https://youtu.be/X_GXa6VZTuU?si=vAVbBtaPM1uI1QKA

What are the political implications? Are you excited for the new CPUs?

>>507079850 (OP)
This new competition is sure to reduce prices and incentivize further meaningful development in the field.
Right, guys?

>>507079850 (OP)
Are they buying out Intel divisions

>>507080060
I think they worked with mediatek on this.

They should just stick with data center PCs where you can run a shitload of ARM clusters for less power consumption/heat than an Intel/AMD equivalent. Windows on ARM/X86-64 instruction translations on ARM is still shit.

Nvidia has been making cpus for years

>customers concerned about things they have no control over.

like voters with politics.

They will specialize in AI shit now and try to have the unit also handle other shit like operating systems. Those won't be truly generalist chips.

>>507079850 (OP)
PS
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>>507080225
I'm not knowledgeable about x86 vs arm but I have seen people say that x86 was plateauing and in order to move forward everyone was going to have to switch to arm eventually. I don't know how x86 is plateauing or why arm would work better moving forward though. I have a bit of a clearer picture about physical transistor limits and Moore's law and have the same view that AI may be what allows us to get around those hard physical limits.

>>507079850 (OP)
Nice pedo swirl + eye combo they got there

>>507080349
Haha good point, pontiac shat out the aztec with no regard for what the public would want, just will it sell

>>507080427
An x86 chip needs to support a great deal more hardware instructions than an ARM one equivalent in performance, and thus be a lot more complicated and power-hungry.
In theory ARM chips should be cheaper at a given level of performance, but they lack the economy of scale yet.
Were it not for the entrenchment of Windows and DirectX in the PC industry, the switch would already have happened.
Look how badly Mac ARM chips mog x86 ones in terms of performance-per-watt.

>>507080860
Nice, so Nvidia pushing forward with this just might help facilitate the transition.

>>507080860
A lot of that performance per watt is also having the RAM literal millimeters away from the CPU. The sheer bandwidth of the Mac Pro CPU series is insane, but also means you can't upgrade that shit.

finally, instead of having a cpu with no drivers and a housefire GPU, I can have a cpu housefire and a GPU with no drivers

>>507080427
>I don't know how x86 is plateauing or why arm would work better moving forward though
it's heat
>have the same view that AI may be what allows us to get around those hard physical limits.
it won't because the limitation is the substrate, the silicon. we need a new one.

>>507079850 (OP)
>2.5 GHz
I sleep

>>507079850 (OP)
arm core
so trash
arm core to reach worse performance of x86-64 and use more power

lolololololl snap dragon laptop failure already shows this.

>>507079987
AMD conveniently ladder pulls their small stock when people are buying it out in 10 minutes
I called newegg yesterday to get a small discount or faster shipping on 9070 xt and the most the HR roasties could offer me is 10 dollars and I will never forget this
Gaming being infected by corporates and fags was a horrible mistake

>>507079850 (OP)
>non x86
who cares

>>507081152
What I meant was using silicon for AI might eventually be better than for running raw conventional computation, once AI infrastructure becomes more mature and integrated. Like the transition from autistically processing hard physical reality as a nomadic hunter gatherer to distributing thinking through society and culture.

Look at how Nvidia's dlss is trained on an enormous supercomputer running nonstop but the consumer benefits from that with a relative handful of tensor cores on their dgpu

>>507081414
retards that still believe in the arm meme.

>>507081282
>falling for the megahertz myth in currentyear

>>507081001
didn't the PS3 do something like this it only had like 256mb of ram but it was basically part of the cpu so it could refresh really fast or something. the ps4 had 32 times as much ram and was kind of a garbage console very laggy OS and the ps4 pro was dogshit

>>507081601
PS3 was a laggy as fuck OS also. PS4's issue was sticking with a god damn 5400rpm drive still as the default kit. Should have just used a 7200RPM, then sneak SSDs into them in the mid-gen refresh when the price-per-gb finally got reasonable.

>>507081601
PS3 used XDR memory which was a competitor to DDR at that time.
It was very good in terms of latency but not so good in bandwidth, for the time
The PS3's memory architecture was a bit strange for a console in that it had 512MB of total memory divided into 256MB main RAM and VRAM, but the CPU and GPU can both do DMA with each, leaving it to devs to work out which was faster in production.
The Xbox 360 was basically the PS3 with unified memory, DDR2 instead of XDR and a much less complicated CPU arch.
The PS3 could in theory get much better CPU performance than the 360, but it didn't normally work that way in practice.

