Why was there no massive outcry from the soldiers who liberated the camps, to push back against the idea that the nazis were exterminating jews and other minorities?

Given how the nazis themselves spent years talking about how they would punish the jews, and there is also thousands of tonnes of documentary evidence and testimony... you would think if all of that was a hoax, the soldiers would have something to say about it. no?

Is your position honestly, that the Nazis wanted to wipe out the jews, there is mountains of evidence which suggest that they did try to do it, and even that you think they should have done it, but because there are a few things that on the face of it seem to not add up... that the holocaust definitely didnt happen and even the soldiers from different countries were in on the grand hoax?

Seems like you are reaching due to some need to be a contrarian, or you are just fucking stupid.

“Maybe the numbers were lower but many Jews were killed and many suffered” is a fag lie. NOTHING happened to any Jews.
Not a single Jew was killed "just for being a Jew". A tiny number of Jews were shot by firing squad in "The Kamps" but for horrible crimes mostly against other Jews, and German soldiers were being shot or hung for far, far less.

ALL photos of starved/starving are of "unknown" and ALL are also "adult males of fighting age" when German army was losing 100,000+month on collapsing both fronts during WORST WINTER IN EUROPEAN HISTORY.

ALL photos known to be Jews show they well fed, well dressed and with wrist watches, rings, etc. That jibes with ALL both US and UK officers in charge of Refugees.

Read Ike's famous statement about "bearing witness". WTF does it dance around mentioning who is presumed to be the guilty party???
That is NOT how US Army officers talk or write reports. If a US Army officer talked like that they'd give him a medical exam for stroke or sun stroke or poisoning or head injury or SOMETHING. LOL.
Ike didn't know it we were going to finger the Nazis for being Nazis, or the Jewish "Kapos" for being Communists in relation to his up coming POTUS run, which Patton said he'd been planning in earnest since at least 1943, and openly laying ground work with other politicians.

Top Jews(Zionists) worked with Nazi regime all through WW2 to KEEP JEWS FROM SCATTERING to places other than "Israel" and knew the Jews were being treated better than anyone in Europe, and even the entire world (many AMERICANS were forced to suck Asbestos by JEWISH plant owners in USA, among countless other horrors).
Even when it became clear Germany would be on losing end, with aspect of post war situation unclear, Hitler and Nazis were thinking in terms of WTF next German regime and German people dealing with still Jewish controlled major powers of...all of the Allies.

>>507078322
Those photos were of the camps that the nazis were showing to the red cross observers... you dont think that its possible they set them up?

To say nothing of the fact that you shouldnt be rounding people up and putting them in camps, and if you are going to do that you arent likely to make them some sort of pleasure resort.

use your brain.

>>507077908 (OP)
Its physically impossible to gas people that fast and burn the bodies, all of the "death camps" were found on honest stalin's red army side, although there were similar rumors on the american side, the population of jews didnt change before or after the war, all of the confessions were extracted through torture

>>507078845
who said they gassed them all?

>>507077908 (OP)
that's a man (it didn't happen)

>>507078931
The holocaust denier ladies and gents.

>>507078845
actually the population of jews in German occupied territories is different from the population that resettled elsewhere.... Guess how many jews went missing?

>>507078322
Seriously, you are now suggesting that the Nazis spent years talking about how the jews should be punished, then they expropriated them, passed laws that limited their freedoms, then they rounded them up by force.

.... and sent them to a spa resort, with a pool and a movie theatre.

>>507077908 (OP)
Both my grandfathers fought in the British Army. Both my grandfathers told my family it was all lies. One of my grandfathers met Rommel and said he was one of the nicest guys he'd ever met. I'd believe them over some irish kike any day.

>>507079186
sure thing, muhammad.

>>507079214
I'm Irish kike boy

>>507077908 (OP)
Nver happened but a kike suffering or bleeding is a win for humanity

>>507079284
Whatever you say Rahul.

>>507077908 (OP)
Treblinka camp

Operational: 23 July 1942 to 19 October 1943 = 454 days. Killed between 700,000 and 900,000 Jews.

No crematoria, bodies were burned in open pits.

700k bodies / 454 days = 1542 bodies burned per day, in the open, even in rain or snow. Not a single bone fragment was found in the camp after the war.

REFERENCES
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treblinka_extermination_camp

>>507079337
Cope. Your lies are falling apart all around you

It didn't happen and that's a damn shame

>>507079361
Wrong, to my knowledge the most recent mass graves discovered at Treblinka were found as late as 2012.

>>507079384
Whatever you say Krishna, your Darma is your own business. Ask your elders at temple.

>>507077908 (OP)
Didn't read, just clicked on the picture.

>>507079457
You dont see anything strange about those numbers, no?

>>507079577
What is strange is that Churchill, Eisenhower and De Gaulle collectively wrote 7000+ pages in their memoirs about WW2 and didn't once mention a supposed extermination plan for the kikes

You are better at eating foreskins than making up stories, rat

>>507079704
Thats just flat out wrong again

Eisenhauer visited the camps and said "The things I saw beggar description... The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were... overpowering"

But go back to the numbers... do you notice anything strange about the numbers there.

>>507077908 (OP)
>Mountains of evidence
No mountains of remains, bones and teeth, ashes that would be indicative of mass extermination camps as per the allegations

>>507077908 (OP)
>Why didn't Soviet conscripts protest against their genocidal dictator?
You are a certified retard

>>507079704
Churchill also gave various speeches where he referred to gassings and shootings..

Seriously, its like people like you just see an image and believe it because its in line with what you want to think... No need to look into it at all.

But seriously, scrutinise the numbers you gave above.. its hilarious what you are implying there.

