their mazdaspeed sibling after 100k miles
What should I look for? Found a 2014 ST3 with 65k on the clock that I might go see later in the week. It's lowered, got a Cobb intake and a Magnaflow catback as the only mods. Guy is asking $14k. I'm hoping to use this shitbox for at least 50k miles.

>>28525003 (OP)
I worked part time at a ford dealership and did errands in the ST, with a manual, back to back wtih a mustang GT (2011 or 12) with an auto, and the ST felt faster no joke.

some simple mod like removing plastic under the hood increases turbo noises 500%

>>28525409
buy a 16 or up model. Everything before that had transmission or electrical issues. When you go to test drive start the engine let it idle and put it into 4th gear then dump the clutch, if the engine doesn't stall and jerk to a stop immediately the clutch is fried. Check for goo under the motor mounts, they come fluid filled stock and when they are shot the fluid leaks out underneath them. Try and avoid any of them that have been screwed with by fuckboys, ir avoid highly modified ones since most people go for the cheapo cobb tunes and those have been known to cause damage over time to some engines. Beyond that upgrade all the stuff I listed in >>28525091 and add on exhaust + charge piping. If you wanna go full balls to the wall get a meth injection kit and the aluminum intake manifold from mountune and remove the old manifold then clean your valves/intake ports then the meth injection will keep them clean from then on. Otherwise be prepared to clean them with plastic picks and chemicals every 70k or so.

someone in my neighborhood has one parked outside that hasn't ever moved as far as I can tell. I wonder what's wrong with it and if they'd take about tree fiddy

>>28525409
$14k is a lot of money. A little more and you can get into a Mk7 GTi that's honestly a better car especially if you get a 2017+. The worst those get are leaky water pumps and sunroofs (get a hardtop).

I don't think they have transmission or electrical issues, maybe bad clutch slaves and sync being a pita, but I definitely feel like they can be a little unpredictable with the motors blowing up. They'll usually get low compression. Timing chains are a issue with them at higher miles but not nearly as bad as the Mazdaspeed cousins

>>28525025
>fag-wheel drive
Kek those things are ugly SLOW and gay no matter what you do to 'em

ST is a great hatch. Nobody has really run into any issues with them. /o/tists turn their noses up to this because it's a Ford. They're perfectly capable of taking a tune and pushing 350whp before any other mods. Also the easiest of manuals to learn in if you still need to.

>>28525019
>250hp doesn't go as far anymore
What the fuck is wrong with people nowadays.

toyota hatch might be slower but its more reliable

>>28525003 (OP)
They're Ugly, Slow, Gay, pikachu MONSTER TRUCK bullshits

>>28525617
>They're perfectly capable of taking a tune and pushing 350whp before any other mods.

they're pushing hot air with just a tune because it's running a baby dick ko3 (same turbo as a 150hp mk4 1.8t vw btw), they go from 220 -> 240whp and not much higher after

>>28525619
Blame electricity. In 2013 a Rav4 had 176hp. Now it has 302. Having "only" 252 puts you below normal commuter traffic.

>>28525722
That's fucking madness. Insanity. Giving commuter cucks so much power is a terrible mistake. Like giving scooters and mopeds racing engines, but I guess (((profit))) trumps public safety.

>>>28525619
>Having "only" 252 puts you below normal commuter traffic.

i have to repost this again sigh

>>28525740
"most people" aren't driving a nissan rogue or a kia sportage xpro...

>>28525004
After replacing 14 bushings on a Subaru with multilink rear suspension, I am absolutely fine with mcdonalds on all corners.

>>28525315
No sorry

>>28525409
Mine has been a good example so far, and all the red flags were there. Salvage title flood car with a carfax 3 pages long. Still, it’s been flawless. I’ve had 2 corvettes, Miata’s, jeeps, old trucks, tons of motorcycles and as far as 4 wheeled vehicles go there is the most fun. With the blow off valve, exhaust system, and the delete of that faux exhaust noise thing, it makes all the right noises, wheel hop and torque steer out the ass, and you can enjoy it without doing triple digits. Though I have had mine up to 160mph and it was kind of terrifying, so it’ll scoot when you want it too.

I cannot speak on a stock example but i imagine they’re fun little shitboxes. I would also suggest staying away from the recaro seats as I found them really uncomfortable. Good luck

>>28525979
>I would also suggest staying away from the recaro seats as I found them really uncomfortable. Good luck
Side bolster wise? The entirety of the seat's foam cushioning? If I remember right, aren't you North of 6'2"? Wouldn't that be a hindrance for a smaller seat size?

>>28525052
kek. goteeeemmm

They are fun, the 6 speed manual is really good, and they handle very well actually. Ignore poorfags on /o/ that drive 98 camrys and watch car reviews on youtube all day.

the 1.6 ecoboost is track/wrc proven lasts a long time with few issues.

its shit
this is a real hatch

>>28526076
Everything you said does not apply to the focus it only applies to the fiesta. And the problem with the fiestas is that they are really poorly built with bad rust issues wherever it snows, a difficult to perform timing belt and water pump job that most of them are due at, and finicky clutch hydraulics.

The fiesta is a lot better than the focus though

>>28525003 (OP)
They are pretty fun.
Decently reliable.
Cheap to repair.
Reasonably fast.
You could do worse.
.t raced a few on track at Ford's racing school.

>>28526117
RIP Big Iz

>hatchback
I prefer sedans

>>28526032
The bolsters are pretty extreme. Even more so in the fiesta ST with the Recaros. I know the ST’s came in 3 trim levels, and I don’t remember the nomenclature for them but I have the lowest trim, which has regular focus seats that are 2 tone with the ST logo. The Recaros are probably great if you’re conefagging but for day to day stuff I think they’re going to get old fast, even if you’re like 120 pounds. Find an example with the lower trim and another with the recaros and see for yourself. At some point I’d like to upgrade to some black leather focus platinum seats for maximum comfy.

>>28525003 (OP)
literally the only car to not finish a top gear challenge (grand tour technically) in history.
it literally tore itself in half like a heap of shit. but you don't care, you're just hearing what you want to hear.

>>28526603
The USA spec ST or RS is very different than the Euro spec.

>>28526603
>1 car's problems is indicative of an entire production run's problems

>>28526617
Top Gear is literally scripted. If it failed on their episode it’s because they planned for it

>>28526603
Good point. OP should get the Ford Fiesta instead.

>>28525747
If you drive a rogue or a sportage you're not a person desu
No soul installed, incapable of dreaming, unable to picture a rotating apple in your mind

I like mine.
It's fun to drive even without going excessively over the speed limit, reasonably economical, comfortable and practical.
Reliability-wise, I've had one stuck brake and a snapped washer-fluid tank lid in the last three years.
250HP upfront means you do need good tires, but if you have those it does handle quite nicely (assuming you don't consider drifting necessary for that of course)
Others may be faster but this one is a fun daily.
Takes about 8l of RON95E10 per 100km.

>>28526589
>Even more so in the fiesta ST with the Recaros.
They eventually break in and conform to you. I'm fat and had a FiST with the Recaros for 8+ years and never had an issue with them, actually some of the most comfortable seats I've ever had once they'd been used for a couple of years.