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The Air India 787 more than likely crashed due to a performance calculation failure. The aircraft can be seen configured with about 5 degrees of flaps on takeoff which is why you can barely see them and also explains why there was no takeoff config warning horn. The runway they departed from has only 6,000 feet usable for takeoff. So they performed what is called an "intersection departure". For reference, 6,000 feet is about how much runway Chicago Midway airport has. The likely reason the performance calculation was done incorrectly is because half the runway is inaccessible for takeoff and unless you account for this then the calculator will assume you have the full length. There was no mechanical failure. This is the result of incompetence. Pic rel is the distance they had available (1.15mi is 6,000 feet)

>>507138719 (OP)
isnt there software in the plane that is doing these calculations when you program the waypoints?
how could jeets fuck this up?

>>507138921
There is a performance calculator on board but you have to enter the runway information and select the runway intersection if it's an intersection departure. If you don't do this it calculates based on the full length.

>>507138719 (OP)
I thought it was confirmed they actually used the full runway, based on the public xpdr GPS data showing they taxiied down to the end.

>>507138921
streetshitters wrote the boing-boing software too

>>507138719 (OP)
so jeets single handily disgraced both Dessault and Boeing in a month?

>>507138719 (OP)
It was dual engine failure, clearly loss of both engines so no thrust.

This post by a former crew is also pointing to piss poor maintenance of the plane.

shitskin streetshitters

>flown by pajeets
>coded by pajeets

it was destined to fail

>>507139388
They data I saw showed it was an intersection departure

>>507138719 (OP)
If they were familiar with that airport wouldn't they have known 5 degrees of flap was wrong ?

>>507138719 (OP)
>the aircraft can be seen configured with about 5 degrees of flaps
It should be automated like in fighter jets.

>>507139673
What the fuck. Can we hold these pieces of shit accountable? How can multiple sets of crew and engineers know about this and do nothing

>>507139673
I just don't believe that both engines failed at the same time, directly after takeoff.

>>507138921
>how could jeets fuck this up?
you are actually asking this?

>>507139673
Would.

>>507138719 (OP)
the rat deployed, there was engine failure

>isnt there software in the plane that is doing these calculations when you program the waypoints?
>how could jeets fuck this up?

>>507139829
The flightradar track on the public map is inaccurate. Read the press release section on flightradar24.com/blog and they confirm “the full length of rwy 23 was used”.

>>507139173
>>507139520
>>507140066
the pilot had like 8000+ flight hours, seems too unlikely of a mistake to make for something so simple, he probably flew hundreds of times from this airport.
so how tf did he fuck it up?

>>507140015
TATA group (owners of Air India) has too much power in India for the government to do shit to them. I doubt they even get fined in any way.

If justice has to come its going to have to come from UK.

>>507140509
the "pilot" had like an IQ of 65

>>507139829
>Pic rel is the distance they had available (1.15mi is 6,000 feet)
Great pic. I can even see the line start

>>507140509
Do we know for sure if the captain was flying? If the (inexperienced) 1st officer was flying, he had only 1100 hrs TT. Most of those 1100 would not be on the 787 either. He was green. He wouldn’t even qualify him to sit in the right seat of a regional jet here in the US. (1500 TT ATP minimum)

>>507140020
Why not? Take off is the most stressful part of a flight for the engines. If a badly maintained set of engines were to fail simultaneously, it would be during takeoff.

>>507139829
>>507140404
>>507140810
>flightradar24.com/blog/live/air-india-boeing-787-8-crashes-on-takeoff-in-ahmedabad/
Source for claim whole runway length was used.

>>507141039
I understand that website is saying this but the aircraft very clearly rotated way too late for this to have been a full length departure.

>>507138719 (OP)
>half the runway is inaccessible for takeoff
Why? So is it 6000 or 3000 feet?

>>507140773
if he was truly retarded he would have never made it to 8000 flight hours to begin with.
>>507140812
no but I think its unlikely the captain would let the retard do the calculations, especially in india.

>>507138719 (OP)
One thing that bugs me is why are its wings extended upward right before it crashes? It's like the engines are off and it's on freefall

Pilot seems like a good area for AI to take over, or at least do the heavy lifting.

>>507138719 (OP)
Leaaving the landing gear extended din't help their airspeed or climb performance

>>507141287
One source is claiming there was a suspected single engine failure after V1. Continuing the takeoff on 1 engine, they may have stayed on the runway longer to build as much speed as possible before rotating. Then, I wouldn’t be surprised if they ran their engine out checklist and mistakenly shutdown the functioning engine, turning them into a glider. This exact mistake has caused crashes before. Just my theory though based on limited info.

>>507138719 (OP)
>>507140810
I think I've copied OP's placement pretty well.
If anyone wants to see for themselves, it's Sardar [lol] Vallabhbhai Patel [double lol] International Airport, Ahmedabad, Gujarat. Turn right at the public shitting street, you can't miss it.
That being said, if the reports >>507141039 are correct that the plane did taxi to the back of the runway before takeoff, this measurement is irrelevant.

>>507140015
What can they do when they have no say and can be fired if they try to go public?
You would need to have courage, integrity, honor and unity so every one stands up for the other.
This is why UNIONS were formed, but the concept of unions is alien outside the European realm! Sadly it has been under constant attack even in the west, no dought paid for by big pocket corporation

>The crew of Air India flight AI171 gave a MAYDAY call to the Air Traffic Control (ATC) immediately after take-off, but gave no response after that to calls made by the ATC to the aircraft, according to a statement from the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA).

Holy fuck. But it was probably still too late.

>>507138719 (OP)
>Mutts trying to save boeing.

It's known that Boeing aircraft are designed and made by poos.
Next time you book a flight make sure it's an Airbus plane.

>>507142106
>>507140015
Idk India but I was a mechanic and shoved it up arse when I did not want to sign shit off. Nobody’s making me not do my job by trying to make me do my job. That’s about the only cool thing about being a mechanic/inspector is you can say no.

>>507139673
Saar it the plane fault sar, not our fault sar.

>>507141325
how do you think the world is running

>>507140972
I can imagine one failing after the other, but both at precisely the same time is a real statistical anomaly. I would suspect sabotage if that was the case, which I sincerely don't

>>507143746
See >>507141776
Several plane crashes have been caused by pilots having a single engine failure and accidentally shutting down the good engine instead of the malfunctioning one. If this Air India plane did indeed lose all thrust, it’s probably do to them making that mistake. Like you said, the probability of both engines simultaneously and independently suffering mechanical faults is so low it’s basically zero. Has literally never happened even once to a modern jet, that I’m aware of. Competent airlines (so maybe not Air India) stagger the engine maintenance so the engines are never both worked on by the same people at the same location at the same time. That way if there’s a maintenance screwup the failure is contained to a single engine. From what the employees are saying it sounds like Air India’s maintenance program was shittier than the average Indian street, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this is why their plane did the needful and redeemed.