Thread 4455599

Whenever I try to suggest that there is also a world of photography that is outside of social media and how working photographers even now use social media as a promotion of their work which exists in the print space of galleries, exhibitions, awards, grants, photography festivals, photobooks, commission portraits, assignments, print sales, museum archives etc. Then there are some absolute demotivational SUBHUMANS come out from their holes and start whining about jews or nepotism or whatever the fuck. These motherfuckers are on a mission to demotivate everyone to not at least try, to not take photography seriously, to not make connections in the real world, to not meaningfully engage with the world around them, to stop them from at least trying to get into the photo industry and shooting your shot at making a career, to stop them from desiring to reach a bigger audience, to stop them from viewing their work as something important, meaning and immortal...

These subhumans never want any anon to have a career. They want them to stay powerless, without any connections as some defeated and failed photographers which nobody know about. They keep preaching this disgusting defeatist bullshit.

To any newfags reading. Fear not the defeatist filth of these vermin. Life is hard but it's worth the try. Go grab life by the fucking balls. We're gonna make it.

Envy is the vice of choice for this board.

>>4455599 (OP)
They're just crabs who cares. I take pictures of the sky and I'm happy

>>4455599 (OP)
lol she's having a melty over her shitty reddit "muh liminal" garbage thread, how cute.

>>4455599 (OP)
So true and based. Good take OP.

>>4455602
1000% true.

>Go to 4chan
>post amateur trash
>expect praise
>get called a fag
>write a big butthurt essay projecting like fuck and playing armchair shrink
confirmed
op is a fag

>>4455599 (OP)
You called them and here they are! Hilarious and high tier bait.

>>4455599 (OP)
I find /p/ highly motivating, as all the shit posted here means I'm not so bad after all.

>>4455599 (OP)
Has their lord won his war yet?

>>4455599 (OP)
and they abuse dogs, you forgot that

>>4455599 (OP)

This is cope op and you know it. Back in the day photographers like helmet newton and Terry Richardson where making many millions of dollars and living like rockstars, world famous, massively respected.
Fast forward to today and nobody gives a shit about photographers, there are no household name photographers, just social media full of trillions of photos making it all worthless. If your goal is just to barely scrape a living sure you probably could with massive effort but that does not change the fact society’s value of photography has massively dropped.
I wish we could go back, it was such a fun time to be into photography.

>>4455653
Take away all the glamour and just focus on the essentials of what you love about photography, and I think it remains very enjoyable with just the amount of time you can spare during your regular life.

>>4455632
Proofs??

>>4455653
This still happens but the new meta is raising awareness for humanitarian issues instead of the hypersexuality and ritualized goy-disrespecting of fashion and street photography.

Today’s hot shit photographers shoot famines and document the deaths of communities. And do the same amount of drugs as before, if not more. Also, the highest paid photographer rn is a landscape photographer.

>>4455664
Its just cinefag who abuses dogs
https://archive.palanq.win/p/thread/4442111/#4452396
https://archive.palanq.win/p/thread/4442111/#4452588

>>4455599 (OP)
Nothing good comes from this site. It doesn't matter what you post or how good your intentions are. This place is full of anti-social lunatics with nothing going on in their lives. Leeching off their parents or government. Who's only joy in life is to endlessly spew contrarian shit for the sake of it.
My best advice is to just ignore this site in general, especially if you're looking for actual advice.
Every one in a while one or two anons will have genuine advice and experience to share, but they get drowned out, almost instantly, by all the lunatics.

>>4455667
take your meds

>>4455735
everything bad comes *to* this site. I suspect, if a survey were ever done, that most users of this website are banned from other social media for the antisocial lunacy you describe.

>>4455746
myself included
permabanned from reddit

>>4455735
>>4455746
>>4455748
Stop projecting.

>>4455653
>>Fast forward to today and nobody gives a shit about photographers, there are no household
People do give a shit about photographers and there are still big names. Here are few on top of my head:

>Wolfgang Tillmans
>Ren Hang(he killed himself but was the new hot shit)
>Daniel Arnold(the great street photographer for american millennials)
>Juergen Teller(say whatever man is a masterful troll)
>Bryan Schutmaat
>Alec Soth
>Petra Collins(see whole Euphoria controversy and how they stole her style)
>Jack Davison(a literal redditor)
>Rinko Kawauchi
>Masao Yamamoto
>Gursky
>Burtynsky

Some of them are also well known on social media but all of them are big(except Davison) in the print space.

>>4455609
Lol trvke, I saw them get intellectually raped in the other thread. The timing matches up exactly.

>>4455751
>People do give a shit about photographers
ok but people or (((people))) tho?

>>4455776
>The timing matches up exactly.
Meds.

