assume that you get the extra bed space back & throw in a bench seat for shits and giggles.
why/why not?

>>28534823 (OP)
No I rather buy this, an actual small truck

>>28534823 (OP)
Rather drive an S10

>>28534823 (OP)
no thanks

Maverick is a light gardening truck. More bed space won't help it at all.

>>28534823 (OP)
I wouldn't and I currently own a Maverick. I sat in the back seat at the dealership and thats probably the last time someone will sit back there. The under-seat and behind-seat storage is nice. I put groceries in the back seat because this is my first truck and don't fully trust the wind to not scatter loose cargo like that. Regardless, unless it were significantly cheaper a 2-door Maverick wouldn't be on my list of vehicles to buy.

That all said, I would fully understand why small businesses and guys just starting out in their careers would buy one. They'd have to up the payload capacity higher than 1000lbs, thats just 25 bags of mulch/dirt/rocks that currently fills up the 5.5' bed. If you added more space someone may overload it by 50% or more and fuck it up for the rest of us.

>>28534831
Maybe if Dodge spent less money trying to buy safety awards and more money on quality engineering they'd make a worth a fuck truck

>>28534823 (OP)
>>28534831
Reject bulbous curvature, embrace the bricc of the 2 door small but long bed trucc

>>28534863
>more money on quality engineering
I remember when JD Powers announced Dodge winning the "prestigious" initial quality award and nobody, including dealerships, could explain what the fuck meant. Supposedly it was supposed to mean every vehicle was well made from the factory while ignoring the customer complaints, flaws, and defects.

>>28534823 (OP)
Rather have 4 doors and long bed so it’s a no from me, also suspension not made of wet noodles

>>28534823 (OP)
If they put a mechanical diesel in it then yeah

Is the Maverick unibody?

>>28535006
Yes it is. I think based on a ford focus or escape?

>>28535008
can it actually tow? Ford says 4000lbs but I'm skeptical of that with unibody + hybrid drivetrain.

>>28534823 (OP)
Single cabs are fucking horrible and useless. I don't know why they get romanticized here. If dedicated fleet trucks aren't wanted in single cab configurations I really don't know why a normal person would ever want one.

4 door pickups are for obese dicklets that use their trucks to haul groceries. 2 doors are the only acceptable pickups.

>>28535018
While it CAN tow 4k lbs doing so is a pretty bad idea. Unless you set your tongue weight perfectly (which nobody does) your rear end is going to be sacked out and murdering your rear tires. You're also going to be going up hills at 5k rpm while doing sub 10mpg. With tow ratings being so high these days a lot of people don't realize how heavy even a "light" 4k lb load can be and what it will do to your truck if things go to shit. I've seen little 2k lb trailers put 3/4 tons on 2 wheels and almost roll them. tldr: just use the right tool for the job.

>>28535018
I personally haven't towed anything yet, just the 800lbs of mulch but it felt fine and I've seen many guys towing small utility trailers with them. Keep in mind, a flat bed trailer already eats up 1500-2000lbs of towing weight so you're not likely flat-towing a car. So you're limited to utility trailers, skidoo/boat trailers, or motorcycle trailers.

The eCVT isn't a CVT at all; but the H50 and improved H55 are known to be really good. Super robust, rather overbuilt because its a new design, but they're definitely not bad in this truck. The glass jaw is the unibody for hauling and towing. Guys have overloaded them to test the limits and it ended up doing okay. I think its why they're so popular: they're super robust vehicles.

>>28535031
so buy a Tacoma then, got it.

>>28535020
We need a beaner to weigh in

It's unibody.
It's essentially a cuckover with the back lobbed off.

>>28535037
No... That's just as bad. Those things struggle to move just themselves unladen. If you have 4k lbs to tow semi regularly you should buy a half ton.

>>28534823 (OP)
bleak

>>28535059
>Buys a pickup truck to haul kids around

>>28535068
What's wrong with that? Trucks are one of the best family vehicles out there.

Keep 4 doors, add a mid-gate. I think that would be the best solution.

>>28535074
Why a midgate?

>>28535078
At least you could sleep in it. Why you would buy a "truck" you can't sleep in is beyond me.

