Thread 28535115

Instead, the new Supra will use an in-house 2L hybrid 4banger that’s said to make 400HP with great tunability

Man people really will buy anything in hopes to being "different"

You cuttin your own nose to scorn your face

So it'll suck. Shame because the BMW Zupra was the first good toyota ever.

corvette wins again

>>28535115 (OP)
Hybrid 2L sounds gay but the recycled plastic BMW engine has no place in a Toyota. Hopefully they put bones on it so that it's not a complete downgrade relative to the mk4. They really tarnished the supra name with all the fake vents, slushbox, maccas and plastic engine.

I wish the rumors that they were going to use Mazda's I6 were true.
IMO they fucked up with the V by adding a manual too late more than with the engine choice.

>>28535115 (OP)
>next supra will be a celica

>>28535115 (OP)
Why did the last generation Supra needed to be built with BMW parts?

Could it not have be based on the Toyota 86?
Could they not throw a bigger engine in it and make it work? Because the first and second gens of the Supra were just hotrodded Celica's.

>>28535136
lc500 should have been the supra, problem solved.

>>28535115 (OP)
GRENADE ENGINE LET'S GO!!!!

>>28535115 (OP)
>I4
Bruh just give it awd and call it the Celica

>>28535170
there will be a celica exactly like that

>>28535128
delusional
it’s one of the best engines ever made

>>28535115 (OP)
I welcome this. Toyota hybrid is excellent. We don't need crazy power for the street, especially if it's a responsive power.

We need as many manual rwd options in the market as possible. Let's hope Nissan can stay alive and limp the Z along

>>28535136
BMW approached Toyota, having seen them successfully partner with Subaru for the 86, about joint financing a pair of sports cars to go up against Porsche. The Z4 against the Boxster, and the Supra against the Cayman. Toyota wasn't willing to develop a new inline6 for it at that time.

>>28535178
>turbo
>responsive power
pick 1

Why don't just make RWD Coupe Camry

>>28535201
too big too heavy. why do you want a commuter with rwd?

>>28535212
>why do you want a commuter with rwd?
Why would you want anything else?

>>28535212
why wouldn't you? they used to make a lot of them

>>28535214
>>28535228
you want a proper AWD system

>>28535237
I've got a manual Subaru with their real AWD system, locked 50/50 FR split. I've had Subarus for 11 years now. I've also had RWDs 15 years total (used to always have 2 cars so it all overlaps).
AWD is one of my least favorite things about my Subaru, RWD is the best. I could see wanting AWD if it snows like crazy where you live, but RWD is the fun config and it's all I want in any kind of car or truck.

>>28535237
Boring as fuck

>>28535136
>Could it not have be based on the Toyota 86?
the Toyota 86 is based off an ancient Subaru Platform - its not even the newest Subaru Global Platform.

>>28535244
>implying a fat and weak camry with rwd could do anything fun at all
kek

>>28535115 (OP)
>hybrid
>4banger
DOA

>>28535198
Brother, it's not the 1980s anymore. New turbo technology, electronic fuel injection strategies, and a correct sized set up means no discernible lag.

>>28535201
Camry unironically looks good in the upper trims.

>>28535241
11 year evo owner here. I love everything about the car, but I somewhat wish it handled worse and was rwd so that I could have more low speed fun with it. Tempted to get a 370z but then I'd lose my back seat and storage space. I'm in the commonwealth so no cheap saloons available, either

>>28535401
Only needs to be 300hp to have a lot of fun

>>28535466
t. never driven an NA 911 and turbo 911 back to back to feel the drastic difference

>>28535237
but i just want rwd

>>28535237
even fwd is better than awd

>>28535472
At what? Understeering? Yes.

>>28535477
At everything but doing sick skidz

>>28535143
Exactly, and if the rumors are true the next-gen supra might be underpinning the next-gen LC500.

>>28535115 (OP)
>in-house 2L hybrid 4banger that’s said to make 400HP with great tunability
I think it won't have a great deal of headroom to tune at that point.

