Hiking Boots…

>>2816041 (OP)
Lowa is the hiking boot of the white man.

>>2816102
And for the Black, Asian and Hispanic?

>>2816102
>Lowa is the hiking boot of the white man.
Laughs in Limmer

>>2816161
Nike Air Force 1s

>>2816191
Can anybody recommend boots like those, but from European brand?

I really like Danner Mountain Light Cascade design, and would like to get something simmilar. !00% leather, no GTX

>>2816238
Hanwag maybe? Not cheap but I really like the pair I have and it's worth saying that my other favorite boots are Danner.

Can anon recomed cream for nubuck?->>2816188

>>2816210
Lol

>>2816102
Lots of Bad reviews on this Model

>>2816268
I've had my renegades for two years, lots of miles on them, one of the most comfortable boots I've owned.

Do you guys have any oppinions about turkish boot brand YDS? They are a military contractor who usualy produces iowa clones.

they are half price of iowas.

for an example Lowa Zephyr Gtx mk II is about 340-350 usd.

YDS TORNADO GTX( one with goretex lining and vibram soles) is 130 usd from factory shop.

>>2816294

>>2816294
I have lowa zephyr mk 2, but will take it as a second pair to change if the main gets wet.
Main pair is this ->>2816188
It doesn't bend on the ankle and is harder at all.
Lowa, and this analog are better for everyday usage.

>>2816238
Sorry, I didn't notice you were asking about the design in particular until I had written my post, but I'll let it stand anyway:
The Lundhags Vandra II Mid could fit the bill if you're looking for a medium high boot.
Personally I'm not a big fan of D-rings. In part because I've got high arches, so I need to adjust the lacing on my boots a great deal to make them fit, and have at times pulled the D-rings out without using much force. I prefer eyelets for that reason. The boots also come in a high version, and you have the choice between gray suede or brown leather.
I have my D-ring-equipped boots in with the cobbler, but if the D-rings come off again I'll be looking at Lundhags to replace them.

>>2816294
>>2816295
I once bought some expensive boots from the PX that supposedly had a lifetime warranty. They lasted a year of heavy use before completely wearing such large holes into the soles I couldn't look past it anymore. Those boots are all memes, the standard issue boots are actually more sturdy and last longer under the same conditions. Those boots are made for your duty station office work, not actual hard work.

>>2816041 (OP)
Are those Hoka Kaha?
I have a pair of them, but I'm not too happy with them.
Fit and comfort is great, but I wore down the sole in just over a year. I don't drag my feet, but I get at minimum 5-6 kilometres a day in them while just walking the dog, and more on the weekends.
The grip wasn't too great on muddy terrain, and it's all over too wide and clumsy for my taste.
They were a bit too low for wet terrain, so you'll want gaiters to keep your feet and shoes dry, because once they got wet they were a bloody nightmare to dry out.
I keep them for walking on asphalt and gravel where I don't need to worry about grip, and in the winter they're my dedicated shoes for wearing ice spikes on.

>>2816041 (OP)
I find boots that dry fast to be more important than water proof boots, because no matter what, water always gets inside.

Not exactly hiking related, but are Danners a good boot for outdoor work? I'm not looking for construction, steel toe boots or anything. Just want something that's going to shrug of me accidentally kicking a thorn bush or cactus while I'm out and about on my land.

Anybody know of a pair of hiking boots that are actually somewhat stylish and don't make you look like a retard with downs?

>>2816335
Danners seem to have pretty bad QC based on reviews. Just go to your nearest outdoor store and try on different leather kiting boots. If you want something really durable look into Fire boots and Chainsaw/Logging boots.

>>2816348
Jim Green boots look pretty good and are fairly cheap for full leather boots. No wide sizing and shallow lugs are two obvious downsides I see.

>>2816361
Thanks, babe.

>>2816361
>>2816370

Jim greens are great, especially for their price. Wear my barefoot African rangers every day, although if you get them you'll have to replace the sole every 6-12 months depending on how much you use them. Some of their boots come stock with a wide toe box which is great. Highly recommend the African Rangers, or if you plan on getting wet and muddy super often either the Razorbacks or the Baobab boots.

What would be a good boot for hitchhiking? I keep seeing redditoids recommend trail runners but I'm backpacking and I need something good for both walking a lot in the city with a heavy backpack and walking out of the city into a bunch of brush and wetland.

