what is the excuse for the price on Supercars and Hypercars?
There are cars more expensive than this 384 metric tonne machine made of solid steel with a 1800hp/9800NM of torque engine.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Nx9TZXW8Rl8
There is no defense for rich boy toys and their price.
There is no way that more time, effort, machining and technology goes into any hypercar than goes into this piece of actually useful equipment.
Am i wrong?
How could 2 Bugatti Veyrons = this machine in cost?
They don't is the simple answer.
the bugatti Veyron is simple price gouging and so is every other car in its class.
Am i poor? yes.
Am i right? yes.

>>28527157 (OP)
The research and development (R&D) cost for the Bugatti Veyron is estimated to be around $1.62 billion.

And they produced less than 500 cars for this , not milions like vw golf.

>>28527170
They spent 1.62 billion dollars to design an engine that looks it was made by a retarded child twisting flexible straws and bits of lego into play-doh.

>>28527170
Sounds as retarded as the people who would pay as much as it costs to run a mine for a year.
Mine site i work on has an annual budget of 3 million lol

>>28527170
That would be a money laundering operation

>>28527192
so hypercars are like
>Fine art
A money laundering operation?
This actually makes sense.
I wonder who could be behind it?

In the mine equipment market
>scale or mass produced
>very high competition
>high markup in after sale service
>already developed product

i bet it doesn't even have a leather interior

>>28527157 (OP)
most heavy equipment is sold at a loss because the manufacturer expects to make his money on replacement parts and servicing

>>28527314
>>scale or mass produced
lol, how many of those things do you think they sell a year? You think they got a showroom full of them just waiting for a customer? You think the production of such machinery is in any way automated?

>>28527170
>The research and development (R&D) cost for the Bugatti Veyron is estimated to be around $1.62 billion.
I hear shit like this all the time when someone bitches about a product's cost. "Oy vey, it was 6 billion shekels to develop" but like how? What the fuck did that money physically go towards? There's no way it was all spent on necessary steps in designing something.

>>28527541
Paying engineers, fabricators, test drivers, etc, all the materials and failed prototypes, buying/building/renting testing spaces like wind tunnels, contracting out things they could not personally develop like tires that would survive 260mph, etc, it adds up.

>>28527541
https://driver61.com/formula-one/f1-gearbox/

Why F1 Gearboxes Are So Expensive ?

With a price tag exceeding $6 million annually, F1 gearboxes represent an enormous investment for teams. This cost reflects the relentless pursuit of performance, as well as the precision engineering and materials required to handle the extreme demands of modern Formula 1.

Each component is meticulously designed, tested, and manufactured to withstand incredible forces while maintaining a minimal weight. The result is a masterpiece of engineering that exemplifies the sport’s mantra: performance above all else.

>>28527157 (OP)
imagine the drift

>>28527197
>money laundering
nah it's just old money rich baiting new money rich into buying modern slop

>>28527541
it's not easy to make a car that does 300 mph easy to drive at 30 mph

>>28527157 (OP)
Because the manufacturers of these make the big money on parts and service. It works the same way with locomotives.

>>28527828
>>28527441
And the local stealership doesnt? Supercars with a 2k usd oil change is not making money off the service but simply a break even of material, labor and shop costs?

>>28527174
Presumably these are words from a man who thinks there was nothing wrong with reverse flow heads.

>>28527943
You're not overhauling the engine every nine years on those. You're not paying $15,000 for a new high pressure fuel pump every 2 years. Heavy machinery like locomotives and mining equipment make crazy money off the parts and service because it needs to be done and the fleet sizes are big enough and the vehicles are worked hard enough. Making 150 super cars that are babied won't bring in the same cash flow.

>>28527157 (OP)
overpaying for things to show that you arent poor is the entire point OP, its not a rip off if you have so much money that it doesn't even matter

>>28527541
Paying a full development team for a few years is eye-wateringly expensive.
Specialty software commonly costs $$$$ per month and license.
A seemingly simple component testbench quickly costs six digits to build and five digits for spares a year.
Prototype parts have to be made close to final spec and boy can that be expensive when you have to scrap the tools made for that.
It adds up quickly, that's why we can't have cheap lower-volume cars anymore.

>>28527461
dozens, per version / wight class
they make them for decades though
new generations come out maybe every 20 years or so
some parts are interchangable between versions, some (e.g. the engines and generators) are simply off-the-shelve components that are made in great numbers elsewhere
For the model in the OP, for example, two engine options are available, Cummins or MTU. Both of these engines have been in production for a long time and are used in all sorts of mining vehicles, generators, ships or locomotives all around the world.
The basic truck, without the engines, is huge but honestly not overly complicated.

>>28527943
>And the local stealership doesnt?
are you implying dealerships sell cars at a loss and recuperate reveue later?
are you genuinely retarded?

>>28527461
significantly more than a super car with mostly common parts and off the shelf engines

>>28527157 (OP)
bruh those ain't even street legal

>>28527157 (OP)
Post the top speed and get back to me.

>>28527579
>electronically-controlled dogbox
>CNC gears on CNC shafts with CNC forks in a CNC case
>ermagherd $6 milly!!!
I could design an 80%-replica of a F1 gearbox in an afternoon. Send it to chinks, get the parts for less than $50k. Nothing specialized in there.

>>28527157 (OP)
Because it isn't about the vehicle itself. Rich people love to just brag about how much they spend for the sake of spending. A dump truck is impractical but a 4million dollar car will impress your neighbors.

>>28533696
>A dump truck is impractical
Look at the cargo capacity! You could build a fucking house in that bed. Screams practical. Your brooder wife could carry so many kids in that thing.

>>28533689
All you're going to get is a heavy ass piece of junk with humongous slop

>>28528682
they do

>>28533701
Yeah but your neighbors will scream "muh property value" and the HOA takes your truck and your house.

>>28533725
they can try to take my truck from under its wheels

>>28533689
if you've got all the secrets what are you doing here?

>>28527314
>mass produced
200 ton dumps the entire world probably makes less than ten of a year.

>>28533689
>I could design an 80%-replica of a F1 gearbox in an afternoon. Send it to chinks, get the parts for less than $50k. Nothing specialized in there.

And you will make the worst car of the entire F1 season.

Even Toyota couldn't succeed in F1 despite its huge budget and Japanese engineers, and you think you'd be better than them?

>>28527554
that would not add up to even a fraction of the purported cost.

>>28536070
Yes it would.
They produce fewer than 100 (about 75) cars per year and need to recoup costs and make a profit just off of those few cars.