>>507077908 (OP)
What are the odds that six million Jews dying in a Holocaust was printed in Jewish newspapers in the early 1900s. What are the odds that another six million Jews died in the WW2 Holocaust. What are the odds that six million Jews dying in a Holocaust is a Jewish prophesy that had to happen to herald in an era of Jewish prosperity in which these people universally and eternally famous for lying about everything throughout history come out on top of non Jews. What are the odds that Christ and every other church father warned against them and their deception. Ultimately it boils down to Christ and all our ancestors were right about the Jews and if there's reason at all to suspect they're lying, then we just assume you are lying. Besides, your people are all about relativism, so if we say it didn't happen for long enough then that makes it true.

>>507079461
With how many body’s in it?

>>507077908 (OP)
>The holocaust actually happened
I actually dont care

>usa and soviet union population up 5.5 million 1930-1945

>>507077908 (OP)
Because that narrative didn't start getting pushed until 30 years after the war had ended when Eli Wisel wrote The Night in the 1970's

>>507077908 (OP)
>Why was there no massive outcry from the soldiers who liberated the camps, to push back against the idea that the nazis were exterminating jews and other minorities?

There was, a prominent US general said they fought the wrong enemy. Later died in an "accident".

Given how the nazis themselves spent years talking about how they would punish the jews, and there is also thousands of tonnes of documentary evidence and testimony..
The only evidence is people taking words out of context like translating "deal with jews" as "kill" Literally wouldn't fly in a normal court.

>>507079951
You were supposed to care about kikes suffering
They dindu nuffin and shieet

>>507079884
Human remains have been found at all major Nazi death camps. At Auschwitz, investigators found large pits full of human ashes and bone fragments. At Treblinka, mass graves and burned human remains were uncovered, and modern radar surveys confirmed this. At Belzec, archaeologists found deep burial pits filled with crushed bones.

The Nazis tried to hide their crimes by digging up bodies and burning them, then scattering the ashes or burying them in pits. Ashes don’t form big mountains — they were often mixed with soil or dumped in rivers and ponds.

At Majdanek, 7 tons of human ashes were found, which shows how many people were killed and burned.

Cremation was done both in ovens and on huge outdoor fires. This evidence has been studied and confirmed in court trials and by forensic experts. The claim that there is no physical evidence of mass extermination is false.

>>507080007
Wrong, he said that the us should have fought the soviets after the war. Not that the US should not have fought the nazis.

>>507079951
>The holocaust didn't happen, but what difference does it make if it did
I like it

>>507078730
BOTH of the two main points of WW2 both come from only two SS officers and have zero confirmation.

1)Hitler dressed up some Convicts as border guards then dress up some SS as Polish guards, etc, etc. Funny in spite of all the many top level guys and official authorizations that story would require, no one besides that one guy remembers any of it. Story had to be invent by Robert Jackson because otherwise Germany acted legally, and it was Allies that broke the law to start WW2.

2)Red Cross were duped and led around during inspections. The lone SS man who produced that story for The Jews did so only several months after VE Day, thus all Red Cross inspectors were safely back in their home nations, not under any threat by Nazis. The obvious would of course be to ask the inspectors themselves. Never happened. Guess what DOES happen if you in ANY way prevent an inspector from inspecting? :)
They mostly wont say anything at the moment, when they are on your turf, but the second they get back to their office they VERY much report they weren't able to complete the inspection, and point finger at WTF they weren't allowed to inspect. ANOTHER thingy about inspectors is they ALWAYS are "in charge" and THEY choose where to look. You'd be better off trying to hide something by trying to lead the inspector to that location.
The SS man only released that story AFTER it was far too late to hatch any counter story or otherwise RETCON. These inspectors would be fairly educated and active Do-Gooders, who'd no doubt written countless letters to frens, senpai and co-workers about their exploits inside 3rd Reich. Also no doubt in touch with lots of important Jews they'd met in the Kamps.
Unless Red Cross was "duped" and fully co-operated with entire Holocaust as active mass murderers, the Holocaust all falls apart.

>>507080000
wrong

Eli Wiesel's Night was first published in Yiddish in 1956

>>507079533
how does it smell ?

>>507080133
No, that is all totally nonsense

The Gleiwitz incident and other false-flag claims were part of Nazi propaganda, but the invasion of Poland was clearly planned and documented by German leadership, not just fabricated by one SS officer or Robert Jackson. The Red Cross conducted inspections but was limited by the Nazis; however, many reports and testimonies from survivors, liberators, and captured documents independently confirm the Holocaust beyond any single SS account.

>>507080030
all those camps were found by soviet soldiers, shitwit
you're asking why none of them protested against their government's jewish lies
You're a fucking retard

>>507079814
>Eisenhauer visited the camps and said "The things I saw beggar description... The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were... overpowering"
Sauce?

>>507077908 (OP)
>mountain of evidence
there is stronger historical evidence for the Japanese holocaust than for the jewish one

>>507079900
>Churchill also gave various speeches where he referred to gassings and shootings
Sauce.

>>507077908 (OP)
There were no cameras at the liberation of the holiday camps so all the footage we have of jews in the camps are literally actors

>>507080226
Kinda rich coming from that genocidal bastard

>>507077908 (OP)
I don’t believe they would have spent 300kg of coal cremating each body, what a waste of resources

>>507080030
>Human remains have been found at all major Nazi death camps
You need to post proof.

>>507080207
Boring and irrelevant

The main Nazi extermination camps like Auschwitz and Treblinka were mostly liberated by Soviet soldiers. However, American and British forces freed other camps where many prisoners died from starvation, disease, and executions, such as Bergen-Belsen, Dachau, and Mauthausen.

>>507080306
they haven't exhumed a single dead kike from en of these locations

>>507080302
The figure is wrong, but even if it was correct....its almost as if they were nazis or something

>>507080358
How is the figure wrong? This is from the energy of boiling one corpse of water and clumping of calcium in bones/proteins in the 1940s

>>507080358
>Be German
>autistic engineers
>fighting a war on two fronts
I know let's waste resources for no good reason!

Let's fuck around building fake shower blocks to trick jews into have a wash so we can secretly gas them!