I used to rock climb in cowboy boots with zero tread and it sucked ass, I'm ready for some real ass boots.

>>2816332
Boots/feet will never dry in certain conditions. Learn how to avoid getting water over your ankle in the first place. It's not that hard.

Looking for a boot req. Budget is $200

I'll be in Ecuador this summer where I'll be doing some hiking and archaeology work. Will primarily be in the Andean highlands, though might also do a day trip to the Amazon.

I like the look of the Jim Greens that were mentioned. Would those be appropriate for that environment?

>>2816295
These look nice. I like the longer neck.

Merrill MOAB 2

it's great

They are great, big wide toe boxes even on non-wide models. I have a few La Sportiva models and can't complain

>>2816238
>Can anybody recommend boots like those, but from European brand?
Unless you get the custom ones you have to go to the shop in NH to get fitted in person for, the off the shelf Limmers are made by Meindl in Germany to Limmer's specification
Higher quality than other Meindl's imo because it's all 1 piece of leather and the only seam is stitched 6 times
Meindl you don't get 1 piece leather until you hit the perfect, but it's in the back.
>and would like to get something simmilar. !00% leather, no GTX
If you have a normal width foot get the Limmer Ultralight, if you have a wide you'll have to go lightweight or heavier

>>2816238
Forgot in the last post
As for other brands
Dundas, Norwegian brand, a lot of their boots are made in Austria
Steinkogler (not just the old issue boots for the Austrian army, they make new boots still), will be built like a brick shithouse, look at their catalog tons of options
Meindl, Perfekt and Superperfekt are 1 piece boots, the rest aren't
Hanwag, supposedly their double stitched boots have gone down in quality in recent years. Idk if that applies to the Bergell top and Sepp, but those are heavy duty
Diemme Roccia (idk how they are quality wise)
Not European, but Jim Greens deserve a mention

>>2816294
No clue about boots, but whenever I buy anything Turkish it turns out be shit.

I just bought a pair of Merrill Moab mid hiking shoes. The REI store near me shows them to be in stock.
I was reminded that REI does not want white, politically conservative males as customers.
I am glad I remembered REI's corporate politics because Merrill had the exact pair of hiking shoes I wanted for $20 less than what REI advertised , including free express shipping.
I sent an email to REI corporate telling them this also.

Jim green barefoot African ranger
Do you need more?

>>2817077
I wear ar8s with tyre wedges, I love them, but they are damn heavy. Considering a single layer pair of barefoot shoelies or something similar. Just one layer of leather and a barefoot sole.

never going back to big clunky boots

>>2816548
Limmer light weights are great.

screw your lowas, salomons and merrel all the way

>>2817057
Can attest; I stopped in for a new headlamp last week and you’d think you walked into the lesbian fashion store.
I am thankful I have a local outfitter who sell everything I’d ever need without me walking out geared up for a feminist cuddle party in the woods

yeah
https://runrepeat.com/salomon-xa-pro-3d-v9-gtx

>>2816335
You want some grade A certified meme boots? Altama PX jungle boots. Some dead stock boots wound up on eBay for below retail.

Can you guys shill me on Jim Greens? I'm looking for waterproof hiking boots that look decent, and these look nice. Back when I was interested in hiking, I was told that ankle support was important, but at least looking at their store, they don't seem to have much.

>>2817334
>buy one and half Schlomon shoe for price of three and half shoe, goy!

>>2816294
They are a brand that produce "military grade" boots in the purest sense - cheap enough to fill a contract.
what >>2816317 says is bang on the money.

YDS Kestrels were British Army issue c. 2016-19.They were NOT high liability i.e. not rated for combat or operations.
I had a pair for ~1yr that I had to exchange because the leather was all cracked BUT that was my own poor leather care and because they looked too shit for parade. The boot wasn't functionally compromised.
A mate of mine still wears them 7 years later as a barrack boot and occasionally for ex, and his still are holding up, so I wouldn't write off the brand as cheap shit. That said, of all the boots I've been issued they were definitely second worst after the current Iturri Patrol Boots.

They aren't chinkshit, they won't break after one use, but I'd personally say they aren't cheap enough to warrant not just buying the real deal.

>>2816395
Anything that works in temperate climates will work in the andes but if you go to the amazon there is really no getting around the absurd humidity. Might as well use flippers. Just get the best socks you can buy and have ankle support for when you trip into a root.

