Thread 28675727

Was the Iron Duke a good engine?

>>28675727 (OP)
Define "good"

>>28675741
Not bad

>>28675727 (OP)
It would be a better water pump than an engine.

>>28675727 (OP)
Lots of potential but you have to spend money to get there.

Namely they're a prime example of engines that breathe through a straw, from the throttle body/carb right down to the valve. Ditch the intake, port and polish the heads, better exhaust, and you can make decent power for a 4 banger, and with modern fixings and know how, not bad power for a 4 banger. They're super oversquare doe, but 4 inch bore x 3 inch stroke, so you'll have to spin it to the moon to make power out of it, which isn't a pushrods strong point

>>28675727 (OP)
Of course not. Are you fucking retarded? The iron duke is a monument to everything a car engine should not be. It's the opposite of a good engine.
It's not big, it's not exciting, it's not reliable. It was badly out of date when it was brand new. There's nothing to like about this engine unless you're the kind of person who likes 3 legged dogs with brain damage.

>The most powerful engine was a 2.7 litre 232hp engine.
Wow. Amazing.

>>28675727 (OP)
Yes
It was a reliable engine that accomplished what it was supposed to.

Engines have
Power
Reliability
Fuel economy

To be a bad engine, it has to fail all 3.
Iron duke were reliable.
And got Ok ish MPG for the era.

>>28675933
Are you high? The iron duke failed all 3. It had shit power for its size, shit reliability compared to the japs and shit real world fuel economy.

I had an early 80s Camaro with that iron puke. It was stupid easy to restore that engine and get that car running reliably again even after sitting for decades. Power? No. It could and did move that car which is what I wanted in a really inexpensive car for errands around town but any highway driving was scary. Sadly, rust ate the frame and body panels while the body folded in half after a few months of driving it.

>>28675941
You obviously never owned one or repaired any.
Although I was mostly dealing with USPS dukes. No normal cars.

>>28675941
Dukes were immortal if people changed the oil. A lot of “””people””” didn’t.

>>28675966
>you've never eaten shit so you don't know what shit tastes like.
As a road car engine the iron duke is fucking embarrassing and got humiliated in every way by pretty much everything from japan. What goes through the mind of someone with nothing better to do than defend a shitty engine on a car discussion forum?

>>28675973
immortal if you change the oil by american standards and immortal if you change the oil by toyota standards are completely different things.

>>28675975
how many japanese engines from the '70s are still running in fleets like the USPS?

0

>>28675941
It was very understressed, so it has solid reliability and stomaches the shittiest farm tractor gas you can find. If you don't push it expecting modern Honda perfromance, it's pretty efficient too.
>captcha JDMX4

>>28675982
What a retarded argument. You're saying the iron duke is good because the US government wastes millions of taxpayer dollars every year on a busted pile of shit that was already outdated when it was brand new?

>>28675988
What's the difference between understressed and inefficient?

>>28675975
Weird Japanese and shit eating obsession anon.
Do you have a poop fetish?
Anyways,
The Duke is still alive and running millions of miles a year.

>>28676323
Literally anything would be alive and running millions of miles a year with government funding. The police used cassette tapes into the 2000s because the governemt paid for it.

>>28675727 (OP)
You can drag one out of a field and it'll still run. I'll burn smoke more than a jamaican but it'll run.

>>28676332
>Uh the Duke is bad because the government pays for oil changes.
Anon did a Iron Duke fuck your mom or something?
Or did the mailman?

>>28675941
Plenty of Grumman LLVs still on the road somehow, champ.

>>28675998
Annual repair costs

it’s an economy engine that does economy things. and it’s pretty good at that. what more do you want? are you a honda stance fag that expected an engine used by USPS mail trucks to output and behave the same as a fucking K24 or some shit? they’re like american’s bmc b-series

I hated the goddam oil filters. They're in that large circular part on the bottom of the oil pan. Those would seize due to extended change intervals and would be a bitch to remove. Then it would drip oil forfuckingever so you were guaranteed to get oil on you. Sometimes the oil filter itself would be varnished in place so you'd have to tear it apart to get it out all the while being dripped on. All for a customer service I didn't want to do to begin with.

>>28676670
>proprietary (?) oil filter inside the pan like a mid-2000s german car
what in the goddamn

>>28676670
Thats a pretty cool design tho if it was implemented correctly. Using a regular socket vs. a filter wrench is sweet

>>28676728
>Using a regular socket
There was something wrong with doing that but it's been too long and (30+ years) I can't quite get a lock on what it was. I'm thinking the socket didn't fit the cover that well and would strip the corners off if it took any real force to remove. Vague memory says the "nut" had a taper to it that prevented much bite with a regular socket. Those serrations around the outside were more useful. There was an expanding tool that used those (picrel) and it worked much better and we all used that instead

>>28675727 (OP)
90hp from 2.5 litres. Oh yeah, a real unit.

>>28676794
what the fuck no wonder these things had such a bad reputation, i bet the average owner never once changed that filter

>>28675991
The fact that it ran on neglect and being a busted pile of shit for 40 years is an American hallmark. A Japanese engine may have ran much better but if you treated it the same way, it would've been remelted into something different.

>>28675727 (OP)
Its like an old turbodiesel. Without the economy. Or the reliability. Or a turbo.

>>28675727 (OP)
>ITT: once again, benchracing faggots are unable to comprehend use cases that do not include "hurr durr I mash gas pedal and GO EPIC FAST!!!1!"

>>28676794
Thats awful wtf