>America was founded on immigration

What do you say to that?

>literally the same savages who we met 500 years sacrificing virgin are today doing exactly the same thing

it was also founded by people with ten fingers and two ears. so what?

America was founded and built by colonists and conquerors.
By the time any noticeable number of immigrants started coming, everything was already built and estblished, all the immigrants did was hop in the saddle that was set up for them. Until 1965, immigration was extremely restricted.

>>507040337 (OP)
so what you're say is... americans are all mutts

>>507040337 (OP)
Immigration destroyed the Native American nations. The illegal immigrants genocided the native population and put them on reservations, and they now account for less than 1% of the population.

Is that what you want to happen? Two wrongs to make a right? Is that your whole argument? Could it be that you actually don't care about illegal immigrants, but you actually just hate White people and want to massacre us?

I mean, if it was all about "help them get a better life", wouldn't you focus on helping the Americans who are already here and living in poverty, before adding more needy people to the broken system?

>>507040337 (OP)
I mean it literally was.
There's no way for cuckservatives to actually oppose immigration without taking a racialist position and absolutely none of them are brave enough to do that.

The same "immigration isn't colonisation" rebuttable that's been ignored since pilpul was invented

>>507040337 (OP)
Colonization*

>>507040337 (OP)
>What do you say to that?
Native Americans were genocided by illegal immigrants.

>>507040772
>just get fired for your beliefs bro
we cant all start grifts like juden peterson

>>507040337 (OP)
It was also founded with slaves so maybe we should roll that back too

>>507040907
Cool, then get replaced with brown people

The American Indian tribes and cultures were destroyed by mass immigration.

>>507040690

>>507040337 (OP)
America was founded on revolution & war.
Not immigration.

>>507040991
this isnt an appropriate response you snake devil wicked fool

>>507041093
My cum is in that mug

>>507041093
>>507041134
not like this, chudbros...

>>507040337 (OP)
America founded by white people for white people who were fed up with the other white people they were living in a country with

>>507040567
Objectively false. USA is big country

>>507040337 (OP)
Colonists didn't "immigrate", they colonized. Colonization is closer to conquest than it is to "immigration". No Brit assimilated into cherokee culture.

>>507040567
the union opened the doors to ANY immigrant getting free citizenship AND land IF they were alive after the civil war. 1/3 of union casualties were non-americans and the union required about 400% more people to win the war. immigrants are the reason the north won the civil war, america sold out a LONG time ago bud. we were locking up newspaper editors in the late 1700s for not fluffing certain presidential candidates

USA has never been anything but a new way to fuck humans over, never stood for shit

of white people

It was founded on white immigration

>>507040337 (OP)
YIKES DR PHIL VAXX STATUS

>>507040337 (OP)

america rise was due to being a white nation, anything else is leftard horseshit

>>507040337 (OP)
Yes, legal immigration of people who adapted to the country and had an actual life here. Not people who come here illegally, view themselves permanently as citizens of their old country, and funnel money out of this country to support beaners somewhere else.

>>507041058
They were quite busy doing that to themselves before we showed up. There were less than a million "native" American's across the entire continent of the US and Canada back then....and its largely cause they'd spent a good few centuries killing each other off before we even got here.
They were not a peace loving people that lived in harmony with "the land" its the biggest bunch of bullshit ever sold. The motherfuckers that had to survive up north were the fuckers that even the Azteca didn't want down at the equator. The tribes that grew from those dregs were not peaceful gentle people. It was fucking COLD up here in those times, people living here were the people that had gotten the equivalence of deported back in that era of history....it was called exile...and thats if they didn't just kill you and chop your body into pieces as a sacrifice.
You really think American Indian tribes were somehow good people? Or descended from noble savages in some way? That's rich...they're all the descendants of people that the civilizations of that era didn't want anywhere near them.

>>507041093
Reminder that African-Americans don't even have voting rights in Mexico. Once USA turns into Mexico, you will be right back on the plantation, my brotha.

True. I just hate brown people.

>>507040337 (OP)
It wasn't. It was colonization. Totally different. We didn't see the Native Americans and their non-existant civilization and think "Yeah, we want to be part of that" and immigrate there. We saw the land they were sitting on had much more untapped potential and thought "we should kill these savages and make something of this place" which we did.

We didn't immigrate. We emigrated from Europe to colonize "the new world."

And the land wasn't stolen either. It was conquered. Another big difference. They fought, and they lost.

White immigration

America was founded on slavery but we don't do that anymore.

>>507040690
There's more indians alive today then when white people first got to north America you can't sustain a large population without farming and few Indians did

>>507040337 (OP)
I mean it is similar to cities, new cities grow rapidly and then there is some kind of stagnation. Basically stuff is saturated, kinda similar to why burgers with useless degrees earn 100k a year for answering emails.