>>4455751
Gursky is the only well known one you mentioned.
>>4455667
I have yet to see anything that even remotely suggests he abuses dogs rather than minorities.

>>4455798
>Gursky is the only well known one you mentioned.
Among normies. But in photography circles all of these photographers are "mainstream". I mean Petra Collins is The Zoomer Photographer with over 1 million followers.

/p/ has only one very famous photographer which has published a photobook and is in the game. He is Henri Prestes.

>>4455805
>with over 1 million followers
it's crazy that this is now your high bar for measure of success. just imagine how many of those are bots and indians

>>4455806
> just imagine how many of those are bots and indians
That's what I am preaching. Here's the best filter: actual photographer worth giving two shits also exist in print space.

In case of Petra Collins NewYorker and Vogue wrote about her. She has several photobooks published. Her maximalist vibrant color style's influence is everywhere, see Euphoria TV show plagiarism controversy.

>>4455813
She's only known because she's a DP. That look existed long before she even entered the scene, especially in movies.
>But in photography circles all of these photographers are "mainstream".
To quote the late William Friedkin, " who gives a shit?"

>>4455825
Okay.

>>4455825
>>She's only known because she's a DP
Lol, lmao even

>To quote the late William Friedkin
Who?

>>4455825
Americans are obsessed with influence, if needed they retcon it. They take common things and attribute them to a single person.
>>4455805
That guy is just aping Tarkovsky in some of his photos. In others, Lynch.
>>4455813
>Her maximalist vibrant color style's influence is everywhere, see Euphoria TV show plagiarism controversy.
John Wick came in 2014. So did Inherent Vice and Nightcrawler. The look has been around for a long time now, at least back to the 60s with Italian and Japanese cinema.
Stills, second fiddle, etc.

>>4455805
Forgot to say, the actual well known And influential /p/hag is Burke.

The best part about this Petra Collins fiasco is it proves what I always tell you people: photographers wish to "graduate" to cinema. Save for some of the finer genres like landscape of course.

>>4455667
>one of the mirrorless haters is a zoophile who thinks bestiality is fine
Of course
>someone here agrees with him
Let it be him with his trip off.

>>4455837
Kill yourself dogfucker

>>4455839
>infleuncinal
Yeah only for yearly calendars. He is a millennial boomer.

>>4455837
>dogfucker

>>4455841
>Dogfucker's opinions are dogshit
pottery

Another thread derailed by Dogfuckers. Hence proved OP's point.

Rabid Dogfuckers are killing /p/.

>>4455849
It's not an opinion, it's fact. She went to Hollywood hoping to be part of the show's production.
>>4455845
>is a zoophile
lies
>is fine
It's not, it's degenerate. But mud reproduction is worse.

>>4455857
And you fuck dogs

>>4455859
I don't lay with animals, not even pavement apes.

>>4455751
As a novice who hasn't heard of these people before, how do you recommend I best acquaint myself with them and their work?

On old 4chan, cinefag dropping his trip to stop it from being banned wouldn't work.

>>4455867
On old 4chan if I were banned for off topic posts so would be this guy >>4455859. On old 4chan no janny worth his salt would think what I posted merits a ban either.

>>4455599 (OP)
Yeah, that's cool and all, but there's literally no money in photography unless it's wedding trash or corporate slop. There's fine art photographers that have exhibitions in exclusive New York galleries, hundreds of thousands of followers on instagram, their own Wikipedia page, published photography books, worked with Vogue, etc. and still have to do shit on the side to survive.

>>4455865
>As a novice who hasn't heard of these people before
That's because they're not important save for a small circlejerk.

>>4455865
Follow them on Insta, checkout their websites, look at their projects, go to used bookstores and hunt for cheap photobooks(not just theirs but classics too), check youtube for the videos of their photobooks, read their interviews, see which people influenced them and look for those photographers, see any galleries or museums in your area and visit them, visit any photobook stores in your area etc.

>>4455879
No cinefag, on old 4chan you would have gotten a permanent ban for all boards after your little spiel about how you think bestiality is fine, and you wouldn't even be able to view the website after.

>>4455879
Go back to >>>/an/ please

>>4455881
Bestiality cinema watching faggots won't dictate what's important and not important in photography.

>>4455657
>Whenever I try to suggest that there is also a world of photography that is outside of social media and how working photographers even now use social media as a promotion of their work which exists in the print space of galleries, exhibitions, awards, grants, photography festivals, photobooks, commission portraits, assignments, print sales, museum archives etc. Then there are some absolute demotivational SUBHUMANS come out from their holes and start whining about jews or nepotism or whatever the fuck. These motherfuckers are on a mission to demotivate everyone to not at least try, to not take photography seriously, to not make connections in the real world, to not meaningfully engage with the world around them, to stop them from at least trying to get into the photo industry and shooting your shot at making a career, to stop them from desiring to reach a bigger audience, to stop them from viewing their work as something important, meaning and immortal...
idiot

>>4455880
Keep making quality projects, keep fighting to get it published, keep making connections and audience will come. I guarantee you.

