I found a balloon berry patch, aka the strawberry-raspberry

>>2817467 (OP)
i found a white mullberry tree the other day, sadly its about five feet off my property

>>2817467 (OP)
here are some ground plums, i eat a few every day

>>2817533
I won't tell on you for taking them

This same painted trillium comes up every year right on the edge of the woods. I wish it would spread to make more but for 5+ years it has just been this one.

>>2817586
Hmm. I wonder if you could help her? What might the problem be?

>>2817533
Are mulberries not everywhere in your area? They were a pioneer fruit in mine, a lot like wild apples. The people who came here in the past would throw down a bunch of trees because they grew fast and gave fruit, so they're everywhere, even on city roads.

>>2817590
For me growing up this was nut trees but I never got to collect them because the one time that I tried some boomer told me that it was stealing even though it was on public property. Being on public property meant it belonged to the city, even though they never harvested anything from it, and I planned to actually eat it.

>>2817587
Probably lacking a nearby trillium to pollinate with. I suppose I could order some seeds, they take years to mature when grown from seed.

>>2817467 (OP)
you have beautiful hands

>>2817610
Yeah... I just ignore this kind of stuff and harvest whatever I want. The general rule I follow is that if it's growing over a sidewalk it belongs to the public, if it's on the roadside it belongs to the public, and if it's on a nature trail it belongs to the public.

I'm actually gonna start gorilla gardening this year at the local abandoned railroad tracks, they can't stop me. I've also taken some prime crabapples out of people's front yards without asking because it was close enough to the sidewalk. I frequently take the ornamental kousa dogwood berries I find around.

>>2817616
If birds can shit out seeds wherever they want, then so can I.

>>2817615
Homo

>>2817616
>taken prime crabapples
I once did this with a tangerine tree that was completely leaning over the sidewalk and obstructing me a bit. That lady came out of her house and yelled at me so much and said she hoped they poisoned me. I was like 15

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>>2817616
lmao the eternal boomers

Pretty sure it was known back in the day that any fruit that was within reach of the street/sidewalk was fair game to passerby and in fact was meant for that (Why the fuck did you plant an apple tree in the front yard near the road?)

>>2817681
I can't be mad at them though, at least their front yard is filled with free fruit I can take instead of dog shit.
>>2817702
Many city people are completely delusional and will buy a fruit tree, but will not know that the fruit tree they bought at the fruit tree store has fruit you can eat. They'll buy something, put it in their front yard on their house and grow it there for 50 years, and not know the first thing about it.

>>2817707
I was staying with my extended family for a bit and I noticed this poor sad dying baby lemon, I think her main problem is that she just didn't get full Sun. The way that their yard was full Sun entirely depended on what time of year it was and she should not have been planted straight in the ground right away. She should have been It's kept in a pot that was a good size that they could move and carry and had her chase the Sun during the first year, clip any flowers, the normal things that you would do to ensure that a young tree grows up strong and healthy and that didn't happen.
She hadn't survived the winter because she also ended up with a bad mite infestation. Relative sent me a picture earlier this spring of a little twig coming up and I said, remember how I warned you that any new growth that comes from under the soil is not your Meyer Lemon, well, whatever that is, it's not your Meyer Lemon, it's the root stock, so you're running a real gamble on whether you're going to get acceptable lemons that just don't taste exactly like you originally wanted, or you will get something completely different that might not even be a lemon. It might still be nice for decoration, so keep it if you really want to... But in the future your citrus need citrus care.

>>2817803
Thank you gangstalker, but I think you replied to the comment on the wrong thread.

>>2817533
Are you sure it's white and not just unripe? All mulberries are white before they're ripe. Many are semi sterile and only grow immature fruit before dropping it all on the ground to become a nasty sticky mess.

found some kind of vesper spring parsley

>>2817953
another one, very neat looking plant. supposedly all of it's edible but i've never tried any of it.

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>>2817953
also found this budding prickly pear.

>>2817955
and some boring plain-old goosefoot that somethings been nibbling on.

it's pretty big for how early it is in the season though. last frost was only a few weeks ago.