>>507080351
No, thats just wrong

They didnt even have to exhume them at treblinka, there were bodies visible on the surface until the 60s

Holocaust denial is just white people doing their best impression of jews

>>507077908 (OP)
Much of this >>507078845
And, just from only some of the Soviet archives being opened after the collapse of the USSR, it was revealed the Soviets greatly exaggerated the numbers of deaths that occurred at Auschwitz (the informational plaque outside of Auschwitz, that had been there for 40 years by that point, was quietly replaced in the 90s from the one that contained numbers based on the Soviet lies) and it was revealed that the Soviets were the true perpetrators of the Katyn massacre and that they blamed it on the Germans. The very fact that discrepancies exist over numbers of deaths and who caused those deaths, due to deliberate works of lies and propaganda, should have been enough reason for every "holocaust denial" law to cease existing and for people to question every facet of it just as they freely do anything else. Both world wars were heavily propagandized, and to this day, disagreements still exist over the first world war, but only the second carries criminal penalties if you question the official narrative.

>>507080000
The Holocaust per Halley's Bible Handbook

1962 Edition
<nothing>

2007 Edition
With their claims that there are superior and inferior individuals and races, late-19th-century movements such as Social Darwinism and Monism contributed to anti-Semitism. Thus, at the end of World War I there was resentment against Jews and other ethnic groups who were viewed as inferior, especially in Germany and Eastern Europe. When economic depression and hyperinflation in Germany became severe in the 1930s, many people blamed the Jews because of their history of success in banking and business. This made it easy for Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime to devise the “final solution,” an attempt to exterminate the Jews by mass killings. They first used the techniques of the medieval Caliph Omar I: they required all Jews to wear a yellow Star of David and instituted restrictions, such as curfews and exclusion from conducting certain types of business or social activity. They succeeded in killing more than 6 million Jews, thus significantly reducing the Jewish population of Europe.

>>507078322
Oh dear.
Everyone used asbestos as a fire retardant.
No one knew it was dangerous until years later.
Derp.

>>507080139
>Eli "The Weasel" Wiesel
was outed as an imposter, and never at Auschwitz and probably never in Poland during WW2.

for over a decade prior to his death he stonewalled on a few obvious questions about his ID and real name.

He also got the basic layout of the Kamp all wrong.

I might not be able to get every room number right from memory of my old grammar school, but I know where the gym was in relation to teacher's lounge and office and how it was organized in relation to k-5 grades.

>>507080433
Yes, they lost the war because they were Nazis..

Not a single good anti holocaust argument has been presented thus far...

Very disappointing.

>>507080450
There has been no permitted archaeological investigations of any dead kike remains. They covered over one of these sites with granite boulders to prevent geophysics analysis

>>507080096
Bullshit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton

>>507080493
take it up with the retard who said that it was published in the 70s and is the origin of the holocaust story.

>>507080498
do you accept this fact presented here you filthy jew cunt
>>507080241

>>507079087
meanwhile in 1941 when the soviet union and usa gained 5.5 million jewish population the territory map looked like this

>>507077908 (OP)
I really wish it happened, there’s too many filthy kikes

>>507080450
>They didnt even have to exhume them at treblinka, there were bodies visible on the surface until the 60s
So where is the proof?
It's amazing how you can keep referring to evidence proving the holocaust. But can't seem to post any.

>>507080325
It's not irrelevant when your argument literally runs
>extermination camps were real, otherwise soviet soldiers who found them would have protested their government's lies
Btw, many prisoners died in Allied camps too. See >>507080292

meanwhile in 1941 when the soviet union and usa gained 5.5 million jewish population the territory map looked like this. hmmm

>>507077908 (OP)
>Why was there no massive outcry from the soldiers
because the soldiers, being idiot mutts killed a good chunk of the kikes themselves by feeding them lavish meals right after their "liberation". If you've been starving, eating a lot will inevitably kill you, but the mutts had no idea and did what the Russians did with their massacres: blamed in on the Germans.

>>507080665
And how many bodies were cremated in your estimation op?

>>507077908 (OP)
Is she a survivor™ too bro? It seems they get younger every year

>>507080811
New survivors™ are born every year it’s called generational trauma goyim

>>507077908 (OP)
>there is also thousands of tonnes of documentary evidence and testimony

Actually there is not.

>>507077908 (OP)
Why did it take years for Churchill to release his lies on it? Why were the only death camps in USSR liberated areas? Why were documents about the JQ never about murdering? How was a nation that was fighting a war on multiple fronts able to keep massacring jews?
So many questions.. and I didn't even mention israel

>>507080700
Your drunk go take a nap.

>>507078730
>you dont think that its possible they set them up?
Right, the nazis were totally lying, but the USSR was faithful!

>>507079881
I dialed into a BBC program from 2012.
They are using ground penetrating radar instead of digging things up.
Seems inconclusive.

>>507079900
>No need to look into it at all.

But that would be illegal anon, even using ground penetrating radar that doesn't disturb the land is no longer allowed

>>507080192
Nope, I'd had the impression that Gleiwitz was known by Allies during WW2, so I thought I'd do my History class extra credit on the "story behind the story"....how did it leak out it was a false flag, given the area was under Nazi control until at least Feb 1945. Did some reporter uncover it from behind German lines in 1939? Allied Code Crackers but wouldn't they not let on they knew to keep code cracking secret???

Story didn't exist until Robert Jackson found himself in a pickle.

Its a really amazing story! :) Names, dates, facts, figures, locations, every base covered. The greatest "palace intrigue" in human history. Better than any James Bond novel. But somehow, none of can be confirmed it ALL comes from one guy's supported testimony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXGk1f2Wmy8

Actual US Army investigators such as Fleck and Tenenbaum place blame for conditions found by "Liberators" squarely on "Kapos" who they say were entirely "Communists".

"Communist" would be not very code word for "Jew".

Jews victimized the other groups in the Kamps.

The war between ukrain and russia has been going on for 3 years now, with a death toll of around 1 million.

It would take about 18 years of this war to match Hitler's side hustle of jew extermination. It doesn't fucking add up.

