>Act arrogantly in front of Hitler
>Lost against Greece
>Lost against spear chuckers
>Shit tanks
>Surrender immediately
>Every SS Memoir in the Eastern Front consistently portrayed Italians as lazy shit soldiers who couldn't hold a fucking village from Russians with broken shovels despite having guns
>Shit tanks
>Literally Japan performed better

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ITALIANS? HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY THIS SHITTY?

If Hitler declared War against these incompetent race in Mediterranean maybe the Axis Front wouldn't be such a shitshow.

Imagine LARPing as "Muh Roman Empire" when you're a fucking Lombard.

Imagine LARPing with "fasces" (Italians are fucking disgrace fuckos for descerating this symbol with their own weakness and degeneracy) when 5ft Asians in Far East Asia wielding shitty guns with shitty tanks performed better than you. And it's against the fucking Americans too.

So I ask again, what the fuck is wrong with Italians? Did Italian mothers failed to teach their Italian sons on what's left and what's right? What the fuck are they doing in the military training? Beating fucking pastas day in and day out? Fuck's wrong with this country? Fuck's wrong with their race? Fuck's wrong with their consciousness? Fuck's wrong with their entire being?

>>507106549 (OP)
neanderthal genes were supposed to stay in the stone age

In their defense they were OK in WWI

Italians are lovers, not fighters, and that was Mussolini's greatest failing.

>>507106549 (OP)
Biggest problem was their most prominent general, Marshall of Italy Badoglio was an OSS asset who deliberately botched the invasion of Greece
That, and Mussolini himself being a jewish puppet and MI5 agent

>>507106549 (OP)
do something like the gothic war

Work means suffering in most European languages, Germans only got brainwashed recently with slave protestant morality of work.

>>507106549 (OP)
They didn't want to fight.
>>507108109
It does, but Germans didn't get brainwashed, they were selectively bred as a race of slaves until they started to enjoy work.

>>507108818
I respect Greece because despite being raped to Kingdom come by Turkroach, they were still willing to fight and never lost that will. They even kicked Mussolini's ass

>But Italians don't want to fight
What the fuck? The fuck's this excuse? When the nation is in war, you fight OR YOU FUCKING FIGHT.

The Italians are just fucking cowards holy shit.

Why does Italy attract angry memeflags like a stinky cheese attracts rats?

>>507106549 (OP)
These Italians make several good points.

>>507108818
You are retarded.

>>507106549 (OP)
Italians weren't ready for the Greek resistance. Many Greeks had experience from Balkan Wars which was a brutal, often hand-to-hand combat experience in the dense hot woods of Northern Greece. BGC completely tore up Italian assholes in those battles.

>>507109808
Damm Brad Pitt is in like every movie ever

>>507106549 (OP)
They weren't ready for the war and frankly didn't have much desire to fight it at all.

>>507106549 (OP)
>Nooo you need to expand and have colonies!
>Nooo you have to work harder than you need to because reasons!
Italians sound based. Maybe Germans wouldn't have had millions of their women raped by Russians and lose their peripheral territories if they just deposed Hitler and surrendered unconditionally like Italy did.

>>507106549 (OP)
would it have been better to swap italians for mexicans?

>>507106549 (OP)
>Act arrogantly in front of Hitler
Wrong
>Shit tanks
They were late comers into tankery. Their late-war tanks were alright, on par with Shermans
>surrender immediately
Simply wrong
>Every SS Memoir
I call bullshit on that

>>507106549 (OP)
When I was a teenager I had the opportunity to talk with a man who joined the black shirts at their beginning and even talked with Mussolini. We talked about a lot of thing but the one thing I remember well was when I asked how did he felt when the Germans took over Italy at the end of the war.
"Ho! that was wonderfull! Everything was well organised and worked perfectly, they were also much nicer too me than my fellow italians. Probably the best part of the war."

