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Anonymous No.4471250 [Report] >>4471254 >>4471259 >>4471261 >>4471268 >>4471277 >>4471278 >>4471298 >>4471983 >>4472441 >>4472672 >>4478787
Lust for Recognition
I am going to be honest anons. I am highly ambitious photographer and have a strong desire for critical acclaim for my work but I am not getting it and it is causing me lots of mental stress. I can't mange to live with myself. There are very minimal prospects of getting published from where I am. There is a deep rooted fear in me of fucking up and making mediocre art. I am not even "putting myself out there" because I loath myself that you still haven't forged your style, your education and practice is not complete and also because people scare me. I keep saying to myself one day things will fall into their place then I will be ready to take my shot.

I don't know how to get myself out of this pit.
Anonymous No.4471254 [Report]
>>4471250 (OP)
Don't focus on being successful. Focus on just doing it. If you don't even have a defined style, you're getting way ahead of yourself by deciding you want recognition for your work.
Forget all that shit, or at least put it to simmer on the back burner while you actually up your skills.
What does your work look like? Post some examples so we can see.
Sugar !egyYvoBZV2 No.4471257 [Report] >>4471263 >>4472141
The problem you have is you shoot for vapid likes and social media clout. I don't have that problem because I don't give a shit what people think, especially on faggot ass social fucking media.

I have seen what makes them happy and I'm not at all impressed. These cocksuckers are obsessed with figuring out if you're a Democrat or a Republican before they cast judgement on your work. Go shoot what makes you happy and report back, stop giving a shit about your peers or even what retards here think, most of them are too busy arguing DxO scores and dumb shit like toneh and meganpickels and muh SONEEEEEEYYYYY

I have a style and you either like it or don't, and whatever you think, I don't give a shit. What are you going to do, reach through the computer screen and slap me in the dick? Are you going to call my employer (me) and tell them my picture I took sucks and they should fire me? Who gives a fuck what some strangers on the Internet think, you go do what makes you happy and don't give two stinking shits about what some bedwetting teenie boppers on a Malaysian post card exchange BBS think about it.

Don't even listen to me I'm fat and retarded.
Anonymous No.4471259 [Report]
>>4471250 (OP)
Post some of your best pics so we can meaninglessly nitpick them to death.
Anonymous No.4471261 [Report]
>>4471250 (OP)
post your snapshits to instagram.
see which snapshits get most views.
post more snapshits like it.
repeat.
Anonymous No.4471263 [Report] >>4471265
>>4471257
Sugar, your landscapes suck and you're pretty cringe sometimes.
But your nudes are actually pretty good and you're alright sometimes.
Sugar !egyYvoBZV2 No.4471265 [Report]
>>4471263

come on I've had a few good landscapes, what about my cave work.

thank you btw
Anonymous No.4471268 [Report]
>>4471250 (OP)
statistically speaking you're very likely to do mediocre things
just jump infront of a freight train
Anonymous No.4471277 [Report] >>4472439
>>4471250 (OP)

Put your photo on instrgram, go spend $100 on fake likes and comments, and thats it, you are now just as successful as everybody else on there.
You will also then realise that anyone you thought was successful was just doing exactly this and then you won’t care anymore.
Once you have brought them yourself you will know exactly what fake likes comments and followers look like and suddenly realise that’s all 99% of anybody’s profile has.
Anonymous No.4471278 [Report] >>4471292
>>4471250 (OP)
>Guys help I can't get famous doing
The age of photography is gone anon. Even at its height you were pretty fucked due to the barriers to entry like cost and knowledge. The barrier to entry is now gone and with it every Ching Chongnese with a phone is flooding the internet with ""content"".
You're fucked. Not in a mean way, just like, you're plain fucked. The photography you conduct is likely of decent or better quality, but it no longer matters. All you can do is network your way in like a Joo.