>>507077908 (OP)
>>507077908 (OP)
they killed gypsies as well. But no special treatment for them
They killed slavs, but no special treatment for them aswell
Only for jews.

>>507080665
>Posts no proof
>Some shit about ash in the soil
By it being ashes, how the fuck would you even know it's just human remains, honest question. Wouldn't it all be burned to a fucking crisp? Seems weird.
Concentration camps were just that, the death camps all being on Soviet territory is total fucking horseshit. jews fudged the numbers about their forced incarceration but we never get told about the reason why they were so reviled.
After years of propaganda we're supposed to believe we're evil even though year after year you find out more how stereotypes are mostly true, especially with jews and eternal grudges they hold and how incredibly cancerously evil they are as "gods chosen" (((people))). I don't doubt they got rounded up and treated like cattle, the situations were atrocious, they just lied about everything after to guilt-trip the Western world and for that they deserve another round.

I think there is one thing we can all agree on - the jew holocaust didn't happen hard enough.

Shill here trying to convince people to go die for jews.

What do jews need the US bodies for anyway, can Israel, Saudi Arabia and Iraq not take Iran themselves?

>>507081513
No, no you’re missing the point we need more goyim to die

Anne Frank, age progression to 26yrs old. “Anne” was created shortly after WW2 using pics of young Liz as a Psych Op for a few reasons, such as distracting from UK war crimes, as well as armoring Liz against Public Opinion as she began to flood UK with Turd World.

I’m big on Year Books for this sort of research because they will be owned by all sorts of random people up in attics and thus hard to fake.

None of the expected normal shit any of her peers all have, like pics in expensive private school yearbook (yearbooks became a thing for schools, not just colleges, in 1910 due to marketing/PR push).

Her dad was wanted by police for FORGERY.

There are two types of Forgery, making fake docs and INVENTING NEW PEOPLE to get real govt docs. Without checking GESTPO records I can tell you Otto Frank was inventing fake persona.

Why is the ONLY "holocaust victim" that even college professors can actually name a dead ringer for the Jewish usurper who oversaw destruction of The West?

Notice entire “Royal Family” suddenly turned completely Jewish looking after Ed the 8th was run out of the palace just prior to WW2 for being pro-White. Even his own younger brother that replaced him looks very Jewish where as Edward didn’t. Quite common pattern. Husband’s first kid is his, then wife gets bored and cucks him for next kid, knowing he is locked in due to loyalty to his first kid and not wanting to ruin marriage. Of course I’m sure that cuts both ways often enough. Husband strays after home sells like diapers and wife becomes a sloppy mess after 1st kid.

>>507081513
They need special bunker busting bombs.
It may be that Israel dies not have them.

>>507079930
Atleast a gorillion

>>507081188
The holocaust museum in my city got a special wing dedicated to the homosexual victims, with slavs and gypsies being just one of the "others" among the lists. I know this, because I had the misfortune of unknowingly visiting, the one time I went, on the day of the wing's grand opening.

>>507081602
Doubt.
I came across this description of Anne Frank's friend Jacqueline de Maarsten who was not sent to any German camps because she was part Catholic.
After the Frank diary was published, this girl wrote her own memoirs about her friendship with Frank in 1995.

>>507082683
Did Anne Frank's father also forge this memoir published in 1995?
DESU, Jacqueline looks even more like a member of the British royal family.

>>507077908 (OP)
insert the fake shoes diplayed on auswitz here

Germans were meticulous with their records and kept books writing all deaths in the forced labor camps. Of course not all of them survived but around 60% were founds after. They recorded every Jewish death and this was of course millions short from 6 million.

The official narrative is Germans had Jews get off trains, had 90% instantly run to gas chambers to die, cremate the bodies, and then and only then went back to recording the data of every Jews death.

The entire event is filled with shit like this where you can somewhat believe it if it’s a single event but when you have overwhelming occurrences that make you go hmmmm that doesn’t really sound like it makes sense it starts to fall apart. To then make it where you are thrown in jail for questioning it, come on. It’s bullshit.

Jewish supremacy is mainstream now and no one believes the lies

I actually had to go to work.

Glad you are all still demonstrating how fucking gullible you are though. Some people really will believe anything.

>>507078730
It's not about weather it happened or not. I deny it's existence because otherwise I'm expected to worship baby bombing Jews. It's literally good for humanity to deny its existence. You're a midwit good person, you enable more genocide

>>507077908 (OP)
There's a reason all the deathcamps were coincidentally only the ones liberated by Soviet soldiers

>>507083016
Anne Frank was a real person who was sent to a work camp. There was no holocaust.

>>507084582
>I actually had to go to work.
Does your work involve sucking off Jews?
Why do you even care about it, it's hardly worse than the potato famine.

>>507084582
Lampshades and soap? Remember that story that was found out to be false? Did you know the shrunken head story potentially had some validity to it, but was allegedly perpetuated by the "bitch of Buchenwald", the camp commandant's wife, and she was convicted for mistreatment of people held in Buchenwald and lost her privilege to live in military housing in addition to that, along with strong condemnation by the members of the military court. Why would they view her actions as negative and punish her?

>>507083016
there are literally thousands of random honest Goyim who could say at least "Yeah, that guy went to my school".

Anne has IIRC only her father and two Jews that claim she ever existed.

>>507077908 (OP)
And each time it happens its because the juden dont know how to act civilized. First time was the romans second Time the Germans and who gone do it a third time?

Its like they are begging for it to happen.

>>507077908 (OP)
>liberated the camps

Hey theys a PARTY goin on

>>507077908 (OP)
The real holocaust

>>507085636
Even those photos were fake

>>507080030

And what is your source for all these tabloid headlines?