>>2817807
Nope I meant his, people buy trees they don't know how to care for

>>2817955
Watch her closely to harvest fruit

I found this once. It haunts my dreams to this day

>>2818010
Scary looking fungus...

>>2817467 (OP)
redpill me on how to tame these wild grapes. they make alotbof little one, should i prune most of them off?

>>2818121
forgot pic

>>2818121
First identify the speecies, it might only make small grapes. Is it in your yard or just wild in nature? If its on your property then start building it a support, prune extra grapes and let it focus on fewer to give the better quality. If its just a park or in a clearing/woods don't mess with it and leave grapes for the wildlife when you forage them

>>2818168
its on my land i have several giant vines of them that go way up into trees. locals call them possum grapes but the phone app says summer grapes. they have seeds but taste like grapes. a few of the bunches had grapes about the size of a marble but most were the size of peas.

Found a bunch of this wild sasparilla growing around the base of trees in my yard. I never noticed it before but it was probably there and I just never noticed.

>>2818241
Hmm wiki says
> This plant is so common in certain ecologies that it is an indicator species for these Eastern forests of North America: northern hardwood forest, beech–maple forest, and oak–hickory forest.
I guess mine would be northern hardwood although it's mostly dominated by mature hemlock which is a softwood. There's also red maple, oak, and quite a bit of beech. Some birch and aspen as well but mostly it dies rather than grows, just a few big paper birches are at canopy height.

>>2817533
I have one on my yard and it doesn’t fruit. What gives?

>>2818374
Most mulberries used in landscaping are decorative, non fruiting. Fruiting mulberries make a huge mess when the fruit drops.

>>2818374
Mulberry trees can be dioecious(male or female) or monoecious(has both male and female parts).

Male dioecious trees only produce pollen. female dioecious only produce flowers unless pollinated. So you won't get fruit unless you have at least one male and one female tree.

Monoecious trees have both pollen and flowers, but they don't self pollinate, or of they do, they produce fruit that doesn't ripen and just falls to the ground. So you still need at least two trees to get fruit from them.

>>2818503
I found it behind my shed. I don’t think the last owners planted it there.
>>2818509
This could be it. Maybe it’s worth planting another one in a pot? But if it was wild from nature I would expect there to be more nearby…

>>2818538
Birds poop where they poop, if there's not a bunch around, that's your most likely source. Watch it to see if it drops pollen nodules, flowers and berry bunches or both. It's easier to look at pictures of each then to describe them. Depending on what you observe, that will tell you what you want to look for in a second tree.

Funneling spider in the raspberries

>>2817616
Don't collect from roadsides. The soil is always contaminated and if you get caught it's a felony.

>>2819704
Why a felony

>>2819719
I think it has to do with the Lacey act, but roadsides are considered government land and it's illegal to harvest anything from government land.

>>2819867
This is 100% true. It's illegal to harvest anything from Government Land in the US. Leave all the berries on the bushes so an agent of The Government or licensed third party contractor can remove them for your protection. Could you please share the location of this berry patch so that I can report it to the authorities and prevent others from accidentally committing a felony?

>>2817533
>>2817914
And most mulberries, even of the species Morus alba, the white mulberry, have a dark red/purple/black fruit when ripe. Other characteristics of the tree, like the leaves, are a better indicator of species, assuming anon even meant Morus alba when he said white mulberry in the first place. M. alba, which is introduced to the US from East Asia, tends to have smaller leaves (maybe hand-sized at max, and most smaller than that) that are smoother and shiny, while M. rubra is native to the Eastern US and has leaves that are much larger (I've seen some that had to be bigger than my head) not shiny, and covered in fine hair/bristles. Red mulberry fruit is also far superior to the white mulberry, which can be exceptionally bland depending on the individual.

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>>2818538
Mulberries are wind-pollinated, so if there are any males nearby the female trees ought to receive pollen.

>>2819937
Some white mulberries I picked a couple of weeks back, including some that were actually white-fruited. They also seem to start to ripen maybe a week earlier than the red mulberries, at least around here in central NC.

