Thread 507180883

keep dreaming, rentoid

>>507180883 (OP)
RV living sucks. Huge pain in the ass.

>>507180883 (OP)
>long airstream
bro that's like 100k

>>507180945
If you were to rent an average apartment in america for $1600

Just in rent that's $20,000 a year going to a black hole void.

$20,000 A YEAR!

You can spend $50,000 and get a used big RV with shower thats insulated and already has a hookup to a 120V electric system, 40 acres of land, a trailer, 5KW solar system, water totes and it will be payed off in 2.5 years

>>507180987
Rent is awesome I can't wait every month to pay for my overpriced room under a washing machine and above loud masturbator anon

>>507181000
I bought my RV for $3000 and renovated it for another $1000, put new floors in it with thick 2 inch plywood. It has a full shower.

Nobody said you had to buy an overpriced RV. I pay $0 in rent a month, and 0$ in electricity.

>>507181000
Oh and even if it was 70K for a used airstream, 10-20 acres of land, you would make the money back on rent in 2-3 years because apartments in the US are so fucking expensive

Apartments in america cost 20-30k a year and you dont get anything back for it.

>>507180987
Its easy to live offgrid. It only costs $30-40K in america and you can be completely free from utility companies.

An average house in america costs $200k on average and you have to live in a goycity with a boomer city council raising your property tax and rent.

you can do this at starbucks

>>507180883 (OP)
Where do you get water and food ?

>>507181853
Grocery store duh. Not too far only 15 miles and you go maybe once per couple days, at the maximum length once per week.

As for water if you're offgrid you'll need a truck and trailer to haul it once every 3-4 months, or you'll need to build a water catching system and buy a 1500 gallon water tank. I use around 3-4 gallons a day with my A/C and my shower.

>>507180945
It do be like that
I sold my very mediocre house in the suburbs outside a city for major bucks a few years ago and put three hundred thousand in my pocket, I then bought a big ol chunk of property in the sticks with a trailer in it and spent about 10k fixing it up, doing the work myself, it's now comfy, a tornader may come and fuck it up but hey, that's life, I'll get another trailer or build a proper home if it's not jewtardedly expensive

quality of life is in the shitter. pay didnt keep pace with cost of living. tons of people age 18-40 have to totally "wing it" in everyday life. lots of people having adult roomates into their 50s, living in cars, living with parents. and the system tries to counter the growing rage with stuff like mike rowe

>>507182479
If you live offgrid in the midwest anon I would see about contracting a tornado shelter for 5-6k

>>507182393
Why you need 1500 liters of water if you use 3 to 4 a day?

Wouldn't 200 gallons fit on the rv and be more manageable?

Well being out of water do suck

>>507181708
>An average house in america costs $200k on average
Bro, what decade are you living in? You need to double that

Q: for how long tho?

A: not long at all

>>507182587
I'm in the south, tornadoes aren't very prevalent but still happen in spring and fall, I actually had a little one hit my property last spring a year ago and snapped a few of my trees. I want a shelter though, tornadoes scare the piss out of me and I grew up in south Florida where hurricanes are notmal, I've gotten into my truck a couple times because I figure it can handle getting wrecked better than my trailer home can. I have a decent hill on my property that's pretty close to the home, I want to dig into that and make a little shelter.

>>507181172
>If you were to rent an average apartment in america for $1600
No ones rent is 1600 though. Unless maybe a penthouse in New York City. Regular people do not pay more than maybe 600 a month.

>>507180883 (OP)
I bought a...uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh..... a cup of coffee today.

are there ANY good reliable RV's or trailers? something equivalent to a honda civic? I keep reading they're all shit quality (so you can't escape the rent jew)

>>507183586
I need one now

Keep the board alive this may as well be the end of the world

>>507183512
I live in the middle of Bum Fuck Nowhere Indiana, and my rent is $1450. Apartments in NYC are upwards of $3-4k. Literally the only people paying $600 a month are on welfare and getting breaks on their rent already. Where the fuck did you get your info? It's not correct anywhere in the US. $1600 is a normal amount to pay for rent.