>>507085426
>First time was the romans
And they'll always leave out the fact that it started because some jews got angry at some nearby Roman soldiers who wouldn't arrest some Greeks slaughtering a goose across the fucking street from their temple (because they didn't commit a crime; gee, those jews sure have a thing about threating Roman officials with violence and riots if innocent people aren't punished by them for just making jews angry) so they chimped out, rioted, killed Roman soldiers, and eventually took control of Jerusalem. That's why Titus burned their fucking temple, because the Romans were tired of Jewish violence and riots over bullshit like this and the ones that occurred almost yearly at Passover in Jerusalem.

>>507084637
Strange kind of "death" camps

>>507077908 (OP)
Ok and?

>>507084889
I didn’t knew that, very interesting.

Ilse Koch and her Husband, the KZ director Karl Otto Koch, are prosecuted from the Gestapo for stealing from KZ inmates and murder in 1943.
he was prosecuted for the shooting of three fleeing KZ inmates
Karl Otto Koch got sentenced to death snd executed by the SS

>be director of a KZ to manage the mass incarnation and murder of Jews
>three fleeing inmates are getting shot
>get sentenced to death for murder by the gestapo and ss

That doesn’t make sense…

>>507077908 (OP)

>>507084488

>>507085812

>those photos
Fake?
Have you ever in your life seen a jeweyer bunch of jews?

>>507077908 (OP)
they told the a they were heros and b that the dead bodies were because of the germans when really it was because of them. I also heard they brought tons of guys in after they brought all the dead civilians and soldiers bodies there and there are soldiers who come out about it.

>>507077908 (OP)

>>507080458
>Soviet archives being opened after the collapse of the USSR
How do you explain the fact that these Soviet archives contained no evidence of their "fabrication of the holocaust"?

>>507086642
do you have the picture that shows that behind the shoes thereis an empty wall?

>>507077908 (OP)
The real blackpill is knowing the sufi muslims rule the world

>>507086784
Who are you quoting there, chaim? Me?

>>507086716
Of course they're kikes but those were staged photos taken much later just like the chimney connected to nothing they built

>>507086952
Yes, why don't you answer the question?

>>507077908 (OP)
The Jewish population is miracle. Look it up. The number they have today does not track, given the supposed genocide.

>>507078730

>>507086784

And who, in the Media, would have been responsible for those reports?

>>507078882

>https://holocaust.claims
Any anon wants a non retard answer go to here

You can get real evidence based answers without the tropes they attack you for

>>507087018
Certainly, I will as soon as you show me where I said what you quoted.

>>507078990

>>507086884
This one?
>>507086775
Wasn't this the pool where they glued a penny to the bottom and hundreds of thousands of kikes drowned trying to get it?

>>507087200
Oh, so you're not suggesting that the mainstream holocaust narrative is soviet propaganda? Who do you think fabricated the holocaust, then?

>>507079087

>>507086326
Yeah, there's a reason you don't hear much about them nor their case in the textbooks, or people might have some dangerous ideas of it not making sense. Maybe he didn't fill out a form or something, you know how those nazis were about documents.

>>507079184

>>507079214

>>507087343
Speaking of documents

>>507077908 (OP)
>Why was there no massive outcry from the soldiers who liberated the camps, to push back against the idea that the nazis were exterminating jews and other minorities?
the narrative started in the 1960s

>>507087308
I think we (the victors) all came together to add our own little touch in there, immediately after the war and much later, because there needed to be some strong justifications for the war and upholding a conviction of war crimes that would override any justifications the Germans had for their own actions; much like Justice Robert Jackson was concerned about when he said that if Nuremberg were to be tried as a standard, above- board trial, it wouldn't have the outcome Roosevelt was hoping for, due to events prior to the war and internal documents amongst the Germans who felt they were being surrounded and strangle by the geopolitical interests of Britain and France.

>Haavara Agreement 1933
Israel would not take their poor so they rotted in DEPORTATION camps.

>>507078730
Gee I hope they didn't let the red cross talk to anyone...
Retard

>>507080139
Esl read it again

>>507080192
Can you show a source for one of these survivors?

>>507087745
>I think we (the victors) all came together to add our own little touch in there, immediately after the war and much later
The mainstream holocaust narrative actually began forming during the war - for example, the first reports about the mass shootings in the east surfaced in 1941, and first reports about the camps came out about a year later. Why do you not know this?

Ok jew cuck.

Keep in mind that when pressed jews and their hordes of kike cock sucking trash the holocaust would still exists if only a jew was exterminated in the camps. 1 single jew in a camp is enough for jews to claim the holocaust happened

>>507088122
Concentration camps, not death camps, have been used since Britain used them in South Africa in the 19th century. If the use of concentration camps are an automatic guilt of ovening people, then I guess we threw japs in the ovens in our own concentration camps and the Brits did the same to the Boers. And as far as the mass shootings, who were the sources? The same sources about events like Katyn?

>>507077908 (OP)
>Why was there no massive outcry from the soldiers who liberated the camps, to push back against the idea that the nazis were exterminating jews and other minorities?
soviets

>>507077908 (OP)
IDK man. Not 1 german document mentions the mass murder of jews, the soviets modified the camps post war to make them look more homicidal. Go visit auschwitz today, look at the wooden doors on the "gas chamber" then tell me you still believe that room was used to gas people

>>507077908 (OP)
Her penis slipped out of her bathing suit.

>>507088439
The first reports on mass shootings in the east came from British intelligence decodes of German radio traffic. The first reports on the extermination camps came from the Polish resistance. Are you also aware that the soviet archives that you've mentioned earlier *also* contained reports of mass shootings of the Jews (from the NKVD).
This is literally the first time you're hearing about his, correct?

>>507077908 (OP)
>The holocaust actually happened
It didn't. Zyklon B is a delousing agent.

>>507088761
the camps were in use after the war, soviets held there poles, czechs, silesians and rutenians - anyone deconsipred for being resistance and/or could have means to fight soviet occupation went straight there. last prisoners were released in 1952.

>>507088885
There were work camps but no death camps.

>>507088761
>Not 1 german document mentions the mass murder of jews,
Imbecile, you're supposed to say that all the German documents that mention the mass murder of the Jews are fake. How are you going to deny their authenticity now, when you've admitted that you're not even aware that they exist?