>>2816041 (OP)
>vivobarefoot tracker at leather
I expect to be roasted. Wanted a pair of shoes I can actually feel the ground with while putting around in the woods looking for salamanders and bugs. It was between these and a pair of barefoot african rangers, which weigh way more.

>>2817312
that's great. If they had stores over here I'd get one of those hats as a pale swede

>>2818273
Tropical army boots by Haix or Baltes should work well, and those are available at most surplus stores for about 25 to 60 bucks, in new or barely used condition.

>>2818297
Thought of picking up those African Rangers but then I found out about the heel issue and that it'd double the price to import. Vivobarefoot is my option now, but I'm worried that 2 socks + their insulated sole might not be enough for winter.

>>2818620
>heel issue
I hadn't heard about this. Heel slippage? My AR8s are still breaking in even after almost a year of daily wearing, the heel was very loose and had to double sock to prevent blisters.

>vivo
They just seem so fragile in comparison to a proper boot, but the weight savings.

>>2816394
>rains

>>2818297
Like everything else, only retards think there’s a carte blanche answer. Anyone saying “this is best” should be absolutely ignored. It’s really going to depend on trail conditions.

Barefoot shoes generally don’t have any kind of rock plate or heel shank, but if you’re on well established trails and only occasionally wandering into rougher areas it’s fine.

This is why people hiking the AT or PCT are almost all wearing trail runners. It’s fine, even in Pennsylvania. But if you’re doing something like the Pfiffner Traverse then Altra Lone Peaks aren’t a good idea.

Couldn't not buy these on sale right now. Considering dumping green or black leather dye on them. Still on sale BTW if you are a leaf it's a pretty good deal.

The cheapest ones they had at Walmart, and I wear them when I hike each and every morning, cunts.

Just copped these they arrive tomorrow. Usually I wear low cut hiking shoes but the hiking club i joined is carrying on about ankle support for insurance purposes
>inb4 hiking club insults
I also do hikes in my own time but its good for the social aspect as I live in a foreign country. There are different tiers for the slowpokes also.

>>2816041 (OP)
If you're going hiking get yourself some trail runners.

>>2816041 (OP)
Lone peak size wide my beloved...
normal shoes feel like foot binding now

>>2816238
https://www.gronell.it/en/products/tradition
Got some alpinism boots from them and a pair of trekking shoes, really like this brand overall, can't think why these would suck if that's what you're looking for.

>>2816433
I have these. The toe box is not wide, even on the wide model. However, solid boot - Vibram nano is hard to step back to from Megagrip and swap out the laces first thing.

>not hiking in prodigio pros

Last week I did my first hike through the carpathians,I had normal shoes and was raining a lot so I had a miserable time, so when I got back I got these shoes for myself

On the left are the vivo barefoot tracker at leather, haven't gone to the woods yet but very comfortable and light.

On the right my trusted Jim greens ar8s with an extra leather toe cap, also extremely comfortable but heavy, very heavy. I feel indestructable in the Jim greens. They just keep getting better as time passes, surely the other boots won't last nearly as long.

>>2816041 (OP)
I swear by my Merrell Moab2's. I'm on my 2nd pair.

>>2818741
>ankle support
Boots don't prevent rolled ankles at all. A low stack height, a wide toe box and strong ankles do.

>>2819742
>wide toe box
I wish Keen made a bit better quality shoes
My current favorites are Zamberlan (light, goretex, vibram soles, rubber protecting toe area) - but I miss how wide Keen were
Keen on the other hand - were wide and comfy, but glue disintegrated pretty fast

>>2817114
can these be resoled? i have a very similar model but the soles are completely flat

>>2819756
nah they're all glued / molded foam and rubber stuff

is goretex a death sentence for summer hiking

I swear literally every option is advertised as goretex/waterproof

>>2820078
Depends on the climate and conditions and how many specialized dedicated pairs of boots you want to keep. How hot does it get? Is there standing water? Will you use these in the snow as well?
I think waterproof is the best bet for all around boots since i often step in puddles or cross streams and regardless of temperature, feet are going to get hot anyways. Just don't submerge your feet and you'll be fine. Bring a change of socks if you're worried about sweaty feet

>>2817114
This but Sportiva is the way to go.

La Sportiva Raptor II's have been serving me well since last fall.

