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Anonymous ID: ivqfNAvBCanada
6/12/2025, 9:47:35 AM No.507077629
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Why isn't atheism cool anymore?
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Anonymous ID: DaoHyLCnCanada
6/12/2025, 9:49:35 AM No.507077714
>>507077629 (OP)
More people than ever before feel hopeless and worthless and you can only be a mad faggot about religion for so lon before you miss the feeling of community.
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Anonymous ID: QOJZMcpgFrance
6/12/2025, 9:49:59 AM No.507077729
>>507077629 (OP)
Because they won and their ideas got normalized. It's not cool if everyone does it.
Dave ID: aQvHeQKjCzech Republic
6/12/2025, 9:52:03 AM No.507077815
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>>507077629 (OP)
>Why isn't atheism cool anymore?

Keep coping christcucks.

You still live in 2012 cringe subreddit atheist shit... Meanwhile you were exposed for slimy cucks you are long long time ago
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Anonymous ID: 06ciLHixUnited States
6/12/2025, 9:54:13 AM No.507077891
>>507077629 (OP)
I am not an atheist because it is cool, I am an atheist because I believe all gods are mythologies
Dave ID: aQvHeQKjCzech Republic
6/12/2025, 9:55:30 AM No.507077948
Every smart Christian I've ever met admitted it just works for them no matter the truth and I think it's fair if you want to believe and it helps you in your life.

Atheists don't hate you or are Satan's spawn. And I think Americans especially should realise that.
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Anonymous ID: O6lj4+sYUnited States
6/12/2025, 9:56:24 AM No.507077988
The timeless truth that there has never been an atheist civilization. Everyone knows deep down that atheism turns people into purple haired demons who murder babies and believe in any (im)morality sold to them by their masters.
Prince Evropa ID: /EXK0ZO9United States
6/12/2025, 9:59:49 AM No.507078127
>>507077629 (OP)
Atheists become atheists because they're retards who think they're smart and therefore special. Everyone is atheist now. If everyone is special then no one is special. It's driven by narcissism and it defeats itself. It is self-defeating.
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Anonymous ID: 4P9kUpFXUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:00:12 AM No.507078147
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>>507077629 (OP)
Because believing in Jewish folklore and worshiping a magic Jew is now counter culture.
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Anonymous ID: Qm8mR7nXSpain
6/12/2025, 10:01:00 AM No.507078175
>>507077629 (OP)
Atheists lost their state-enforced monopoly on education and academia because of the Internet and can't indoctrinate the youth fast enough into discount nihilism and consumerism.
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:02:22 AM No.507078228
Because they're idiots and it's all about ego with an atheist.
They don't care about logic or truth.
Otherwise they'd admit that even if God wasn't real it would be more comforting to believe in a God than no God so faith should be cultivated for mental health.
They think their shit don't stink basically.
No need for self improvement because the atheist is above it all.
Just don't check the suicide rates.
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Anonymous ID: mesqAORJDenmark
6/12/2025, 10:03:52 AM No.507078283
>>507077629 (OP)
Pendulum swung the other way. Now it’s trendy to larp as a christian
Anonymous ID: xc9D1C1PIndia
6/12/2025, 10:04:56 AM No.507078331
>>507077629 (OP)
it's bananas man
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:05:15 AM No.507078349
>>507077629 (OP)
Cool or not. I lack belief in God or gods
Anonymous ID: orJ7CjffUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:05:33 AM No.507078362
>>507077629 (OP)
Atheists ruined it
Anonymous ID: Wgo2NTwF
6/12/2025, 10:06:25 AM No.507078394
>>507077629 (OP)
It never was. Cool implies some kind of social admiration, but most people believe in god. Atheists were always the weirdos.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:06:29 AM No.507078398
>>507078127
>It's driven by
A disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods
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Anonymous ID: NH1VXONMPoland
6/12/2025, 10:07:14 AM No.507078429
>>507077629 (OP)
Because people realize they off themselves more often
Anonymous ID: NnK5KwzuGermany
6/12/2025, 10:08:26 AM No.507078475
>>507077629 (OP)
Swords and axes arent magic spells gandalf.
Anonymous ID: V249rTko
6/12/2025, 10:09:00 AM No.507078496
>>507077629 (OP)
It is though! Haven't you seen the BASED and REDPILLED antisemitic chuds on /pol/ recently?
They're unshackled by slave morality and hate Jesus!
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:09:52 AM No.507078525
>>507078398
"God isn't real" is a statement troll.
Atheists try this trick to weasel out of their FAITH that there is no God.
Because all atheists are ego driven.
They demand you think of them as more logical even when what they believe is illogical.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:10:50 AM No.507078555
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>>507078228
>even if God wasn't real it would be more comforting to believe in a God than no God
Troon logic
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Anonymous ID: NH1VXONMPoland
6/12/2025, 10:11:02 AM No.507078560
>>507078398
>it's driven by disbelief
And what drives disbelief, Anon? Five minutes on this board should tell you that all beliefs and disbelieves are ultimately driven by our innate desires.
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:11:32 AM No.507078583
>>507078555
Enjoy your 20% higher risk of suicide.
I'll stick to my superior lifestyle.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:13:23 AM No.507078647
>>507078525
>"God isn't real" is a statement troll.
Learn what lack of belief implies
>Atheists try this trick to weasel out of their FAITH that there is no God
I don't use faith like you do. Instead it's called reasonable expectations. And there's no reasonable explanation for me to believe in God.
>They demand you think of them as more logical even when what they believe is illogical.
This is some nonsense you've come up with because you had your feelings hurt by an atheist lol
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:14:00 AM No.507078673
>>507078560
>And what drives disbelief, Anon?
Lack of evidence to convince enough to believe
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:14:31 AM No.507078689
>>507078583
>Enjoy your 20% higher risk of suicide
Not my problem. I enjoy my life
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Anonymous ID: Q0Z7w+zmIsrael
6/12/2025, 10:14:45 AM No.507078697
The fruits of atheism
Divorce, trivializing of marriage, family and community. No standards. Egomania, disenchantment of sex and love, de-sanctification and outright defilement of sex and decoupling of sex from love and procreation, decoupling of social and familial bonds. hollowed out Metaphysycal framework of materialism, uncaring and without purpose. Blurring the lines between men and women, youth and adult, innocent and wicked, native and invader, moral and immoral.
It was the final concession before we all became Nitchean, believing that truth is what power says it is.
It means women will work like men and men will be treated as women while everything around us smelling of ancient wisdom is dissolving and social decay is celebrated
You can just look at the arts
You can just look at what is done in private by the 'elites' (spirit cooking etc)

I was brought up atheist, I don't miss it
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:15:12 AM No.507078713
>>507078583
>I'll stick to my superior lifestyle.
>>507078525
>Because all atheists are ego driven
These clowns always accuse you of what they do
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Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 10:15:40 AM No.507078732
>>507077629 (OP)
It never was.
Anonymous ID: 6TH6SjP/United States
6/12/2025, 10:15:46 AM No.507078737
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jewish shill tactics changed, atheism isnt in anymore. we gotta get these little goys to sign up for the marines and protect the holy land again
Anonymous ID: q5Ds31ciEstonia
6/12/2025, 10:15:57 AM No.507078742
>>507077714
Also the banana can fill the void for just a finite amount of time.
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:15:58 AM No.507078744
>>507078647
Thank you for sharing your faith with me.

>>507078689
For now.

>>507078713
Oh, you don't think being less likely to commit suicide is superior?
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Anonymous ID: e7+//4boUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:16:21 AM No.507078761
>>507077714
>community
Christians always wax on about community but most of (You) fuckers would have been burned at the stake back when society was really Christian.
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Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 10:17:16 AM No.507078802
>>507077948
Atheists do hate goodness and truth tho. The whole point of atheism is hatred and rejection of God, which is to say, hatred and rejection of Creation. Even if you don't admit it to yourself. The "nuh uh its just a disbelief in God" just doesn't ring true anymore, not after seeing what Atheists are like all my life.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:17:42 AM No.507078816
>>507078744
>Thank you for sharing your reasonable expectations with me.
You're welcome :^)
>>507078744
>For now.
For a long time bud
>>507078744
>Oh, you don't think being less likely to commit suicide is superior?
I don't think about suicide at all. Sounds like a you problem
Anonymous ID: rTO95r/PUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:18:05 AM No.507078835
>>507078697
Thats really cool. Im sorry, though, but it doesnt have anything to do with proof of your antiwhite kike religion
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:18:37 AM No.507078850
>>507078802
>Atheists do hate goodness and truth tho
Not at all
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Anonymous ID: 7bEUT6u4
6/12/2025, 10:18:40 AM No.507078854
>>507077629 (OP)
Hedonism and individualism get tiring fast. Its why most hippie boomers became conservative. It can be fun for a few years, ten years if youre lucky but it gets boring man
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:18:44 AM No.507078858
>>507078835
>antiwhite kike religion
You mean atheism?
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Anonymous ID: uskSjnqICanada
6/12/2025, 10:19:00 AM No.507078867
>>507077629 (OP)
Because they tried forcing feminism into it and fractured the community they'd been cultivating. Atheism + they called it. Despite making fun of Christians who said no true Christian believes X they said no true atheist isnt a feminist but thats literally nothing to do with atheism.

