Thread 28690304

Did it save sedans? This is the only sedan I see in traffic nowadays. Is it a good car?

no the interior is cheap garbage and its a meme because the battery capacity is decent
it set the standard for cars with buttonless terrible unusable interiors and has been languishing barely updated for years
electric cars are 100% a meme

>>28690319
>it set the standard for cars with buttonless terrible unusable interiors and has been languishing barely updated for years
I saw the latest Model 3 atleast brought back the blinkers (lol) and now also has a front camera. But yeah the range/battery is what sets Tesla apart. The 2026 model is rated for 750km of range in WLTP. That's so far beyond anything else in that price class.

>>28690304 (OP)
I had one and I disliked it so much I switched to a ICE Audi
People aren’t kidding when they say the interior is cheap

>>28690304 (OP)
It's a good commuter appliance if you don't enjoy driving.
That constitutes enough of a "good car" for most today, that just need something to commute to work and back that drives itself just enough to let you check your phone while driving.
>but the tessie M3 performance goes 0-60 in-
Don't care, I've never seen any Model 3 go even 1mph above the speed limit. I'm pretty sure most just have 'autopilot' on all the time.

>>28690319
>>28690338
"interior is cheap" is a meme and you've never sat in one. you only think it looks cheap because the only experience you have with it is looking at jpgs online. the reality is the interior is, albeit minimalist, objectively very high quality. it's reminiscent of 90s lexus. fit and finish is well above average, no hard plastics anywhere, alcantara/felt/pleather/whatever on every single surface, no piano black, no creaky squeaky center consoles like some unnamed germans, you know who you are. double paned glass all around, sound deadening behind every panel, at 70mph the ambient noise level is only 1db higher than a 6th gen s class.

>>28690304 (OP)
>Did it save sedans?
every single one is an afront to god you fucking kike

>>28690321
>The 2026 model is rated for 750km of range in WLTP
but anon you know that number is bullshit right?
both the rating system is optimistic AND tesla is known for fudging the numbers?

>>28690356
I have as an uber and it was shockingly bad like felt like a lego car.

>>28690304 (OP)
YWNBARC

>>28690356
I drove a dual motor y and a standard 3; they both fucking suck
Noisy, rattly cabins, cheap as fuck materials, buttons for turn signals, no buttons for hvac...
It's like the retard who designed them has never driven a good car like a Sacco era Benz or STRAIGHT SIX E39

>>28690367
There are no gods you kike

>>28690348
>Don't care, I've never seen any Model 3 go even 1mph above the speed limit. I'm pretty sure most just have 'autopilot' on all the time.
Despite the performance credentials, Tesla owners tend to be very cautious or very oblivious drivers. If they have Tesla's own insurance, it datalogs all of their driving so it's cheaper to let the autopilot take over.

Now if you want the exact opposite, V8 Chargers and Challengers have good performance but insane insurance premiums because the usual suspects keep running from police in them.

>>28690372
>>28690369
you sat in one of the old ones once. the new ones are all new. it's like me sitting in a 1997 A3 and saying new S7s are shit.

>>28690356
It’s the only car where I’ve accidently shoulder checked the seatbelt paneling and made that completely pop it off

>>28690375
No, it's like me driving a 2023 model y and a 2023 model 3
You're saying those are the equivalent of a 1997 vw? Kek

>>28690348
>I've never seen any Model 3 go even 1mph above the speed limit
This is actually the dumbest thing to say. I've never seen any Bugatti Chiron go over 200mph but that doesn't mean they can't do it.

>>28690376
okay. you're right. i can admit when i'm wrong. you sat in some beat up clapped out rental spec 9 year old car one time so that means all the new ones suck too. can't argue with that logic.

>>28690379
What they're saying is tessie drivers are slowfaglets so what does it matter how fast any tessie is

>>28690383
No, i DROVE a realtively new model y and 3; they're pieces of shit

>>28690369
>but anon you know that number is bullshit right?
WLTP range is not for Tesla to decide, that's an independent metric. But you're right that WLTP always vastly overestimates range. I use this site

https://ev-database.org/car/3330/Tesla-Model-3-Long-Range-RWD

Which IMO gives far more reliable metrics. 580km range is probably correct real world range and class leading for its price class.

>>28690375
>new cars are... le new!?!??!?!?
>AHHHHHH IM GOING INSANE!!!! SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!!!!!

>>28690378
>>28690387
Sure you did bud

>>28690356
>modern muttshit
>on par with nip quality

>>28690372
>EV
>Noisy
Is this a copy pasted reddit comment cause that don't make sense nigga

>>28690806
wind/road noise anon

>>28690321
>The 2026 model is rated for 750km of range in WLTP
In reality, you'll be lucky to get half of that range. Remember to never drive it in cold or hot weather. Treat it like a princess and only drive it in perfect weather at a slow speed.
>>28690356
0.00001 jeet money has been transferred to your account, good job ranjesh.

>>28690383
stfu pajeet

>>28690304 (OP)
>Is it a good car?
yes, very.

the base model is arguably the best value new car for sale today. here in europe, its comparable in price to a base golf, while being a full segment larger, 300hp vs 115 from a 1.5liter, lol, RWD vs FWD, and way cooler to boot.
the performance version is the cheapest 3sec 0-60car you can get, and will leave anything south of a 911 turbo or pricier EVs for dead at a stop light.