Kneel

For me (a racist white man) there is only Haix. Bavarian design, European made.
Not overly expensive.

>>2819397
How big are your feet bro?

>>2819575
just started wearing Merrell's this year. I'm in love. Better than my Keens, Obos, and Vasques by miles.

>>2818297
i'd go with the vivobarefoots. the only thing i don't like about them is the tread tends to be mud magnets so you won't be wearing them indoors unless your husband putting up a wanted posted.
i understand why people would get the ar8 or razorbacks or even vellies by jim green. i wouldnt use them but the african rangers use a softer form of an outsole. it's lifespan if used daily won't last a year. its a boot made with comfort in mind over utility which to me defeats the purpose of going the welted route. i sure as hell don't want to resole my boots every year if i can avoid it.
the earlier jim green models i mentioned use a harder rubber.
in contrast the vivobarefoots a company i tend to not recommend as they have plenty of models with shit outsoles but those tracker ones are some of the best barefoot shoe outsoles i've seen. i usually swap out insoles on mine though.
if i went the jim green route and worried about weight i'd just get the vellies and change out the insole. i dont see the purpose of going ar8 or razorback unless i needed that much ankle support when i can save the weight and use gaiters instead which go up the leg much higher.

>>2818620
unless you have excellent foot circulation barefoot boots and winter just don't go together. the only thing i could possibly imagine that is near barefoot and prob has a few mm lift and would work for winter (preferably dry winters away from oil due to natural rubber) is stekleger mukluks out of minnessota. it's made to be used with a wool insole and wool boot liner. that's what you want. pairing 2 socks is typically a big fail because you're talking about:
1) forcing a boot to fit to a volume it typically won't allow.
2) all the spandex in the socks is going to cut off circulation.
The only exception I can see to this is wearing a thin liner sock probably of a polyester for wicking sweat and an outer of wool.
Furthermore vivobarefoots while wider then your average boot aren't wide enough to allow the volume/width of multiple layers especially for your toes.
If i'm going cheap i'd just get eva boots with a liner. I like the russian ones by torvi and nordman. there's a couple polish brands that do so as well. eva is a light material (croc material, just keep away from fire/leaving out in sun during summer) that isnt affected by radiation. this means it doesn't breathe as well but the liner helps fix that and gives many good hours of use, plus you can change liners out during the day.
I'm not as much of a fan of the other alternative of muck type boots because the polyurethane tends to crack between seasons and the neoprene tends to shred easily but ymmv.
I can't even think of a leather boot i'd recommend for winter outside of the stegleger. Maybe the like very expensive boots with thinsulate but they tend to be built for one purpose and wouldn't work well for summer threatening the polyurethane outsole with hydrolysis.

>>2819513
you made the mistake of getting vivos without side stitched outsoles. be prepared to have some good shoe sealant on hand like aquaseal and don't use oil based conditioners on the leather or it will eventually delaminate the leather from the outsole.
unfortunately due to the eu having environmental laws you will find yourself eco-jewed of those boots being made with a functional adhesive.

>>2821429
>vivos without side stitch
Yeah I was aware, but really cheap on revivo and I'm not a stranger to contact cement repairs.

I ended up buying these too because of the price. Going to dye them because they are ugly af>>2818721

>Jim green
So far they feel amazing (custom ar8), probably going to get a pair of barefoot single lasted African rangers in the near future to compare. Thinking rough out buffalo since it's thicker but no inner layer

>>2821453
fair enough. seems like you know what you're doing.
if you get the african rangers resoled at some point id just switch to a vibram kletter or something similar since they are hard material outsoles instead of the soft rubber in the rangers. i'd try them if they used a harder rubber outsole but for now just prefer the veldskoen. i really don't see why the african is so different then the vellies either since the vellies are a simple design, much cheaper, and fit really well including using with different insoles.
as for buffalo if you haven't had an issue with the ar8 leather id probably just stick to the default. you may be able to request a sample. i've handled a bit of 'buffalo'. it comes in a few varieties. typically american buffalo is called bison and the other buffalo is from indian water buffalos. i like buffalo and most of what i've seen seems like it'd handle scrapes better then cowhide; however, i find a lot of buffalo stretches out a bit. i'd probably steer clear from it or use it with an inner layer as that may help the buffalo from stretching out, even though i'm typically more of a single layer leather fan.