>>507077908 (OP)

There were no camps
And there were no "soldiers" liberating camps

>>507078730
Hypothetical:
US losing war, won't surrender
Japan and Nazis invade US homeland
they bomb entire cities and supply routes
millions of civilians perish
they liberate Japanese internment camps that haven't been resupplied in months

What do they find?

The axis win the war
Victors write history
Axis needs a way to demonize the allies to make their conquest "good"
Would they use what they found in the interment camps?

Congrats, you've begun your WW2 deprogramming, next assignment is to look up US starving millions of German POWs to death. And don't use Google. Your homework is to answer why the US didn't build gas showers and crematoriums to kill all those, mostly conscripted, German POWs. As we all know, gas showers and crematoriums are peak genocide optimization.
After that your assignment is to look up the number "6 million" in reference to Jews, in any publication prior to 1938.

Then your assignment is to imagine what the world would look like if being a good person came almost exclusively from your genes, where developmental environment accounted for very little variance. How would you go about securing a future for those good-gened people, considering the extermination threat that bad-gened people pose? What political movements are you starting to resemble when you do this?

Your final assignment is to ask yourself, if you had to restart life, with perfect genes in a bad environment, or bad genes in a perfect environment, which would rather you choose?

Once you've finished this, please sit silently looking out the window for a while. You'll need it. Good luck!

>>507088940
The real death camps came after

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>>507088816
Right, the same Britain who had a secret deal with Poland prior to the war that they would declare war on Germany, but never made one over the Soviets who had been expanded west since the end of WW1, and even told Poland to eat shit when Poland asked for help against the Soviets. I too remember how the Kaiser's army was sticking babies onto bayonets, so surely no one has any interests at stake, like maintaining regional hegemony, to lie on others or exaggerate claims.
See, if there were already deliberate lies found once (more than once, in reality), then it's reasonable to not take everything at face value nor as genuine intel and information.

>>507077908 (OP)
you don't seem to know history. red cross investigated the holocaust bullshit at the end of WW2 and found nothing to substantiate any sort of death camp. they had medical care, entertainment, living quarters, etc in the camps and red cross labeled them "labor camps" as a result. general patton also said they looked like nothing more than places to hold people but he remarked on how filthy the jewish areas of the camp were, how they smelled like shit and the synagogue seemed to be the source of it.

nobody talked about "the holocaust" after the nuremberg trials which were VERY obfuscated at the time, the whole torture and it not being an actual legal process wasn't known until the 50s when jews decided they were gonna take the USA on, that's when they attacked the USS Liberty too

history has been consistent on this topic, the people recounting it make up stuff to suit their agenda

but red cross did a FULL labor camp investigation and found no death camps. jews hate red cross because of it, they claim it's because jesus and cross = antisemitic but they didn't support the holocaust bullshit which is the real reason

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>>507089534
*expanding west.

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>>507077908 (OP)
I thought this was a black woman before I zoomed in

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>>507089039
too bad germany tried to buy madagascar and even OFFERED TO PAY JEWS TO LEAVE IF THEY JUST LEFT PEACEFULLY but nah, so they were held in camps. i wish hitler was what jews pretend he was, he would have really put a dent in the neanderthal gene pool but nah, he didn't, he tried to act white when acting like a nigger would have been a better outcome

>>507088816
TRUST US GOY, WE DECODED IT, NO YOU CAN'T SEE ANY PROOF, DON'T BE ANTISEMETIC lol

>>507089534
But this isn't just your run-of-the-mill atrocity propaganda, right? This is one of the dominant narratives of the war - an enormous undertaking - mountains of evidence, testimony etc. need to be fabricated, mountains of other evidence and testimony need to be hidden. And this brings us back to the beginning. So the Soviet Union collapses, and its crimes are revealed in the archives. I mean, we literally have the document where Stalin orders the shooting of Polish officers in Katyn. We have files on the gulags, everything. But for some reason, There are literally no mentions of the biggest propaganda operation of all time. How come?

>>507089923
>NO YOU CAN'T SEE ANY PROOF,
Yes you can, but you're just gonna call it fake anyway, so what's the point?

>>507086775
lmao that reminds me of the sims

>>507090162
Why are you still trying to argue me on your contrived point that you then attributed to me? I have literally never said the Soviets were the sole architects and participants of a German smear campaign. What I said was that I'm not going to buy the official narrative 100% because there has been lies exposed about the details and extents of it already, and there were very clear geopolitical motives to lie and exaggerate, even essentially many of the same ones that existed during the first world war, and that questioning it shouldn't be criminalized.

>>507090162
They also didn't open the entirety of the Soviet archives, and you're only allowed a very limited amount of time to view the documents that are available, and not allowed to record with cameras, last I checked.

>>507077908 (OP)
>muh holocaust
I don't care if it did or didn't. It doesn't absolve any specific group from being judged for their individual or group actions in the present or future. It also don't burden or curse any group to indefinite restitution for the behavior of their ancestors.

There's an inconsistency to the application of standards here that nobody should be comfortable with. You can't claim absolution for one group, and collective guilt for another without clear duplicity.

>>507077908 (OP)
That narrative wasn't pushed until the 1960's. The soldiers dutifully said, "I was there. I saw prisoners and piles of bodies." But they didn't report seeing BRIGHT PINK bodies. Which they would have if Zyklon B was used to kill prisoners. Nor did they report seeing evidence of 11 million murders by Zyklon B, cremation and the mass burial of ash. Which was said to have happened in just three years. Because those narratives weren't crafted yet and there was no mass extermination program. Why are your masters still so hard for WWII Holohoax narratives? Because the Nazis made their own central bank and currency in 1933. The Reichsbank and the Reichsmark. If you learn about that essential power, you get extremely competitive with the elite of the elite. And that's why it's illegal to question the Holohoax in many countries.

