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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:43:34 PM No.28532846
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There isn't any real reason to have most
automobile engines run on gasoline instead of diesel, besides US regulators and consumers being utter dipshits right?
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:58:18 PM No.28532872
>>28532846 (OP)
Diesel smells bad and now that you can't have two stroke diesels like the old Detroits you can't get any revs out of them either.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:04:51 PM No.28532884
>>28532872
Eh? The entire *V71 family was governed to 2100 rpm.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:28:57 PM No.28532928
>>28532846 (OP)
Diesel is primarily consumed by cargo trucks, locomotives, generators, and ships.
There's no benefit to forcing everyone into one tiny corner of the market with strong competition, while not using a gas refining byproduct that's just going to be wasted otherwise
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:35:11 PM No.28532940
Not being a bunch of faggy malaised deluded europeans.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:49:35 PM No.28532965
Diesel sucks. Maybe if there were no emissions but egr def dpf wtf etc fucking ruins engines. Plus no one wants to be bothered with shit freezing.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:07:02 PM No.28532986
>>28532940
I'm an europoor and everyone around here says to me
>why don't you just buy a diesel? it's much more economical than gasoline!
No thanks, I'll stick to my gas cars. I like being able to rev higher than 4000 rpm and I prefer my car not sounding like a tractor.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:10:25 PM No.28532988
>>28532846 (OP)
Diesel is more expensive in the US than gasoline, unless you're some retard that bought a car that only takes 91/93.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:11:11 PM No.28532989
>>28532965
That's the sad thing about diesels: Even a fairly simple one can be quite efficient and run on all kinds of crap fuel. It's definitely not going to run clean like that, though.
The soot, nitrogen oxide and whatever might not be a huge problem in a ship, truck or locomotive running in the middle of nowhere 95% of the time, but nobody sane wants that shit inside a crowded city.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:39:48 PM No.28533012
Diesel engines by design must be built much stronger than gasoline engines, so they're much heavier, have more expensive components, and have a super specialized repair mechanic when shit does break.

Theres no benefit to diesel other than torque for hauling stuff which Americans do appropriately put into heavy duty trucks. It'd be moronic to put it in a compact car or CUV.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:51:14 PM No.28533031
Amerimutts weren't pioneers in high pressure diesel injection, it was all ze Germans. Once the Germans rolled their shit out in the mid 00s, performance/economy levels were insane. Effectively, with a six cylinder turbo diesel, you get the same performance for half the fuel consumption of a N/A V8 Petrol. The torque delivery was much more suited for SUVs and goods hauling vehicles as well.

Amerimutts being Amerimutts, hated that they had been outengineered so they play up the environmental impact of diesel and force absolutely retarded emission laws. DPFs, EGRs, Adblue, etc etc etc. Effectively destroying the efficiency of diesel with maintenance items.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 11:02:30 PM No.28533047
>>28532988
It compensates by the fact diesel engines make actual torque and efficiency and saves $$$
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 11:06:17 PM No.28533049
>>28533047
I mean torque, sure if you actually need it (which the vast majority of people do not). Even if you do there's still plenty of diesel truck options for people whose jobs need it.
>saves $$$
Yeah no it doesn't lol. Unless you need the towing capabilities of a diesel there's absolutely no reason to buy one to "save $$$" when there are countless better options with far superior MPG that use cheaper gasoline.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 11:16:49 PM No.28533063
>>28533031
>Environmental impact of diesel and force absolutely retarded emission laws. DPFs, EGRs, Adblue, etc etc etc. Effectively destroying the efficiency of diesel with maintenance items.
nice try europoopie, but those same things are also mandatory in majority of europoopie diesel cars since 2016.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 11:21:37 PM No.28533070
>>28533031
In locomotives, nobody except the US and Canada uses HPCR. All the international buyers use unit pumps for some reason.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:15:35 AM No.28533129
>>28532846 (OP)
>burns too slow to utilise RPM
>has to make power through Torque instead
>driveline always ends up being heavier than an equivalent powered gasoline as a result

Into the trash it goes
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:10:44 AM No.28533187
>>28532872
>you can't get any revs out of them either
From the factory... Drag and tractor pulling guys are spinning theirs to over 6k RPM.

