Is "off-grid" living an illusion? How would you do it?

>>2827569 (OP)
I'd probably start by building a house that didn't require a connection to municipal water/power/sewerage.

>Is "off-grid" living an illusion?
What does that even fucking mean?

if you are observed slowly gathering enough nuts to hibernate everyone becomes convinced you know how to fucking hibernate AND gather nuts

I assume

or literally the other way around

literally does not matter how you attack the ends as long as no one else is forcing you to burn both ends whilst you are placing your.. on hold.


so


yeah

once you are all the way down to stubbies its expect only another nub of over trained primitive but fitted equipment can kill you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6wjVD-OGEA

>mfw finding out building a 15 foot fence is illegal due to county ordinances even outside of an hoa

land of the free guys

>>2827569 (OP)
>waco
>off-grid
Waco was not off-grid by any means.
Waco was a cult that raped children and women
Waco got what it deserved and the parents that refused to let their children leave should have been hung

Also off-griding is the gayest larp. Get mental help, for real. Someone is willing to talk to you.

>>2827618
>mfw finding out laying down barbed wire and putting mines and traps around the perimeter of my land is illegal federally even outside of an hoa

land of the free guys

>>2827629
This should also be completely legal.

>>2827628
>Waco was a cult that raped children and women
You got any evidence for that?

And even if it's true, burning children alive because their parents abused them seems like a failure on the part of the government.

>>2827657
It was all about them not paying taxes, simple as. God asks for a 10% tip, the government asks for more than God

>>2827569 (OP)
>water from the well
>waste water into a cleaning pond
>electricity from solar, water, or wind
>heat from electricity, wood, or sun
That's it. Off-grid is easy.
>>2827629
>barbed wire is illegal
Seriously? I knew you burgers were cucked, but didn't think it was that bad. Even in Germanistan, I only had to put another fence in font of the barbed wire, so people can't run into it on accident.

It's quite common in my area because most house already run on well and septic, oil for heat, so all you have to do is get solar.

>>2827628
Glowie

>>2827657
The cult started the fire

Off grid won't happen for another 10 years until robots can do all the work

>>2827693
Barbed wire depends on local zoning laws as does the fence

It is and it's not. It absolutely works in a vacuum, obviously since we did it for thousands of years. If you have a piece of land with water and trees, you won't even necessarily need to bring your own building materials in. The problem is that most people don't do it, which means someone (namely, city or county officials) will probably try to make it a problem and shut you down if you're caught.
>muh property value!!1!
>muh ordinances!!1!!2
Naturally this is less of an issue out in the boonies, but depending on your state/region you may have eusocial bug people bothering you.

>>2827618
You’re a dum-dum. Simple as. I hope you paid to put up the fence and then paid to take it down. Stupidity should have a cost beyond annoying other people.

>>2827618
It isn't

Seems pointless unless you just really want to live somewhere remote. You’re not really self sufficient unless you can grow or raise all of your own food, and even then, there are some things like coffee that you can’t produce yourself and would have to either continue buying or go without.

>>2827628
There was no evidence whatsoever that any of that happened. In fact they couldn't find any crimes committed whatsoever.
>>2827713
No they didn't the feds used flammables when dispersing the cs gas.

>>2827695
You can probably run electric off that oil too.

>>2828782
Oy vey, anon-yim! You're not spreading lies, are you?

>>2827569 (OP)
Most people don't go fully wild, because it is challenging. I am wanting to, but I'm taking it slow, learning what I can.
The key is health and fitness, making sure you have a high amount of calories, and being strong enough to endure anything that passes you by.
I think you could do something like ForestAnon initially, buy food from stores and make a bunch of staches, then slowly learn preserving and hunting and foraging, until you have a bunch of staches of natural food. It might be better to travel between locations so you don't exhaust local food supply, keeps you fresh mentally, and you can always stop into buy food when you fuck up.
My plan is I'm saving up 20000 dollars, then I'm going to hike the American Trail systems, and try my best to forage and hunt and fish for most of my food. The cash will give me a safety net, and with enough education and perseverance I might eventually develop something sustainable.