Thread 2845548

I want to get into some winter camping (pine woodlands) and the colder it is the quieter it is out there. As such I want to take a stove with me for a cosy time, reading and carving things inside a warm tent. I'm on a basic budget but these are what I'm thinking. I don't care to spend extra on titanium even though it is half the weight, I will just take more rest stops.

Which of these tents would you choose? Or which other? First tent (picrel) only fits1 person, stove inside main compartment - needs a heat mat

Or the bigger version with the separate compartment for the burner. Could the smaller one be more cosy, potentially, or is the bigger one the better option?

>>2845549
From what I'm told, it gets very cozy even if the stove is outside.

>>2845548 (OP)
>carving things inside a tent
Hello no /out/ Have you ever even been camping?

>>2845571
I'm not going to send my arm sideways suddenly and tear the canvas, or go to sleep with kindling between my toes, don't worry mum.

>>2845548 (OP)
I haven't compared prices, but any canvas tent + the thing that goes around the chimney might be cheaper than a paper made one. The chimney thing might even come with the stove

>>2845735
*purpose made one

is there a cheap foldable one ?

want to carry it while i walk or could you haul around a regular one

>>2845922
I am OP. I just ordered this foldable titanium stove from aliexpress - £100 ($130?). It weighs 4.3lbs and packs into a small carry box. The skinny legs initially put me off but after looking through some reviews there are guys who have built/photo'd it and given it 5 stars, so I will see how sturdy it is when it gets here.

It's less than half the price of other titanium stoves, the same price as a heavy stainless steel one so I took a gamble. Will post results.

For the tent I decided to get a small tipi stove tent with the windproof skirt and a cloth inner liner for the bed area. I might even cover the liner in mylar survival blanket that I cut to fit around it, why not? That would be windproofed!

>>2846029
>I might even cover the liner in mylar survival blanket that I cut to fit around it, why not?
Keep them away from the stove pipe. Highly flammable.

>>2846114
Noted, thanks.
I've also had people warn me about carbon monoxide so I guess I'll keep the top vent open a touch until I can get hold of a tester.

>>2846029
Link for tipi or specs?

>>2846024
>>2846026
>trusting alibaba of all things to give you the correct metal.

M8, I dont wanna dampen your diaper, but you likely got an aluminum or pot-steel stove. Have you used it yet though? If it warps after like 2 or so uses, you got fleeced.

Whatever you do, get some xc skiis

FUCK SNOWSHOES

>>2846391
Snowshoes have a place, so do backcountry skis and crampons. A well groomed trail like your pic could be walked in sneakers lol, xc is for babies.

>>2846424
Yes obviously you can’t xc ski up a mountain, you’re gonna have to bring snow shoes anyways

But xc skis are extremely efficient and bonus you get to ski on the downhill

You could walk the trail in pic related? Sure, youd still be way slower than these chads, but thats not my point. My point was to show a pulk, you would understand that if you weren't 14. Back country xc exists, ask literally the entire country of finland

>>2846424
>Backcountry skis are good for when it isnt steep enough to use crampons
>Crampons are good for mountaineering
>Cross country skis are good when it's a very low grade and you don't want to pay for expensive touring skis
>Skate cross-country is good on established trails at a moderate grade when you want to go fast
>Snowshoes are for when you don't know how to ski.

I only kinda mean to be a dick. What other time would you use them though?

A buddy of mine uses a pop up ice fishing shelter with a hole cut in it for the stove pipe. I’ve camped in it with him a few times and it’s pretty dang warm. This is a good cheap alternative to Arctic ovens or other stove tents with the main drawback being that there’s no floor. It is very easy to set up though which some stove tents (Arctic ovens for example) are not and it’s relatively lightweight. It also has windows which is a nice touch.

>>2845549
As far as size goes, I haven’t used the tents in your pic but from my experience using Arctic ovens and my buddy’s ice fishing shelter, the stove takes up a ton of space especially if you are using cots like we do where I live. A 10 foot wide arctic oven can really only fit two people. I’d go with the bigger tent for comfort. Ice fishing shelters are pretty roomy and we’re able to sleep three in one although one of the cots needs to be taller and able to clear the shorter ones so they can be arranged in a U shape around the stove if that makes sense.

>>2846576
>cross country is good for very low grade
Eh I disagree. I’m not about to ski up a mountain with XC skis but you can herringbone up some pretty dang steep stuff on the trail. They are much more versatile when it comes to inclines than you’re implying. Same goes for skate skis which are even better on uphills since you are typically going faster, although you need relatively flat hard pack or groomed trails for skate skis.
>snowshoes are for people that can’t ski
I’d agree if we’re just talking about snowshoes as a method of traversing the landscape from point A to B. There are better options. But snowshoes are incredibly useful tools. When I hunt in dense woods I like to use XC skis on unmaintained forest roads to get to my hunting area and then I’ll strap on snow shoes to navigate around the trees. Snowshoes are also absolutely vital to have if you are doing any kind of off trail cross country snowmachining. They are very tiring though and I would not use them for extended travel.

>>2846582
It sounds like you’re saying XC is NOT good for low grade, btw

For me lots of my hikes have long approaches so winter hiking looks like this

>xc ski as close as i can to the ascent with snow shoes on my back/sled
>stash skis, put on boots and snow shoes
>tramp up
>butt slide down
>enjoy the slightly downhill xc ski out

Sometimes it feels easier than summer hiking!!!

>>2846026
>>2846024
how warm does it get ?