Some fruit from a tree nearby were also white-fruited, but tasted like lightly sweetened water with a hint of grass clippings.

>>2819941
And red mulberries, for comparison. Assuming the trees get enough sun, I find the fruit is a bit larger than the white mulberry fruit too. Maybe slightly less shiny as well, and the stems tend to be longer and tougher.

>>2819942
And here's a rare mayapple fruit. Took this picture maybe 2 weeks ago, went back today to check and it's still hanging in there. Hopefully I'll get to pick and eat it, I've only had them once before. The plants hardly put on any fruit at all, and they often seem to drop prematurely due to disease or environmental conditions, or animals get to them first.

>>2819943
And lastly (for now) some black/blue raspberries I picked today from a little patch nearby. I'm assuming this is Rubus occidentalis, the species native to the Eastern US, but it's possible it could be one of the other two species of black raspberry, introduced to the area. Either way, very good, rich, sweet flavor. It does remind me a bit of artificial blue raspberry flavor, which I guess means some food chemist did a decent job manufacturing that artificial flavoring.

>>2819867
I h8 feds

>>2819941
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>>2819945
Very very nice... youre a lucky man

>>2819958
Well thank you. There's definitely a good number of spots I've found over the years with good wild edibles, but it's not all fairy tale garden of eden for me. A couple of the red mulberry trees I pick from have been trimmed by city maintenance, which makes getting the fruit a bit harder, and one tree (plus a decent swath of muscadine grape vines) got cut down as part of a pedestrian bridge construction project.

I'd say the luckiest I've been is finding a good stretch of stream that has pawpaws growing along it. If it's a good year, I can come out with quite a harvest. Pic is from 2021, and was maybe half the total haul.

>>2819962
So jealous right now.... I've always wanted to try pawpaw ever since I first learned about them. Unfortunately, I live on the wrong coast for them and they don't travel well, from what I've read.

>>2819964
If you've had other Annonaceae fruit before, like cherimoya, atemoya, sweetsop, soursop, custard apple, sugar apple, etc. I believe there are some similarities in flavor. Of course the only other one I've had was a cherimoya, and probably not a very good one at that given that it came from a standard supermarket, so I'm maybe not the best person to speak to their similarities.

They are definitely a fragile fruit. You can see how badly some of them got mushed in that photo just from being stacked on top of each other in my backpack as I was walking around in the woods, and they don't keep more than a week or so at room temperature, maybe another week on top of that in the fridge. As delicious as they are, there's a reason they're not in every supermarket. That said, I've heard there are a handful of growers out there who will ship fruit out, probably getting more common as the years go by. You'd be paying premium prices, of course, but I'm assuming they'd take the care to get it to you in good shape, plus the cultivated varieties are supposedly even bigger and taste better. Think I heard somewhere that they could get to be a pound or more. I really need to try ordering some myself, because the wild ones are already pretty good.

>>2819967
I have had cherimoya. Also from a regular supermarket. They're really good when they're good, but the store keeps them up well after that. I've also bought mangosteens from the same supermarket, they're always rotten. And f'ing expensive. They've stopped trying to get them in. They just started getting whole jackfruits in. I'm a bit intimidated by them though, I'd hate to waste that much money on a bad one.


Still a month or more before much of the fruit around here starts to ripen. and another month after that up in the mountains. Everything is still in full flower right now in Northern California.

>>2819971
Sounds like you've still got a full season ahead of you, then. You ever find any strawberry trees?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbutus_unedo

I'm not super familiar with west-coast flora, but I believe that one is naturalized over there, and as far as I can tell, would provide a lot of fruit.

>>2819973
Yes, there's one in my parent's backyard. I've never tried them though. My dad didn't seem impressed with them. And they don't harvest them, just let the birds have them.

>>2819976
Could be a variety that was selected to look good, not have good tasting fruit. It is eaten or cooked with in other parts of the world, from what I've read.

>>2817467 (OP)
Feminine hands. Work on that.