Ignore the bullshit astroturfed hyper Christian idiots it's just jidf and glowies trying to divide us and keep us from doing anything like old times. Theyre full of shit anyway atheism is statistically on the rise anywhere thst isn't taking a massive influx of muslims. It's one of the reasons jews want to replace us so badly the control method they've been building is failing so whites have to go.
Anonymous ID: VYSL1Nk3United States
6/12/2025, 10:19:04 AM No.507078872
>>507077629 (OP)
Banana
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:19:51 AM No.507078894
>>507078858
Whites are more atheist per capita than Christians lol
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Anonymous ID: Q0Z7w+zmIsrael
6/12/2025, 10:20:29 AM No.507078919
>>507078835
Did you just try to pull a pilpul?
Im embarrassed for you
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:20:54 AM No.507078929
>>507078894
Yeah, there are a lot of antiwhite whites, they're almost always atheists.
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Anonymous ID: lSy5SC4qUnited Kingdom
6/12/2025, 10:21:01 AM No.507078933
>>507077629 (OP)
it was a psyop, and one of the first things the kikes set about doing once the internet went mainstream. Of course, they can't promote such ideas now because brown people are everywhere
Anonymous ID: Gu8IJI3MUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:21:04 AM No.507078938
its the religious version of trust the science and well we see how good that worked out
Anonymous ID: V249rTko
6/12/2025, 10:21:35 AM No.507078949
>>507078689
>I enjoy my life
So long as you don't run out of objects to put in your ass.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:21:45 AM No.507078959
>>507078929
>antiwhite whites
Not my problem :^)
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Anonymous ID: IgSOUahUUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:21:48 AM No.507078962
>>507077629 (OP)
they can’t criticize Muslims or Jews
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:22:17 AM No.507078983
>>507078949
Speaking from experience I see
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6/12/2025, 10:22:18 AM No.507078987
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>>507077629 (OP)
>Why isn't atheism cool anymore?
It gave nothing to its proponents. It's empty, devoid of culture, symbology and all other forms of intellectual human necessities.
It's just "nothing matters", there are no "gods", and "philosophy is useless".
It was cool back in the 2010s because it was a counter-culture movement. But then suicides were on the rise and many just went back to their fucking churches or became agnostic. It was a western phenomena, and it showed.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:23:42 AM No.507079040
>>507078987
>It's just "nothing matters"
Not for me. A lot matters. Just not God
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:23:46 AM No.507079043
>>507078959
>I'm not like the other girls *bats eyelashes*
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Anonymous ID: rTO95r/PUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:24:02 AM No.507079057
>>507078858
My bad, i thought kikes were letting the niggers in and christians were kissing their feet upon entry. Let me know how im wrong, thanks!
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Anonymous ID: mesqAORJDenmark
6/12/2025, 10:24:10 AM No.507079064
>>507078394
>most people believe in God
Entire Scandinavia don’t believe in a god. You would be made fun of here, if you said you did
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:24:19 AM No.507079071
>>507079043
Whatever cope helps you get by
Anonymous ID: NH1VXONMPoland
6/12/2025, 10:24:35 AM No.507079082
>>507078673
>Lack of evidence to convince enough to believe
Try again or call yourselves an agnostic. As an atheist, you don't follow the proper scientific approach where conflicting theories (God exists, God does not exist) are weighted by evidence and held to be just as valid when you cannot prove or disprove either.
You have already decided what you want to believe in, regardless of insufficient evidence in any direction. You just shy away from telling us why you do stick to the answer that is statistically tied to higher depression and suicide rates.
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Anonymous ID: DHCxuV3EUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:24:39 AM No.507079085
>>507077629 (OP)
The atheist thinkers and leaders refused to say anything bad about Jews and were punished for what little they did say, so the atheism movement transformed into antisemitism. Just like how it was fighting against scientology as chantology before it was the atheism movement.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:25:37 AM No.507079122
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>>507079082
>Try again or call yourselves an agnostic
Agnostic atheist to be exact
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Anonymous ID: rTO95r/PUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:25:42 AM No.507079124
>>507078919
Sorry, but I dont know what a pilpull is and im not very interested with talking to a kike who uses internet terms. See this post please: >>507079057
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:26:30 AM No.507079148
>>507079057
Christians (normal humans) can be fooled but many of them are not retarded about race.
However the shit libs of the world are almost universally atheist.
The fact you can't address this is proof of what people say about atheists.
You hate the truth and run from it.
You hate what is good.
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Anonymous ID: u0qpWTJEUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:26:45 AM No.507079154
>>507077629 (OP)
It never was
Anonymous ID: Q0Z7w+zmIsrael
6/12/2025, 10:28:28 AM No.507079218
>>507079124
The feeling is mutual
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:28:34 AM No.507079224
>>507079148
>Christians (normal humans) can be fooled
Kek just look how many divisions there are in Christianity lmao
>>507079148
>You hate my truth
>You hate what I think is good.
Ftfy
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Anonymous ID: AgkZKSbLGermany
6/12/2025, 10:28:42 AM No.507079231
>>507078147
literally me but i dont do it on purpose
being a contrarian is weird
Anonymous ID: rTO95r/PUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:29:23 AM No.507079255
>>507079148
Im sure atheists can be fooled like christians can. This is not a revelatory fact to me. Athiests kiss nigger feet because theyre stupid. Christians kiss nigger feet because theyre commanded to. Thats a large difference.
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Anonymous ID: rTO95r/PUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:29:54 AM No.507079271
>>507079218
Im not a kike so its not mutual, kike
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:30:44 AM No.507079299
>>507079224
Thank you for proving my point.
You can't even handle my true statement so you have to edit it and turn it into a lie.
It's how your brain works.
Constant cope and seethe mode.

>>507079255
They're doing it more often per capita.
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Anonymous ID: Q0Z7w+zmIsrael
6/12/2025, 10:30:46 AM No.507079302
>>507079271
Shut the fuck up you absolute waste of oxygen
Anonymous ID: NH1VXONMPoland
6/12/2025, 10:31:31 AM No.507079329
>>507079122
>let me just say I lean between 51%-99% there is no God and I won't introspect myself further
You lack conviction, including the scientific one. Don't cite evidence or lack of it as what drives you anymore.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:32:25 AM No.507079358
>>507079299
>Thank you for proving my point
You never made one lol
Just emotional whinging
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6/12/2025, 10:32:44 AM No.507079372
>>507078147
Daily webm threads would all be dead babies if pro-life became the normie culture
Anonymous ID: nOlwmBNsCanada
6/12/2025, 10:32:57 AM No.507079386
>>507077629 (OP)
no longer the alleged counter culture it once was. NPCs gotta pick something to pretend its the new counter culture
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:33:08 AM No.507079390
>>507079329
>and I won't introspect myself further
All you goons do is strawman
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6/12/2025, 10:33:21 AM No.507079396
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>>507077629 (OP)
Religion is one of the unifying force that can keep a society together.The other two are patriotism for empires and larger multiethnic countries and nationalism for nation states, which is the most powerful out of the three but hardest to implement in scale.
The progressives/libtards/globohomo tried to deconstructs all of the three and replace them with their own slop.
So, instead of waving your national flag and celebrating battles and wars your people fought and remembering the great men of your history they wants you to wave the fag flag and celebrate hohosexuality.Instead of believing in christ they want to to believe in the suffering of niggers like George Floyd.
So, instead of believing in religion+patriotism/nationalism they want you to believe in their multicultural slop religion but it doesn't work and people realizing it by now.
It is artificial,cringe and retarded and can't compete with other states that have the traditional unifying package.This is why China and even fucking Russia is outcompeting the west.Our leaders are getting aware of this and are pulling back some of the globohomo nonsense to try to regain some patriotism and unity(the sign tappers are right) but its too late and nobody is buying it anymore.
Anonymous ID: 9HLWLFcNUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:33:30 AM No.507079399
>>507078987
perfectly encapsulate the religious mind
athiesm doesn't answer life's big questions.. and what you can draw from it can be very, very defeating.. very nihilistic.
but that is just the way things are.

some people will embrace the idea that 'we are space stuff' but that only lasts so long.. and your not left with much in the end. i wish i was religious.. i really do. but its a load of bullshit. and im not going to eat shit just to feel better about things
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:33:51 AM No.507079411
>>507079122
Atheists stole the word agnostic from the man who created the term.
Agnostic means without knowing or knowledge.
That's a reasonable position and is not atheism.
Atheism is an affirmative statement of disbelief.
Theism is an affirmative statement of belief.
Atheist pilpul from 2006 or so isn't cutting the mustard anymore.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:36:15 AM No.507079506
>>507079399
>athiesm doesn't answer life's big questions
Correct. It's just a lack of belief in God or gods
>>507079411
>Atheists stole the word agnostic from the man who created the term.
Nah, for anyone with critical thinking would know gnostic and agnostic are branches in both theism and atheism

>>507079411
>Atheism is an affirmative statement of disbelief
That would be gnostic atheism >>507079411
>Theism is an affirmative statement of belief
That would be gnostic theism
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Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 10:36:22 AM No.507079510
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>>507078850
I clearly said "not after seeing what Atheists are like all my life". That means your opinion on the matter is meaningless. By their fruits ye shall know them, and the fruit of atheism are dysfunction, degeneracy, malice, evil and despair. Also, being a namefag on 4chan is a sign of severe mental illness. You're not doing your cause any good, acting the way you are here. But that's now what you're after, is it?
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Anonymous ID: vT+fTvLfUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:36:45 AM No.507079520
>>507078228
But the goal isn’t comfort or the truth or community or any of that. The goal is aligning as closely to the factual physical truth as possible, no matter what the consequences are
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:37:13 AM No.507079537
>>507079506
Nope.
You either believe in God.
Believe there's no God.
Or you don't know if there's a God or not.