We are in the age of videography. More specifically short-format, vertical videography. I hate it, most people here hate it, but your audience (the masses) don't give a fuck, and if your video is longer than 20 seconds you're more likely to get famous by blowing a bunch of dudes and advertising it on facebook. Photography currently sits several notches below that. It sucks but it's reality.
Anonymous No.4471292 [Report]
>>4471278

It’s just stagnant right now, I have not seen a single photo I’ve not seen before for years now.
Somebody needs to create some new tech.
Anonymous No.4471298 [Report] >>4473366
>>4471250 (OP)
With authority of a hobbyist with no public ambition I suggest: work for living and do art for yourself. If you have artistic talent you will develop a style by keeping on it. Even I did. (My 'style' appears to be abstract graphical nonsense with no general interest. But I do like it.)
Photography or art in general likely is not the best choice for a living career if you can't comfortably interact with people and you are afraid of doing standard slop work. Because that's what those scary people pay you to do.
Anonymous No.4471983 [Report]
>>4471250 (OP)
Ask Chatgpt unironically.
Anonymous No.4472141 [Report]
>>4471257
One of the better posters here. I enjoy your work and appreciate how not up your own ass you are
Anonymous No.4472439 [Report] >>4472454
>>4471277
cope. Greg for a day mogs you and everyone loves him. he's making literally 150k a month off book sales alone and has fucked so many prime asian pussies over the decades it is not even funny. meanwhile you seethe and cope posting shots of building corners and signs that even you do not like
Anonymous No.4472441 [Report] >>4472443
>>4471250 (OP)
If you're not a jew or a well connected mormon, you can't do much
And if you don't have a gimmick like shooting trailer parks on ultra large format and a public image to match, you can't do much
And if you're not a journalist/activist "raising awareness", you can't do much

Success in art doesn't have dick to do with aesthetic prowess. It's a business. It has to do with finding a customer who wants what you can offer, so it's 100% subject to the nonsensical whims of the gated community segment of society that purchases modern art.
Anonymous No.4472443 [Report]
>>4472441
Don't forget being a chad and somehow being able to photograph non-stop hot women (this is also more doable for jews)
Anonymous No.4472454 [Report] >>4472509
>>4472439

Holy cope click on his followers on his Instagram, scroll through them click onto their pages, if you can’t tell those are fake followers I don’t know what to tell you. This stuff only works because of people like you who just cannot get your head around the fact somebody would lie to you even though they so blatantly are it’s embarrassing you cannot tell.
Anonymous No.4472509 [Report] >>4472510
>>4472454
>every successful photographer is just faking it with bots
Now this is some weapons-grade cope. Greg has decades of content and experiences around the world. Those assignments require funding. Money doesn't grow on trees, incel kid.
Anonymous No.4472510 [Report] >>4472526 >>4472538
>>4472509
Why the fuck is everyone talking about this Greg guy.
Anonymous No.4472526 [Report] >>4472932
>>4472510
Greg Girard, /p/ darling
Anonymous No.4472538 [Report] >>4472932
>>4472510
Because he is good and actually made it from years of skill and putting himself out there with books just on street photography. Only contrarian nophotos hate him.
Anonymous No.4472672 [Report]
>>4471250 (OP)

Your "lust for recogntition" won't be satisfied by likes from normies, no matter how many you get. It will only be satisfied by equals, or those greater than you. If your so obsessed about not being mediocre and creating "art", the path of authenticity and finding cutting edge photography subjects is the only one you can take.

> I loath myself
> deep rooted fear in me of fucking up
> people scare me

Lots of elementary problems holding you back. Figure them out.
Anonymous No.4472829 [Report] >>4472830 >>4472896
its a pipedream anon, the only people who achieve critical success in art either buy their way in or are elevated by family or friends who can buy their way in for them, academies only focus on people with wealth and status so if you dont have that you can forget about it, and online it mostly comes down to being blessed by the algorithms which again is a one in a billion chance
Anonymous No.4472830 [Report] >>4472833 >>4472896
>>4472829
>demoralizing bot post # 103937372820
Anonymous No.4472833 [Report]
>>4472830
breaking away from a culture of adoration for the rich and powerful is liberating not demoralizing anon, your value is inherent and not based upon what accolades youve gotten from corrupt institutions, free yourself from bourgeois mental slavery
Anonymous No.4472896 [Report] >>4472941 >>4472944 >>4472946
>>4472829
>>4472830
Camers are literally a tool, a medium, to communicate something. Hobbyists don't understand this and obsess on the gear while they piddle about taking banal photos of nothing. A true artist or someone who has something to say simply chooses the medium, which sometimes might be a photograph, and communicates with it. This is completely lost on consumers with no lives or real opinions who just cargo cult taking photos hoping it gets them recognition or validation for the hundreds of hours of time and thousands of dollars they are wasting on the hobby.
Anonymous No.4472932 [Report] >>4472933 >>4472939 >>4472944
>>4472526
>>4472538
NTA, I've been here for over a decade and this is the first time I'm hearing about this "/p/ darling" guy.
A quick skim through wikipedia shows he is one of millions of streetfags that went to Asia to snap some dark and empty streets there.