>>28535071
Trucks have been bastardized by people thinking they need a plush luxo interior truck to haul kids and dogs around when almost any sedan, CUV, or SUV can do it as well or better.
People who want real trucks, single cab with a decent engine are treated like weirdos now. They only offer that in base worker trim with an I4 now because everyone "needs" a gigantic pickup even though they're scared to put things in the bed.
I don't even like trucks, but you don't need one to haul two kids around.

>>28535083
Why would you go for a sedan, CUV or SUV when the truck costs the same or less, gets the same fuel economy but can do so much more? If you have two kids you don't really need a big 3 row SUV, a crew cab pickup will do just fine. You people need to stop thinking of trucks as trucks. They're sedans with beds now.

>>28535082
>Why you would buy a "truck" you can't sleep in is beyond me.
You mean not in the bed with the tailgate down?

Why would you want to sleep in the cab?

>>28535088
>They're sedans with beds now.
That's my issue here. I like small cars. Because everyone thinks they "need" a truck sedans and coupes are more rare now and trucks get cheaper due to economy of scale.
My 15 y.o. compact has a higher towing capacity than the Maverick without the optional tow package and it can seat 5 grown adults with legroom to spare.

>>28535093
>You mean not in the bed with the tailgate down?
Yeah. I can't even do that in a Maverick. Sleeping with my feet hanging off the tailgate in the middle of winter or in a place where I'm not at the top of the food chain sounds real great.

>Why would you want to sleep in the cab?
Because it's heated, insulated and sheltered from the elements?

>>28535101
Nobody is buying shit because they "need" it. They buy it because they want it. I like small cars too but I'm not expecting a manufacturer to make them for the 50 people who will actually buy them. Sedans and coupes died because they were useless.

>>28535020
Because single cabs are cozy, and trucks used to be basic second vehicles in a family, not do all general purpose vehicles.

>>28535088
Because an suv built on the same chassis with the same powertrain is more practical for most people in day to day life because they hardly ever use the bed. And in the rare instance you need to move something that you don't want to put in the back of the suv you just use a cheap utility trailer.

>>28535163
Not being able to recline your seat is comfy? I don't think so. Crew cabs can also be basic second vehicles hence fleets buying them over single cabs.

>>28535168
>Because an suv built on the same chassis with the same powertrain is more practical for most people in day to day life because they hardly ever use the bed.
How many truck based SUV's are still made? How many have V8's? There's very few that have the interior room of a crew cab pickup. A bed with a tonneau cover also has more cargo capacity. Trailers are a pain in the ass.

>>28535163
>basic second vehicles in a family,
So a completely useless segment?
For $19.99 i can rent a uhaul to get the plywoods and mulch 2 times i year
No one needs a small, affordable truck
What *FEW* people need is fuckhuge heavy duty trucks

>>28534823 (OP)
2 door F150 is too close in price to not upgrade.

>>28535106
>Because it's heated, insulated and sheltered from the elements?
Maybe because I'm 6' but I wouldn't even want to sleep inside of an F150; it'd be really cramped and not good for sleep anyway. Maybe its just the camping I did, but the only time I slept in a car it was at one of those yuppie camp sites where you had your own little plot and neighbors car-camping near you. It wasn't really camping.

>>28535175
>No one needs a small, affordable truck
THEY SHOULD ALL BE XBOXFUCKHUEG AND UNAFFORDABLE EVEN WITH 120-MONTH FINANCING

You're being that guy saying nobody needs a truck unless they're hauling 12,000lbs of equipment and pulling tree stumps again.

>>28534823 (OP)
I feel like I can probably haul just as much, if not more, in my hatchback with roof racks.

>>28534823 (OP)
A 2 door maverick with an ≥80" box would be sick, but it needs to be sold as a poverty spec basic work truck or fleet vehicle. fill the niche that the small ranger left behind when it died in 2012 and you'll have a winner.

>>28534823 (OP)
I don't want anything with a transverse engine

>>28535552
that guy is right THOUGH

>>28535643
No, he's right in his own mind. He's not right any other way

>>28535715
>n-nuh uh!
wow anon very convincing argument