No one is Gnostic when it comes to God because it's not provable objectively
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:37:26 AM No.507079545
>>507079510
>I clearly said "not after seeing what Atheists are like all my life
You're welcome to your personal feelings and anecdotes
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:38:00 AM No.507079570
>>507079520
Why? Truth is subjective.
It can be whatever you want it to be.
Reality is just the story you tell yourself and if you tell yourself a depressing story you become 20% more likely to an hero.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:39:01 AM No.507079603
>>507079537
>Nope
Yup
>>507079537
>ou either believe in God.
>Believe there's no God.
>Or you don't know if there's a God or not.
There are many definitions and meanings for "God". But you're so ine dimensional that you only speak from the perspective of your favorite flavor of god
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Anonymous ID: gFMOnBm5Portugal
6/12/2025, 10:39:47 AM No.507079627
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>>507079040
>Just not God
And I understand why.
Western Judaeo-christian god is...well...a ridiculous concept when you think about it. At least some forms of hinduism make more sense when it comes to scientific ideas (such as the cyclical destruction and "creation" of the universe).

I believe there is a primordial mind that, for example, organized reality's laws, such as physics or thermodynamics. It is somewhat impersonal.

I also believe our minds are a "copy" of such primordial mind.

I understand why atheists would discredit the biblical god, it's a ridiculous concept.
Believing in a fat jewish old man in the sky munching on foreskins in destructive to humanity's future.

You do you bro. Hope your atheism brings you as much solace as my spirituality brings me.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:39:54 AM No.507079631
>>507079570
>Why? Truth is subjective
You're confusing truth with God. God is subjective truth isn't
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:40:49 AM No.507079660
>>507079627
>There are many definitions and meanings for "God". But you're so ine dimensional that you only speak from the perspective of your favorite flavor of god
Thank you for proving my point anon.
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Anonymous ID: JvLlIR7rUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:41:00 AM No.507079670
>>507079627
Dumb esl poster
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:41:07 AM No.507079672
>>507079603
An intelligent and honest person (not an atheist) would know by God I mean any God or pantheon of gods.

Face it, atheists are done.
We all know what you are now.
Seen it for decades.
Some decent ones but most atheists are just young men on ego trips who don't care about what's true, they just want to feel special.
Replies: >>507079721
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:42:24 AM No.507079721
>>507079672
>would know by God I mean any God or pantheon of gods.
Again, more subjective nonsense
>more emotional babble follows
Kek
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Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 10:43:03 AM No.507079749
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>>507079545
What I see of you vermin is far more factual and logical than any of your little arguments, bub. You cause evil and despair, therefore you are evil. The actions of Atheists universally bear rotten fruit, and frankly, just your vibe is off. You say one thing, but act another way. You say you don't care about God, that you just don't believe in him, and then you spend hours upon hours talking about how you don't believe in him. You say you are good people regardless of your lack of faith, but everything you espouse, everything you do leads to more suffering and despair not just to yourself, but to everyone unfortunate enough to be around you. This sort of lack of coherence gives off a certain smell, its impossible to ignore.

You stink of hypocrisy and malice. I don't think dialogue with you is even possible, you are incapable of debating in good faith, not unless you repent. That is always an option, of course. But somehow, I doubt someone like you ever will.
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Anonymous ID: iXfBTQ1IItaly
6/12/2025, 10:43:10 AM No.507079753
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>>507077629 (OP)
>movement about how every religion is stupid and wrong
>only attack Christianity
>simp for kikes and muzzies
>adopt le "science" as your dogma
>trans women are women, white supremacy le bad, and all the other tard stuff

It's braindead, I used to be one of them, when you research religion as a whole you understand that it advanced civilization more than the damage that it does to it

Christ is King
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:43:16 AM No.507079757
>>507079721
Yes, I'm overly emotional, not you....see you in the next 10 or so religiously themed threads lol
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Anonymous ID: erMCe2Y1Poland
6/12/2025, 10:43:34 AM No.507079769
because atheists are one of most uncool people ever. Imagine redditors or SCIENCE worshippers
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:43:49 AM No.507079775
>>507079749
>What I see
I dont care.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:44:25 AM No.507079794
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>>507079757
>Yes, I'm overly emotional
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Anonymous ID: Q0Z7w+zmIsrael
6/12/2025, 10:45:49 AM No.507079837
>>507079399
I would recommend a deep dive into greek mythology, it is soaked with their values and world view. For someone from today, things will pop up spontaneously. I say this because you will notice both the value and power of mythology, but also how the reveared values of the ancient Greece are different than the later Christian ones
I believe it will inevitably shine a light on the empty basket that is modernity.
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:46:08 AM No.507079847
>>507079794
I know you know what I'm saying.
You LIVE for religious themed threads.
This is your emotional crutch, trying to get any little bit of justification for your shit tier beliefs.
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Anonymous ID: 775gcxD+United States
6/12/2025, 10:46:31 AM No.507079859
Fedoras never go out of style
Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 10:47:05 AM No.507079890
>>507079520
Your understanding of what Truth is is laughably childish, btw. See, its a question of axioms. Yours stem from physicalism, materialism. Which, to anyone who actually knows what they're talking about, is laughably naive. Fifth grader level understanding of the world. "Factual, physical truth" is an oxymoron, a term with no real meaning.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:47:05 AM No.507079891
>>507079847
>I know you know what I'm saying
A bunch of emotional whining
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Anonymous ID: vT+fTvLfUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:47:06 AM No.507079892
>>507079570
No, reality is objective. It has nothing to do with your ego and would still exist even if you didn’t. Now, it may be impossible to know the entirety of the objective truth, but that is another matter. Also, when I use the word ‘truth’ I am using it in as anti-philosophically as I possibly can. When I say ‘truth’ I don’t mean ‘this way of thinking is correct’ I mean ‘this way of thinking objectively exists physically as the electrochemical signals between the neurons in the brains that are thinking of them’
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Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 10:47:48 AM No.507079907
>>507079775
And yet you're still here, still preaching your gospel. You do care, bub, far more than anyone else here.
Replies: >>507079977
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:48:30 AM No.507079939
>>507079890
>Yours stem from physicalism, materialism.
So does yours you just pretend it doesn't
Anonymous ID: 785fn/6+United States
6/12/2025, 10:48:36 AM No.507079941
>>507077629 (OP)
Because it's so goddamn Jewish
Anonymous ID: Y2kfHucOUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:48:36 AM No.507079943
>>507077629 (OP)
Autism isn’t a thing anymore. Anyone that declares a universal fact when they’ve only been exposed to .0000000000000000000000000000001% (to save space but carry the point) of the universe, is full blown spectrum or desperate for attention.

The odds are actually against the atheism pov. Red pill yourself.
Anonymous ID: gFMOnBm5Portugal
6/12/2025, 10:48:54 AM No.507079953
>>507079660
I'm just saying that an anthropomorphic god is a ridiculous concept, more in line with allegory than with reality itself.
I see the universe and its order as “god” in and of themselves, though the word god often brings anthropomorphic ideas to mind.

Spinoza, Voltaire, and even Einstein held similar views, so I don’t see how this connects to the biblical god.

To me, seeing this reality as a mere accident makes no sense. Why should you be right? Why should you be the Prometheus of truth? You're no different from dogmatic Christians, just as rigid, just as self-assured.

I guess I now understand why most people find atheists insufferable.
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Anonymous ID: cFybt2ZFGermany
6/12/2025, 10:48:54 AM No.507079954
>>507077629 (OP)
It's their way telling men to got back to the plantation. If you want to have a wife who "loves" you, you must be a god obedient man and marry some thot with a bodycount of 5 or more and work hard to pay taxes, so that this man hating society can keep on going. This time they are just using religion.
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:48:56 AM No.507079956
>>507079891
lol ok, I'm going to stop bullying you because it's getting cruel on my part.
I'll pray for you without consent.

>>507079892
Very short sighted and not true.
You could be a Boltzman brain.
This could be a simulation.
This could be a dream.
etc etc
Subjective truth is all there is and as long as you don't get delusional (contradicting reality) you can believe anything you want.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:49:18 AM No.507079977
>>507079907
>And yet you're still here
I enjoy the arguments. :^)
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:50:06 AM No.507080012
>>507079953
>I'm just saying that an anthropomorphic god is a ridiculous concept, more in line with allegory than with reality itself
I agree
Anonymous ID: kAmLCMv+France
6/12/2025, 10:50:34 AM No.507080033
>>507077629 (OP)
Atheism as we know it today is just praising fake and gay s-o-y-ence, that is believing religious myths like germ theory, evolution, dinos, moon landings... And it's inherently Marxist today, with egalitarian, antifascist (aka anti-Aryan), tranny beliefs.

The low-IQ who can feel something is wrong went back to their church to meet generally healthier and more sane people that the average "atheist". The high-IQ realized Abrahamism is the enemy of all mankind, just as Marxism is (both are entirely jewish), and they became Pagans for practical reasons. The only ones who keep calling themselves atheists proudly are the irrational midwits who worship s-o-y-ence and think our ancestors were nigger monkeys proving the evil nazis wrong. The agnostics are just "neutral" cowards atheists who just want to keep a seat in heaven in case the dick-mutilating yahweh is actually correct.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:50:57 AM No.507080050
>>507079956
>I'll pray for you without consent.
That's nice but you won't.
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Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 10:51:06 AM No.507080055
>>507079953
They really are. The smug self-assuredness, the hypocrisy, the closed-mindedness. It's all very grating.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:51:50 AM No.507080084
>>507080055
>The smug self-assuredness, the hypocrisy, the closed-mindedness
You accuse others of whst you do
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:51:58 AM No.507080087
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>>507080050
Just did.
God has heard my request that he soothe your buttsore.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:52:25 AM No.507080108
>>507080087
>Just did.
(X)
Anonymous ID: vT+fTvLfUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:52:30 AM No.507080113
>>507079956
>You could be a Boltzman brain.
>This could be a simulation.
>This could be a dream

Which would still mean I existed physically, just not in form I thought, but rather in whatever form would lead to those situations. Whether or not I could ever actually know that is besides the point, one of those situations would be the actual one.
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Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 10:53:36 AM No.507080158
>>507080084
Oh, and they always say that, too. Bbs first projection loop, lol. Like children on a playground going "no u" in circles.