>age 69–70
And he did it back when simply getting a decently exposed night shot outside was considered the very peak of skill, and intentionally slowing shutter speed to represent movement was considered high art.
Guess this explains how he's got his breakthrough, long before internet or smartphones, when techniques like the aforementioned shutter speed manipulation would be taught in art schools or passed down from photographers to their proteges.
Hell, even just travelling to such remote locations was considered something special, exclusive to the upper echelons of middle class and higher.

And I guess this explains why even now, many decades later, we have millions of retards everywhere trying to replicate this "streetshitting in some faraway exotic land" road to success, not realizing how everything has changed since dinosaurs like this Girard took it. And even more importantly, not realizing that the actual road to success (even back then) was through networking.

To OP.
How do you get popular with critics without nepotism/mountain of shekels?
Get a list of local community art centres, galleries (usually associated with colleges) and start networking there. Make stuff old professors and curators like to get good boy points. Become friends with young aspiring "art people" who will either replace said curators a couple of decades in, or will become artists like yourself (so you can form a circlejerk with them).
Work your way up from local to city and then national level.
Bonus points for acquiring nepotism through marriage to some critic's daughter.

How do you get popular in general?
Instagram. Botting, ads, paid promotions by influencers.
Duh.
Anonymous No.4472933 [Report] >>4472936 >>4472944
>>4472932
>>How do you get popular with critics without nepotism/mountain of shekels?
>Kiss ass and circlejerk faggots with massive egos
A sad reality. The myth of the meritocracy.
Anonymous No.4472936 [Report] >>4472944
>>4472933
Shit's eternal.
Even the All-Time Greats, the ancient Renaissance Masters, the motherfucking Ninja Turtles themselves had to make a living by sucking dicks of rich and powerful.
Even if we forget about flattering portraits of their sponsors, which were the absolute majority of their works, even then.
Every Virgin Mary and Venus, every David and St. Michael the Archangel was based on some richfag or his offspring.
Anonymous No.4472939 [Report] >>4472968
>>4472932
>5 paragraphs of cope about why Greg is popular and anon is a loser nobody
Get a grip, faggot.
Anonymous No.4472941 [Report]
>>4472896
TRVKE
Anonymous No.4472944 [Report] >>4472945 >>4472946 >>4472968
>>4472896
>>4472932
>>4472933
>>4472936
>just accept defeat because scary world out there is filled with nepobabies and you're a delicate little fagman who should only stick to doing wholesome things in tiny little garden which your mommy has allotted you

WEAK, I VVILL SPREAD TERROR IN HEARTS OF MY ENEMIES WITH THE GREATNESS OF MY PHOTOGRAPHS
I VVILL MAKE THEM SUBMIT
I VVILL FUCK THEIR BITCH
I VVILL GET PUBLISHED
I VVILL GET PRAISED LIKE DEMIGOD
I VVILL CONQUER THE ART WORLD
Anonymous No.4472945 [Report]
>>4472944
Would you care to share one of these great photographs you speak of?
Anonymous No.4472946 [Report]
>>4472944
See:
>>4472896
You are a cargo cult moron with nothing to say. Just a desire to be seen.
Anonymous No.4472968 [Report] >>4472984
>>4472939
Adorable that you think you are on first name basis with your favourite influencer daddy.
I hope uncle Greggy at least signed all those books you bought from him.