>>28535136
BMW basically developed the Supra for free and only wanted access to Toyotas hybrid R&D

>>28535560
>shitty nickel batteries
lol

>>28535136
Because BMW is literally the only company still making big inline sixes

>>28535115 (OP)
The bodywork shape was great but the fake vents were ultra mega-gay.
I don't mind a 4banger that's built like crazy, I just hope they stop doing such gay bodywork.

I rib my friend with a supra all the time and he just mutters something about how you could theoretically remove the vents even though it leads to an empty cavity that goes nowhere.
Makes it feel like a fake enthusiast vehicle.

300 hp electric engine with 30 km range battery. Plus 100 hp quick not fast range extender.

>>28535115 (OP)
Should've been a shorter LC500 with less luxury and more sporty interior, and the V6 turbo they use in the LS500

>>28535776
well Merc is developing new inline6 and v8s this very minute

>>28535115 (OP)
>B58/S58 engine
>Only thing with good performance from Toyota
>Only thing with good reliability from BMW
>Internally regarded as a terrible idea

>>28535466
>Tempted to get a 370z but then I'd lose my back seat and storage space. I'm in the commonwealth so no cheap saloons available, either
You want a G37 sedan

>>28535466
>300hp
depends how much the car weighs.

>toyota says
they haven't said shit. it's all speculation
>400 hp i4
they already have the numbers on how the i4 supra performed. they went to lengths touting the BMW partnership explicitly for the i6. don't be surprised if they add two more cylinders the g20e and make a 550-600 hp g30e

all mk5 supras need to come factory with the adro front bumper.

>>28535911
That actually looks decent, maybe better than stock. Rare for a body kit.

>>28535918
>>28535911
Agree to disagree. I don't live the stock front end but that looks worse.
>>28535143
Basically this
>>28535128
Agree. Glad the bimmer is out but a 2L anything is a hard pass for me. Why not a tuned up version of a 3ur, that's what I would actually consider.

I thought some Mazda Engineer said they were working on the next supra /86 with Toyota. And not that it would be an internal one?
Also doesnt Toyota still have the 2GR-FE V6? They sell that stuff to Lotus still for the the Emira. I'm sure a lot of people wouldnt mind having a cheap and reliable Emira.

RIP.

>>28535964
>doesnt Toyota still have the 2GR-FE V6?
not enough HP. they'd have to boost it and if they did, they'd just use the 3.4 TT
>I'm sure a lot of people wouldnt mind having a cheap and reliable Emira.
that's basically what the leaks about the new Celica are

>>28535776
Mazda now has a 3.3L I6 Turbo. It was rumored months ago to be the next Supra engine but maybe not anymore. Maybe they'll have a choice between I4 and I6 but I doubt it.

>>28535970
If so I might get a new celica. I'm still waiting for the MR2 reveal that is also supposed to happen sometime.

>>28535908
rumors = official facts
that’s how things work around here

>>28535115 (OP)
>Instead, the new Supra will use an in-house 2L hybrid 4banger
kek, fucking toyota. They can't do anything right. First they put the worst configuration of engine available in the nu-86 when it would have been better in every possible way with an I4, then they put a high strung I3 in the corolla GR instead of a 2L Turbo 4, now they're killing off the B58 which is probably the best engine one of their cars has had since the 2JZ and they're making the supra a fucking hybrid LMAO

I don't give a shit if it makes 1000HP with 900 lb-ft of torque. Anything other than an NA inline 6 is fucking GAY!

>>28536148
They want to the be the #1 paypig brand, competing with Porsche.

>>28535313
That was deliberate- the old Subaru platform has decades of aftermarket and know-how available. Lots of shit from a WRX will just work. Want big brakes? Pam, they fit. Wanna turbo it? There are more options than you can look at in one lifetime. Differential? WRXes eat diffs for breakfast, so smart guys at Quaife have made an indestructible one. Everything is at best bolt-in, at worst very familiar and doesn't take much time to re-engineer.

>>28535120
delusional