You're not a serious person, btw. I mean, that was obvious from the namefagging. You're not "arguing" here either, you're just masturbating.
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Anonymous ID: mesqAORJDenmark
6/12/2025, 10:53:36 AM No.507080159
>>507079753
Doesn’t matter how much it advanced civilization back then, it’s still just larp today. Neo christians today are just like trannies, it’s all about the attention
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:54:22 AM No.507080187
>>507080113
You sure?
If you can't pin down one who's to say it's not a quantum superposition of all things.
You could be me for all you know.
Point is, objective truth is unknowable.
Closest you can get is like "This object is 5 inches long according to this ruler."
That's why philosophy and such exist.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:55:50 AM No.507080234
>>507080158
>goes on to prove me right
You're the type of person where I give you enough rope and watch as you hang yourself
>>507080187
>objective truth is unknowable
2+2=4. Is that not objectively true?
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Anonymous ID: vT+fTvLfUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:56:47 AM No.507080278
>>507080187
Whether or not objective truth is knowable is completely irrelevant to whether or not it exists.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:57:29 AM No.507080293
>>507080278
Exactly this
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Anonymous ID: mesqAORJDenmark
6/12/2025, 10:57:40 AM No.507080297
>>507080158
Crying this much top kek
Anonymous ID: gFMOnBm5Portugal
6/12/2025, 10:57:50 AM No.507080307
>>507080055
I don't get it. I was trying to be nice and shit kek

At the end of the day, we're all looking for some sort of truth here.

We still don't know what is out there in the universe, our human knowledge is so insignificant compared to the cosmos itself...fuck, we don't even know what's under our deepest oceans.
One could even say our past as a species is a mystery as well.

I don't claim to be right, I claimed the structure of reality and the universe points, in my opinion, to something intelligent behind it. If Spinoza, Voltaire and Einstein (specially Einstein) saw it, I don't think I should feel bad about it.

No need to act in such an arrogant way, as if his truth is superior. It reminds me so much of fundamentalist christians...
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Anonymous ID: hE78ZlLUAustralia
6/12/2025, 10:58:16 AM No.507080324
>>507078583
>worship jews or you'll kill yourself
Another kike worshiper displaying zero understanding of statistics.
Anonymous ID: lZWM8pgsFinland
6/12/2025, 10:58:40 AM No.507080334
>>507079510
There is no cause, none of that matters. God isn't real. If every atheist was retarded, degenerate, and evil, God still wouldn't be real. The only thing that would make God real would be him showing up in the real world, which isn't happening.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 10:58:52 AM No.507080340
>>507080307
I completely agree with you
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Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 10:59:16 AM No.507080357
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>>507080234
You just did it again.

Atheists are mentally 5 year old, can't be reasoned with, never debate in good faith, and really deserve nothing but scorn. I guarantee you're fat. You sound fat and grimy. You're not winning anything here, you're pushing people further and further away from your way of thinking. Anyone seeing what you are will try to distance himself as far as humanly possible from your faggotry and lameness.
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 10:59:43 AM No.507080376
>>507080278
>>507080293
Faith.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:00:36 AM No.507080403
>>507080357
>You just did it again.
Let me know when you can make an actual argument rather than constant strawman and ad homs
Anonymous ID: NnK5KwzuGermany
6/12/2025, 11:00:41 AM No.507080410
>>507077629 (OP)
I got the magic out.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:01:15 AM No.507080432
>>507080376
Means to be believe absent logic and reason
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Anonymous ID: jtqTABi4Canada
6/12/2025, 11:01:19 AM No.507080436
>>507078127
No, I'm atheist because I just don't believe in god(s), now keep seething, and coping over that fact, it's quite entertaining.
Replies: >>507082003
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:02:54 AM No.507080494
>>507080432
Yeah.
You believe in objective reality without evidence.
That's faith.
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Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 11:03:16 AM No.507080508
>>507080334
Making declarative statements is not really an argument.
"God isn't real"
ok bub. I've heard all the atheist arguments, btw, every single one. And I rejected them all, on various grounds. But nowadays, I just default to: you're just too fucking lame to be correct. Too lame, cringe and gay. The truth is beautiful, you lot are ugly, within and without. Simple.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:04:18 AM No.507080544
>>507080494
>You believe in objective reality without evidence.
Well gee, if its objective then there's no need for evidence lol.
Replies: >>507080617
Anonymous ID: OIuArge1Estonia
6/12/2025, 11:04:44 AM No.507080566
>>507077629 (OP)
Atheism isn't cool because of Joe Rogan. People think his church propaganda is new but in reality he has talked about pychedelics and meeting the elf gods for 20 years. For 20 years he has propagated there is indeed something in higher scope than ourselves. And I agree, though I disagree with the retarded elf part, while greater than men, probably not gods. I subscribe to the berserkian definition. I think the language of god is psychology because we're all tiny pieces of god, thus to know god we must know each other, communicate, be part of society. The language of the physical is math, used to describe real world phenomena. And the language of the unseen is music, waves that affect everything in every way. And TJ Kirk realized it too, he calls it the chaos.
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Anonymous ID: vT+fTvLfUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:04:49 AM No.507080568
>>507080376
How is it faith to say, essentially, that some situation exists? That’s all I’m saying. It could be anything, any combination of belief systems or multiverses or simulations or quantum states or literally anything. But whatever it is, it is. That ‘thing’ whatever it is exists, or otherwise none of us could be here discussing it.
Replies: >>507080660
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:05:37 AM No.507080599
>>507080508
>I've heard all the atheist arguments, btw, every single one. And I rejected them all, on various grounds
Cool. None of us are demanding you believe kek
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Anonymous ID: vT+fTvLfUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:05:40 AM No.507080600
>>507080494
The evidence for objective reality is that any sort of reality exists at all.
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Anonymous ID: gFMOnBm5Portugal
6/12/2025, 11:05:54 AM No.507080606
>>507080340
HAHA! Got ya'! I was a fundamentalist christian all along!
You really thought I was intellectually ready to understand Voltaire or Spinoza? Never read anything asides from my KJ Bible!
God is a man! God is white! And he will come mounted on a horse to kill all atheists and fags!
Fooled ya' didn't I?
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Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:06:13 AM No.507080617
>>507080544
Prove objective reality exists.
You'll have just as much as a problem as someone proving God exists.
You can't prove this isn't a dream or a dream in a simulation or a dream in a simulation of a dream.
So you just take it on faith.
Can't say I relate but whatever, you do you.
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Anonymous ID: iXfBTQ1IItaly
6/12/2025, 11:06:43 AM No.507080641
>>507080159
You can make that argument for everything and everyone.
At least Christian larpers are part of a sane community
Anonymous ID: rTO95r/PUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:06:57 AM No.507080649
>>507080566
>joe rogan
>no proof of god post
Shut up faggot
Replies: >>507080861
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:07:11 AM No.507080660
>>507080568
>>507080600
Prove objective reality isn't identical to subjective reality and that objective reality isn't a projection of the mind.
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Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:08:20 AM No.507080712
>>507080606
>Fooled ya' didn't I?
Kek, I appreciate the troll attempt
>>507080617
>Prove objective reality exists
You just did
>>507080617
>So you just take it on reasonable expectations
Much different than faith
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Anonymous ID: Q0Z7w+zmIsrael
6/12/2025, 11:08:25 AM No.507080713
>>507080606
Kek
Anonymous ID: 96WnFS8JAustralia
6/12/2025, 11:08:40 AM No.507080721
>>507079148
>worshipping a jew
>normal
Lol
Anonymous ID: vT+fTvLfUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:09:50 AM No.507080771
>>507080660
I don’t need to, because if either of those situations were true, then that would be what objective reality is.
Anonymous ID: JJlFllHn
6/12/2025, 11:09:56 AM No.507080777
>>507077629 (OP)
Cause it's a low IQ non philosophy. Your whole personality and outlook cannot be one of negation of something else lol.
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:10:03 AM No.507080781
>>507080712
Nope, not to my standard of proof.
For all I know, you're just a projection of my mind and I'm actually an alien worm that eats memories and experiences other people's lifetimes.
There's no proof of objective reality.
Subjective reality is all that matters.
Replies: >>507080892 >>507080892 >>507080972
Anonymous ID: 5cXCKPibHungary
6/12/2025, 11:10:27 AM No.507080802
>>507077629 (OP)
>repeated spam thread
>1pbtid
>retards reply with 'because ...', thereby accepting the premise as good cattle should
hang yourselves, frens.
Anonymous ID: OIuArge1Estonia
6/12/2025, 11:11:43 AM No.507080861
>>507080649
that's not what the post is about, it's not your world buddy
Anonymous ID: TFuFN3zdPoland
6/12/2025, 11:12:10 AM No.507080888
>>507080599
Oh but you are, in a slimy, roundabout way. That's another thing thats despicable about you, you're incredibly dishonest in everything you do and say. If you didn't care, you wouldn't rail about it nearly as much. You wouldn't make your entire personality about it.
Replies: >>507081031 >>507085379
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:12:14 AM No.507080892
>>507080781
>Nope, not to my standard of proof.
It is for me. You do you though :^)

>>507080781
>Subjective reality is all that matters.
At least your honest enough to admit your beliefs in God are subjective. Thanks anon
Replies: >>507080937
Anonymous ID: 4P9kUpFXUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:12:20 AM No.507080899
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Brendan Fraser laugh_thumb.jpg
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>>507080660
Can't prove your god is real, so you're forced to question reality itself. Always the retreat towards metaphysics with you guys.
Replies: >>507080937 >>507081273
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:13:14 AM No.507080937
>>507080892
>It is for me
yes, enjoy your subjective reality, you're welcome.