>>507081451
In the 80's software producers were limited by cost of hardware. Hardware consumers were not able to afford high performance hardware, so software producers had to work around that problem by getting good at their job. All kinds of innovative tricks were used to squeeze the last drop of performance out of available hardware. The tech industry you see around you today is a product of that extreme meritocracy that was created in the 80's. Imagine if other industries employed meritocracy rather than nepotistic cronyism? Hopefully the tech industry will go through another 80's like period. I think we're already seeing it with the mass lay-offs in silicon valley. I'd rather we went that route. Imagine in 50 years time if somebody said to you
>here you are anon we've got a spaceship that can take you to Mars, we don't know how it works because the AI made it, it works though.
would you be happy to just jump aboard that spaceship with your kids and grandkids?

>>507079850 (OP)
The NPC favourite brand.

>>507081466
arm will eventually overtake x86
but it's not yet

>>507079850 (OP)
I've had at least 7 Nvidia GPUs either be dead on arrival or die prematurely. Also Jensen (the J stands for Jewish) is conspiring with his cousin Lisa Su to keep AMD's GPU artificially gimped.

They can all get fucked and I can't wait for China to steal their lunch.

>>507082488
I think when AI reaches a certain point most use cases for end users will consider it a waste of silicone to use something other than ai to do whatever it is the user wants it to do. Even extending past end users to creators and dev tools for visual or audio mediums. Like game engines.
There will always be a place for the most competent and a reason to have professionals with a rigorous, low level understanding of the systems in question.

All I was referring to was how valuable the silicon was based on how it was used. You can take an f1 car off road and it will look like a worthless junk heap.

>>507079850 (OP)
Lemme guess
the highest end are made in fabs from Taiwan?
Why doesn't the US just nuke the Chinks and Taiwan and cut off China from advanced chips for good already, would probably be cheaper since no shipping and tariffs and this fucking GPUs won't have to be 10k for a fucking 5090
Also we should stop selling semiconductors to nigger countries while we are at it

>>507082488
China might be going through what you described in the 80's right now:
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/1kytohv/nvidia_ceo_warns_that_chinese_ai_rivals_are_now/?chainedPosts=t3_1i026c7%2Ct3_1l7wbgc

>>507082488
> All kinds of innovative tricks were used to squeeze the last drop of performance out of available hardware

>>507079850 (OP)
Amd and Intel stock gongo down.

>>507082488

>>507084461
>>507084807
>on the shoulders of giants

>>507079850 (OP)
NVIDIA can fuck itself never going back

>>507084807
love this type of stuff. i remember running future crew's second reality as a screensaver 30 years ago

>>507084386
>China might be going through
it might do i don't care where it happens, but finding the best of the best is what human society should be about. in china face culture is even worse than the nepotistic cronyism is in the west though it all stunts the growth of humanity.

>>507086744
I was hoping you'd find it exciting

>>507087204
>I was hoping you'd find it exciting
i do, but i fear the game is still the same as it always was, to keep power in the hands of
>the right kind of people
whether it happens in china, america or europe it's still the same game.

>>507082671
Well fuck me, better buy an Intel to use twice the power at half the performance.

>>507079850 (OP)
Is that because Elon Musk is buying all the GPUs for his robo waifu super computer brain?

>>507079850 (OP)
>What are the political implications? Are you excited for the new CPUs?
Guaranteed to be worse than the competition at first.

>>507089634
Knowing nvidia they'll deliberately hamper their graphics cards to work better with nvidia cpus only.

I hate how embarrassing gamers have become

>>507089853
That won't make their CPUs any better.

>>507090047
It will drive up sales though, goyim. You don't want to miss out on that free 10% performance gain right?

>>507080288
No they haven't. They developed drivers, software and AI to run on devices that were made in Taiwan

>>507091523
Nah, they've had processors for years, but never specifically targeted as a consumer item.
E.g. the latest product in the Drive lineup, Thor, is the first implementation of an ARM Neoverse V3

>>507093708
>Nah, they've had processors for years
They've never made their own processors. Ever.

>>507079850 (OP)
So soon your graphics card will only work if you have a compatible CPU. Hustling and proprietary shit is basically Nvidia's Jewish business model now...

>>507083693
You've just set up a fab in Arizona that's running the highest end processes. Relax.

>>507079850 (OP)
Nah the ride's over. This is nVidia desperately trying to look like they've got a monopoly on "the best designs for all the computers and AI stuff ever!" because the word is out that they really aren't.

Dumb asses.
"The way it's meant to be played" is the most brilliant thing they ever came up with: brainwashing NPCs starting in the early 2000s to think that nvidia was worth the premium.

Short it. Nvidia pride parade faggots suck Xi-mail dick

>>507091523
>>507095122
In your mind they have to design the instruction set from the ground up then make the chips in their own fabs for your random worthless faggot ass on 4chan to accept it. You worthless faggots are cancer