When will Subaru stop being a pussy and give us an STI?

>>28525008 (OP)
Your mom gave me an STI (her name is Subaru)

>>28525009
Did she bounce on it like picrel?

i love subaru but the reliability during my era was horrid the engine, the suspension, the transmission everything scary asf

plop a flat-6 into the forester and sell it as Forester STI if they actually wanna sell a bunch
also, their infotainment is terrible and needs to be totally stripped out of the lineup before it is commercially viable - no matter the engine

>>28525008 (OP)
I just want them to sell the Levorg/WRX Sportswagon here, especially since the VB WRX sedan looks like absolute shit while the wagon is actually alright

>>28525008 (OP)
There's no point, if they put that sti badge on it all of the sudden they have thousands of warranty clutches to do from retards doing redline clutch dumps and not knowing how to shift.

>>28525008 (OP)
A sexually transmitted infection? Why do you want that? Are you a bug chaser?

>>28525030
Which, pray tell? Because they haven't made one in a decade.

>>28525084
well my theory is car manufacturers, noting the success of the porsche 718 4.0 should start building smol 6 cylinder engines to plop them into affordable performance cars - naturally aspirated - maybe with their hybrid battery which seems to barely contribute to performance (which is WEIRD cuz that's the only brand where that happens)
so like a new 2.5 flat 6 or V6 and populate it throughout the lineup

>>28525086
>4L six cylinder
>smol
Amerifat moment

Can't. UK/US/EU emissions and mileage standards killed it. Subaru doesn't have the size or resources to whip up a new car and engine just to sell a couple thousand of them. Because of all the work involved it would be too expensive compared to competitors. It would also take resources from the cars people actually buy, making them even shittier.
Subaru also hasn't had a rally team in years and the STi was originally a rally homologation special.
Shit's dead.

>>28525086
Subaru struggles with emissions already, and have publicly stated that they're hamstrung by the boxer layout from making small cars with competitive volumetric efficiency. Couple that with an already high ratio of enthusiast sales, and they're struggling as it is.
To say that they should take a leaf out of Porsche's book, when they themselves need to sell 3 EVs for every 4litre that goes out the door, makes that completely nonviable.

>>28525115
if they don't make new/better engines they will find themselves out of business in 20 years time

>>28525115
>hamstrung by the boxer layout
Care to elaborate? Am curious.

>>28525199
not him but almost all modern econobox 4cyl engines are undersquare
I assume this is for some efficiency reason (i.e. low rpm torque is better for mpg)
it's harder to make a boxer engine with really long stroke
boxers also have more friction loss from the valvetrain since there's two heads

>>28525095
This. UK, EU dont have 15-30% ethanol blended gasoline as standard fuel like some states in the America does have. They only have E5, E10 gasolines. E85 is rare fuel in EU and flex fuel cars are not offered as brand new anymore. Thats why their modern cars must have an exhaust particle filter in both diesel and gasoline cars as stock feature. Exhaust particle filter causes reduced engine power per displacement. This is why WRX produces 271hp instead of 300hp.

>>28525008 (OP)
stis are pussy as fuck pikachu MONSTER TRUCK bullshits THOUGH

Subaru doesn't have the customer association with rally anymore, so it's not really a priority. They're a lifestyle brand now for people who want other people to think they go camping. They might regain some of the association if they re-enter WRC with the help of Toyota. In that case, any STi going forward will also likely be some form of Toyobaru.
>>28525046
one can dream. I'm convinced the higher-ups consider any potential american buyer for this to be an outback owner who's just temporarily confused

We just need to build our own STIs anons

>>28525008 (OP)
The nb is already capable of 1000hp. Crying about a badge is feminine coded ngl.

>>28525024
The only issue I've had is with the A/C condensor. Fucking thing cracked twice.

>>28525046
>2nd gen levorg not available in Europe
>1st gen only available with 1.6 engine (I will still mod it until it breaks)

Why do they do this? They developed a product that's filling a niche not already occupied by other manufacturers - mid sized awd wagon with good driving characteristics that you can buy without paying for muh premium brand/model bullshit but they refuse to sell it.
Is market so fucked up by cuckovers?