>>507080899
That's just called being high iq.
I bet you think your thoughts are you still lol
Replies: >>507081071 >>507081087
Anonymous ID: vT+fTvLfUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:13:55 AM No.507080972
>>507080781
Once again, objective reality does not need proof because it must exist even if it’s completely unknowable. It’s a logical statement not a philosophical one. Because anything exists, in literally any form, there is at some level some specific way that thing exists, even if you are physically incapable of experiencing the full form of that existence. Sure, you may actually be in that situation you described and not know, but all that means is that objective reality includes you not knowing about that situation.
Replies: >>507081089 >>507081104
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:14:56 AM No.507081031
>>507080888
>Oh but you are,
Not at all. I recognize the importance religion has in society. You're beliefs don't offend me bro. If believing in God makes you genuinely a better person then more power to you. Although the way you act ITT seems to be the opposite
Anonymous ID: jtqTABi4Canada
6/12/2025, 11:15:23 AM No.507081050
>>507080617
You literally believe in a supernatural being, who the fuck are you to try and play word games about what reality is?
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:15:52 AM No.507081071
>>507080937
>yes, enjoy your subjective reality, you're welcome.
Thanks for admitting "God" is subjective
Anonymous ID: 4P9kUpFXUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:16:15 AM No.507081087
>>507080937
>That's just called being high iq.
No, it's called belief in fables with zero evidence. There is literally no functional difference between an absent god and a god that doesn't exist. You're left with nothing but assertions either way.
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:16:17 AM No.507081089
>>507080972
What makes you think objective reality exists?
Because you perceive?
How do you know you exist as you understand yourself to exist?
If you don't, what are you perceiving?
How do you know you weren't just spontaneously created five minutes ago with false memories?
Replies: >>507081162 >>507081292
Anonymous ID: OIuArge1Estonia
6/12/2025, 11:16:38 AM No.507081104
>>507080972
> i think therefor i am
you just enlightened yourself lol
Anonymous ID: bBOs7HLMAustralia
6/12/2025, 11:17:17 AM No.507081133
>>507077629 (OP)
Yeah the universe just spawned in one day bro
Replies: >>507081257
Anonymous ID: z4JOLyGGCanada
6/12/2025, 11:17:18 AM No.507081135
Never was. It was a movement of commies, faggots, edgy losers and idiots trying to blame God for their short commings.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:17:57 AM No.507081162
>>507081089
>What makes you think objective reality exists?
The effects and affects it has on me and others.
Replies: >>507081245
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:19:49 AM No.507081245
>>507081162
And those are real because?
If you were spontaneously created 5 minutes ago with false memories, all that information you're citing never happened.
Replies: >>507081356
Anonymous ID: Q0Z7w+zmIsrael
6/12/2025, 11:20:08 AM No.507081257
1747749279517473
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>>507081133
Technically it was six days and then God was hella tired
Anonymous ID: tuMBmdqrFrance
6/12/2025, 11:20:25 AM No.507081273
>>507080899
It's a subject that is necessarily metaphysical in the first place anon, since it's about fundamental truths about reality. Can't really be handled in a straightforward way with microscopes. What's needed would be to connect the metaphysical and the empirical somehow, this way both the religious and the atheistic materialist types can dialogue properly, since the former deals with abstract concepts and the latter wants falsifiability
Anonymous ID: vT+fTvLfUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:20:50 AM No.507081292
>>507081089
You’re just not getting it.
>How do you know you weren't just spontaneously created five minutes ago with false memories?

I don’t know that, it’s impossible for me to deny that with surety, but that’s beside the point. If that’s the way it actually is, then that’s the way it is. Objective reality has absolutely nothing to do with my perception of reality.
Replies: >>507081404
Anonymous ID: 8cvHZIgJUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:22:09 AM No.507081347
>>507077629 (OP)
It along with moral relativism are factually false. There are objective spiritual realities and there is objective right and wrong.
Replies: >>507081710
Anonymous ID: fDqKNVoAUnited Kingdom
6/12/2025, 11:22:10 AM No.507081348
>>507077629 (OP)
What is more believable? Everything suddenly appeared out of nothing, or someone created everything?
Look at how complex we are as humans. Do you really think that is possible from evolution from single cells?
Replies: >>507081591
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:22:19 AM No.507081356
>>507081245
>And those are real because?
The ability to affect and the effects of consequences that follow
>If you were spontaneously created 5 minutes ago with false memories, all that information you're citing never happened
Then there wouldn't be any consequences to choices made 10 minutes ago. But in reality there is
Replies: >>507081404
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:23:22 AM No.507081404
>>507081292
What if there's no objective reality to perceive?

>>507081356
That's because the whole world was created spontaneously when you were.
There's equal proof for this as there is for the world always existing.
Replies: >>507081500 >>507081599
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:25:30 AM No.507081500
>>507081404
>That's because the whole world was created spontaneously when you were.
Then I wouldn't have any consequences from my past. But the reality is I do. Same as you and everyone else.

Cause and effect constantly remind me I'm bound by reality
Replies: >>507081556
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:26:46 AM No.507081556
>>507081500
They indicate that but they aren't concrete proof.
Still, it is usually better to subjectively believe the past does exist.
But that doesn't mean it does.
Replies: >>507081606 >>507081687
Anonymous ID: ASkx4ujPUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:26:52 AM No.507081563
>>507078127
>It's driven by jews that seek to supplant God.

Every time, it always comes down to two groups. Those that bend the knee, and those that eat human flesh and refuse to bend.

They are the most stiff necked things to walk on two legs.
Anonymous ID: q/t5Ls/FUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:27:15 AM No.507081591
>>507081348
Those 2 options are equally as ridiculous, you fucking fag
Replies: >>507081620
Anonymous ID: aWtb6Sw8United States
6/12/2025, 11:27:27 AM No.507081599
>>507081404
>That's because the whole world was created spontaneously when you were.
There's equal proof for this as there is for the world always existing.

Then either one of those situations would be objective reality depending on which one happened. Whether or not anyone can know which one is true doesn’t affect that one of those situations would actually be true. Whether or not I can perceive objective reality does not affect its existence, I’m just incapable of saying what it actually is. But it’s okay to not know what it is.
Replies: >>507081738
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:27:35 AM No.507081606
>>507081556
>They indicate that but they aren't concrete proof
The consequences are the proof.
Replies: >>507081738
Anonymous ID: fDqKNVoAUnited Kingdom
6/12/2025, 11:27:48 AM No.507081620
>>507081591
they're literally the only two options you fucking sperg
Replies: >>507081699
Anonymous ID: aWtb6Sw8United States
6/12/2025, 11:29:00 AM No.507081687
>>507081556
>Still, it is usually better to subjectively believe the past does exist. But that doesn't mean it does

Well yeah, but then objective truth would just include the situation of you subjectively believing the past exists.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:29:14 AM No.507081699
>>507081620
Nope. The honest option is to say I don't know what started it all
Replies: >>507081726 >>507081838
Anonymous ID: yflKA6pGBulgaria
6/12/2025, 11:29:26 AM No.507081710
>>507081347
Yes, biological ones. You are a social mammal thus having a-priory notions about fairness, generosity and violence escalation is a given. No true tabula rasa creature can exist. This is not in any way, shape or form requiring a creator. Morality is not relative, it is an evolutionary survival mechanism.
Anonymous ID: fDqKNVoAUnited Kingdom
6/12/2025, 11:29:40 AM No.507081726
>>507081699
ignorance is bliss eh
Replies: >>507081813
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:29:48 AM No.507081738
>>507081606
Ok, then if you were spontaneously created five minutes ago you fell for it.
Now you got burdens put on you for shit you never did.
You're paying for last month's bills and you didn't even exist then.

>>507081599
Again, what if no objective reality exists to percieve.
It's possible, afterall, the brain is easily fooled.
We see in dreams and hear in dreams and feel in dreams all while our bodies lay there in the dark.
No need for an actual objective reality to exist.
Replies: >>507081813 >>507082013
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:31:27 AM No.507081813
>>507081726
Honesty is bliss
>>507081738
>Ok, then if you were spontaneously created five minutes ago you fell for it.
But I know I wasn't because I'm dealing with consequences from 10 minutes ago
Replies: >>507081885
Anonymous ID: eh2WAIdJCroatia
6/12/2025, 11:31:29 AM No.507081815
>>507078761
>but most of (You) fuckers would have been burned at the stake back when society was really Christian.
No because we'd have absolutely 0 fucking reason to complain, you'd have a house, a wife, some kids and food and water on the table, the last 2 are the only thing all of us here have
Anonymous ID: 8vmYaeR+United States
6/12/2025, 11:31:53 AM No.507081836
>>507077629 (OP)
It turns out atheists are just a bunch of butthurt faggots and communists.
Anonymous ID: x8UZWPDCUnited Kingdom
6/12/2025, 11:31:54 AM No.507081838
>>507081699
its a question of what literally happened. not what I think happened retard. the other guy is right. it can only swing two ways. Your perception is irrelevant retard
Replies: >>507081870
Anonymous ID: TuTu4Ws8Denmark
6/12/2025, 11:31:56 AM No.507081841
>>507079064
I always thought that lying is what ONLY Muslims do, but after seeing all and sundry religious anons here on /pol/ BLATANTLY LYING about irreligious people, I now wonder if ALL religions reject truthful members and only accept liars.