>>507041232
Wokies’ new talking point….

When white people go where nonwhites live= colonization.
When nonwhites go where whites live=migration

America was founded as a multi-cultural ethnostate

>>507041753
I mean basically people argue principles when in fact the situation is more complex. You can also say well why do we have boarders anyway in the first place.

>>507041588
>and by plantation, i mean latina wombs

https://streamable.com/8268ns

>>507040337 (OP)
America was conquered, if you truly love a nation and its people you wouldn't want to see it conquered.

>>507041892
Them tiddies dont look natural.

>>507040337 (OP)
The purpose was to create a country, not emigrate to an already existing one that had rule of law etc, completely different things, brainlets just don't get it :)

>>507040337 (OP)
What if immigrants claim half of your country is theirs!?

>>507041630
>>507041870
Watch as these posts go ignored by brownoids. What replies they get will equate to impotent namecalling.

>>507041890
I mean on a more "fringe" tanget here you could also say "oh why dont you give away all your belongings and donate everything to the 3rd world."

Even if leftists would be braindead enough to do that it still would be a net negative for global process because then our societies would stop functioning.

>>507040337 (OP)
TRUE but WHITE immigration, browns only know how to destroy

>>507040337 (OP)
America has been deporting illegal immigrants since 1794.

Ike deported 1 million, back when the U.S. population was less than half of today.

>>507042131
I saw a sign today that said "oh well you can pick your own fruits for 5$ dollars an hour" that is like saying "oh well slavery is fine now i guess because we be progressive".
It is unethical just like breast reductions.

>>507042351
I think you mean "Immoral."
Breast reductions are immoral.

>>507042433
No, unethical, because there is this medical ethos to do no harm. That is the difference between ethics and morals. Morals are what we deem right or wrong and ethics are more like standards.

white

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and

we

outlawed

nonwhites

from

immigrating

then we let women vote and they said lets let in the subhuman hut dwelling savages because theyre so cute!

>>507042604
You, sir, are a homosexual.

>>507042606
I mean the fucking leftists complain about minorities being so disadvantaged all the time, why the fuck would the "native" population have an interest in not being the majority.
But then again immigration is ok, AS LONG AS IT IS IN SOME CONTROLLED MANNER.

>>507042741
huehue

>>507041252
>Immigrants are the reason the north won
Right not the south being cut in two

>>507040337 (OP)
White immigration. It's White people or it's a shithole, that's the next bit of rhetoric we have to normalize

>>507040337 (OP)
We’re a nation of settlers, colonists and conquerors, not immigrants

>>507043245
You haven't even normalized civic nationalism yet.

>>507041599
This. Everyone on here needs to stop playing into the leftists gay little Jewish games. We’re racist, so what? This is a matter of survival. They’re the enemy and our mistake was allowing them to live amongst us, destroying our cultures.

>>507040337 (OP)
And a family is founded on the marriage of husband and wife. There's such a thing as too many of something.

It was founded by religious settlers. It was conquered by an empire which normal people overthrew so that well educated and thoughtful men could establish the American government with the intention that it would never become what britain was.
Immigration happened, people came to America and helped build the nation, but it was 2nd and 3rd generation Americans that planned and executed the building of infrastructure.
Immigrants started at the bottom and had to except the conceits of American citizenship, they had to participate in the American experience.

This is no longer the case. Picking fruits, selling tacos out of a truck, gaining 200lbs and putting 5 children through the free education system has never been done until the 50s.

>>507041232
that's a narrow point of view. Once current US territory was colonized people from all around Europe kept immigrating. From different nations. And in WW1 and 2 which is what made the US a superpower, the US also brought in a shitton of foreign immigrants to do scientific breakthroughs and create big businesses of today.
That's a reason why Americans still view themselves as French, Italian, Swedish and so on even when they were born in the US

>>507041106
/thread

>>507043401
Because you're appealing to a "we" that doesn't exist the same way the communists do. The vast majority of white people don't agree with you, and all anyone on here does is cope that they suddenly will in two weeks.

>>507041599
Checked. Me too.

>>507040337 (OP)
>It was founded
YES AND NOW THE FOUNDING IS OVER
SO FUCK OFF

>>507043597
Why does it matter that x number of people disagree? All that matters is who succeeds

>>507040337 (OP)
It was also founded on slavery so we should bring that back too I guess.

>>507043401
It's so strange to have people incapable of comprehending that moderation is the default, not gluttony.

1) It's a settler nation, a branch of British civilization and a nation of colonists, not an immigrant nation. Colonization = / = immigration. There wasn't anything to immigrate to when the English arrived at Plymouth Rock, they came with next to nothing and had to build up the nation from the ground up.