When i was a kid i thought Subarus were the most bad ass cars. Now everyone makes fun of them :(

STI is never coming back. The money involved isn't worth it to Subaru. They are much more content to sell millions of Crosstreks and Outbacks to normies.

But just to make it sting a little extra, when they put out a electric "sports car" in the future they'll slap a TS badge on it along with some red piping for the seats.

>>28527888
Funny they had the money to give every single car they made a manual turbo sporty trim (including their hatchbacks/wagons) when they sold less than 300,000 cars a year but now that they sell over double that they can't make anything but boring NPC dogshit and have completely abandoned their audience of "people who want a fun manual daily driver that can hold all their shit too". Where the fuck am I supposed to go? Literally nobody makes anything that fills that niche anymore, even Subaru when that used to be their bread and butter. Even more infuriating is that they have all the ingredients (Levorg, WRX 2.4 turbo, and 6 speed) but won't combine them into the combination everyone has been asking for since the 2015 WRX went sedan only, and may I remind you the WRX hatch was 50% of sales, it wasn't a poor seller. Even if you compromise a little and ask for a Subaru with a cargo area and a manual transmission, but are ok with it being slow, they still don't even sell that anymore.

If they did bring it back, it would cost $50,000 and nobody would buy it.

Daddy Toyota wouldn't let them cut into their faggy 3cyl hatchback sales anyways

>>28527914
they would if it had an all new 2.5L engine that was decently efficient and smooth and made ~ 340 hp with mild hybrid tech.
and had a new infotainment - not super uncomfy seats, not too stiff a suspension , like maintstream it a little - also it should only be a wagon

>>28527883
>Now everyone makes fun of them :(
alphabet gang latched onto them

>>28525008 (OP)

nobody could afford one these days anyways, with what you would put on the feature list.

>>28527914
A TS is already $50,000 after delivery fee and closer to 55k after taxes and dealer fees. A new STi would be at least 60k.

The TS might be a worthy stand-in it if it came with the SI drive system from the STi but kept the regular engine but they can't even give you ONE of the triple diffs it had. Even with inflation they're charging STi money for just a regular WRX with some suspension upgrades. If the STi came back it wouldn't have its EJ soul. I'm still mad the US never got the EJ207

they're not going to. the one right now makes ~271 hp. They probably find that acceptable for not releasing a performance model.

>>28529398
Why are japs diametrically opposed to making fast, or even just good looking cars?

>>28529393
Will we ever get to the point where the masses refuse to pay for this shit and the industry unfucks itself? I don't get how car prices keep going skyward and the market hasn't collapsed yet.

>>28529407
idk. focus on reliability? you want high horsepower? you buy lexus RC-F or GTR Nismo, that's it baka gaijin.>>28529421
A base WRX in 2015 was $27090. 10 years of inflation at 3.5% gives you $38213. An Sti of that year was $35290. Adjusted again...it's $49780 in today's money. It's right in line where it should be...

>>28529421
Its absurd because my 2019 WRX Base was 26k and my 2020 Premium was 28k when I bought them new. They're pushing the Imprezza RS as the replacement while the WRX goes upmarket. An RS is 29k.

In 5 years the entry-level WRX went from 28k to nearly 38k. The WRX was basically inflation-proof from its US debut in 2002 starting at 24k until 2021 at 28k.

>>28529435
Inflation doesn't always affect cars the same, see above. From 2015 to 2021 the base model went from $26,295 to $28,420. Even with the higher rate from 2021 to 2025 it should be closer to $35,000 then $37,750.
>But they cut the base model
That just means that the Premium is the new Base
A 2021 STi started at $38,170 which would be $47,000 today, the price of the TS that lacks all the of the unique features that the STi had. Not to mention that starting in 2019 all STis got the upgraded version of the EJ that was previously only found in the RA for barely any increase in price.

Other manufacturers found ways to either beat inflation or match it but Subaru either can't figure that out or were just hit particularly hard.
Here is my old 2020 WRX I was hoping to trade in for a VB STi but ended up getting a Camaro instead.

>>28529435
rcfs are ugly as fuck though and rcs in general are mom cars
I had a gs350 fsport, and even the E39 is better.
The E39 > any goyota, by the way
And LOL @ the v6let gtr; those things are pikachu as FUCK bmaooo0o0o0