>>2817611
I've heard this advice about fruit trees, but honestly it applies to anything that takes a long time to mature. The best time to plant is seven years ago, and the second best time is today.

>>2820012
What if... I'm a woman?

>>2819962
I've never seen or had pawpaw ever, I want it so bad

>>2820039
Rule 30

>>2819977
I'm pretty sure it was there when they bought the house. So I have no idea. I'll give it a try when it fruits this year.

>>2820048
How would one prove such a thing without posting genitals?

>>2820050
You can't. And even rule 31 is obsolete because of HRT.

>>2820051
So... I guess you believe me or you think about my alleged cock like a fag

>>2820052
No one it thinking about your micro penis, calm down faggot

>>2820053
Yet your fantasizing about the size of my alleged cock

>>2819964
There's a yearly pawpaw festival in Ohio. Fresh pawpaw were available when I visited several years ago. If you need other justification to visit Ohio, the Air Force museum is stellar and Hocking Hills was nice. Plus you can tell strangers on the Internet you traveled halfway across the country to taste a fruit.

>>2817533
love these things, they attract tons of cool birds

I know you can make crabapple jam, but is it any good. I grew up surrounded by them but never did anything with them based on how they taste raw. How good are they when processed? What do you do with dogwood?

No pictures currently, that I stumbled upon a small grove of persimmon trees out in Northwest Texas. It's technically on my land, but I didn't plant them or anything.

>>2820522
Do you like persimmon? It would actually suck for me so much if I discovered a grove of persimmon trees on my property, because I don't like persimmons, so I'd be stuck with a bunch of valuable trees that are producing free food that I don't like to eat.

>>2820522
What are wild persimmons like? The two common commercially-available varieties are pretty different.

>>2820522
If you have a grove, they were probably intentionally planted. Which is a good thing, it means they'll probably make good fruit. Fingers crossed!!


>>2820720
If it's from seed, it's random what you're going to get. You'll get around half the genetics from the mother tree and the other half from the pollen source. But if you weren't the one that picked it from the fruit and planted it, you don't even know what the fruit it came from was like. This is why most seed stock is only used as root stock and has a proven tree's branch grafted in.

Saw a bunch of wild grapes budding by a sidewalk. Such a shame its not on my property...

>>2820522
If the fruit are black when ripe, you probably actually have Diospyros texana, which would be a rare treat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOVABtwmbmo

>>2820720
In the US, most wild persimmon trees (not counting any that might have escaped cultivation) are actually going to be a different species from the fruit you find in the store. Diospyros virginiana is the native persimmon species (not counting D. texana in only the southern half of Texas), while the fruit you find in the store will be from cultivars of D. kaki.

D. virginiana has fruit that are around the size of a large cherry tomato. They can be quite sweet (they are sometimes called sugar plums), incredibly soft when ripe, and I've occasionally found a fruit or two that almost had some hints of spices in the flavor. Of course, they're also fairly seedy, and if you get them when they are even the tiniest bit unripe, they are very, very astringent. Bite into a fully unripe american persimmon and you'll feel like you have chalk powder stuck to every surface in your mouth for hours and hours.

>>2820798
If it's on public property, go for it. If it's on private property, you could always ask the land owner. Worst case scenario, they look at you funny and tell you to stay off their property. Best case scenario, you get the grapes.

>>2820511
Never had crabapple jam myself, despite my dad planting a tree when I was younger, but if you put enough sugar I imagine it would eventually taste good. My dad did talk about soaking them in sugar syrup and spices, not sure he ever got around to it, though.

Dogwood, depends on the species. My dad always talked about how Cornus florida had been traditionally used as a medicinal fruit, soaked in a clear liquor to turn it reddish-brown and make a medicinal drink of sorts. Not sure how much value it actually has, and the fruit is bitter on its own, as I recall. The best thing to do with it is probably enjoy the showy flowers it puts off in the spring. If you have Cornus kousa, which should be very obvious by the shape of the fruit, then you can eat them fresh. A bit gritty, like a pear, but has a pleasant flavor, almost like guava or melon. If you have Cornus mas, which I think you're unlikely to find unless you're in Europe, then you have a cherry-like fruit. Other dogwood species, not really sure.

last year i cut down about a half a acre of the oak and hickory trees on my land have been checking what started growing. so far i have found over 10 persimmons, 7 mullberry, 3 hackberry, several wild black cherry, black raspberry, blackberry, and a mexican plum tree. i found these wild blueberries today in another part of my land.

