Wanna ask anons about experience and opinions of dealing with a lack of a water source on a long hike.
How can I deal with this?
Carrying in is a massive weight burden, but relying upon potentially asking farmland or houses along the route for water is also not a guarantee.

I had a happy mistake happen to me this weekend where I went back to my home town and decided to go to a place where I used to camp in my youth, only to find that they have revamped the entire woodlands and added all these rambling trails around. Some over 100 miles.
I got lost in the woods following trails. Which was fun but I didn't actually get to where I was trying to get to.
Though the happy mistake was that I just found some really nice long trails that i could follow on some long hikes. Week(s) long hikes too.
The issue is the water source (old roman spring) that was near enough that was only a few hours walk from where I used to camp, is gone. Fuck knows what they did with it.
Near it there is a small stream or brook but i cannot tell if this water is safe to drink. Though it is besides the point anyway as its only at the first entrance to the woods and following the trail I want to do as a first text hike is 35 miles.
So what can I do about water?

I am thinking of doing a test run on the 35 mile hike next month, but this is gonna be in summer, I am gonna probably need 2-3 litres of water each day for drinking, then some for bathing and cooking. Maybe total even 4-5 litres a day depending how hot it is.
Plus I wanted to hike back, so a 70 mile round trip. Give or take 7 days as I will be wild camping in between, seeing scenery and enjoying the raw woodland.
Something like 35 litres of water is too heavy weight to carry.

So WTF do I do about water source?
Any anons who has experience with long hikes like that, or even longer. How do you deal with no water source?

I carry a rat trap and a little peanut butter for this situation: I can catch a squirrel and drink its blood.

I stopped and asked some bitch that was watering plants if I could have a drink and she was like uhhhh no ummm this isn't my house and went inside. I should have raped her. I know that's what she was afraid of.

>>2828081
>>2828082
Seious questions anons.
I have never gone on a hike like that before. idk wtf to do.
Where I intended to go, I went there because of teh water source i did not intend to hike I was just gonna chill in the woods all day for sentimental reasons.

I am not hunting or killing animals, though you could actually drink blood in a desperate situation.
I also do or may have options to ask farmlands for water along the routes, but again its not a guarantee and few and far in-between.
After hiking the trail in the woods for like 3 hours I double backed and went to a small house and refilled my 2L water bottle, I had drank 1.L already.
Probably only done 10 miles total by then.

Main issue is weight burden.

>>2828084
there's some way you can make water appear out of nowhere using a space blanket and a rock over a hole , uses witchcraft and/or condensation.

google said it's called a solar still

this one has labels

>>2828078 (OP)
>a long hike
how long?

>>2828078 (OP)
>Carrying in is a massive weight burden
Having extremely chapped lips and dying of thirst is an even bigger burden
>>2828080
Plan your hike around water sources. You'd have to be an absolute muppet to go hike 70mi in an area that you know has no water sources. Also using 1-2l for cooking and bathing is retarded. First of all accept that you will smell. There's no reason to waste that much water on bathing. Second of all prep foods that don't require a ton of water.

I keep 6-7 liters on me at all times, rarely will I drink from a water source unless it's cold and coming from a rock face. Filtering and treating water sucks ass, I'll hitchhike 20 miles to town and get buy bottled water then hitch back. My pack weight is ultralight just so I can carry the 15 pounds or more of water comfortably. I have bad water anxiety

>>2828094
see>>2828080
Test hike is 35 miles.
Biggest is 105, but I wont be doing that flippantly.
>>2828114
>chapped lips and dying of thirst is an even bigger burden
>Plan your hike around water sources
Of course, this is why I made OP, because idk the area and only went there because I knew there was a water source, but the area has been majorly changed and even the water source has gone.

>Also using 1-2l for cooking and bathing
This was just me rounding up water for simple sake, not actual plan. I cant plan until I seriously think about it and asking anons here is the first step of teh plan. Anons have to have experience of long hikes.

I got wet wipes (biodegradable) for bathing and ablutions. Never use deodorants or scented crap, it attracts insects. Use talc for chafe.
Food wise I would take small tins of mackrel for energy and cook rice in a mess tin. With of course other small bits of vegetables and fruit. Plus beef jerky for protein if in desperate need.
I would be eating very simply, and of course the pack gets lighter as we go.

