I don't understand why someone wants a biological child. Why does it being from your sperm or your womb matter ? It is the weirdest thing to me, to me experience runs deeper than blood. I honestly don't fully get the point of having kids period but atleast people who adopt a child in need are doing something sweet. I'm truly confused. Please explain

>>507094706 (OP)
>to me experience runs deeper than blood
you will have trouble understanding because you are retarded

My body tells me I should pass my genes.You are a sad homosexual.

>>507094706 (OP)
You are you're genes

>>507094706 (OP)
Breeders are selfish. If you ask them whats the best part about having kids they make it about themselves and not the shit world they forced a child to slave to.

>>507094806
Your body doesn't tell you that, you can wear a condom, there is birth control, pulling out, etc, I'm not homo

>>507094769
Explain it if you think that, in reality it's objectively silly

>>507094822
What is meaningful about your genes ?

>>507094706 (OP)
Reproduction is imperative of all life forms. I never understood why anyone would raise other people’s kids.

>>507095069
They are you

>>507095076
The world has no inherent imperative, what makes something coming from your sperm any more "your kid" ? It's weird to me

>>507095168
So why would you want to condemn them to a life of indentured servitude to Jews? Explain that one, fuckstick

>>507095168
So, your personality is also you, your thoughts are you, your likes and dislikes, your experiences are you also, these things are more relevant

>>507094706 (OP)
>just toss out billions of years of evolution because a kike told you to

hahahahHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHahahha!!!!

>>507095485
I don't understand why that would "toss out evolution", I don't think you know what evolution is

It's just vanity. I love my step-son.
I would never want the guilt of bringing another soul in this world just to suffer, but so long as I am my wife's husband, my son shall grow up proud and strong in order to defend isreal from muslim dogs.

>>507095680
When did this become a race debate ? Lol

>>507094706 (OP)
Raising a kid who doesn’t look like you is humiliating, cuckold

>>507095069
If you feel this way, why bother living? Anyway, if you had a kid you'd understand.

>>507096681
Why does that matter ?

>>507096836
Because you're committing your resources to furthering the genetic lineage of another man. This is basic stuff.

>>507096909
I don't obsessively think about chromosomes all day, seems miserable

You have no emotions or feelings retard.

>>507094706 (OP)
Not our problem if you are lacking the parts to understand life.

>>507094706 (OP)
Universal reason:
Raw dog sex is probably awesome

Depending on region, the other reasons vary:
3rd world/global south adults want TONS of kids so that they can be taken care of in old age. It’s a retirement plan
1st world adults barely have kids these days, like you, but the few who do are doing so because they want to provide and fulfill that instinct.
At least that’s my take

>>507097704
"Lacking the parts to understand life" in this context means nothing

>>507097069
It's not an "obsession," it's a biological imperative, much the same as seeking out food and water. An animal that does not seek to fulfill biological imperatives is said to be maladaptive. This isn't unique to humans, obviously; it is the driving force behind all life, yourself included. To willingly terminate your line is indicative of a deep sickness.

>>507094706 (OP)
Because the whole point of loving your kids is that they are part of you. Humans are programmed to care for kids that look similar to them. Also raising kids not biologically yours makes you a literal cuck.

>>507098612
but this programming is not logical??? i need logic. who created the logic for these humans!!!

>>507094706 (OP)
I think it comes into play, micro-incentives, and people make it about God. It's something like you're depositing wealth in their womb.

>>507098288
Biology and evolution doesn't have a set goal

>>507098612
Seems Narcissistic to "love" someone because they are "part of you"

>>507098288
It's biological insofar as it's advantageous for survival. For instance polygamy is the norm among almost every species of great ape, since a minority of males get the women you can see that a good portion of them end up not reproducing, but still having social sex outlets. There's 0 point to producing more people if they hinder the tribe, I can guarantee you if child labor laws were lifted you'd see a massive spike in population. The only reason people have kids is if it benefits them, it was a sign of wealth not status for almost all of history until bourgeois culture turned the family unit into being little more than sentimental pet ownership.

>>507099160
midwit

Lots of racist people, "kids that look similar to them"

Human instinct. The instinct is strong enough that fathers goes from the safest person a child can be around to someone much more dangerous than the child's mother when you count stepfathers as fathers.

>>507099285
>The only reason people have kids is if it benefits them, it was a sign of wealth not status for almost all of history until bourgeois culture turned the family unit into being little more than sentimental pet ownership.
Bro, what. Look up the etymology of the word proletariat. And you seem to have forgotten that birth control didn't exist throughout the majority of humanity's existence. A lot of kids used to happen because people were compelled to have sex. It was less a conscious choice, and more a product of base instincts.