>>28533047
Do you know what else makes "actual torque"? Large displacement engines which were free to own unlike you.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:24:21 AM No.28533211
>>28533031
>so they play up the environmental impact of diesel
Oh fuck off zoomie.
In the late 90s and early 2000s when everyone switched to diesel without any exhaust aftertreatment all buildings in european cities became grey from all the soot load. It was insane.

The reality is europoops got swindled by the oil&gas industry lobbyist and switched to diesel just so they could generate extra profits for themselves by peddling their industrial waste as car fuel.
Re-aligning on NOx emissions was a correct choice made 20 years too late and the fact that it was disastrious for automobile diesel sales just proved that it's not a good engine design for anything.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:38:38 AM No.28533238
>>28533187
>Drag and tractor pulling guys are spinning theirs to over 6k RPM.
Yeah, and there's no longevity in those engines.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:48:25 AM No.28533251
>>28533047
it doesn't save money when it uses more expensive fuel to make equal or lesser power in a heavier vehicle
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:50:38 AM No.28533255
>>28533063
No see like, Americans invented the idea of pollution because the supreme smart European invented something they don't want so because of that Europeans implemented laws to combat something that doesn't exist so that they can appeal to Americans who still don't want the thing
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:52:21 AM No.28533256
>>28533187
Those sort of engines are redlined so hard they're expecting to last only a few races.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:55:44 AM No.28533261
>>28533187
They have to run a lot of boost to make Diesel burn that fast
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:56:03 AM No.28533263
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>>28533255
>Americans invented the idea of pollution
low q bait
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:36:04 AM No.28533307
>>28533263
I give what is earned
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 5:39:40 AM No.28533513
>>28533012
>It'd be moronic to put it in a compact car or CUV.
The 70+ mpg the VW Polo got seems like a decent enough reason.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:12:00 AM No.28533546
>>28532846 (OP)
Diesel burns slowly in comparison to gas and you can't make diesel without also making gas.
Before internal combustion was invented, gasoline was dumped into open pits and burned, because it was a byproduct of oil refining.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:48:33 AM No.28533573
>>28533047
>Diesel saves $$$
Only if you are covering many miles daily like a truck, for commuting to work and a small weekend trip, you end up spending more on the maintenance of a diesel engine vs regular gas.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:07:08 AM No.28533584
>>28532846 (OP)
If you're going to force a single fuel it should be ethanol.

Yeah it's gay but it's the only fuel that's also a renewable resource and carbon neutral. Plus it's high octane as fuck.

>Inb4 muh range
EVe have shittier ranges

>Inb4 muh water buildup
Not my fucking problem since I actually drive my car.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:23:20 AM No.28533595
>>28533573
You don't, retard. Gasoline engines break often having many unnecessary parts like spark plugs.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:25:42 AM No.28533601
>>28533595
>sparkplugs
>gasoline engine
>unnecessary
I think you and most of the world have different definitions of unnecessary
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:25:53 AM No.28533602
>>28533261
Diesel likes boost unlike gasoline which need Null Atmosphere
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:27:08 AM No.28533603
>>28533601
Diesel engines do not need those. its like nature itself tries to say diesel is the way to go.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:27:56 AM No.28533604
>>28533603
I'm well aware. For a gas engine, on the other hand, they're quite necessary.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:32:37 AM No.28533607
This but for electricity. Only backwards ass America still clings to fossil fuels. Europe and China are making huge investments in renewable energy sources. They subsidize EVs rather than the awful petrol industries. EVs can enable a level of sustainable car adoption that for ICE will kill the planet.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:35:10 AM No.28533608
>>28533603
>spark plugs bad!
>$200 a piece, notoriously unreliable glow plugs good!
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:35:39 AM No.28533609
>>28533607
>>>/hm/
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:58:09 PM No.28533783
Diesel isn't good for short distances, it gets carbon buildup
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 1:03:59 PM No.28533790
>>28533607
Chinks run their country on aussie coal m8
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:39:27 PM No.28533877
>>28533609
>>28533790
Stop replying to ragebait posts