>>2821458
your vellie idea is actually great, might make for a much lighter boot too. Thoughts on slapping a barefoot sole on a boot originally designed with a wedge? I never had faith in jim greens barefoot sole so I went tyre wedge instead, regret it now that I've been wearing proper zero drop shoes.

>>2820078
You can always stop and rest your feet if it's too hot, but a wet footwear is much difficult to deal with

Anyone have any experience with Meindl? I just got into hiking and I couldn't get Danner so I bought these second hand with barely any wear for pennies on the dollar. They seem kinda heavy but are comfortable so far. The model name is Perfekt and they have an all leather construction, triple welted (I think) with a commando vibram sole.

>>2816361
>No wide sizing
You mean no normal sizing. Jim Greens are EEE width, they're made for melanated tribesmen who've never worn shoes before in their life.

>>2821840
Meindl are great, I once had a pair of Meindl-made Bundeswehr paratrooper boots and loved them until I lost them in a flood. IIRC old man Limmer made shoes for Meindl before moving to the US, which is probably why Limmers look so much like Meindls and why Meindl manufactures the off-the-shelf Limmer boots. I've got a pair of the Meindl-made Limmer Standards and they're a tank.

>>2821840
>and I couldn't get Danner
You lucked out. Modern Danners are complete trash.

I have crispi guides for winter, crispi wyomings for technical trails, and Hoka speed goats or merrils for regular hikes.

>>2821840
I have Meindl Engadin, I love them, so confortable

>>2821962
sorry these in the pic are ortler from Meindl, ENgadin are not stiched

>>2816188
based.

Im running pic rel.

>>2822545
Yeap they seems true. This summer I'll check how it is at work. I'll go to north territories with kurums. I got this pair from our analog of eBay.

>>2822571
Hope I don't get foot fungus.

>>2821840
>Anyone have any experience with Meindl?
Sort of
Limmers are made by Meindl, albeit with different leather to their specification and they stitch 6 times on the arch as the only seam
Still they're made along side each other and will have some similarities
Break in took some time, but once they're broken in they're gold
>but are comfortable so far
They will keep getting better
>The model name is Perfekt and they have an all leather construction
Perfekt is where the single piece of leather construction starts
The seam is at the back and is covered up by that strip of leather that goes vertical at 6 o clock
>triple welted (I think)
It's called a Norwegian welt and it's double
Kind of combines a storm welt with a goodyear
The Super Perfekt are triple welted, only other boot I know of that's triple is the Hanwag Sepp 100
>with a commando vibram sole
It's a Vibram Montagna
Many sites erroneously list it as having a PU comp but I was informed by the Limmer people (who are in regular contact with Meindl for their non custom production) that it's rubber

What brand of boots would you guys recommend? I'm currently using Vasque Breeze 2.0 GTX and am happy with them, but they're getting old (had them for 11 years now).

>>2816361
Jim green is EEE by default.
I got a pair of African rangers, they are wonderful when it is hot and dry. But they are not advised to be worn if you live in a more wet environment as walking through wet grass the midsole soaks up the water.

I also have a pair of Razorbacks and they are the first work boot I got that doesn't destroy itself after a year.

>>2816041 (OP)
Recently I've been hiking with these (Redwings Blacksmiths). They're not as comfortable as my Oboz hiking shoes, but they're more solid and I prefer the high ankle to keep water and debris out over the increased cushion I get from my shoes. They also don't look gay/tryhard when I'm not on the trail.

>>2821938
How so?
>>2822984
Thank you for the informative post anon

>>2823172
>How so?
Like most products these days, they decided to cheap out on materials and construction while keeping the price sky high in order to squeeze out every last penny of profit. They're just a brand name at this point.

>>2823183
Yeah did a bit of digging on my own and found the interior is literally made from polyester mesh and fiberboard. Absolutely ridiculous charging $400 on a pair when you can find better construction on $200 boots.

I recently bought these
only downside is they are a pita to put on and take off due to high ankle support, gotta unlace them.
they are nicely water proof, i can walk in ankle deep water no issues
lots of grip, and very comfy.
not the toughest, but quite light.