>>507183512
Dumbass eurotrash
Rent is easily $1800/mo or more for even a dogshit 1 bedroom apartment...
Forget about renting a house, it's closer to 2 or 3k/mo depending on the home
I hope some paki rapes you and cuts your fucking head off you dumb, out of touch Swedish piece of shit
Don't even pretend like you really know what it's like to live in this kike hellhole

>>507183778
4 bedrooms or what?

>>507183868
This I was paying rent in a trailer for $1500 a month before I bought my house shit sucked ass

>>507183916
I live in a 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom in an apartment complex.

>>507183721
Honestly it's not that hard to DIY build one if you really care that much about build quality. Only an absolute chudificated retard couldn't do it.
>>507183868
You still have to pay rent in a trailer tho, unless you can afford to buy land to park it.

>>507183512
lol swede has no idea how bad it is. a 1bed on average is like 1600. in socal its more like 1800

naw everythings fucked here. people be spending 50% of their net on rent.

>>507181708
How do you do it without being harassed by municipalities

>>507180883 (OP)
I live at home for free while I rake in 90k a year, keep making those trailer payments though.

>>507181188
>Rent is awesome I can't wait every month to pay for my overpriced room under a washing machine and above loud masturbator anon
What I look forward to is giving a tip to my landlord on top of my rent payment. It shows that I'm a good tenant and productive member of soഴciety.

>>507184112
>How do you do it without being harassed by municipalities
This, some of these are even worse than HOAs.
They can mandate grid hookups and septic systems even on the county level.
Most of the time it's people living in the desert in an unincorporated area so they can escape from everything and everyone else.
You will be lucky if your neighbor isn't a fucking amateur meth cook.

>>507184147
Based. I live on the road for my work but I stay at my parents house on my off days about a dozen times a year.

>>507181708
>$200k
What flyover shithole are you people living in. Even in the middle of fucking nowhere iin the south t costs $400k for a shitty house nowadays the market is so inflated

>>507184354
What about shared payment for "closed community privilegues" everyone love those

>>507184354
>that pic
He deserves to stay poor and retarded from all the trash that mobile home is made of. There's a reason there's an over-under whether or not the building will be rendered uninhabitable either by dry rot or by a tornado passing by.

>>507184147
yea thats nice you had decent parents who didnt divorce each other and didnt kick you out immediately at 18.
i know a guy in tech thats making high 100s . fucker just turned 30. all he has to do his pay his moms tax on her home. guy will be able to retire in 10 years.

>>507184107
>people be spending 50% of their net on rent.
Says on average Americans pay 31,7% on rent. In Sweden it's 23%. I pay 14%.

>>507182393
What do you use as WC and for bathing and doing the laundry?
Are the bathroom and laundry room inside your house or outside?
Where do you get the water from?
How do you take all that stuff with you if you decide to move to another place?
How do you endure hot summers?
I like the idea of living in a trailer or van, but I've always considered these the biggest issues.

>>507180883 (OP)
>renting or living in an RV instead of buying a house
why?

>>507184112
>How do you do it without being harassed by municipalities
You buy land in an unincorporated township that is so small that they don't have a town council or building inspector. Such townships are common in the Midwest.

A guy I know recently moved from a unincorporated township to an incorporated one with a local building inspector and he hates that he now has to have everything that he builds inspected all of a sudden. But his wife wanted to be closer to town so thats the way she goes Ricky.

>>507183512
Are you fucking high? Anywhere that isn’t the literal middle of nowhere averages $1700 rent. LA, NYC, DC are easily double that, and everywhere around it for at least 1 hour commute distance.

By the way I’m not exaggerating when I say the middle of nowhere. That’s not hyperbole. In order to get $600/month rent you gotta live like in the middle of Kansas in a dying town that has a population of 300 and is at least 200 miles from the nearest city.

>>507184694
no laundry, you have to do it by hand like your abuela did
you need water hookup or fill tanks with water
you use A/C system

>>507184604
The trick is that your parents married for love and not to marry a white person

>>507184506
naw as long as your not in the metro areas like dallas fortworht, phoenix. places like albeine,tx and las cruces texas are in the 100-200s.

granted theres not as much there (especially albeline)

>>507181000
Probably more. I don't spot that particular model, but Airstream has been expensive for a while.
https://www.airstream.com/travel-trailers/

>>507184538
>He deserves to stay poor and retarded from all the trash that mobile home is made of.
Anon, I think that trailer is abandoned and some rich guy is just doing a little trolling as he passes through.