These assholes think they were slung out their mother's cunt one day and when they grew up, these white settled nations like the U.S.A. and South Africa were just always there, in actual fact they had to be built over generations with gruelling hard work. Everybody takes the existence of these (at least at one time) safe and prosperous nations and societies for granted, as if God or the aliens put them there. These places were built from nothing with hands by white people.

So, no, it's not an immigrant nation and especially not in the sense that a bunch of disparate groups of brown retards came together to create anything of worth.

2) When they did start letting in immigrants, the country was already established and it was part of a congressional law that those immigrants be exclusively white. At some time in the 20th century (even before the 1965 immigration act) this began to change as you-know-who started to agitate to diversify the country, and unfortunately, it worked. White Americans bought the pernicious "nation of immigrants" melting pot canard and didn't fight hard enough to stop the incoming horde of nonwhite, non-European migrants completely unlike them. What you get is the modern American state. This is what "America is a nation of immigrants" ideology leads to, a collapsing nation full of disparate and unalike groups of people forming enclaves and parallel societies all vying for dominance of the civic space.

>>507040337 (OP)
>Dr Phil dies while Piers blabbers on about his upcoming crossover episode with The Pengest Munch

>>507040337 (OP)
Immigration
Genocide
Forced relocation
Disease
Scamming
Warfare


I'm good

>>507043723
Do you have nukes or a PMC?

>>507040337 (OP)
The British produced a high-quality society.
The Mexicans never have, and never will.

Shitskins produce shit societies. Fuck 'em.

>>507040337 (OP)
Ask the native americans how that turned out for them.

>>507044079
Keep pushing. You lot have already caused reactionary movements to grow and enter into main stream. Please keep agitating the whiteman

>>507044264
I'll take that as a no

>>507044394
Just keep pushing shit skin

>>507040337 (OP)
America was founded on the fact that British ideals should be allowed to exist away from the Crown and Parliament bullshit. This is why most of the US amendment was based on the British Bill of Rights of 1689 including the second amendment funny enough.

>>507040337 (OP)
Where do you draw the line? Are we going to have this discussion forever then?

>>507044604
Sir, where is your hate speech license

Americans don't really care what anyone else thinks. I mean if your ways were better you'd be on top and the sole superpower but your not because you all suck and are jealous because of your dirty tiny countries that are weak with no power. Also blindfold yourself and play in traffic if your countries can even afford cars.

>>507043375
normiecon talking point is no third world immigration now, soon it will be Whites Only. kys nigger

>IMMIGRANTS HAVE COME TO AMERICA!
>that means you should have unlimited 3rd world illegal migration

>>507041851
>Nooooo they didn't take, they ASSIMILATED
Who is woke here you retard? You're self-censoring because you don't want to sound offensive

Brits landed on empty land and they claimed it. Then they explored and saw more land and they claimed it. Indians felt conquered and fought back and lost.

Conquest is how most of the world has been colonized. Do you think Israel (which is not going anywhere) just became Jewish? You are the cuck for not admitting the land was colonized.

Colonized does not mean conquest, but it is closer to conquest than migration. Equating the colonizers to Mexicans who want gibs is insulting.

>>507040337 (OP)
>posting out of date broadcasters and journalists
No one under fifty cares FYI and also you're fat lmfao

>>507040337 (OP)
america was founded on conquering wild land and being superior (weaklings did not survive the extremely harsh conditions), not coming into a ready table and demanding gibs

>>507040337 (OP)
Fuck off. We're full.

>>507045281
>Colonizers settled in America
>That means Mexican colonizers can settle in America
When you use clear language, you reject their proposition instantly. Just because (You) colonized, doesn't mean someone else has the right to colonize you. The instinct to fight back kicks in.

Don't call Americans "immigrants". They didn't immigrate to Cherokee land. They explored and colonized. Astronauts exploring Mars, building colonies and encountering hostile, unknown life, fighting against it and winning, are not immigrants.

>>507044604
>>507044699
oi mates! have you got a loicense to post here? show me or be rooty-tooty-point-and-shooty'd

>>507040337 (OP)
Immigration from where?

>>507040337 (OP)
America was founded on killing anglos
>pic rel

>>507041278
>>507041382
>>507041495
>>507042152
>>507043245
All correct
Immigration from where
/thread wrap it up, boys

>>507045281
anglos created the third world
>pic rel

>>507040337 (OP)
>pier Morgan
Opinion discarded

>>507040337 (OP)
>>America was founded on immigration
Actually we had a revolution

>>507046046
actually no spain and france created the third world

>>507046133
Revolutions are anti-America, see pic rel

>>507040337 (OP)
On white immigration, on people with the similar culture, traditions, genetics

>>507040337 (OP)
It didn't work out too well for the Indians.