>>4472944
I gave you practical advice on how to achieve these things you are 'boldly' proclaiming.
The fact that you are simply trying to pump yourself up instead of actually doing anything to achieve your goals means you have already surendered, and all of this is empty ironic bravado.
Anonymous No.4472984 [Report] >>4473019
>>4472968
>The fact that you are simply trying to pump yourself up instead of actually doing anything to achieve your goals means you have already surendered, and all of this is empty ironic bravado.
It's called positive mental attitude, you doomerist fag.
Anonymous No.4473019 [Report] >>4473390
>>4472984
The fuck it is.
You are not thinking positively, you are simply pretending.
And you cannot even do that properly with your ironic memeposting framed in all caps. This is negative thinking at it's worst, hiding your inability to formulate a plan of action, your lack of self confidence behind formulaic shitposting.
"Doomerist", fucking pathetic.
A person thinking positively sets clearly defined goals, breaks them down into manageable subgoals and achieves them.
Positive reinforcement comes from the path already travelled, the goals achieved define it's correctness.
Mere proclamations cannot be positive as nothing positive was done to make them. They are empty.
Anonymous No.4473312 [Report] >>4473427
Funny thread.
I had a panic attack the other night about me being mediocre at photography, just as I am at everything else.
But it wasn’t about becoming famous through art, but about feeling content with a body of work of mine.
So many writers have said it before, you do it because you have to, not to achieve fame.
I’ll post a photo since OP didn't have the balls to do it.
Anonymous No.4473314 [Report] >>4473366
Wait a min. 37 replies and not one photo. Neither from Op who claims he’s gonna make it nor from anyone giving advice
Anonymous No.4473366 [Report] >>4473420
>>4473314
Posting photos to a thread about photographic ambition?
>>4471298
Here's a recent example of nonsense.
(Its rather impossible to predict what one gets. The secret for this kind of "art" is just take a lot of snaps.)
Anonymous No.4473390 [Report] >>4473875
>>4473019
>anon is convinced more than one person can't possibly disagree with him again
Not that anon, anon. Your attitude is simply shit and knowing you in real life is likely a form of judge-appointed community service.
Anonymous No.4473420 [Report] >>4473429
>>4473366
>Posting photos to a thread about photographic ambition?
Yes?
Normally it's a good thing to post your own photos on pee in general, but when talking about ambitions it's even more relevant
Anonymous No.4473427 [Report] >>4473436
>>4473312
its shit nothing. wow you got some old nobody in focus. good job. no one will care except his old ass wife. even his kids wouldnt care. u suck
Anonymous No.4473429 [Report]
>>4473420
I have no problem with that cause I don't have ambition or shame. And appears I'm losing my fear too while getting older and more senile.
(Snap related to another hobby.)
Anonymous No.4473436 [Report]
>>4473427
Gr8b8m8
Anonymous No.4473875 [Report] >>4473929
>>4473390
Do you really think that anonymity protects you from being identified by the way you structure your retarded responses?
This is not sharty, nor /b/.
You are the only dumb fuck ITT who posts like that.
And what a coward you are.
At least try to engage the ideas presented, show how practical advices and reasonable, positive mindset is somehow "doomerist" or makes me a bad person.
Come on.
Anonymous No.4473876 [Report] >>4473889 >>4473902
Nice no-photo thread.
Anonymous No.4473889 [Report]
>>4473876
At least there's a subject
Anonymous No.4473902 [Report]
>>4473876
Wdym? I posted 2 photos even.
Anonymous No.4473929 [Report] >>4473995
>>4473875
Lmao you're still convinced I'm samefagging. Didn't read. Seek help.

Wait wait, let me try being a schizo as well
>Clearly your use of run-on sentences means your the same anon I disagreed with from a thread 7 months ago.
Anonymous No.4473995 [Report]
>>4473929
schizo post tee bee haitch
Anonymous No.4478787 [Report]
>>4471250 (OP)
Most of what youre after happens by chance or mistake. you cant force it it backfires everytime. only way to force it is with shit loads of money and rich parents. as for the rest of us. patience.