>>507184798
ironically he is asian so this is true

>>507184604
same, my parents are divorced, my mother retired and bought another house. I fix shit around the house and drop 600 for groceries and utilities every month. Both parents are leaving everything to me in the will.

>>507184786
They make counter top washing machines now. I have one in my rig.

>>507182582
Maybe quit trying to force gay lgbt culture on straight guys you stupid creepy morons

>>507180883 (OP)
Enter

>>507183512
lmao what? Dude, you live in Sweden, why are you acting like you know American living?
NYC/CA and you're looking at $2k MINIMUM for like 1 bedroom. 2 bedrooms or more and you're looking at $3k+.

>>507184802
>if you live in an absolute shithole in the middle of nowhere it's cheap
yeah but nobody wants to live there

>>507184802
I'd rather live in a bunker than live in a house in Abilene. Too many tornadoes and hail storms that will fuck your ahit up. Land is also very cheap out there.

>>507184786
>no laundry, you have to do it by hand like your abuela did
Where do you wash and hang your laundry? Also how's the shower system in your RV?
>you use A/C system
Are solar panels enough to keep the AC running without running out of energy for other things?

>>507184747
Forgot you retards makes so much fucking money in the US.
>The median household income in the US after taxes is about $68,354 annually, according to Yahoo Finance. This translates to approximately $5,700 per month.
Not even the king makes that amount of money

>>507180883 (OP)
>live in the desert like a nigger
White people are supposed to live near the woods. You need at least 1 tree to sit in its shadow.

>>507183512
I live by central park, I pay 150 a month for 2000 sqm

>>507181188
>loud masturbator anon
hey no need to get personal man.

>>507185210
eh, I make close to 100k working 2 jobs. My rent is $2k for a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom in Vegas. I still feel broke.

trailers are expensive as shit nowadays
you're getting kiked no matter what

>>507185210
>>507185346
I should mention I have a wife and kid.

>>507185101
Drove by one of these in Arkansas. Felt the truck getting pulled off the highway.

>>507181533
swamp coolers only work in dry areas. but i did like them when i was in san bernadino.

>>507185210
I make $180k/annum right now and it’s comfortable, but not king-like if you could believe it. I legit don’t know how the bottom 50% of this country are even surviving at this point.

>>507185346
You probably lease your car or some retarded shit like that. Living in America and actually knowing how to save your money must be like living in heaven in earth.

I'd be king in the US.

>>507184853
you know why airstream has been expensive for a while? faggots on the internet like OP.

>>507185564
kek I only ever used one when I lived in Highland. I have central ac now. Fuck having to have your door and windows open for ventilation.

>>507184694
>What do you use as WC and for bathing and doing the laundry?
don't know what that means but I have a 1500 gallon tank, so around 5600 liters of water that gets filled with rain water.
>Are the bathroom and laundry room inside your house or outside?
Its a plastic tote with water and detergent powder and then a clothesline outside to dry in the wind once wringed. I have storage for clothes in my RV though.
>Where do you get the water from?
Rain water, it rains around 11 inches a year so I have a rain catching system that supplies me with adequate rain water. I'm one guy though.
>How do you take all that stuff with you if you decide to move to another place?
You just do it efficiently and with money. Biggest challenge was setting up a solar system and paying someone to transport the RV. The cost around 45K USD for 40 acres, RV, 6KW solar system, used truck, trailer.
>How do you endure hot summers?
Just use a swamp cooler. Around 400W a day and uses 2-3 gallons on auto. Gives you 65 degree cold air into my living space, I leave the windows open.

>I like the idea of living in a trailer or van, but I've always considered these the biggest issues.

Without solar or A/C like an evap cooler you're right, It would be pretty much unlivable.

>>507185697
>he doesn't know

>>507185210
that figure is skewed wages haven't moved much for middle and lower class for decades. the median price for a home is 400k and the average buyer is 56 years old. the average fucking car purchase price is also 40k now and you need a fucking car, plus oil is about to spike now.

