Thread 2841533

What's a sleeping bag you recommend?
I slept two weeks in Norway this summer with a random 5°C sleeping bag, and it wasn't that warm.
I'm planning to go sleep on some mountains this autumn and I want to get comfortable with lower temperatures.

>>2841533 (OP)
What did you wear?

>>2841533 (OP)
bump.
what are some good subzero (<32F) sleeping bags that compress to a small size? Im willing to drop 250 bucks at the most but cheaper is obv better

>>2841533 (OP)
For me it's the Paria Outdoors Thermodown 0 Sleeping Bag combined with a Sea to Summit Reactor Sleeping Bag Liner, and a Gossamer Thinlight foam pad.

>>2841701
>Gossamer Thinlight foam pad
Get an actual pad and you won't need a 3lb sleeping bag+liner

I did the 0F bag and no pad thing when I was a noob too, it's retarded. With a 3-4R value pad you can actually be comfortable at 30F in a 30F quilt, shocking I know

>>2841582
One night temperature dropped to 1°C and i put on basically all i had: thermal pants, long pants, 2 pairs of socks (one normal, one wool), thermal longsleeves, tshirt, fleece jacket, neck cover and a tshirt over my head to keep it from the cold air (the sleeping bag would leave some spots a bit open while i was sleeping).
It wasn't that awful but i wish it would have been a bit more comfortable, especially as i want to try camping in the snow.
I was using a small inflatable mattress and i'd say it was doing an ok job to keep the cold off the ground

>>2841719
Shit, sorry forgot to mention the inflatable sleeping pad. I use the Nemo Tensor Extreme which is VERY overkill for the 0F sleeping bag, but if it works it works.

>>2841737
Ah, that makes more sense
Carry on /toasty/ anon

>>2841733
What mat you used can make a big difference as >>2841719. A plain Jane air mattress often isn't insulated and can be rather cold. You can put a cheap foam pad on top of it for a lot of comfort.

Otherwise you'll want a bag that's conservatively rated for whatever temp you are considering. In NA, most people have a 20-30F bag for spring to fall, and a true winter bag. If you are regularly seeing 0 C your bag should be rated for at least -5C comfort.

>>2841694
Down is only super-compressible insulation. 250 will probably not be enough new for something in 850 fill power but if you check eBay you might get lucky, double so if you are okay with quilts

>>2841733
That should have been well enough for a 5°C sleeping bag, odd.

>>2841809
>>2841733
That's probably the extreme or limit temperature rather than the comfort temperature. Companies are very sneaky with that stuff.

Also, if it wasn't EN rated then it's completely meaningless. And I suspect it isn't EN rated considering OP described it as a "random" bag, aka some shit from walmart. I have a non-EN rated sleeping bag rated for 5C but it's extremely uncomfortable for anything below 15C.

>>2841533 (OP)
first you need to understand the ratings, comfort vs. you will survive. Also consider weather can change and get much colder with wind than you anticipated. I had a bag rated for 20f, I thought it was going to be 40f, but it was low 20sf and I froze my ass off and my toes were going numb. At best the bag would have been comfortable at about 50f. I bought a bag rated -20f with down fill. Be sure its large enough, bigger is better than a bit too small especially when its cold. I used to camp a lot, sleeping outside with no tent, sometimes with a tent. Over the years I seemed to have forgot how things work. Also know what type of tent you need to keep the rain/wind off. A sleeping pad for comfort and to help retain heat. It all works together. Its always better to a bag that is too warm, because you can unzip to control heat, then a bag that is too cold because you can't sleep and will be drained the next day, and it can be even colder the next day. I learned to wear the least amount of clothes, but wear warm socks. Others say to wear warm clothes, just figure out what works for you. Also, zippers are very very important. When I was freezing my ass off I zipped the bag up all the way and closed the opening as much as possible to retain heat. When the sun finally came out I was stuck in the back for like 20 minutes because the zipper was stuck and I had limited mobililty in the bag. This would have been a major safety issue if for any reason I need to get out of the bag or tent.

Enlightened Equipment Revelation 10F quilt has worked for me in Norwegian fall and spring. Never wintered there yet. I am part norge and love it out there.

I just spent the night in my 10°C sleeping bag and i had a blanket on top. It went down to -5°C and it was toasty. Get whatever you can afford it's about going out not buying gear, you'll always find a way to make it work.

Got a 10* quilt, overfilled, and a 7 r value rated big agnes sleeping pad. was just in the sierras last week, temps got down to 25*ish and windy and I was so comfy and warm in my tent I had to take my sweats off and just had my boxers and socks on. Also helped having my dog with his dog quilt on under the quilt as well. my friend however was so cold he had to steel my closed cell foam mat I originally brought for my dog (r value of like 2) because the shit he rented broke kek. I don't care if my sleeping bad is a lb heavier and a little bulky, shit is hilariously comfy and I won't have it anyway anymore.

>>2843459
At zero humidity, right? Even then... 15°C below the comfort temp is a fucking lot.

>>2843260
agree, spend the money once on a top shelf bag also get 20d outer fabric and 10d inner as you will lose feathers otherwise.
>>2844647
ultralightfags never cease to amaze me. You want durable shit, comfy then fucking light in that order. What good is a piece of fucking equipment if it breaks what good is a piece of equipment if its not comfy and then you get the lightest shit you can afford. Synthetic bags are really cheap 950 or so grams for a 20 degree bag at $250, get a sleeping pad that wont fucking pop with 70d bottom, i mean its just amazing how many fucking dudes get these ultralight sleeping pads overblow them and they pop. Ask me "heyyy man? you got any sleeping pad patches??? broooo" Of course i was there once, but learned my lesson pretty fucking quickly also always underfill your sleeping pad

Another pro tip is to boil water and seal it in bottles such as nalgenes , wrap it in a hiking sock, and throw them into the bottom of your sleeping bag. They will stay warm for hours and in morning have some ready water. Obviously the seal needs to be perfect but slept outdoors in 5 degrees weather in Maine last winter on a Katahdin summit trip and this helped

>>2841533 (OP)
Honestly for hunting, car camping, and rockhounding, I just use a Teton flannel bag. I know it's fake flannel but it works really well.

>>2844654
With the right tent and pads it's definitely possible.

>>2844879
I stand by the hot water bottle in a sock trick