>>507043749
This. Goddamn why are the bri’ish so fucking retarded.

I say this :
Do you know how the Jews first came into being? They were White once, taken by the dark powers, tortured and mutilated. A ruined and terrible form of life

>>507046284
>doesn't know the immigration before the Inca's Translatio Imperii
Well, you anglos are not known for being good readers :^3

>>507040337 (OP)
settlers =/= immigrants

>>507040690
You have a retarded level of understanding on the history of this country. You should be deported for being so stupid.

>>507046471
Your people immigrated into America

>>507040337 (OP)
It was founded on colonization and greed, so if immigrants want to take America back they better send their armies.

>>507040337 (OP)
We were founded by settlers

Immigration implies a country was already here and that is not the case

Nothing was here

That's the difference

White people go places and make it livable

Brown/black people go places and make it unlivable

>>507046521
America was founded by Hispanics in 1493 AD, then affirmed in later juridic documents.

>>507040337 (OP)
America the country was founded by people born here. It was further populated by legal immigrants. Illegals contribute nothing, take everything, lower wages, increase housing prices. Get rid of them and get rid of any politician who supports illegal behavior.

>>507046597
Hispanics founded it first

>>507040337 (OP)
The land was free for claim. They didn't have a government or laws and as such they had no legal claim on the land and no immigration policy. If you like to walk by a plot of unincorporated land and sometimes have a picnic there then someone goes through the legal channels to purchase it and build a house on it they didn't steal that land from you, it was never yours to begin with. That's the problem with not having a society or laws. When White the modern world showed up they were told this land has no owner. Land that has no owner is up for grabs. Once they realized they were fucking stupid they spent the rest of their lives crying about how White people should've treated them like kindergarteners on tutorial mode instead of grown adults like every non-White insists we should in all things.

>>507040337 (OP)
>Immigrants who built civilization from the wilds are the same as juan and juanita who subsist on welfare and dont pay taxes, while stealing our wealth and transferring it to their country

>>507040337 (OP)
America was founded and built by WHITE EUROPEANS OF GOOD MORAL CHARACTER
That immigration is very different than opening the flood gates to every subhuman on the planet.

>>507042606
>We let women vote

What does women voting have to do with the 1965 immigration law?

Did women specifically vote for it?

If so who gave them the option to vote for it?

>>507040337 (OP)
White people improve society, non-White people destroy society.

>>507040337 (OP)
so are we colonizers or immigrants?

>>507046819
>blah blah blah
America was built by killing anglos

>>507046816
You are on stolen land, Hispanics can do whatever they want.
>pic rel

>>507046688
1. I'm talking about the founding of the country known as the US as the OP was referencing
2. Spaniards were white
3. That land was then given by treaty of Guadalupe for us BTFO the Spanish

Cmon rabbi twist words some more

>>507045734
The difference between what colonizers did and the Mexicans are doing today is America wasn't an established nation with borders and a bill of sale from the invading country unlike right now.

>>507046878
parasites and invaders

>>507040337 (OP)
It was founded on White immigration.

And?
My house is occupied by people walking through the front door. Me in fact. Doesn’t me you can.
You are not making a point by saying things like that you are just wasting peoples time because YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY. You’re just a cunt.

>>507046984
1) I'm talking about the founding of America
2) pic rel
3) Mexico was created by anglos to give themselves STOLEN LAND

>>507047018
>scientific racism
it's not wrong

>>507040337 (OP)
>America was founded on immigration
And slavery, don't forget that part because that's the purpose of these immigrants, to be the slave caste.

>>507047025
America was founded on killing anglos

>>507047018
lol wernt the spanish literally called conquistadors? jeez i wonder what that word could possibly mean in english.

>>507047145
but your people have failed to do anything good for humanity, your people are responsible for all the suffering and death which humanity endures during the last 200 years

Seething latin-x

>>507040337 (OP)
White immigration yes.

>>507040337 (OP)
Settlers aren't immigrants. When people first go to mars they won't be immigrating to mars.

>>507047422
>he doesnt know

>>507040337 (OP)
Mostly white people. The biggest boon this country had economically was when we were importing thousands of german and slavic engineers and scientists. Our great decline coincides with the shift in immigration policy to favoring illiterate somalians.

>>507040337 (OP)

>>507040337 (OP)
It was founded on conquest and I'm tired of pretending it's not. And we fucking won. And we never should have stopped. America vs everybody else bring it cucks!!!

>>507040337 (OP)
From where?

>>507040337 (OP)
My family line is traced to multiple different waves of settlers who came from not only bongistan but also other countries colonies. Saying we are a country of immigrants is a Jewish lie and undermines the last actual men who lived in this country. By accepting a grain of the lie that we are a country of immigrants you poison the dish of the country which is what jews are best at doing. And I refuse to ever say we are a country of immigrants in my life.

