I am a /K/tard who looking for what types of knifes I should get to hike/hunt in pic releated.

The trees here are soft.
The forest is very dense.
The only animals I'd have to worry about are black bears, wolfs, lynxes and moose.
It is very likely that I'd need to clear up trails.
I won't have access to an ATV or side by side so I want to stay on the lighter side.

I am considering getting 2 knifes so I can have each be more specialized.
A machete/kukri and a "normal sized" knife is what I have in mind.

Are kukri a meme?

>>2826092 (OP)
Not a meme, no. Traditionally they even come with a smaller knife for that reason.

>>2826093
Expected as much

>>2826092 (OP)
>A machete
I'm in the northwest and I find machetes to be useless and totally outclassed by a hachet. They even want to make machetes a prohibited weapon here because certain kinds of retards use them to attack people in vancouver which is a whole different brand of retarded but for as far as my buchwhacking adventures are concerned I don't have a use for a machete. What exact purpose do you want your bushblade to fulfill?
t. own half a dozen machetes because I kept trying to find a use for them now they all collect rust

>>2826092 (OP)
Morakniv. I own a kukri (Himalayan Import) but I've never gone out with it.

>>2826092 (OP)
First off, forget about "normal sized" knives. Those are meant to be all-purpose, if you're carrying two anyways, make the smaller one tiny. ~7cm / 3" is much more suited for carving, skinning and other fine work than a normal 12cm / 5" knife. The blade style depends on what you want to do with it. Drop-point is the most versatile, rounded point is best for skinning, goat's foot easiest to sharpen.

For the long knife, kukris suck. They're pure weapons, meant to stab easily (the curve alignes the point with your forearm, same as on those kabar "gun"-knives) and the center of gravity is way forward, to allow heavy strikes at the cost of endurance. A regular machete like those from tramontina is far superior, though mostly suited for branches and trees. If you're dealing with vines often, you'll want a hooked blade (common in Switzerland under the name of "Gertel", and Japan as "Yoko"). If the machete should double as a hunting sword (for killing wounded animals held by dogs, or on surfaces where there's risk of ricochets), you'll want something with a double edged point, but single edged the rest of the way to minimize risk of injury. Only thing that comes to mind here is cold steels bowie machete, but with those (or CS in general), be ready to regrind the edge. Their steel and tempering is alright, but finish quality is the worst I've ever seen, even compared to 1€ chinese knives. There used to be traditional hunting machetes ("Waidblatt", in German), but nobody makes good ones anymore afaik.

Personally, I carry a mora (10cm blade, and too long half the time - got a 6cm mora recently, but haven't used it much) and a Swiss hooked machete. Also have a CS gladius machete, but ever since I accidentally cut myself on the back edge while trying to wrench it free after it got stuck, I avoid using that.

>>2826574
A machete is kind of overkill, why not just bring a hatchet? Husqvarna makes some great hatchets. I go out with a Morakniv companion, a Husqvarna hatchet, a Bahco 9" Laplander Folding Saw, and a Leatherman Wave. I've found uses for all of them.

>>2826092 (OP)
machete + hunting knife, an axe and hatchet if you’re gonna camp.
t. timmins anon

>>2826646
>A machete is kind of overkill, why not just bring a hatchet?
Because hatchets are pointless for anything other than splitting firewood. I'm mostly cutting blackberry vines encroaching on my fences and beehives (hence the hooked blade).
OP wants to clear trails, which normally means cutting lots of thin branches and trees, between thumb and wrist size. With a machete, that's one strike, cutting through cleanly. With a hatchet or even an axe, at the bare minimum, it's one strike plus tearing themoff, usually more like 2-3 strikes.
Also, hitting a thin branch with a short hatchet edge is a pain.

>>2826662
I haven't noticed a difference between machetes and hatchets except that hatchets are lighter. Have I been using them wrong?

If OP is clearing trails he'll want a hatchet and saw definitely. I know the trails out here in Idaho sometimes have large trees that have fallen across them. A 9" saw works very well in those situations.

Machete's were designed for thick jungle which is very different from the forest trails he'll be hiking in.

Machetes and kukri are both better for larping than actual work unless you pay up for a good premium brand. You probably won't be needing a hatchet either just for clearing trails. I would recommend trying one of these Fiskar's brush axes; once sharpened they're really good for chopping small plants, vines and saplings. A bonus is that it actually looks like an outdoor/gardening tool so you're less likely to be mistaken for a crazy nigger carrying it around.

>>2826092 (OP)
Get a BK9 instead of a machete.

Over the last decade, I've hiked and backpacked hundreds of miles in Western Montana and Northern Idaho. I've spent probably over a year sleeping outdoors.