>>2820864
Will do that for the grapes. That's actually a decent idea.
The persimmon thing you mention is interesting. I only ever had a persimmon from someone who said that they were American persimmons that grew in his yard, and I swear it was like biting into an apple. It was just firm and almost starchy, like a banana that's unripe. But I haven't seen any in the store to try it again ripe, I don't know if they were really american persimmons though, because they were orange.

>>2820923
How did you get all the new plants?

>>2820994
they are all native here and just came up once the ground got sunlight

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>>2820864
They're definitely persimmon. They look just like the commercial variety except they're about 1/5 the size. If they are not ripe they are very very bitter and astringent and you don't want to try to eat them. Basically they have to be falling off the tree to be ready. I'm glad they're there because the deer on our land love them so it's a good draw to bring in some bucks. I've also seen a Chinese plum tree or two, and we have a couple of native pecan trees but they don't produce that well.

>>2821032
last winter i found a persimmon tree with some persimmon on it that didnt fall. they were basically dehydrated and tasted like a fruit roll up. do you have any tricks for separating the seeds? i want to make some jam

>>2821034
I'm sure there are ways to do it, but I basically leave the persimmons to the deer.

Wood sorrel is an common trail amuse-bouche. Tastes like tart green apple.

The stalks of young arrowleaf balsamroot flowers can be peeled and eaten raw. They have a nice juicy crunchy texture, like cucumber.

>>2820997
I will keep this in mind...

>>2821113
Isn't correlation an aphrodisiac?

>>2821151
Comparing things makes me quite horny, thank you for asking.

>>2821209
Sorry I've been ill. I meant sorrel

>>2821549
Oh. I haven't heard that, but I also don't believe that aphrodisiacs are real. If sorrel gets you going you might have a salad fetish, which sounds like a hoot.

>>2821575
Red sorrel is supposed to be strongest, served as hot tea... someone should be brave and try it. Why don't you believe in horny plants?

>>2819943
I have mayapple patches and i havent seen a fruit in 2 years.

>>2821575
>I also don't believe that aphrodisiacs are real
I'm sceptical as well, but couples have a higher likelihood of conceiving a child after visiting seafood restaurants. So I wouldn't discount the possibility.

>>2817467 (OP)
awww thats so cool op

>>2817467 (OP)
Could be R. illecebrosus, could b rubus probus, or Rubus florulentus, the rubus genus has like 200 species, amazing, isn´t it ?

>>2821905
The fact that I'm in semi rural Japan makes it much more likely to be illecebrosus, not much literature though as they don't like raspberries very much here

>>2820865
Young Cornus kousa fruit, as an example. There are a few trees planted at my workplace, as a landscaping ornamental. Still good fruit, despite that not being the reason they were planted.

>>2819943
Got it! A small lesion on it, but I'm hoping it will still be good to eat. The smell is certainly nice, reminds me of ground cherry/husk tomato (thought it's been a long time since I last had one of those), with maybe an extra bit of lemon and resin.

>>2821890
They really are hard to come by, despite the plants being so prevalent. There are probably several hundred stems that come up along the creek near me each year, maybe 30 of those have the double-leaf required for the stem to bear a flower, maybe half the flowers set fruit, and I'm lucky to find one or two fruit that make it to ripeness without getting destroyed by weather/disease or animals eating them before I can.

>>2825338
Here's where it was on the ground when I went to check. I think that light-colored piece of straw in the bottom left is the stem that had borne the fruit. Who knows when exactly it fell, but it may very well have been gone if I had checked a day later.

Oh, and this probably belongs here as well, but I put it in the mushroom thread first.
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