>>507040337 (OP)
>America was founded on immigration
this is a stupid argument because it is an entirely different kind of immigration (a time when the country desperately needed people vs a time when it doesn't)

however staying on that topic, i do in fact support immigration because it aids the economy in the long haul.
Over the course of a lifetime people produce more value than they take from the system, so it literally is just always better to have more people in your country.

It is however true that it does put pressure on low skill manual labour jobs initially (the first few decades) & it increases crime rates initially as well but those will eventually go down as those immigrants integrate & become consumers of manual labour not just producers. So it sucks for those who work in that industry but its better for the country in the long term.

>>507040337 (OP)
Its incredibly easy to answer:

It was founded and built on european immigration, not 3rd world non white immigration

Of course, cuckservatives would never have the spine to actually say this

>>507047324
>failed to do anything good for humanity,
we invented flushing toilets spicoid
your clay pots are cool and stuff but it's just not IT is it

>>507040337 (OP)
So what?

>>507040337 (OP)
yeah i agree we should have white immigration exclusively just like the foundation of the country

>>507047298
Conquistadors, like the 200,000 mesoamericans and 400 Africans/Iberians/Tainos against the Aztecs?

This is the difference between anglos and humans:

The first africans brought by DEMONIC anglos into America were SLAVES (they were tortured by the anglos, humiliated every day, and killed painfully in a demonic ritual of protestantism).

The first Africans brought by the ANGELIC Hispanics into America were CONQUISTADORS!

>>507047324
Suffering and death is a part of life and always has been. It's white altruism that made you believe otherwise. Without that, you'd be content in your mudhut, fighting malaria and neighboring tribes somewhere.

>>507047500
we're talking about America, not US
>pic rel

>>507040337 (OP)
>founded on immigration of white europeans. not finishing the sentence is disingenuous, and if you weren't trying to intentionally mislead me, then I have to say Piers - you're a fucking COMPLETE idiot. your attempt to equate the industrious white europeans who built this country and the philosophy which it is based on with brown mongrels that haven't learned anything despite our example, you can simply go fuck yourself.

>>507047766
The Hispanic Empire already had a system for piping and drainage. All cities did.

>>507040337 (OP)
America was founded on the blood and sweat of conquest, settlement and pioneering. There were no safety nets or social welfare. Nothing was established and built. Modern immigration is easy street and these ungrateful immigrants are reaping the benefits while shitting on our culture and society.

>>507040337 (OP)
the founding fathers were not immigrants. they were conquerors. they came here and TOOK OVER. only subhumans can be "immigrants". white people are conquerors. If prarie-niggers felt so strongly about US soil, they should have fought harder. maybe they should have invented guns and artillery instead of stopping at the bow and arrow. maybe they should have developed military/battle strategy beyond burn/loot/rape/massacre other villages. dumb fucks. america was not built by or founded by immigrants. it was CONQORED by actual humans. the subhumans were just staying on the land until we got there. maybe they should pay us back-rent for using the land for so many thousands of years.

>>507047905
>we gave shitskin savages christianity
but not indoor plumbing

>>507040337 (OP)
*from Europe

>>507047905
spanish colonizers larping as indigenous is peak delusion

>>507047999
>hispanic
cope made up meaningless word they are west indians in the west indies (the americas)

>>507040337 (OP)
No it wasn't it was founded on the deal, agreement, and cohesive society built by the union of native Americans and White Europeans

>>507041252
>1/3 of union casualties were non-americans
interesting way to phrase this. Perhaps you can tell us where they came from

>>507047999
>Hispanic Empire
Kek wtf is this?

>>507048006
>the blood and sweat of conquest, settlement and pioneering
you arrived with guns and shot a bunch of spear wielding natives, then killed the rest with disease. the land they'd kept pristine for 10,000 years was then raped, the animals wiped to near extinction, and temples to jewish consumerism built in their place. your national parks are shrinking and the population of niggers that you brought along to actually sweat and build the nation is booming, but it's ok, because your belief in a jewish rabbi and the end time apocalypse is rising. at best, your ancestors were glorified administrators. at worst, they were full blown deranged kikes.

Fact-check: Out of the 17 leading " US founding fathers", 15 were born in British America and 2 (Robert Morris, James Wilson) in Britain

>>507040337 (OP)
Yeah, legal immigration. White immigration. We got rid of the non whites here for a reason. Cause they were retarded savages

>>507048375
Spoken like the true spawn of cowards, too scared to leave their little island. You disgust me.

>>507040337 (OP)

It's like autism for retards.

Was. It is a nation today. It has citizens paying taxes for social security and passports and greencards. Illegals are criminals. They're undermining every lawful citizen illegally. Crime occurs in higher statistics everywhere illegals vagrant.