TERREX FREE HIKER XPLORIC GORE-TEX PARLEY SHOES

>>2823018
i remember during fire school in 2019 some guy probably went to reddit and these red wing heritage must have been the recommendation. They fell apart before the 3 week training concluded. Guy through a fit that a bunch of thick neckbeards duped him into them.
>>2823172
All you need to know is they were bought out by a fashion company in Japan. Do they still have some good models? Sure. But if you think by buying their clunker ass rainforest boots that you'll get something akin to even jim greens you're mistaken. btw, white's was bought out by the same fashion company a decade back so go for Nicks or JK's instead if you want t burn a hole in your wallet.
>>2822986
I like more durable polyurethane boots and usually prefer single density PU since it's a lot more to wear through. I use M77 (samelin) and Sievi Soft Solid XL. If I wanted more of a hiking boot i'd prob just go with Merrel Moab Wide's. They're cheap and check off enough boxes. People recommend Lowa Renegades/Zephyr's all the time but not my interest.

>>2823210
>i remember during fire school in 2019 some guy probably went to reddit and these red wing heritage must have been the recommendation. They fell apart before the 3 week training concluded. Guy through a fit that a bunch of thick neckbeards duped him into them.
I can't speak for that guy's experience, but I'm on year two of pretty heavy wear and they're showing no signs of failure yet aside from the shitty stock laces that I had to replace after a year.

>>2823185
People use polyester fiberboard over leather cause it weighs less. It's not obsolete or obsolescent. I don't like Limmer's cause they use a full length shank and the toebox is too narrow for me.
Jim Green's definitely a better value though and I think Jim Green's going through a period where they are very motivated and open to feedback. As I said earlier, I think the Vellies are underrated cause they were being offered for $99, welted, don't weigh much, lace easily and adjustable, and easy enough to throw an insole in.

Kneel

>>2823237
This is not comfortable for middle-difficult hiking. It's for alphenism.

>>2823018
Can't imagine hiking in these. They are more of a city boot than a country boot.

>>2824246
You have things backwards. They're actually more comfy on the trail or on a farm than on concrete. The thing that makes them less comfortable than a hiking boot is the lack of a cushioned insole, which is mitigated by a softer walking surface.

>>2820219

Seconding these. They serve me well Fall through Spring in the PNW

>>2823210
They used to be really solid. I wore a pair of Iron Rangers for years as a mechanic/fabricator (actually a really good boot for that, the leather holds up better than synthetic in that environment and the soles had shockingly good traction on an oily epoxy floor) but I bought them back in maybe 2014 and I've heard they've gone downhill since then.

Meinld anon here, I wore my boots on a 1000m elevation hike and developed blisters on the inside of my feet, a bit bellow my ankles, thankfully had no pain on the descend. How do I avoid this? Do I just tighten them even more? Do I just suck it up and take the pain until they break in? Or should I have a cobbler open them up a bit?

bought these for bush whacking. redback were a staple for labourers of my fathers generation. he swore by them.

anyway, here's their first hiking boot. figured they were worth a shot.

>>2823191
I used to have picrel and they were really comfy. I think Adidas Terrex is good, but I would only buy them in a sale since they're overpriced for what they are.

>>2824779
You need boots that fit.
>open them up a bit
They're already too wide.

>>2825062
>too wide
Would wearing two socks or a sock liner mitigate this?

>>2825088
Maybe. Getting boots that fit would mitigate it better.

>buy new boots
>it's got no arch support
>didn't think much of it
>go do 30 mi on them over 3 days
>arch of my feet are still in pain weeks later
mistakes were made, great boots though besides that.

>>2824932
i only buy them on sale and i have 8% off any gift cards i buy from work.

>>2823237
>>2823763
Yeah, you don't wear those to hike in. There's a reason approach shoes exist.

My work has me walk around 15km everyday, and I've spent the last 3 months walking in Jim Green barefoot Shoelies.

They've been great so far, but I can't say that my working grounds are really difficult terrain, so I wanted to know you guys' opinions on the Barefoot african trooper before making a purchase.

>>2825366
Use comfortable sneakers and hiking socks, to preserverve from giant calluses.

>>2825366
that outsole will wear out within a year. i already said it earlier in the bread if you weren't a lazy nigger and read previous posts.

>>2824927
The upper on these is almost perfect, but the tread underneath is too narrow and I can shred it under rock in 15 minutes of climbing rocks.