>>507185564
Thats why utah and arizona chads are comfy. Especially us where its cold and dry in the northern parts. It's 15% humidity right now during the day around 10%.

>>507185697
well everything has an expense. theres no getting around for it. nothing free here. mecicine. you have to pay. visit doctor have to pay. internet pay. electricity (dont get me started my bill was stupid expensive last year in the summer as its a monopoly in california). you have to pay taxs on buying things. taxes on visiting the state. when you travel theres even special zones like vegas that charge you a resort fee. its just jewd fees all the way down here.
there was a old ww2 cartoon propaganda soldier complaining about how little he got as a soldier but then he left and every building he entered as a private citizen shrank his money till it was 0. literally what living in america is.

sure some people can pull off not getting hit with that but its not an easy task. especially if you have to take care of others

>>507180883 (OP)
Where do you shit. Where do you shower.

>>507185972
My expenses are as follows for living offgrid

$120 starlink
$200 food a month( I went and spent $65 today but I got 2 platter family size frozen enchilada trays and 2 chicken pot pie family size trays at the store with a 12 pack of offbrand dr pepper)
$25-40 a month in gas
$15 a month for my phone bill


That's about it.

>>507186062
Outhouse to shit
Shower inside

>>507185378
Nah you can reasonably setup a 15-20 acre offgrid property with a trailer, water tank, shower, outhouse, full size fridge freezer, used truck for $50k or less.

50k would only be 2 years of rent in any normal american city and it goes into the void of nothing.

My fridge isn't big, but it gets the job done.
I can store around 2 weeks of food in the freezer.

>>507180883 (OP)
I just live in my mum's basement. She gets extra money to cover the mortgage, I get nice meals
I haven't had any interest in getting a girlfriend in over a decade so I may as well capitalize on it

>>507180883 (OP)
She's sitting in the Sun...

>>507181188
i have a house on 5 acres of woodlands only me and a few neighbors use, yes it is very worth it to rent sometimes

>>507186167
Also to note I can cut these expenses down to maybe $100-150 a month.


But it wouldnt be luxury. I can get $30 5mb/s mobile internet hotspot thats unlimited but it wouldnt be near starlinks speed of 30mb/s.

I could spend less on gas but I would go into town less to do things.

I could spend less on food but then I wouldn't get to eat out every once in a while.

>>507183778

No way Indiana rent is 1450 a month. You can still get apartments in that state under a grand.

>>507183778

Lafayette, Crawfordsville, Evansville still cheap.

>>507183778

Illinois is even cheaper to live in.

I'm thinking of buying one of these chinese washers. Thank you based XI. Destroying usury and overpriced services one machine at a time.

https://youtu.be/vVvLhUySERY

>>507188315
>chinese washers
There's no better machines on the planet. Miracle workers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X27dvuBSyXE

>>507183512
This was true in the year 2000. Not today

>>507188976
I paid almost 900 dollars in rent in 2001.

>>507180883 (OP)
An Airstream in the desert sounds awful.

>>507180883 (OP)
>$180k trailer
>$80k truck to tow it
>Depreciating assets
>This is somehow better than owning a home

>>507183512
There are $600 apartments available in the US you are correct. Even in white states and areas that are low crime like in the midwest there are apartments for as low as $600-800 in small towns. lowest I've payed is $550 when I lived in the midwest Though you have to live in the midwest with all the sub zero temps.

Small midwest towns are notorious for jacking up the price of everything else since its all boomers on social security who don't actually have to go work for their food so they don't mind if bread is $4 a loaf and milk is $4.50 a gallon because they get $1200 a month and their house is payed off.

To me though I went offgrid and I'll explain my reasoning why. Any rent is stealing. In my political view I don't want to pay a single cent towards rent because its going to someone else who is profiting off the labor of workers. I just dont agree with people's money going to an imaginary void. A service sure, but an overpriced one.

That said renting will always be worse than being a NEET or buying your own property. Even if you spend $80k on an offgrid property with a huge 15KW solar system, a tiny house thats maybe 500sqft. It would still pay itself off in 5 years because renting is that expensive.