Outside from all of this, it's California with one of the biggest water problems on the Planet where every person depletes water causing wildfire. At what point is it causing greater disaster?

America in any argument is not a role model. A model where mass migration is a lesson in extinction of locality and wildlife and resources. It has caused numerous extinction from mass migration.

Why on Earth would a retard claim that title? You'd have to be dumb, autistic, prone to bouts of ludicrous insanity with frothing dribble foaming out your brain and wearing your underpants on your head.

Mass migration is a lesson in disaster. The fall of countless nations and Empires. Extinction of numerous species. The cause of countless wars.

Only today there are those who ignore history and faster repeat it.

>>507048375
>the animals wiped to near extinction
Guess who wiped them out?
Indians did for liquor, black powder and lead.
You can't exactly have a country when half of it is a roaming stampede of buffalo. The buffalo were replaced by domesticated bovine (cows)
Beaver are exploding in population here and need to be killed in higher numbers or they will completely fuck the landscape and everything we've built.
Don't act all high and mighty. Your country's land has been completely domesticated for much longer.

>>507047888
ONLY Hispanics, from Huallpa Rimichi Inca to Antonio de Mendoza, worked tirelessly to adorn America with their constructions which benefited the ONE HOLY AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Suffering was practically non-existent in America, and Hispanics were set on curing death from humanity... at least preventable death.

It's thanks to HISPANICS, and HISPANICS ALONE, that humans have houses throughout the planet. The anglos are guilty of homelessness and poverty!!

It's thanks to HISPANICS, and HISPANICS ALONE, that malaria was cured in the Andes!!!! It was Spaniards like the Kallawaya tribe that discovered how to cure malaria more than a 1,000 years ago.

It's thanks to HISPANICS, and HISPANICS ALONE, that the idea of WORLD PEACE was created and ACHIEVED!!! The Hispanic project of CHRISTIAN WORLD PEACE.

LONG LIVE THE HISPANIC EMPIRE!!!
LONG LIVE SAINT ISABEL!!
LONG LIVE THE VIRGIN OF GUADALUPE!!

>>507048240
Ireland.
Germany

>>507040337 (OP)
I'd say wrong. America was founded on genocide, slavery, colonialism. You can't compare that with honest immigrants coming for work.

>>507048104
>spanish colonizers
The Hispanic Empire had ZERO colonies... it had kingdoms (like Portugal and Peru).

>muh gold
Only 20% in taxes, today people pay 40% in taxes. Also, most of that 20% in America stayed to create the BEST universities and hospitals... not to mention the roads that connect Alaska and Patagonia.

TODAY, anglos are GUILTY that a person who is born in Patagonia or Alaska cannot go freely between those two places... or anywhere else in America for that matter!!!

>>507048375
>the land they'd kept pristine for 10,000 years was then raped

The land you live on was also kept pristine before you shit all over it. Do you spend your time tearing down your own home?

>>507048122
>made up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_Monarchy_(political_entity)

What did Queen Isabel said about Americans in 1493? Oh right, that they were her subjects (Hispanics).

>>507048375
This has to be a fucking Indian still insecure about the fact the west was able to spread to the Americas and surpass their absolute shithole country. Despite India having a massive time advantage against Western countries.

>>507040337 (OP)
It was founded on commerce, not immigration. We began as the Virginia Company that sought to get rich off the new world.

But anon, the USA has already been founded. You don't need to found it again.

>>507040337 (OP)
White men of good character.

>>507048231
Americans and Hispanics... all Americans became Spaniards, and all Spaniards became American.

>>507048953

You've wiped out everything to critical and extinction everything else. Entire species gone. Entire demographics gone.

Meanwhile you have the most violent crime ridden cities on the Planet.

Mass migration caused the civil war. Pretty much every war since.

But at least you bring disaster. You're like harbingers of it. Somehow you've deluded the rest of the Planet it's worth it. When it in fact has brought another tipping point

>>507040337 (OP)
It quite literally was not. Everyone in the colonies that revolted was born and raised in the colonies.

>>507040337 (OP)
It's 2025, and you're watching Dr. Phil with Piers Morgan on Youtube.

Idiocracy has truly arrived.

>>507048332
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_Monarchy_(political_entity)

The Empire created by the Hispanic Monarchy, and articulated by friar Francisco de Ugalde as "the empire where the sun never sets."

>>507048006
Hispanics did all the good thing in humanity...

>>507048509
anglos arrived illegally, they didn't have permission from Hispanics

>>507041252
A freemasonic meme republic, one of many. There are over 170 of these judeo-masonic republics. The US is basically France 2.0, before they established DC their headquarters were in Paris.
You can see this entity hop their headquarters from London to Rome to Paris to Madrid to Constantinople, etc.