In that case Scandinavians can never be religious, even if we would like to.
Replies: >>507083281
Anonymous ID: 420S7awFUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:32:19 AM No.507081856
>>507077629 (OP)
Because of reddit
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:32:47 AM No.507081870
>>507081838
>its a question of what literally happened
And no one knows as of yet
Replies: >>507081911
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:33:09 AM No.507081885
>>507081813
Which were created five minutes ago hypothetically.
It's called Last Thursdayism.
Basically, there is no real way to prove the past exists at all.
The consequences of your past actions could be set up just like your memories.
Replies: >>507081942
Anonymous ID: lqqZsXMjFinland
6/12/2025, 11:33:22 AM No.507081891
>>507077629 (OP)
Lmao as if it ever was. Some otherwise annoying faggot comedian said it great, I'm paraphrasing:
>there are idiots who believe in fairytales and there are idiots who think religion has no value, you want to be somewhere in the middle
Anonymous ID: x8UZWPDCUnited Kingdom
6/12/2025, 11:33:40 AM No.507081911
>>507081870
does not matter retard. if a tree falls over without anyone seeing it, it still fell over.
Replies: >>507082062
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:34:30 AM No.507081942
>>507081885
I'll ask this again since you avoided it earlier

Is 2+2=4 objectively true?
Replies: >>507082638
Anonymous ID: 4Tu8TeSUUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:34:44 AM No.507081953
>>507077948
You've meet midwits real smart Christians and complete idiots KNOW IT'S THE TRUTH
Anonymous ID: Y2kfHucOUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:35:42 AM No.507082003
>>507080436
The grass in your backyard isn’t real. How do I know this - I haven’t seen it. I’m convinced you’re imaginary.

That’s how fucking stupid and illogical your argument/point of view is btw. Either cuz you’re actually a Canadian or pretending to be one. Either or, spectrum - just one, you get a little head pat of understand (you’re Canadian, derp). The fact that there is life on earth mathematically counters the argument that there isn’t anywhere else in the universe. The fact that there is life, mathematically reaffirms that there is superior life. The fact that there is potentially superior life, overrides/removes any possibility you are correct due to the immeasurable size and age of the universe. It’s presently scientifically unprovable.

An atheist is literally the equivalent of someone that believes in the Easter Bunny. Fucking dum but if it makes you happy, more power to you but fore fucking tarded for the record.
Replies: >>507082189 >>507083319
Anonymous ID: aWtb6Sw8United States
6/12/2025, 11:35:53 AM No.507082013
>>507081738
You’re confusing the perception, or possible perception, of objective reality with objective reality itself.

To use your example of the dream. It could be true that there is no dream, and what you are perceiving is objective reality. It could also be true that you are dreaming and perceiving those things in the dream, which would mean that objective reality is that you are dreaming and experiencing those things in the dream. Objective reality would be that you are experiencing those things *in a dream*. Whether or not you know the part in asterisks wouldnt matter or affect whether or not that was the situation. You can keep going ‘what if this, what if that’ but all that means is that objective reality would include all of those things, regardless of your knowledge of them.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:36:56 AM No.507082062
>>507081911
>does not matter
Sure it does. No one knows what started it all. And no one makes the claim something came from nothing
Replies: >>507082187 >>507082287
Anonymous ID: fDqKNVoAUnited Kingdom
6/12/2025, 11:39:57 AM No.507082187
>>507082062
>no one makes the claim something came from nothing
the big bang theory literally claims this
Replies: >>507082229
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:39:58 AM No.507082189
>>507082003
>The grass in your backyard isn’t real. How do I know this - I haven’t seen it. I’m convinced you’re imaginary.
But others have seen it. Which makes your opinion irrelevant lol
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:40:47 AM No.507082229
>>507082187
>the big bang theory literally claims this
Nope. It's a model of what happened after the singularity.
Replies: >>507082326 >>507082342 >>507082375 >>507082667
Anonymous ID: Q0Z7w+zmIsrael
6/12/2025, 11:41:57 AM No.507082287
>>507082062
This is exactly the claim of 'the big bang', no time, matter or any reason, bam! Matter and time exists
Replies: >>507082375
Anonymous ID: yIwjZ/tuUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:42:53 AM No.507082326
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>>507082229
>I am le arbiter of all things
>t.
Replies: >>507082409
Anonymous ID: fDqKNVoAUnited Kingdom
6/12/2025, 11:43:18 AM No.507082342
>>507082229
but it literally postulates that there was nothing before the big bang
Replies: >>507082409 >>507082568
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:43:55 AM No.507082375
>>507082287
>This is exactly the claim of 'the big bang
See
>>507082229
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:44:35 AM No.507082409
>>507082326
What a handsome man :^)
>>507082342
Nope
Replies: >>507082452
Anonymous ID: n8iTrtJ+
6/12/2025, 11:45:11 AM No.507082443
Christianity is dying, and New Atheism was mostly an attack on Christianity. You could say it was successful in that regard.
Anonymous ID: fDqKNVoAUnited Kingdom
6/12/2025, 11:45:17 AM No.507082452
>>507082409
I think you need to reread the theory.
Replies: >>507082471 >>507082568
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:45:41 AM No.507082471
>>507082452
You first
Replies: >>507082556
Anonymous ID: yIwjZ/tuUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:47:25 AM No.507082556
>>507082471
You know eventually we are gonna find you.
I bet if I looked through a sex offender registry you would show up
Replies: >>507082624
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:47:38 AM No.507082568
SmartSelect_20250612_024702_Brave
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>>507082342
>>507082452
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:48:49 AM No.507082624
>>507082556
>You know eventually we are gonna find you
Good luck duder :^)
>we
Kek I've hurt a lot of feelings it seems
Replies: >>507082733
Anonymous ID: xR2RJAJUFinland
6/12/2025, 11:48:52 AM No.507082627
>>507077714
Have you ever considered that allowing a pedophilic foreskin cult to monopolize most community functions in White societies might precisely be the reason why those functions are failing right now.
Replies: >>507085068
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:49:09 AM No.507082638
>>507081942
Advanced math fags would say no, because you're assuming base 10.
Replies: >>507082824
Anonymous ID: Qm8mR7nXSpain
6/12/2025, 11:49:39 AM No.507082667
>>507082229
The Big Bang theory was formulated by a Catholic priest and was initially rejected by your types precisely because it adjusted to religious beliefs before being later adopted into the atheistic dogma.
Replies: >>507082730
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:51:00 AM No.507082730
>>507082667
I don't know what this has to do with the argument but ok lol
Replies: >>507082940
Anonymous ID: yIwjZ/tuUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:51:07 AM No.507082733
>>507082624
We found John and got him
Once we find you that will be it because I am taking your fingers just like we took johns left hand :)
Replies: >>507082890
Anonymous ID: FlIR2AiWUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:52:44 AM No.507082818
>>507077629 (OP)
Because atheists, as people, typically suck to be around.
They're argumentative, egotistical, nihilistic, and rat like.
Nobody cares if they're right or wrong, they just know they're insufferable.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:52:52 AM No.507082824
SmartSelect_20250612_025228_Brave
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>>507082638
Replies: >>507083000
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:54:21 AM No.507082890
>>507082733
>We found John and got him
I found John. Only because he's post direct links to hos YouTube channel stating his name. Then I found out his dad was Conrad Black
Anonymous ID: Qm8mR7nXSpain
6/12/2025, 11:55:25 AM No.507082940
>>507082730
Just appreciating the irony, the uncreated something before the universe is God by the way, that's the whole point of the theory before it became atheistic dogma.
Replies: >>507082999
Anonymous ID: +OWUsZs6United States
6/12/2025, 11:55:40 AM No.507082951
1719864859243660
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We live in a torture farm, there is obviously some higher power that put us here and feeds off of us. If you've lived for many decades and don't realize that you're either a retarded niggercattle or an npc atheist.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:56:50 AM No.507082999
>>507082940
>the uncreated something before the universe is Warrbles by the way,
I can make suppositions too
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:56:50 AM No.507083000
>>507082824
What if it's base 8?
Replies: >>507083051 >>507083270
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 11:57:51 AM No.507083051
>>507083000
How would you know if there is no objective reality according to you?
Replies: >>507083141
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 11:59:30 AM No.507083141
>>507083051
Exactly, now you're getting it lol
Replies: >>507083197 >>507083257 >>507083270
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:00:33 PM No.507083197
>>507083141
No seriously how would you go about finding out?
Replies: >>507083370
Anonymous ID: IWogOifoGermany
6/12/2025, 12:00:54 PM No.507083213
>>507078697
You fucking lying jew. The thing about power and truth is not what Nietzsche teached. Additionally he must have been against women entering the workforce.
Anonymous ID: aWtb6Sw8United States
6/12/2025, 12:01:47 PM No.507083257
>>507083141
Again, knowing is irrelevant. Objective reality, whatever it is, is logically axiomatic. Whatever situation objective reality is, it includes you not knowing everything about it.
Replies: >>507083370
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:02:04 PM No.507083270
SmartSelect_20250612_030124_Brave
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>>507083000
>>507083141
Kek
Replies: >>507083370 >>507083971
Anonymous ID: gxs/wfZnSweden
6/12/2025, 12:02:15 PM No.507083281
>>507081841
I think it's a uniquely Abrahamic tendency. There's a peculiar Jewish arrogancy built in to all three religions. I don't even think they reflect on how much the lie, but if they do their reasoning goes something like this:
1. I believe in the Truth (important with capital T)
2. Since I believe in the Truth anyone who disagrees with me must be evil
3. Since they're evil any means by which I can attack them is good
4. Lying about them is good and in the service of Truth
Replies: >>507083622 >>507083691 >>507086343
Anonymous ID: 3psDrVJBCanada
6/12/2025, 12:02:50 PM No.507083319
>>507082003
>if a tree falls in the forest ....
That's your grand conundrum to bring up?