>>507091304
>>507091439
>I have literally never said the Soviets were the sole architects and participants of a German smear campaign.
But you have completely failed to explain why we don't have evidence of this "smear campaign"
Again, isn't it weird that all the internal war-time NKVD documents that were uncovered from the archives treat the holocaust as a real thing?

>>507077908 (OP)
It happened by accident and it wasn't 6 goriilion

>>507086642
>argentina
checks out.
why are you lying? Have you read Zdzisław Łukaszkiewicz account? If so, point me to a source supporting your claim

>>507090162
it's impossible to prove something like that, you can't prove everything. i can't prove i just ate a biscuit 30 mins ago but i did.

you gotta be a real fucking idiot to think there were death camps AND Stanisława Leszczyńska worked at the auschwitz maternity ward (lol) long enough to deliver 3000-5000 babies in a DEATH CAMP DEATH CAMP DEATH CAMP lol

c'mon, no matter what you can't avoid the reality that kikes are lying about it. we know they lie, it's their virtue, they know they're lying, we've caught kikes like Joseph Hirt lying so much he even admitted it (fake holocaust survivor, fake tattoo, 1,211 holocaust speaking engagements as a fake), we have red cross, US army brass, etc saying there were no death camps and even the late 40s in the USA nobody knew wtf the holocaust was, that shit came about publicly after 1950. you young faggots don't realize that before 1995, you learned from other people, outdated encyclopedias/books or reality. USA was no pro-jew in WW2, all polls showed them around 80-90% AGAINST joining WW2, but you actually believe that as soon as WW2 was over everyone felt bad for jews and it was only about jews

nobody gave a fuck about them until boomers grew up, that's when america started loving jews, before that they had to make backroom deals with crooked politicians

>>507080192
vid rel spastic

>>507091784
the whole zyklon B was just a low IQ neanderkike thinking it was a super dangerous gas and that's all he could come up with. you can't imagine something more deadly if you don't know something more deadly, but they all were ready to pop off about zyklon-B which they DID see but that also supports the typhus explanation which 100% explains every holocaust story except crazy bullshit about wank off machines from kikes. it explains Stanisława Leszczyńska, it explains why everyone is a survivor of a death camp lol, it explains why there was no unusual change in the census concerning the jewish population, it explains why jews are a problem today, etc

jews aren't good liars but you gotta be white to understand this

>>507091996
>i can't prove i just ate a biscuit 30 mins ago but i did.
Are you retarded? Of course you can prove you ate a cookie 30 minutes ago, you just throw it up. Much better use of everyone's time than reading the vomit that makes up your post.

>>507079184
here you fucking no nothing dimwit have another piece of history

>>507091865
>But you have failed to prove my contrived point that I said you made.
Ok, well let me know if/when I do or don't in your head canon.

>>507092339
I accept your surrender.

>>507080192
you neanderkikes hate the red cross investigation, destroys every holocaust narrative lol

wasn't just them though, jews hope white people WHO HAVE HIGHER IQs will forget real history and that's not how it works

>>507092305
i never said i ate a cookie, see how things get twisted up by you kikes? it's in your blood, that's why that blood needs to be spilled for human blood to move forward. you are the anchor of humanity and you'll eventually wear down to nothing and we'll be free

so why wait? do what's right and pay for the sins of your neanderthal fathers. it's the right thing to do. pay the ultimate price.

>>507092504
Lol ok. What a thrilling conclusion to the production from inside your head.

Jews were put into labor camps were conditions were often times unfavorable and subsequently many of them died of disease and starvation which is also something that happened to about two dozen other groups of people in WW2 alone, let alone the entire 20th century. It was unfortunate but hardly anything special. But all this talk about gas chambers, electrical floors and masturbation machines was made up after the fact to dramatize the experience for profit. People really need to look into the post war money making scheme the holocaust became for Jews. Innumerable "memoirs" were published, many of which actually made it into school curriculums as teaching tools which ended up shaping the perception of the holocaust like "the Painted Bird", yet which all turned out to be fake. Elie Wiesel ended up winning a Nobel prize off of the back of his lies and his fake memoirs. Never mind the billions in "reparations" various Jewish organizations managed to wring out of various countries (none of which went to any of the "victims" because they were "unable to be located").
The amount of Jews that became rich and famous off of the Holocaust is incredible.
I'm not even a nazitard btw, I'm just looking at it from a purely historical interest for the sake of accuracy.

>>507092871
>I'm just looking at it from a purely historical interest for the sake of accuracy.
Since you are interested in historical accuracy, can you tell us, for example, why the Nazis also sent old people, children (i.e. people unable to work) to these so-called labour camps?

>>507092322
Is there a source of those reported numbers from ausschwitz?

>>507092270
How can anyone listening to this stuff and thinking, yep that’s what probably happened?

>>507093152
Because they also functioned as internment camps meant to isolate Jews from society during a period of war before they could otherwise be dealt with or relocated. Same reason Japs put entire Dutch families in camps in Indonesia without the explicit intent to exterminate them all (even though the conditions were poor and many of them did indeed die).

>>507088205
Oh the door is an easy one. See before the Russian got to Oświęcim, our people got their first. The country was ravaged by years of war. Every door. window, the barbed wire etc are all reconstructions, because the originals (including the sign, that had to be recovered) were taken by farmers.
Interesting fun, just after wars end a lot of people who had no were to go back (Poles from pre WWII eastern Poland, which after the war ended up in USSR) , lived in the camp buildings that belonged to the guards and administration.

>>507093197
>Ignore a difference of over 1/3 of the magic number.
>There's no reason to question anything, goy.

>>507093709
>Because they also functioned as internment camps meant to isolate Jews from society
The Nazis have isolated the Jews from the society via the process of ghettoization. It's also worth pointing out that some of the extermination camps could obviously not have served as internment camps, because they were too small.