>>507094706 (OP)
You don't understand because you are retarded & mentally ill. You're questioning the drive behind your entire worthless bloodline.

>>507099564
This doesn't always happen this way, biological parents can and often do abuse or put their child in a dangerous situation

>>507099353
So? What's wrong with that?

>>507095389
>these things are more relevant
Why? Relevant to what?

>>507095264
My kid will be a min maxed Hitler
He will have every tool available to him
Every single moment will be calculated out without all the retarded chink faggotry

>>507095389
It is an expansion of me; it is genetically prone to act like me
It is a form of my continued being more so than someone that is not my child
There is a culture built around loving and missing parents even as an orphan
They will want to meet their real parents
They will never view themselves as part of you

>But can’t you just teach and do that with someone else?
Why wouldn’t I do it with me?
A clone of me?

You ask people to explain your retardation to you but have you thought I don’t want to raise a potential genetic retard like you?
50% of intelligence comes from genetics according to Harvard studies and many other studies that confirm this

I’d rather not risk the dice
I’d rather look at someone that looks like me because I love myself
Since I love myself I’d love my child more than someone else’s child

Do you know what the leading factor of abuse in a house hold is?
Not alcohol, not drugs, not kids acting out.


> Multiple studies have found that children living with a stepparent, especially a stepfather or a mother's boyfriend, are at a much higher risk of maltreatment compared to those living with both biological parents. For example, children in homes with a single parent and a live-in partner are at least eight times more likely to be maltreated and ten times more likely to experience abuse than those living with married biological parents.
The "Cinderella effect," a well-documented phenomenon in evolutionary psychology, describes this elevated risk: stepchildren are significantly more likely to be abused or neglected by stepparents than by biological parents. Some studies have found that the risk of fatal abuse (infanticide) is up to 60 times higher and sexual abuse about eight times higher in stepfamilies compared to biologically intact families.

>>507100003
To care about, think about, determine your actions

>>507094706 (OP)
Kosher fingers typed this

>>507100239
> Empirical data from the U.S., Canada, and Europe confirm that stepchildren face a much greater risk of maltreatment, including physical and sexual abuse, than children in biological two-parent families

>>507100311
midwit bitch

>>507094706 (OP)
>I don’t understand
Not my problem. You’re not entitled to the attention of people smarter than you.

>>507094706 (OP)
I think having children is fundamentally selfish if the only reason you are having them is to continue the bloodline or live that experience because you haven't had them yet

My father never wanted children, but my mother did. So my sister was born, who never liked my father anyway. I was born three years later, but this compounded the first problem because he never wanted children in the first place. The net result is me, someone who has very grim prospects because of disastrous parents

>>507094706 (OP)
You won't understand it until you have your own child with a woman you know and love. Once you understand your breeding partner and they understand you, then it all makes sense when you create offspring, its the celebration of one another, not yourself. Nobody knows you better than you know yourself, and your children are part you, part your "mate" and part of the world. You are in a unique position to try and learn from your own mistakes during life. So that you may pass on the skills to ensure that your children have the chance to become better versions of you and your partner, not just copies or iterations of yourselves to collect for the sake of it. Breeding without purpose is definitely illogical and confusing, you just don't understand that one should act with purpose, not simply move on instinct.

>>507099957
When I say that X is more likely to cause an adverse outcome than Y, it doesn't mean that Y never causes the adverse outcome.
Biological parents are much less likely to do abuse or put their child in a dangerous situation, than non related adoptive parents. Related adoptive parents do better than non related adoptive parents.

>>507099668
Yes you can have sex on impulse, but even apes have sex for purely social reasons. You can take Edo Japan as an example, when they didn't want kids they simply aborted kids and this was extremely frequent the average was like 3 or 4 abortions per woman and they were incredibly overpopulated. The reason for this was because they used excessive prostitution as a stand-in for a welfare state. That's what is happening today, we have an oversaturation of porn culture. The only reason people had kids was to use them as farm labor, the Amish still do this, their kids work in construction the second they can hold a hammer. It's the same in tribal societies, if you can feed excess population the tribe no longer practices fertility rites. Agriculture essentially made food endless if you had enough bodies to work fields, so Christianity allowed for monogamy where everyone could reproduce without consequence. When breeding any animal for quality most of the species doesn't reproduce.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelding#History

>A male horse is often gelded to make him better-behaved and easier to control. Gelding can also remove lower-quality animals from the gene pool.[7] To allow only the finest animals to breed on, while preserving adequate genetic diversity, only a small percentage of all male horses should remain stallions. Mainstream sources place the percentage of stallions that should be kept as breeding stock at about 10%,[8] while an extreme view states that only 0.5% of all males should be bred.[9]

>>507100239
This is so wrong on so many levels

>>507100311
Let us say you are right. Why should anyone prioritize to care about, to think about, and to determine their actions over their genes?