>inb4 muh screens only
tesla does it well. i don't like it either, but given the choice between a tesla and some other car that tries to ape the tesla thing and does it worse....

>inb4 interior quality
its MUCH better than it was in the early days
but yes, its not a luxury car. not that you can actually get a good interior at this price point
don't start fucking telling me about audis. firstly, they're more expensive. and secondly and more importantly, i don't care if they feel more solid, the tesla UI is MILES better and that counts for way more on the daily.

overall, the model 3 is definitely not perfect, but easily one of the best choices amongst new cars.
the best argument against it is the existence of old model 3s, which are half the price and only lose you some sound proofing and suspension turning from the enw model. (which you can easily add/backport respectively, for way less money than the delta between used and new)

>>28691079

Denounce vishnu right now

Sisters.. not again!

>>28691052
See>>28690398

>>28691902
These type of retractable door handles are so stupid and gay and dangerous. Just ban them.

>>28693105
those handles are hinged, not retractable.
however i agree they're awkward and more complicated than a regular handle, i guess i don't really mind it on mine.

>>28690304 (OP)
I would get one but have no place to charge. Maybe slow charging at the office but that ain't solution.

>>28690374
>, it datalogs all of their driving
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>28693545
if it wasn't for the aforementioned logging, tracking, surveilling, stalking, and OTA updates i might want one as a secondary car.
I live pretty far out in the country and wfh, a simple "LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE YOU CUNTY FAGGOTS" plug-in electric that has ~200miles of range would suffice for the random trips into town a couple times a week. (I'd still want an ICE for.. you know, driving as opposed to transportation)

in my view, the relationship with the manufacturer of almost anything i buy ends with that transaction; these companies wanting "long tail revenue" to cunt us with ads and tracking and surveillance and stalking etc etc and all that nonsense is simply offensive =/

>>28693562
Nothing wrong with ota updates. Flash at stealership for ice is like 150€.
Tracking sucks but phones are so much bigger cause for concern.
I would like to see some cost reduction model 3 with all the tech removed since I don't care about it. Good phone mount and bluetooth is enough tech for me.
I'll eventually get model 3 to replace daily car when and if I fix charging infrastructure issue. I'm not paying electro jew at public chargers here in eu 10x the going rate for electricity.

>>28693562
>wanting "long tail revenue" to cunt us with ads
Tesla is still the better guy in that regard compared to BMW/Audi.

>>28693576
I’ve yet to hear a compelling argument for why a CAR should ever need OTA updates. It’s a car, if it has so much tech that their jeets can’t get it right at release; I’d rather not have said jeet technology to begin with. It’s a problem chasing a solution.

>>28693604
whatever man, maybe best way is to rip out injectors and ecu from your car get adapter plate and just install carburetor.

>>28690375
No anon this would be like sitting in a 2015 S7 and saying it was shit you bumbling electric car driving retard. I hope you choke on electrolyte vapors and die.

>>28693562
If anything OTA updates have made old Teslas feel deceptively new. Teslas get OTA updates, ICE gets endless recalls to have the same software tweaks.

>>28693611
Oh please. how on earth did car makers EVER manage to produce cars without the ability to bug fix them after release? The silicon attitude/brainrot towards
>ship fast, fix later
has spread, and it's not a good thing.

Again, if the ECU is so fucking complicated that the 1099 jeets coding for it can't do it right, maybe scale back the complexity to a reasonable level?

>>28693710
How will we have planned obsolescence if we don't add more garbage to the car every year?

If we stopped adding features people would just keep driving the perfected 2013-2014 Toyota Camry because it is the greatest ICE vehicle that will ever be made.

Luckily zoomers and millennials are dumb as fuck and think they need an IPAD to play with while they drive to fit in at medical school or whatever.

>Nazi Model 3 from 2021, 90k km driven, sold for 25k Eurobux
What the? Isn't this a really good deal for a car in decent condition and battery health and still with a valid battery warranty for another three years? Why are they so cheap?

>>28693722
The common conception is that the constant OTA updates for old Teslas have if anything delayed their obsolescence.

>>28693545
>but that ain't solution.
actually, it probably is.
if you get to slow charge for 8 hours, 5 days a week, that's going to be more than enough for 99% of commutes
ofc, by all means, do the math for your case in particular, but in general, it should be good enough

>>28693562
>if it wasn't for the aforementioned logging, tracking, surveilling, stalking,
yea, that's every modern car im afraid.

>OTA updates
in tesla's case, that's a positive
lots of good shit lands in those updates, and unlike other mfgs, they don't brick your car or break shit

>>28693710
>Oh please. how on earth did car makers EVER manage to produce cars without the ability to bug fix them after release?
they didn't.
pretty much every car in the history of the automobile shipped with flaws that were fixed on later model years
the difference is, back in the day, those flaws were exclusively hardware. now we also get software flaws. and while a hardware flaw requires a visit to the dealer to rectify, a software flaw is fixable with a software patch, which can simply be downloaded. couldn't do that 30 years ago, you had to physically switch out a memory chip or something.

>>28694751
>a software flaw is fixable with a software patch, which can simply be downloaded. couldn't do that 30 years ago,
Lots of car brands still don't have Over The Air updates for their complex software systems. I know the Taycan has been criticized for needing to go to the dealer to get the software updated.