Thread 4478978

Have you ever paid for a workshop by a photographer? They cost like $2000 just to have them critique your photographs for a few minutes.

It's a grift.

>>4478980
yep

>>4478978 (OP)
Other side: I see a pro get paid for workshops.
Client I know from my work is a birder who has been in Nat Geo a few times and is routinely in a bunch of Aussie photo mags. He's currently is on "holiday" with his wife and a client of his up in Queensland. The client is paying $5000 for a week of shadowing the dude around while he teaches him shit and they hunt rarer birds. That $5000 covers the trip, his and his wifes' spending while there, and he said he'll still come back with several grand for a week of work after everything.

I think most of what he teaches his clients is how to find specific birds and the paitence to find a good shot. He goes over technique and stuff as well from what I understand but I was flabbergasted when he told me how much he charges; not that I don't think he's not worth it, but that I'm pretty sure I could get 80% of the way with individual research and practice.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure you browse this board Martin. I want to see pics when you get back.

>>4478978 (OP)
wut no
I paid once because It was my first time in a studio setting, and the dude explained lighting techniques and such, and some model directions practice. But just paying for someone to tell me that my photos suck? I have /p/ for that

I did a bit of digging around for online portrait workshops of photographers I like the images of and I felt that you don't get much for what you pay for. Most were about 2 hours, so I don't know how much useful info they could cram in that timespan. Though I am a beginner who is waiting on his first dslr to arrive so I clearly don't know what I am talking about

>>4478985
Follow your gut instinct

>>4478986
You mean follow my instinct in choosing the right workshop or composing the shots? Because if you mean the first one I will end up broke really fast lmao

>>4478987
Most of photography is instincts rather than you putting your personality into the shot.

>>4478978 (OP)
Look for photowalk groups. Not everyone in it will be a pro, but the combined knowledge of all the hobbyist equates to something akin to a workshop.

>>4479002
this is also fun and you might see some ass

>>4478978 (OP)
If you want something really really specific than workshop might be good but personally I believe that there is nothing much a photographer can teach you which you can't learn by studying the work of greats like a text book. More often than not these workshops are networking events so again if you want something very specific than go for it otherwise it would be a waste of money.

>just to have them critique your photographs for a few minutes.
Maybe you should try portfolio reviews if you want critique.

>>4478983
And I think most of what his clients get out of his sessions is not to spend money on retarded workshops

>>4478978 (OP)
Yes, I went to University after tech school, so I had like two solid years of electives. Took one or two photo classes each semester and paid $1500 per class. Worth every penny though, the professors were as fucking brutal as you wanted them to be, so if you had no ego to defend, you could learn an absolute fucking load, and not just of basic technical knowledge but of the perspective that comes from combined decades of experience they had between them. The photo lab was a goddamn hot box of knowledge of every kind of thing you could ever want to do in photography. I miss it.

Paying some youtuber, no.

>>4478978 (OP)
If you can't do, teach. I think you'll learn more actually going out and shooting. Join a photography group and join them on their outings, comparing what you did vs what they did is great. There's also the benefit of realizing what you missed.

>>4479118
>If you can't do, teach. I think you'll learn more actually going out and shooting
That is the perspective of a person who has no fucking idea how much there is to know about this extremely technical subject or the value of a team of people with entire careers of experience behind them there to share it with you.

Why study engineering, people who teach engineering must all be failures, that's why they're teachurds duhhhh! I think you'll learn more about physics by going out and buiding your own LHC in your backyard hurr durrr'

From the fuckin culture of no-expertise having goddamn morons.

>>4479123
Whatever helps you justify your purchase, anon.

>>4479123
Fair point but if someone is paying $2000 for a few minute critique that sounds like a scam. A lot of "workshops" are probably like that unlike an actual class in science or math. Anyone have that chosis meme image?

>>4478978 (OP)
Fuck no. Just watch YouTube tutorials, that's better than any workshop.

>>4479158
Sure thing, Tony