>>507100602
How is that?
I am an orphan that was adopted
Tell me how I’m wrong

People are mongoloid demon chimpanzee hybrids. They only feel obliged to help someone with the same DNA as them. Someone who carries foreign DNA is just a meat shield. Someone to rape and exploit and murder and eat.

>>507094706 (OP)
>genes don't matter because that would make me uncomfortable
Neck yourself retard

That's a lot of words to describe you're a cuck

>>507100980
He’s just trolling and very boringly at that

>>507100834
This isn't true. If I was at risk of becoming homeless, my family (and extended family) wouldn't give a fuck. The tribal instinct in my family is completely absent. In the ancient world, all of us would have died of starvation or been left to fend for ourselves against the wooly animals. The human experience is varied, but the lizard-brain "tribe" instinct (particularly in the West) has largely collapsed

>>507094706 (OP)
I think it is exciting getting in someone's guts and mixing with their DNA with their organs. I don't tell women this because it'd weird them out, but I want to fuck around with their insides and mix with their genes

>>507101116
People taking in a child is much more likely than taking in a grown teen or man

>>507100980
>Having kids for labor is cuckoldry
I absolutely detest people who try to argue from nature when the only thing sustaining monogamy was agriculture. When machines do most of the farming that means more people=more mouths to feed. Most farming was manual until the 20th century and both WW1 and WW2 mostly depopulated farmers. Look at this rationale 'you're a cuck' so it's purely about social identity and not nature now? What's the point of being on a text based website when you can't even fucking read?

>>507100601
That depends on what qualities you want in the animal anon...do you think horses are bread for intelligence or soft nature? Or are they bread to maximize physical strength for example? Humans are not tools that can be looked at in the same way because slavery is no longer wide spread. Unfortunately if humans were to bread for intelligence, it seems you would not be here today.

>>507100575
Such a repulsive reply

>>507100601
>Yes you can have sex on impulse, but even apes have sex for purely social reasons.
The point is that sex produces kids, regardless of whether it was intended to be social. It's not just some random coincidence it's desirous and yields offspring. Just because humans are cognizant of the possible outcome and sometimes act against it does not change this reality, which is what the retard who created this thread was challenging.

>>507101308
*bred

>>507094706 (OP)
A biological urge to pass on your genes. It's the main basic impulse of every animal. Funnily enough, either humanity will go extinct or we'll survive long enough for vast genetic modification becomes so commonplace the idea of you having any genetic impact on future generations past a certain point becomes null and void.

>>507094706 (OP)
I don't want a bio kid because my genes suck.
if a marry, my wife will use someone else's genes.

>>507101325
In what way? The truth is ugly to you?

>>507097967
On the contrary, you literally do not understand the self-replicating process known as "life".

I do not want a pet that only lives a few years much less a child with a horrible cunt that will live an entire human lifespan

>>507101611
It was a very self centered, Narcissistic reply, spoke about another human being as an extension of himself and only wrote about his personal perceived reward with no concern for the child's individual well being

>>507101308
They did this to breed warhoses. Also oxen and work horses are substantially stronger than their wild counterparts even if they majority don't breed. Human eugenicists also hold the opinion that there needs to be more selection not less.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shockley#Racist_and_eugenicist_views

>Shockley was one of the race theorists who received money from the Pioneer Fund, and at least one donation to him came from its founder, the eugenicist Wickliffe Draper.[52][53] Shockley proposed that individuals with IQs below 100 should be paid to undergo voluntary sterilization, $1,000 for each of their IQ points under 100.[4] This proposal led to the University of Leeds to withdraw its offer of an honorary degree to him.[4]

Shockley also wanted to remove niggers from the genepool, fought for segregation, and was demonized in the civil rights movement because socialist idiots wanted more cheap labor even if they were brown and retarded. There's 0 point to being sentimental about breeding when it's a biological imperative.

>>507101340
Chimps have over 30% infant mortality. Sex drive exists regardless if it's advantageous. Incidentally bonobo have far lower infant mortality rates because they live in areas where food is more abundant. There's no point to reproduction if you can't feed offspring, even if sex drive still exists that's the entire point of selection and why things like eugenics exist because at some point you plateau on production and need to start picking quality over quantity.

>>507101592
Are you saying you want your wife to be pregnant ? If so, that is illogical, what is this hyper fixation on genes ?

I'm 100% sure OP is a woman

>>507102602
I'm a male, what makes you say that?

>stop existing goyim !!!!!

The synagogue of Satan, everyone.

>>507094706 (OP)
cuck

>>507094706 (OP)
Because I love my gf and I want my kids to look like her.
Also, good luck finding a guy with that mystery meat goblin screaming around, whore