>An atheist is literally the equivalent of someone that believes in the Easter Bunny
No, an atheist is litterally the equivalent to not believing in the Easter bunny. Nice projection.
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:04:01 PM No.507083370
>>507083197
You just have to get the most satisfactory definition of "truth" you can manage while keeping in mind it could be that you went mad 10 years ago and you're actually rolling race cars out of poop.

>>507083257
I'm not convinced it exists.
It could be I'm dreaming and every time my subconcious thinks of something, like bills, they show up.

>>507083270
I'm not an advanced math fag lol
Replies: >>507083622 >>507083709
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:05:32 PM No.507083622
>>507083281
>1. I believe in the Truth (important with capital T)
>2. Since I believe in the Truth anyone who disagrees with me must be evil
>3. Since they're evil any means by which I can attack them is good
>4. Lying about them is good and in the service of Truth
This is the exact same lesson taught in Scientology and in all cults

>>507083370
>I'm not an advanced math fag lol
Ah so a Dunning Kruger. Your concession is accepted
Replies: >>507083690 >>507084176
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:06:40 PM No.507083690
>>507083622
It is true I just don't know which systems you'd need to adopt for 2+2 to not be 4.
I steal from smart bois.
Replies: >>507083913
Anonymous ID: Qm8mR7nXSpain
6/12/2025, 12:06:41 PM No.507083691
>>507083281
I think it's a uniquely Scandinavian tendency. There's a peculiar homosexual arrogance built in all three Scandinavian countries. I don't even think they reflect on how much the lie, but if they do their reasoning goes something like this:
1. I believe in LGBTQ (important with capitals LGBTQ)
2. Since I believe in LGBTQ anyone who disagrees with me must be evil
3. Since they're evil any means by which I can attack them is good
4. Lying about them is good and in the service of LGBTQ
Replies: >>507083778 >>507084176
Anonymous ID: aWtb6Sw8United States
6/12/2025, 12:07:02 PM No.507083709
>>507083370
Then objective reality includes the situation of you not being convinced it exists.

Then objective reality would include the situation of you dreaming, and every time your subconscious thinks of something it shows up.

Do you see my point? Whatever situation you describe of you not knowing what objective reality is, would necessarily be included in objective reality.
Replies: >>507083855
Anonymous ID: Q0Z7w+zmIsrael
6/12/2025, 12:08:12 PM No.507083778
1725044569412299
1725044569412299
md5: 6e04dbec6779b589072daf109bd4cffb🔍
>>507083691
Anonymous ID: aCNDLsgTUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:09:07 PM No.507083826
>>507077629 (OP)
it has little to nothing to offer so theres nothing there to really defend. if people pretend like its sacred to them they're just an annoying tool.
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:09:51 PM No.507083855
>>507083709
Yeah I get what you're saying but that universe wouldn't have an objective reality.
It would be subjective because it's based soley on perception and belief being real.
Such as a dream.
Replies: >>507083976 >>507084011
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:10:56 PM No.507083913
>>507083690
>I steal from smart bois.
Who agree in an objective reality :^)
Anonymous ID: TXLjb+nfJapan
6/12/2025, 12:11:22 PM No.507083934
>>507077629 (OP)
There's nothing to gain, and everything to lose, being militantly atheist.

In a country that doesn't force a religion, there is nothing gained by being militantly atheist. I could understand if there was State Religion, but in secular countries where it is perfectly legal to be atheist, why? Why waste your limited time here arguing against something you don't believe in?
Anonymous ID: IWogOifoGermany
6/12/2025, 12:12:02 PM No.507083971
>>507083270
It's 1 in base 3 for example. But whats the point
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:12:07 PM No.507083976
>>507083855
Now you're contradicting yourself.

Are you stupid on purpose or is it normal?
Anonymous ID: aWtb6Sw8United States
6/12/2025, 12:12:37 PM No.507084011
>>507083855
No it’s the exact opposite. Objective reality does not require anyone to perceive it. Objective realty would still exist even if there was not one single being capable of any perception alive.
Replies: >>507084052 >>507084135
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:13:14 PM No.507084052
>>507084011
This anon gets it
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:14:38 PM No.507084135
>>507084011
"It encompasses the physical world and truths that remain constant regardless of individual opinions or feelings."

In a hypothetical universe where objective reality does not exist, only the subjective reality is real.
If your perception changes it, it isn't objective reality.
Replies: >>507084475
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:15:17 PM No.507084176
>>507083691
>1. I believe in LGBTQ (important with capitals LGBTQ)
>2. Since I believe in LGBTQ anyone who disagrees with me must be evil
>3. Since they're evil any means by which I can attack them is good
>4. Lying about them is good and in the service of LGBTQ
Exactly
>>507083622
>This is the exact same lesson taught in Scientology and in all cults
Anonymous ID: aWtb6Sw8United States
6/12/2025, 12:21:11 PM No.507084475
>>507084135
But that hypothetical universe doesn’t exist. Also, if your perception changed something, then the objective reality would be that that thing is capable of being changed by perception. In that case, the thing “that remains constant regardless of individual opinions or feelings." is that thing can be changed by perception.
Replies: >>507084655
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:24:47 PM No.507084655
>>507084475
Sorry but words have meanings.
In a universe where I can perceive "red fings" go faster, objective reality is out the window.
Such as the Warhammer 40k universe.
It is a subjective reality only universe.
And I'm not entirely convinced ours isn't the same.
Replies: >>507084856 >>507084945 >>507084982 >>507085127
Anonymous ID: xpWg4nslMexico
6/12/2025, 12:26:47 PM No.507084750
>>507079749

You're very hateful and judgemental for a Christian. Close minded too, but hey, at least that one's not hypocritical.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:28:40 PM No.507084856
>>507084655
>Sorry but words have meanings
Yeah and all you're doing is making up stuff, trying to find a gotcha but really digging yourself deeper in a retard hole
Replies: >>507084932
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:30:15 PM No.507084932
>>507084856
No, it's just true.
In the Warhammer 40k universe an Ork painting a car red changes it's feelings about the car and the car really goes faster.
In that universe, there is no constant objective reality.
Ours might be the same, think of all the crazy mind over matter shit people can do.
Objective reality is a cope for faithlets.
Replies: >>507084982 >>507085012
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:30:24 PM No.507084945
>>507084655
You’re not thinking at a high enough level. In that case the objective reality would be that a subjective reality universe exists. When I say ‘objective reality’ I’m talking about the state of things that the universe is couched in, the existence of the universe itself in whatever form it takes, not what’s actually happening within the universe.
Replies: >>507084993
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:31:12 PM No.507084982
>>507084932
>No, it's just true.
You're contradicting yourself again
>>507084655
>It is a subjective reality only universe
Replies: >>507085059
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:31:19 PM No.507084993
>>507084945
Then the proper term would be "reality"
as in some cases the reality isn't objective.
Replies: >>507085087
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:31:37 PM No.507085012
>>507084932
The constant objective reality would be that the thoughts of orcs can change reality.
Replies: >>507085100
Anonymous ID: RU3Y76QCGeorgia
6/12/2025, 12:31:56 PM No.507085029
>>507077629 (OP)
he's a 7 foot gigachad and would rape your twink ass if you wanted too you wouldn't be able to do anything.
Anonymous ID: m2ZJJKVIRomania
6/12/2025, 12:32:28 PM No.507085055
>>507077629 (OP)
what do you mean. is the world you live in
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:32:30 PM No.507085059
>>507084982
Warhammer 40k is a hypothetical subjective reality only universe.
A human can paint a car red and it won't change the car.
But an Ork has such strong faith that it makes the red car actually faster.
Humans can do similar things in the real world, mostly with their bodies.
Replies: >>507085137 >>507085138
Anonymous ID: KNp/k4JLNetherlands
6/12/2025, 12:32:40 PM No.507085068
>>507082627
>foreskin
turn off VPN kike. Cutting off foreskin is not a Christian thing and never was
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:33:01 PM No.507085087
>>507084993
No, the reality is always objective at the highest scale, that being ‘all there is’
Anonymous ID: +dWata/tRomania
6/12/2025, 12:33:17 PM No.507085098
>>507077629 (OP)
literally everyone I know is an atheist. all educated people with high income of course, not yokel retards who shovel cow dung and don't even bother keeping their houses clean
Replies: >>507085204
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:33:18 PM No.507085100
>>507085012
Regardless of the individual ork's feelings?
That makes zero sense and self contradictory
Replies: >>507085255
Anonymous ID: VYSL1Nk3United States
6/12/2025, 12:33:42 PM No.507085127
>>507084655
>Sorry but words have meanings.
The meanings of words are relative to their context. Often times a word's meaning can be used in a facetious context.