>>507106549 (OP)
The Italians fucked up centuries ago.
And it hurts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_G7-opxBLQ&ab_channel=Scenecier

>>507106549 (OP)
Absolutely abhorrent post
Italy was the best of the axis powers
We didn't get ripped apart, lost 30% of our territory like the Krauts
We didn't get nuked like the Japs
We didn't start the war, we were enormously dumb to join it, but we somehow managed it and avoided the colossal humiliation that Germany and Japan suffered afterwards
By the way, everyone lost their colonial empire, so even that point is moot
For the life of me I will never understand how ending up like Germany or Japan means they performed better in the war

Sounds based. Who wants to die or work themselves to the bone over the ambitions of some leader/boss who's only in it for himself.

>>507106873
>OK
Define ok cu sending banzai charge after banzai charge and hoping the Austrians will run out of ammo isn't ok

>>507106549 (OP)
I once went to Europe. Spent a lot of time in Switzerland. It was beautiful... no one littered, every road immaculately maintained, every person looking respectable, I was very impressed. At one point we drove through high Alps roads cross the border into Italy, heading to Domodossola. The difference was immediate when we crossed that border, immediately, it was like going from Skyrim to Fallout. Garbage everywhere. Everything falling apart. Dazed-looking loiterers.

>>507111874
>every person looking respectable
We clearly didn't met

>>507108109
>>507109749
>>507110316
>>507111475
This is literally the next section of the memoir. Maybe if the Italian fucks stayed awake and actually did their duty with discipline this wouldn't happen LMAO.

Pathetic fuckers. Good enemies, useless allies.

>>507112320
Where are you from ?

>>507112152
I spent most of my time in French Switzerland, especially Valais. But if you were out on a Halloween night in Neuchatel, out with the drunk Brits from the uni town, and you saw a thoroughly wasted Canadian dressed as the Big Lebowski (not even shitting you that was my costume its so weird you posted that image) trying to speak broken French to a girl who turned out to be Australia... then you saw me. Genuinely the nicest place I ever visited.

>>507106549 (OP)
>>507112320
Now imagine how soneone born autistic, logic driven and introvert, like myself, feels living among the people you described. And luckily I’m from the North where they are a little more introverts.

>>507112320
The Wops under Mussolini were the wrong hand leading the right beast. The war in itself taught remnant Italians some of the tricks necessary to overcome almost anything, but their fight isn't in it if their heart isn't in it. Threaten his land? There's more land. Threaten his sun? Too big and too far away to matter. Threaten his love? Now you've awoken legion, and God have mercy on your soul. An Italian would rip off his own limbs just to save his darling wife, swim through hot coals to save his children no matter how many of their usually collosal fucking families. Mussolini as far as Wops go was a rarity. Too self absorbed to care, even about his own woman. The King will always be hated for it, but here's the thing. The King survived.
https://youtu.be/5mJj16dE07s

>>507113550
The Italians are just fucking pathetic holy shit. The Germans fought to the last man, to the last Blood, to the last soldier even as the Reichstag burned. There's also the Volksstrum who, despite never fighting and probably never loved Hitler and hated him tok secretly, still fought from houses to houses, neighborhood to neighborhood against the coming Russian tanks.

The Italians have no excuse for their horrendous performance. You may say that the Italians were Lions led by a sheep, but the Germans have many blundering retarded higher ups too with retarded generals yet they still fought the good battle with good discipline.

>>507112320
Shouldn't have joined the war to begin with, Italy had little to gain and Hitler offered them even less. Should have just stayed neutral like Spain

>>507113969
Bitch Italy fucked up in North Africa and fucked up again with Spear chuckers. Fuck these guys.

>>507113965
>The Italians are so pathetic. They should have died for nothing when the war was already basically over, like the Germans did.
Italy needs to take better care of its streets but they don't need to be autistic Germans.

>>507113965
And what did those Germans lose? The most valuable thing in the world. To an Italian. They were willing to sacrifice their families for pride. Italians sacrificed their pride for their families. Fundamentally misunderstanding a people and their reason for fighting, is as dangerous as going into a war without knowing what ro expect in the first place.
https://youtu.be/JIHiaxj_Wxc

>>507113216
No I'm from Vaud originally. Grew up in the countryside and spent 17 years in Lausanne then moved 4 years ago in the Canton of Fribourg in the middle of nowhere. I've only met Quebec canadians so far and I tend avoid them kek I really can't with their accent and the worst part is when you met a hot girl and she start to speak like a medieval peasant.