>>507040337 (OP)
True but irrelevant.
It's like saying you have no right to keep strangers out of your home since your family hasn't lived there since forever.

>>507050303
we need to retake Constantinople from the muslims, after we retake America from the anglos

>>507040337 (OP)
I say fuck you

>>507040337 (OP)
I thought it was built by slaves?
Also they really want to blur the lines between immigrants and illegals don’t they

>>507040337 (OP)
We're full.

>>507040337 (OP)
>1pbtid
Lots of those lately.

>>507050494
go back to england, anchor baby

>>507040337 (OP)
>>America was founded by white men
Fixed

"Was" in the past, that is, you answered your question.

>>507040337 (OP)
fuck you Orpha for the give of dr phil that piece of shit bald mf

>>507040583
Always have been

>>507050581
>25 posts by this id

lol

dumb seething little mestizo monkey, ook ook

>>507047616
This is the one, but bots, feds, discord trannies will ignore it.

>>507040337 (OP)
That is a true fact

>>507050657
not anglos, that's for sure
>pic rel

>>507050657
>Spanish
>White
Pick one

>>507040772
They are racist alright just towards white people.

>>507050741
I'm an hispanist and I'm tired of getting called a fascist just because I know the truth of the VOID CENTURY.

>>507040772
>There's no way for cuckservatives to actually oppose immigration without taking a racialist position and absolutely none of them are brave enough to do that.
See, this is an honest take and the correct approach to stop the immigration but as you said none of them have the balls to do it

Show me the nigger or Mexican in this

>>507050927
>randos with no connection to historic America
here

>>507050837
Spanish didn't found America anglos did

>>507050741
Its probably a kike
a lot of posts in this thread have a jewish nature to the way they post

it was founded as a white country. incontestable, multiculturalism does not work. they will never assimilate like europeans did. there will never be peace.

>>507050993
You suck at debating. Stick to scrubbing toilets and landscaping.

>>507051094
Yes, they did, FOUR TIMES in 1493 AD
>pic rel

What now, anglokike?

>>507040337 (OP)
More people died in Gaza and are still dying than during the complete genocide of the native Americans. Both are bad, but why don't we focus on the present instead of the past.

>>507051115
America was founded by Hispanics for Hispanics in 1493 AD.

>>507040337 (OP)
>1PBTID OP
Bot thread.

>>507051179
>waaah you're suppose to lose, otherwise you don't know how to debate
LOL, I've been running around you people in circles throughout this thread.

This is the power of learning about the VOID CENTURY.

>>507040337 (OP)
Every business operates at a loss to start.

From Europe

>>507051401
They didn't do shit with it

>>507040337 (OP)
No, it was founded on kicking out brown people by force.

>>507051776
>implying

>>507051946
*killing anglos

>>507052140
You are a pathetic browncel who's butthurt over the prospect of seeing your people get kicked out. I'm only going to say this once: You're not fooling anyone.

>>507040337 (OP)
Legal immigration - yes
Border crossing monstrosities - no

>>507052082
Oooooh boy one little church versus Anglos building civilization especially the Germans you can thank the Germans for pretty much every modern thing we use

Can someone tell me what happens to the people who actually legally migrate to the US?

>>507040337 (OP)
Immigration from where? What color were they and what traditions and principles did they have?

>>507040583
>>507050698
Only nonwhites say "mutt". Get out of White countries.

>>507052234
*Hispanics

The theory of computers goes to Llull's logical machines, and the theory of hard drives goes to the the Inca quipus. CENTURIES before the INVENTIO of AMERICA.

>>507040337 (OP)
Who the fuck is this creep and why should anyone care about what his opinion is about anything?

Can somebody get Ja Rule on the phone?

>>507040337 (OP)
The US was founded as a colonial state. The US has a negative historical trend of importing foreigners in large numbers for the sake of enthralling the immigrants as a slave caste. The Irish were originally employed as maids, cooks, janitorial staff, etc. Same shit as the Latinos. And then the Irish took complete control of certain regions by brutally murdering their competition in a wave of mafia violence. It doesn't make the trend of importing profligate masses into indentured servitude a positive institutional trend. It also means people like Gavin Newsom may end up with a Mexican flag shoved up their asses.

>>507052462
You need to lay off the crack pedro

>>507040337 (OP)
missing a very important word in that statement

>>507052612
>The US was founded as a colonial state.
no the usa has never been a colony

>>507040337 (OP)
america was founded on violence by immigrants against natives...to this very day

>>507052700
Yes, but the predecessor to the US was a colony. That's what I meant. And then in its independence it was established as a state specifically for and of those who had taken part in the revolution.
>>507052875
The native Americans ultimately deserved most of what they got.