Just try and translate a colloquial saying into a foreign language.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:34:00 PM No.507085137
>>507085059
>Warhammer 40k
We aren't talking about that though. You've changed the goal post when you failed the math angle
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:34:02 PM No.507085138
>>507085059
You’re just describing what the objective reality for that universe is. It would be the objective reality that perception can change reality.
Replies: >>507085200 >>507085225
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:35:09 PM No.507085200
>>507085138
Also this. That anon is too stupid for these conversations
Anonymous ID: VYSL1Nk3United States
6/12/2025, 12:35:13 PM No.507085204
>>507085098
Yet here you are on 4chan, the asshole of the internet. Shoveling it's shit.
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:35:45 PM No.507085225
>>507085138
Nope, I'm describing the reality of that universe.
There is no objective reality in that universe.
Replies: >>507085280 >>507085306
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:36:20 PM No.507085255
>>507085100
Well yeah it’s 40k we’re talking about, for that universe the objective reality is that the universe doesn’t make sense and is contradictory. Your idea of ‘objective reality is too granular and based on specific events, I mean it in the sense of ‘what there is is what there is’
Replies: >>507085310
Anonymous ID: M4lFS4+fGermany
6/12/2025, 12:36:38 PM No.507085272
>>507077629 (OP)
>anymore
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:36:50 PM No.507085280
>>507085225
This idiot is arguing from an oxymoron lol
Replies: >>507085310
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:37:30 PM No.507085306
>>507085225
Thats exactly my point. The reality of that inverse is the objective reality of that universe, in literally whatever form it takes.
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:37:37 PM No.507085310
>>507085255
No, the reality.
You keep saying objective but there is no objective reality in that universe.
It's a bias.

>>507085280
It's just a hypothetical that may or may not reflect our reality.
Replies: >>507085445 >>507085487
Anonymous ID: +dWata/tRomania
6/12/2025, 12:38:58 PM No.507085379
>>507080888
>you're incredibly dishonest in everything you do and say
how ironic for a bible thumping midwit to say this. 99% of Christians have nothing to do with Christ himself and his teachings, it's only a matter of rite and aesthetics (for those who even bother going to church). and it's hard to be consistent when it comes to following the Bible's teachings, because it's a collection of contradictions. it's really simple, if you are unlike Christ, if you don't love all mankind, if you don't think that rich people go to hell, if you do not give away your belongings to the poor, then you're not a Christian. so stop calling yourself one. you just like the aesthetics or something I don't know. or you just use it as some kind of "lore" behind your belief that a higher power exists. but all the "virtues" you claim to follow do not apply to you or the crushing majority of self-declared "christians"
Anonymous ID: aWtb6Sw8United States
6/12/2025, 12:40:09 PM No.507085445
>>507085310
What I’m saying is that the objective reality OF that universe is that there is no objective reality IN that universe. I’m describing something that exists at a scale larger than that of the universe itself.
Replies: >>507085546
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:40:46 PM No.507085487
>>507085310
>It's just a hypothetical
It isn't. It's you not understanding words hence your oxymoron statement
Anonymous ID: J1NdF0jcUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:41:33 PM No.507085524
>>507077629 (OP)
It never was
t. atheist
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:42:00 PM No.507085546
>>507085445
I don't think objective reality exists in any universe at any scale.
If I believe I can do something, it's more likely I can do it.
If I believe a placebo is real medicine, it's more likely to heal me.
Reality is fake and gay.
Replies: >>507085601
Anonymous ID: XinLfEB/Finland
6/12/2025, 12:42:03 PM No.507085551
>>507078761
amen
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:43:06 PM No.507085601
>>507085546
Yes. The objective reality is that you believe those things
Replies: >>507085658
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:44:08 PM No.507085658
>>507085601
Reality.
If I change my belief, the objective reality wouldn't be constant regardless of my belief.
Objective reality doesn't exist.
Replies: >>507085803 >>507085883
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:47:06 PM No.507085803
>>507085658
Objective reality doesn’t need to remain constant. In that example the objective reality would be that you changed your belief from one thing to another. Objective reality doesn’t mean there is no change all it means is ‘what is, is’
Replies: >>507085841 >>507086071
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:47:47 PM No.507085841
>>507085803
>doesn’t need to remain constant
"It encompasses the physical world and truths that remain constant regardless of individual opinions or feelings."

It's not real.
It's a fantasy.
Replies: >>507086009
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:48:29 PM No.507085883
>>507085658
>Objective reality doesn't exist
If you stick your hand in flame and leave it there, will it burn?
Replies: >>507085961
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 12:50:07 PM No.507085961
>>507085883
The degree to which it will burn will depend on my feelings and opinions.
Replies: >>507086013
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:51:08 PM No.507086009
>>507085841
Yes, but that definition doesn’t imply that things can’t change. It just means that the physical situation of things doesn’t change based on opinion of feelings, not that they can’t actually factually change at all.
Replies: >>507086561
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:51:12 PM No.507086013
>>507085961
Incorrect. You may not feel pain at all. But your hand will still burn
Replies: >>507086561
Anonymous ID: sigBJjbQUnited States
6/12/2025, 12:52:27 PM No.507086071
>>507085803
Brings up an interesting position akin to Deism: the idea that there was once a god but that such a thing no longer exists.
Anonymous ID: TuTu4Ws8Denmark
6/12/2025, 12:56:35 PM No.507086343
>>507083281
>a uniquely Abrahamic tendency
Disclaimer: I have NO knowledge about any religions - except Islam, as I had to read the koran in order to find out why Muslims are lying, violent and murderous creatures.
So unfortunately you already lost me at “Abrahamic”.

>There’s a peculiar Jewish arrogancy built in
Our few jews were shipped to Sweden in 1943, so contemporary Danes have never seen a jew and thus don’t know if one of them were arrogant.

>I don’t even think religious people reflect on how much they lie
In that case they’re actually pathological liars (psychopathy, sociopathy, narcissism, machiavellianism).

>But if they reflect on how much they lie, their reasoning goes something like this:

>1. I believe in the Truth (important with capital T)
Cocksure confidence alert.

>2. Since I believe in the truth, anyone who disagrees with me must be evil.
Full-blown Muslim tier - that escalated quickly!

>3. Since they’re evil, any means by which I can attack them is good
BLOODY red flag: Islamic terrorism soon to happen again.

>4. Lying about them is good and in the service of Truth
Inbred islamist tier - thanks for your explanation/theory, despite it sadly confirms my conclusion: More religions than just Islam are exclusively for liars.
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 1:00:36 PM No.507086561
>>507086013
I'd like to see a study if people can burn less fast due to something like the placebo effect.

>>507086009
Yeah, things change based on opinions and feelings.
Water tastes better when I'm thirsty.
Sugar pills become meds if I think they're meds.
Replies: >>507086795
Anonymous ID: O/77UeXjItaly
6/12/2025, 1:00:42 PM No.507086565
>>507079218
TKD
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 1:05:16 PM No.507086795
>>507086561
The objective reality is that those things happen. ‘Objective reality’ is whatever happens, by the nature of those things happening.
Replies: >>507086944
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 1:08:19 PM No.507086944
>>507086795
You're in a cult dude.
It's reality.
Not objective reality.
Replies: >>507087027 >>507088758
Anonymous ID: flzKOmtYUnited States
6/12/2025, 1:09:41 PM No.507087027
>>507086944
Reality is objective reality because at the largest scale its impossible for it to be anything else
Replies: >>507087288
Anonymous ID: pyTT06Y2United States
6/12/2025, 1:14:17 PM No.507087288
>>507087027
You can't know that and if at the lower levels it's subjective who's to say your opinion on the highest levels don't change all of reality?
I'm aiming for Atman, eff science.
Replies: >>507088855
Anonymous ID: O/77UeXjItaly
6/12/2025, 1:16:15 PM No.507087399
>>507079837
I would recommend to kill all kikes asap.
Anonymous ID: g9NcsPPrGermany
6/12/2025, 1:22:51 PM No.507087740
>>507077629 (OP)
what happened to the amazing gaytheist, he did not turn into the amazing faggotist but into the amazing neckbeardist. holy shit a neckbeard just flew over my house.
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 1:41:42 PM No.507088758
>>507086944
>It's reality.
>Not objective reality
Oxymoron
Ghosts of Mesa ID: 1OBDIbYDUnited States
6/12/2025, 1:43:40 PM No.507088855
>>507087288
This woman lost the argument long ago and dug themselves so far deep in the retard hole that they've abandoned their God in favor for an oxymoron take
Anonymous ID: OHYXouv2Georgia
6/12/2025, 1:44:16 PM No.507088896
>>507077629 (OP)
>Why isn't atheism cool anymore?
False premise and red herring. /pol/ can't even into logic in 2025
And what the fuck is "cool" supposed to mean, exactly?
Replies: >>507089474
Dave ID: aQvHeQKjCzech Republic
6/12/2025, 1:49:41 PM No.507089255
1000104948
1000104948
md5: e42a97ba4d51d3ce885aedac31cd34fd🔍
I live near the church. European christians are so wholesome. Not like that American scum calling you a satanist etc.
Anonymous ID: UCgcZYIgUnited States
6/12/2025, 1:50:37 PM No.507089312
>>507077629 (OP)
Because no matter how tough you are, The Alpha and Omega is more so.
Anonymous ID: 9AgrH0/TUnited States
6/12/2025, 1:53:24 PM No.507089474
>>507088896
if you were walking along the beach and your foot kicked a pocketwatch
would it logical to say the watch, with all of its complications and gears, naturally came to be the way that it is?
Anonymous ID: U6dlP1GgFrance
6/12/2025, 1:55:13 PM No.507089573
>>507077815
Most organic fed post.