>>507106873
>Avanti savoya! -ACK

>>507114410
>Fribourg
I saw a hockey game there. I love what you do with the drums at your hockey games
>only met Quebec canadians so far and I tend avoid them
wise man

>>507114410
I read a 1,000 page PhD dissertation on Albert Kesselring by an ameeixan doctorate of history. the Führers lion (i think was one of his many names like Smiley Albert) turns out he wasn't a genius leader, some magical julius or anything. he was extremely competent managing what little he had in Italy. constantly undersupplied and under preasure

the problem was the allies were so fucjing incompetent that it was like watching a cat try to bury a shit on a kitchen floor. they rotated command between nations (amis, nz, canuck, so on) who would change the whole mission and also stop everything change the entire overarching mission

put that against operation avalanche and husky where the Reich always had the high ground (as that's the geography of italia, going north). Churchill was a fucking idiot. the "soft underbelly of Europe" operation was meant to appease him too

they bombed the shit out of Monte Cassino to the point allies couldnt use their tanks, ans the fallschrimjäger were gurilla fighting through rubble and scoring mass ally kills everywhere trying to dislodge them

if you read this as a burger you genuinely start to hate and think what the fuck is wrong with you to our leaders

>>507106549 (OP)
Some people work for results (cause and effect) and some work because they have nothing to do with themselves. That "take a walk" and "touch grass" shit only goes so far so they stay working. Personally I don't see how people achieve anything without some level of work so the "work is bad" mindset is fucked to me.

Lol, we had no reason to fight in ww2, nothing to really gain, no morale, no drive.
Mussolini was not a iron hand dictator like hitler, he was just a populist chained by his nepo cabinet and industrial elite (see all the bullcrap armor and equipment made by corruption).
Dumbass just wanted to snag some easy territory after germany in a fast war, then got bogged down.

Was a complete shitfest, we literally just did the bare minimun to not make germans turn on us.
So yeah, we did not really try.

>>507115420
one of the other things too was the Italians kept surrendering, or just refusing to fight

they would turncoat on the Germans also frequently. my German professor back in the early 2010s was a trümmerfrau, she was like 80 something back then. in Germany when Hitler was alive. any time the topic of the Italians came up she would go on this 20 minute rant about those daygos

kek she really hated them, not just because off that. i heard a number of things

>>507112320
Yes, we know, Italians like to drink and fuck and eat and shoot the shit. Everybody knows this about them. The weird thing here isn't Italians being Italians, it's Germans forming a critical military alliance with them and then discovering this well known trait only after the fact that is weird. All the same, I'd rather hang out and eat lasagna than die in a foxhole, but that's just me.

>>507109792
Maybe Germans really were possessed by the spirit of Wotan, kinda based though

>>507115420
this (one book of a ww2 triology) has to be one of the best i have read in my life. i cannot recommend it more than humanly possibly

it puts a human face on the entire world conflict, also including aux forces youve never even heard of and their roles in the fight

the German soldiers yelling "roosevelt is a jew" over the battle lines at night first made me laugh, then you understand the implications of a lot of this

total shitalian death

>>507117789
EYYYYYYY PASTA NIGGONI

MAMA MIA

Some German general said of them, "They should stick to cooking and making violins."

I don't know what's wrong with them. Maybe it's that they grow up surrounded by the ruined remains of what was once a magnificent empire. They can never equal the world-conquering achievements of their ancestors. So why bother trying, why not just enjoy life? And that is what they do.

I have a friend who won a Pulitzer Prize, and none of his sons have the slightest interest in the written word. I have another friend who is a highly regarded professional cellist, and none of his kids are interested in music. Why should modern-day Italians be interested in fighting and dying for Italy?

>>507112320
>text
Wow, northerners truly are savages, and ivans most of all. Just a seething hatred at the ability of people to enjoy life.