>>507052628
>can't refute anything posted

>>507052929
>but the predecessor to the US was a colony.
no thats fantasy fiction and american propaganda
the usa has never been a colony
they teach americans that the 13 colonies is american history but it's not it's english history
american history begins in 1776

>>507053367
USA is the enemy of America

>>507052140
Both sides are golems. Protestantism has led to pro-LTBT Christianity and the death of all spirituality in western nations replaced by scientific materialism due to the weakness of the faith and standards. Catholicism destroyed our ancient indigenous pagan culture and likewise allowed kikes into the upper establishment due to usury being disallowed for everyone but not kikes, which led to the destruction of Russia & Poland, and the same kikes entrenched in the upper echelons of Western Europe are fostering our demographic suicide, but it’s okay “race doesn’t exist, we are all equal and made in God’s image and just forgive, turn the other cheek, treat others like you want to be treated”. Etc etc etc

The only religions worthy of respect are the ones that out RACE first. Which are: any strand of Folkish Paganism, Modern Christian Identity, Creativity (Klassen), Cosmotheism (Pierce), Esoteric Hitlerism (Devi, Serrano), or even your own unique syncretic esoteric paradigm as long as race comes first. Pure atheism or any mainstream Abrahamic faith dues not qualify.

I refuse to debate the philosophy of which is “right for people” or “the truth” in my view there is no universal spiritual truth for all. Spirituality is intrinsic to a healthy psyche and society (Jung has some great essays illustrating this) but it MUST not leave race behind.

>>507040337 (OP)
Which of the founding fathers was Mexican?

>>507053603
This lol

>>507052409
Never was white

>>507040337 (OP)
America has always had immigration: there is not enough genetic diversity on Mayflower to build an empire. the problem is not legal vs illegal, it is white vs non-white.

>>507053603
Mexico was created by anglos to plunder Hispanics and kill them.

>>507040337 (OP)
The right kind of immigrants. Non-whites have to go back.

>>507053911
America was founded by Hispanics at the exclusion of the rest of Europe.

>>507040337 (OP)
and look how things turned out for the native population. almost seems like unrestricted immigration is de facto genocide

>>507040337 (OP)
>immigration
of whites
retard
if all immigration INTO western nation was white people then no one would care about immigration.
its only a problem because non whites from 3rd world shitholes are for some (((reason))) are allowed into western nations under the guise of "asylum" or "refugee"
as if we should give a fuck about that.

>>507054586
the anglos (your "people") created the third world
>pic rel

>>507040337 (OP)
>what do you say to that?

Repeating what some liberal white lady told you in school when you were 8 and gullible isn't an argument

>>507040337 (OP)
False, it was founded on settlers

>>507040337 (OP)
White European Christians of good character

>>507040337 (OP)
most of those immgrants were white. now they are niggers. big difference retard

>>507055574
*Hispanics, like the Incas and Habsburgs

America was founded by crazed religious nuts, speculators and slavers this is like first grade history

>>507040337 (OP)
>Yeah...

>>507047795
Skyscrapers have foundations that include elements like piles (long shafts of concrete or steel driven deep into the ground). Even though the rest of the skyscraper still uses concrete and steel, it doesn't require any piles!

So much like the immigrants who helped build this country — what was foundational at one stage may no longer be necessary.

>>507056132
America was founded by Hispanics.

America was founded on kicking ass and taking names. Don't lose next time loser.

Founded by white immigrants so OK if all immigrants are white I'd be at least partially more OK with it

>>507055947
Founded by American settlers

>>507040337 (OP)
I say that it was actually founded on conquest and domination by unstoppable white men who violently subjugated every non-white with ease, and I'd be happy to return to that foundation if that's what they want.

>>507040337 (OP)
White European immigration yes, should have stayed that way.

>>507041990
>Mehmet from Berlin
>posting tranny shit
Checks out. Kys.

>>507046639
It doesn't matter who found what first. The only thing that matters is who is the strongest to conquer it and hold it.

>>507040337 (OP)
What indian country did the settlers immigrate into? Oh yeah, that didn't happen, they did their namesake, create settlements and everthing from nothing out of wilderness.

>>507040337 (OP)
fuck off

Someone who says that also believes that the Indians were practically genocided. So it would stand by their logic that modern mass immigration is invasion and potentially genocide of the current population

>>507040337 (OP)
No, this country was founded by people who were getting tired of paying taxes to a bunch of corrupt faggots The immigrants came after those people built a country.

>>507054811
>created
so?
i also create shit and then put it in to my toilet and flush it away.
i dont shit on the living room floor.

>>507040567
dumbass.
they(we) opened the door to eastern europeans in 1850 and it even got McKinley assassinated by some EU kike