>>4455885
/an/ does not want him

He belongs on /trash/

>>4455894
Kek

>>4455881
Art photography is a small circlejerk anyway. Being important isn't important to me. I just want to see how people are expressing themselves through photography.
>>4455882
>Insta
I have a profound allergy to social media, but there really isn't a choice when it comes to photos, is there. Thanks for the tips though. I need to get out and engage my community photographers more. I'm a recluse too often.

>>4455905
>I need to get out and engage my community photographers more. I'm a recluse too often.
Based

Real world connections are where it is at. I found cool people by simply reaching out to them on social media and then meeting them in person.

>>4455885
>back
That implies I'm from there.
>>4455894
Why would I go to a board populated by coomers and manchildren who watch Barney the Dinosaur tier shows? mlp literally aired at the same timeslot as Barney. That is the fucking mindset of bronies,

>>4455942
Stop fucking dogs and recording it.

>>4455945
>Stop ducking fogs and recording it

>>4455945
He's a voyeurist zoophile, like the marquis de sade.

>>4455942
Cinefag confirmed naruto fan!

>>4455947
Dogfucker

>>4455951
>fogducker

>>4455955
You fucked a dog under the bridge?

>>4455957
No anon, "the photographer" ducked the fog but the bridge could not.

>>4455958
Hmm okay so you fuck dogs in privacy.

>>4455751
>Ren Hang(he killed himself but was the new hot shit)
He was just another Terry Richardson ripoff minus the celebs, no wonder he killed himself. The whole appeal of Terry's pictures is the iconoclasm, and you need people who are already seen as icons to do that.

>>4455970
>>He was just another Terry Richardson ripoff minus the celebs
Imagine being this retarded.

>>4455970
Dogfucker dropped his trip

>>4455972
You really want to go there anon?

>>4455980
Hell, I just looked up "ren hang terry richardson" and found entire articles showing examples that are way more blatant than what I spotted.

>>4455982
>>4455983
this shit is gross lol

>>4455980
Dogfucker, I don't care.

>>4455985
Gross as it is, anon shilled the copy as "influential" without knowing it was just a copy.

>>4455988
Coper, I don't care either

>>4455993
Ren Hang one is better lmao

This guy learned about the plagiarism of his work after one of his readers tipped him

>>4455991
Ren Hang is just better. I don't care about imitation. If you can improve or add to previous style then that's totally fine.

>>4455995
RH photographed it from lower angle and made it better.

>>4455991
>influential
Where? I said that he was famous. Learn to read you blind cunt.

>>4455997
>RH photographed it from lower angle and made it better.
INTERRACIAL BREEDING GROUNDS

>>4456002
>INTERRACIAL BREEDING GROUNDS
That what you call your apartment in which you fuck the dogs?

>>4455994
it isn't though

>>4456005
It is

>>4456007
it's a poorly lit snapshit

>>4456004
>and made it better.

>>4456009
You fucking dogs of other breeds?

>>4456008
>poorly lit
it is a stylistic choice which became the hallmark of his body of work.

>>4456010
This sockpuppetry is pathetic, dropped tripfag.
You even announced you were doing this in >>4455974, be more subtle next time.

Drama fiend BUSTED

>>4456014
>no u

>>4455970
>Ren Hang jumped off a building
Damn, talk about missed opportunities.

>>4456014
>>4456026
MEDS

>>4455942
>posting without a trip code
who do you think you’re fooling newfag

>>4455995
Plagiarism would be saying that photo is mine when it isn't, recreating something is something else, no?

>>4456629

You should be admitting it up front if ripping off that badly. Homage or whatever the word is.

>>4456629
recreating sometthing so closely would still (i don't know if legally, but like in a "come on man" sense) warrant some kind attribution i think. not just presented without, and giving people the impression that it was your original idea. fair use is fine, its a thing, but you have to present it as such.

>>4456635
What are you, a comedian?

>>4456634
Pretty much no one will bring it up on the off chance that someone is very impressed by being first or original or whatever

Secondly, someone's audience might know very, very well that they're just able to have all the same tools and rip people off as fast as possible or whatever

And thirdly, I don't know if all of those butts aren't dudes

>>4456655

Mert and Marcus were famous fashion photographers who occasionally ripped off shoots but clearly labelled them upfront as a homage to whoever made the original. Kind of like a band doing a cover song. Just a way more professional way to operate and made the original artist and themselves look good.