>>507093641
They have a whole propaganda machine to help them spread their bullshit for decades. Meanwhile they want you to completely ignore their crimes during their "independence war" in 1948 and all the other massacres they comitted

>>507077908 (OP)
Guess what fucko I don’t believe it, and it happened so long ago it means nothing beyond the fact that kikes use it as a tool

>>507077908 (OP)

>>507094399
>The Nazis have isolated the Jews from the society via the process of ghettoization
Initially, then they moved them to concentration camps, which better serve the purpose of concentrating people and keeping an eye on them, and is why other nations also used concentration camps when they wanted to concentrate people in one area and keep an eye on them.

>>507094518
This

>>507094895
I won't respond to you until you admit that there is no archival evidence that the holocaust was fabricated (even though there should be).

>>507094399
Evidently ghettos were not a satisfactory level of removal from society to the Nazis. Whatever the case may be, nations putting "undesirable" people they don't quite know what to do with into camps during war time was nothing special during WW2 (or before that, for that matter) and pretty much practiced by all the major players.

>>507095147
>I won't respond to you
You just did, though.

>>507095244
>Whatever the case may be, nations putting "undesirable" people they don't quite know what to do with into camps during war time was nothing special during WW2
What the Nazis did during WWII was actually very special, because they tried to deport Jews into their camps (mostly in Poland) from all over Europe, including from countries the Nazis didn't even occupy (something some other pro-nazi posters ITT declared as absurd, what with the Germans fighting a war on two fronts and all).

i was holocausted just yesterday, it wasnt so bad i think jews are just pussies.

>>507095735
What are you even arguing at this point? Yes, the Nazis were intent on removing Jews from society and as such sent them to internment/labor camps in Eastern Europe where they were subject to harsh conditions and many of them died because of it. But what doesn't follow from that is that 6 million of were being milked to death by masturbation machines or other such tomfoolery. People will speak of extermination camps but then when you point out that Auschwitz had an infirmary and specifically tasked a division of the SS with improving conditions in it so that less Jews would die and could be kept around for labor they flip flop around and say "of course, it was a labor camp". You can't have it both ways.

>>507096805
>What are you even arguing at this point?
You're trying to draw parallel to e.g. The Japanese interment camps in the USA, but that just straight out doesn't work, because US did it for security reasons (real or imagined) *in the US*. You don't seem to realize how bizarre your narrative of the final solution of the Jewish question is in the context of the German military and economic situation in WW2. Mind you, the Jewish deportations continued all the way to 1944.

>>507096805
He's trying to rope any and all doubts people have under an umbrella of complete holocaust denial by fishing around what you're saying and bringing up other points that are tertiary to whatever you talk about, and apply a narrative of holocaust denial to it. It's a shitty and dishonest "debate tactic" that relies on you biting on each thing he brings up from any direction so he has control over guidance of the narrative.

>>507097970
Then compare them to various gulags across the Soviet union that had been around for decades or the interment camps of Imperial Japan across all of Asia during WW2, or the American concentration camps during the Philippine-American war, which are much more similar to German camps. You clearly know this but you just had to pick the least analogous example to sidetrack the conversation into some inane detail just like noted >>507098788

>>507077908 (OP)
>>507078882
>Why was there no massive outcry from the soldiers who liberated the camps, to push back against the idea that the nazis were exterminating jews and other minorities?

Because that idea didn't exist in the minds of the public until the 1970's, when the Holocaust myth was in invented. Note that not a single autobiography of the main leaders and war-fighters of World War 2 mentions anything about gas chambers or a systematic killing of Jews.

>>507099566
It's not comparable at all. For example, why did the Americans send civilians into concentration camps in the Philippines? Because they were waging a scorched-earth style military campaign against guerillas, and they sought to deprive them of local support. They did not demand that *other countries* give up their Filipino population so that it could be concentrated in interment camps in the US.

>>507081112
They won't allow further investigations.
Excavating it like an archaeological site and gathering DNA evidence would go far as proof of the claims.

>>507100457
Because those other countries would not have been allied nations, nor other lands with U.S. administration in them, in close proximity, nor sharing a land border, to what the U.S. was occupying, unlike the situation with Germany.
>Send these people, that we do not trust, to us and we'll handle them, so if they cause shit, I don't have to divide my forces to bail you out or go into your country to handle it.
It's part of the reason they did shit like leave a group of Germans along the Bulgaria/Yugoslavia border, so partisans wouldn't start fucking shit up in Bulgaria or potentially getting cross-border support from sympathizers in Bulgaria. It's akin to the reason we, along with Canada invaded Greenland, so its land couldn't be used against us due to it's close proximity or how we secretly invaded Cambodia during Vietnam because of how VC were using the border and sympathizer there to their advantage.

>>507077908 (OP)
Public opinion is shifting, does not matter what your opinion is OP.

>>507102591
Should I take your post as an acknowledgment that there is no archival evidence supporting the claim that the holocaust was fabricated?

>there is mountains of evidence which suggest that they did try to do it

That's the neat thing: there actually isn't.

>>507102766
You're really bad at this tactic. Should I take your post as an acknowledgment that the Soviet archives have very strict and even discretionary measures in place on access, strict measures and even outright bans on copies and photographs of documents, and that not everything from them has been made accessible?

>>507104083
Yeah, right, I suppose the Russians would rather release documents regarding the millions of people they murdered instead of releasing even one document suggesting they made up the Holocaust. Get real.

>>507104874
Anon, that doesn't sound like you're saying that I'm wrong about how the Soviet archives have very strict and even discretionary measures in place on access, strict measures and even outright bans on copies and photographs of documents, and that not everything from them has been made accessible.

I (((NOTICE))) in the last two weeks there have been a bunch of anti Irish posts by JIDF and now in the last couple of days they have started posting their Hasbara kike lies using my sweet Irish tricolour, name the jew, i denounce the Talmud

>>507105995
I see you're surrendering again. You shouldn't have mentioned the archives in the first place. This is what happens when you try to pretend to be smart and criticize mainstream history without knowing it. Because if you did, you'd realize that the archives don't help your position at all.

>>507106679
>"I-I won't respond to you"
>Responded anyways
Honestly, anon, how can anyone even trust what you say?