All I carry is a 2 inch pocket knife and sometimes a foldable saw if I'm going to make a Fire. Never for a moment have I wished I had more. Guys carrying big stupid Bowie knives or kukris or machetes or whatever are role playing.

>>2826671
>I haven't noticed a difference between machetes and hatchets except that hatchets are lighter. Have I been using them wrong?
Well, if you can cut blackberry vines as well with a hatchet as with a machete, you're either an absolute genius with a hatchet, or absolutely retarded with a machete.
With branches and thin trees, a hatchet will at least work, but a machete handles easier. You don#t need to aim as precisely, since the blade is longer, and it's way easier to cut through on first strike.
>sometimes have large trees that have fallen across them
That calls for a saw (like you said, except I'd go with something larger - chainsaw or silky katanaboy 500), or an axe. Cutting through thick trees with a hatechet is a pain.

>Machete's were designed for thick jungle which is very different from the forest trails
That's simply not true. Modern machetes are based on hunting "knives" of the medieval age, which were designed for clearing trails in the temperate forests of europe. The modern German waidblatt and the English Smatchet are carryovers from those, even if they're a bit shorter now than they used to be centuries ago.
The only reason machetes are so seldomly used nowadays is that most people prefer chainsaws. But if you have to clear brush near towns on the weekend (which I regularly have to do), where a chainsaw will get you noise omplaints, a machete will still work just fine. at least as long as there's not too many vines, in that case, a sharpened hook (swiss "Gertel", for example) is superior.

>>2826733
Those suck, just like just about everything from fiskars. The hook doesn't bend around far enough (90° opening should be the minimum, 80° is what I use), the handle is too long and the back end will hit your wrist all the time, and it's missing the classic belt hook on the pommel, or any other way to carry it comfortably. The classic style with leather grip and belt hook handles much nicer.

>>2826747
Maybe you should try go off trail.

>>2826092 (OP)
Most of my time in the woods in Wisconsin is spent off trail. I live in the woods. I've never hiked off trail in Ontario. That said, my go-to if I was going on such a trip would be a medium-large knife in the 6-7 inch blade range, a smaller knife in the 4 to 5 inch blade range, and a good boy's axe.

My Terava Jääkäripuukko 140 is perfect in my opinion for softwood northern forests. It's big enough to chop occasional annoying stuff out of the way when I'm off trail, but small enough to carry and use for many tasks. I use it all the time. Any good knife in that size, from an ESEE-6HM to a Reiff F6 Lueku would work.

Anything from a Mora to an SRK-C in 3V to countless other knives would for a smaller knife. I like my smaller knife on the larger end because of how I use knives. You may want something smaller. The key is to know how you use a knife.

A boy's axe is a compromise. Hatchets suck at axe tasks, but axes are big and heavy. A boy's axe or small forest axe bridges the gap. I personally prefer one over any hatchet. If you're using it like a machete, moving through endless dense northern forest, a hatchet or kukri may be more useful just for that. Most machetes will be useless in thick dead spruce type stuff, but may be nice in small green spruce.

>It is very likely that I'd need to clear up trails.
You're not going to do this well with just a knife or even a small axe. If you meant that you're just cutting stuff out of the way as needed while hiking off trail, fine. But if you're actually clearing trails you'll need saws and full size axes at the very least.

If I could only take one knife on such a trip I'd be very comfortable with just a Jääkäripuukko 140. But, I know that knife very well. This may be a good knife learning experience for you. Don't forget to bring a decent sharpener.

>>2826784
I want to add one thing people often overlook: gloves. Leather gloves are basically necessary if you're moving a lot of thorny stuff out of the way. They make navigating off trail so, so much easier. Cut-resistant gloves offer a little less thorn protection, but protect you from slips with your knife. I always have a pair of level 5 cut resistant gloves on me in the field. If I were taking a trip, I'd bring 3 pairs. They're light. Sunglasses/safety glasses are lifesavers, too, when you're really in the thick stuff and have branches swinging and poking at your eyes. Glasses have saved my eye in the bush a dozen times over the years. Just some tips.

>>2826651
Not planing on camping, but I dad does. He using a hatchet and folding saw.

>>2826733
You're making a compeling argument. But what if I want to look like a crazy nigger?

>>2826784
Already thought about it, I got a pair

>>2826769
I do technical mountaineering. If you know anything about climbing or scrambling, you'll know that 98% of it is off-trail. You'll also know that climbers don't haul giant fruity knives up the summit.

>>2826870
Oh, so you're gay. Well, thanks for telling us I guess?

>>2826895
>climbing and mountaineering gay
how to say you're fat /out/ without saying you're fat /out/

>>2827053
Not trying to impress the bros, bro.

>>2827053
nta but if your first response to being called gay is to think about the shape of a man's body...idk man