I genuinely dont have experience with long hikes. Every time I have done long distance on foot is for running or walking for exercise, and every time I have solo camped it has been wild camping within a distance of a water source.
This would be very unique to me.

>>2828118
So that is like 6kg.
Massive pack burden while hiking.
Fine for a one journey back to the camp but hiking with that is so burdensome that I would probably drink half of that before I got to the next camp. Negating the reason to even carry it!

>>2828078 (OP)
Living on the right coast, I never have to worry about this. I carry some water in my pack and then filter some more if I run out. Out here, it doesn't take much route planning at all to find natural sources. I have never even thought about asking anyone for water lol

People stuck in the desert, on the other hand, don't have many options besides placing water caches along their intended route if possible. For most desert hikes, once your water is halfway done, your hike is halfway done.

Why not filter your own water? I do it all the time. If that triggers you, then just boil it. OP, you said:
>>2828078 (OP)
>asking farmland or houses
You could ask these inanimate things for water, much like an Indian doing a rain dance, but I suspect you meant that you would ask the people associated with farmland and houses for water. The correct wording would be:
>asking farmers or homeowners

>>2828078 (OP)
During my conscription I specialized in reconnaissance and in field exercises we carried our own water because "the enemy might have polluted the water sources". We usually carried 3 litres of water per day, for up to 5 days inside our rucksacks, in addition to our food, ammunition, clothing and HF radio battery bricks.
If you get yourself a good external frame rucksack and go light on clothing and recreational stuff, the weight of water should not become an issue.
Try to plan your route in a way that you get to replenish your water supply every 4-5 days and carry a small water filter with some water treatment pills so you could treat the water if you happen to find a source from the nature.

>>2828184
>once your water is halfway done, your hike is halfway done.
Same with any hike. Soon as your water carry is half done, you are as much as you can be from a water source as you need the other half to get back to the source.
>>2828188
>being a grammar nazi
>being a retard
I bet you have literally zero IRL friends and even your parents despise being around you. Because you are such an irritating person to be around.
You will die alone and as a virgin.

>>2828331
>3 litres of water per day, for up to 5 days
Did a bit of basic maths and that is like 1kg per litre.
Plus 15kg is too much of a weight burden.

Like I said I am gonna use the 35 mile hike as a test run. Not trying to do it fast, take in scenery, camp, enjoy time etc. So along that route I might be able to find farms and houses where I can resupply water anyway. I know from the maps there is no main water source like a river, along the route, though there might be sources for desperate situations. Small streams where I can gather, then boil water.
Though again this is a test hike, I dont actually want to do that and want to ideally know exactly where and when the water sources are.

most people filter and/or purify their own water
you can buy purification tablets and water filters online
if you are hiking more than like 20 miles you will need to do this

>>2828078 (OP)
You carry water. If you don't have a water source, you carry water. It sucks.

If you really aren't sure about finding water, you could maybe get a cart to pull behind you to carry enough water for the entire trip. I've never personally seen anyone hiking use something like this, but I see people pulling similar carts (but just via a handle) thru the woods while disc golfing.

>>2829023
too much of a burden and only good on flat and even terrain, like a golf course.

There's a schizoid on /out/ who keeps pretending he's gonna walk 50 miles without drinking water and has made multiple threads around that concept
I think this is another one of those

You're not gonna go 35 miles without drinking, waterschizo. Neither should you bother people at their doorstep every 5, miles to ask for water. If you're looking for water sources, check out maps. Rivers with constant water flows should be indicated on the maps.

But go ahead and keep posting the same threads

>>2829346
>calls others schizo
>is a schizo
You are mentally ill retard

>>2829349
I think the little golf cart is a great idea actually. Since you don't want to carry 5L of water because it's a inhuman task, you should try the cart and report here on how people looked at you

>>2828078 (OP)
>How can I deal with this?
>Carrying in is a massive weight burden, but relying upon potentially asking farmland or houses along the route for water is also not a guarantee.
Rule of thumb is bring 50% more water than you think you need. Water is a serious game. It sounds like you need to plan your route according to access to water and have the ability filter and carry a lot with you. Don't fuck around with being isolated without water. It's a misery you'll never want to know, way worse than carrying a heavy load.

>>2828355
Soo, how was your hike? Died of thirst?

Bring enough water. Simple as that