>>2817057
Maybe it's just I got a bad batch but I bought moabs a few years back and got them replaced on warrenty twice before switching out to Lowa. One moab broke one of the lacing loops, one had the sole almost immediately peel away, worrying they all broke quickly but in different ways.

>>2825452
No. Do my job for me, nigger.

>>2819417
have you tried them out? how do you like them?
I've been looking for a pair of gtx lows with a bit of cushion to them and have been having an absolute nightmare of a time
I liked the totally unrelated Lowa boots I tried on at a store

>>2819742
Extremely based answer

>>2823210
I really like my Alfa M77, they really did a proper good job with that boot.
Easy to adjust the fit, tall enough to do some light wading, fairly light, alright sole, easy to get resoled, easy to care for, between 50%-30% the price of modern leather shell boots...
Not a big fan of the rings and speed hooks, but I can live with it for the price. Exceptionally good at being good enough.
I understand the new Norwegian military boot is set to be introduced in late 2026, but apart from being brown in colour and having a better outsole it looks like they're still sticking with a leather boot, rather than a membrane boot. I'm eager to see how it compares.
If I didn't already have a pair of M77, I might have considered the Swedish Marschkänga 24, which ticks a lot of boxes for me.

>>2816322
this goober got snow chains on his booties LMAO

salewa

>>2825805
Salewa has been degrading in quality for the last 15 years.

>>2819575
Omg I have that exact same pair right down to the color. Did we just become friends?

>>2816041 (OP)
I've been hiking, camping, and Hemmingwaying the fuck out my entire life in tennis shoes. Unless you're hiking in snow or mud you don't need boots. A comfortable pair of tennies, new enough to have a rigid sole is plenty for 99% of the trail hiking out there. If you're talking about hunting in late October, then think about getting yourself some flat-sole boots.

>>2825800
I had been laughing it off as something only old people need so they don't break their hips and can't get up, but I like it.
The climate here doesn't bring much snow, but plenty of polished ice on the roads and sidewalks.
I usually took one or two big tumbles a year, and a bunch of close calls where I break out into spontaneous contortions to stay upright.
Have to walk the dog thrice a day no matter the conditions and weather, so I'll stay looking silly and stay upright.

>>2816238
Diemme

Are these decent boots for the price? I know they are a ripoff at full price, but with a huge discount...

>>2825817
I got alp trainers from when they used kevlar, not it's cheap rubber. Sad!

Thoughts on this? I'm looking to invest in something durable, suitable for multi-day trips and summit attempts in Colombia.

>>2827387
Zamberlans some of the best anon. Any company trying to use a single leather wrap without adding stitching holes in their design is trying to make a good product.
My only issue with Zamberlan is a slightly narrow toe box so make sure they fit you.

>>2827387
Boots should not be viewed as investments unless they can be resoled, which basically is only traditionally made boots. Most modern hiking footwear are consumable goods with a life span of a few years if used regularly.
Those also have a goretex lining which is kind of crap imo.
You can of course increase their life span if you use them more sparingly.

>>2827886
Please go back to /r/goodyearwelt faggot.
Every year more loggers and wildland firefighters quit using your fashion boot pipe dream for direct attached because of shock absorption = less long term injuries and less weight.
Furthermore places like Dave Paige resoles direct attach boots all day

>>2827920
Good for them, doesn't refute my point. Boots used for hard wear shouldn't be considered an "investment" if that's a lot of money for you. I don't advocate for traditionally made boots for serious hiking or hard work. Buy whatever is cheap and fit your feet.

Got some $35 levi boots that felt good in the store but after getting home I feel stupid cause I know they aren't real leather so these might not even last a year before I go back to my old leather boots with blown out soles.

>>2816294
>is this cheap knock off of what I actually want going to be just as good? I don't care if it's actually good I just want it to look the same

you need to be 18 or older to post here

>>2816161
Timberlands of course

>>2816332
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>>2818634
Should use waterproof socks

>>2828433
Sounds like a horrible idea since they wouldn't be able to breathe and you'd sweat like crazy. Wool socks are ideal for wet conditions.

>>2828443
You get fucking trench foot walking with wet feet.
You powder your feet in the morning and when you make camp you take your socks off to let them breathe.

>>2828447
You sound like a larper. Nobody does that shit and nobody gets trench foot unless they're retarded.

I got some entry level Salomon trecking shoes on black friday sale, no foot support, slippery sole on wet ground. The worst shoe I've ever bought.