>>507189365
You can find an RV for less than 10K USD.
Also its only $1500-$2000 to pay someone to tow it across the country.

Airstreams are expensive but the fact of the matter is.

Renting is a scam that literally steals massive amounts of your money and labor from you.
Houses are way overpriced and in a bubble.

The only good option is RV living offgrid on your own property. Or if you are so inclined, build your own house.

>>507189556
and paying a mechanic thousands to fix your shitbox is somehow based?
>uh uh I'll just fix it myself
Then you don't value your time. Your basically working a second job to keep that shit running

>>507180980
What disease does that guy have?

>>507189807
I fix it myself. I have all the time in the world and I pay $0 in rent and $0 in utility. I can afford it.

I've lived for years and no problem.

>>507189886
>I fix it myself. I have all the time in the world
sounds miserable. I have other things to do

>>507184703
answer

>>507180883 (OP)
>gets outlawed
get pwn chuds, you wont be allowed to live without paying the rentjew any more, goy.

>>507180883 (OP)
But not the lot rent jew or the property tax jew.

>>507190132
rv and vanlife people are flawed. They live in a poverty pod and try to pretend that's a good life. They spend all their time fixing a vehicle that is not even fun to drive and pretend that's fun

Quonset hut is gud alternative if you can customize the interior

Can you pirate EV charging ports?

>>507180883 (OP)
this lot probably needed a septic system installed, electricity wired to the property, and a 200ft well.

and you can think again if you think you can get away with burying your crap in the dirt. local authorities have nothing better to do than to notice new tenants on empty land.

also air streams arent cheap.

>>507181778
and she 100% does/has

>>507190332
It's also abusive to their kids. One "van life" or whatever family led by an insane always-smiling mother had a bunch of kids, and one of them, a girl of maybe 10 or a bit older said that for her birthday she wanted to stay in a hotel.
I think that says it all.

>>507184112
You could probably fake a septic installation desu. with just some small tanks with the big twist top lids. borrow some pics from another installation to show an inspector.

>>507190332
RV is fine if you setup for permanent residence like solar, water tank, fridge. It's quite comfortable and there's no poverty compared to renters in the city paying thousands. No money on rent means all that money goes to food and other stuff or less work like 10-15 hours a month only.

Van life is a fake lifestyle though.


>>507191428
No well needed in many counties.
95% of people where I live haul water or catch it in 1000 gallon+ tanks.

Also no utilities where I live It's completely offgrid.

You do need a compost permit though which is just building an outhouse which is not hard to get. There are many misconceptions about offgrid living in america. It's not as hard as people make it out to be, and not as expensive.

It does cost money, 30k but most people can afford rent so they can afford this.

>>507191707
Heh, pretty sure Boomer inspectors just check the few things that confirm it isn't fake, then move on.
And if you get caught, you can get large fines.

>>507191707
Compost permit.

Some people here though do spend 30k on a well system and they do spend 10k on a budget septic system. Not everyone here even has septic.

$1200/mo for 3 bedroom house in southeast Missouri. Can't go wrong.

>>507190142
Only $15 a year. I'll take that over rent in the thousands or a cucked house in the suburbs. I'll never bend to either of those.

America is still free somewhat. Most counties really dont give a shit, especially native counties because they themselves dont follow the rules. If you know you know

>>507184112
>How do you do it without being harassed by municipalities
They are all corrupt on native land. It's a great place to live just do what you want because the county doesn't really care and permits are backed up by years.
No problems for years. Nobody really gives a shit

>>507184382
>Most of the time it's people living in the desert in an unincorporated area so they can escape from everything and everyone else.
>You will be lucky if your neighbor isn't a fucking amateur meth cook.

There's distinctions with where you live.
1. The north of arizona and north east part of utah aren't really desert, they have much temperate climates and don't reach the temperatures like southern arizona. It's usually cool and windy with maybe 85 degrees at most in the summer.

2. My neighbors, without divulging too much info, are all older people in their late 40's. Mostly millenials and genX. They aren't criminals. I've met them, just normal people with a family from actually the big city.

>>507180980
how can someone be that sickly and pale despite being outdoors? blud must have aids or leukemia.

>>507180883 (OP)
That girl is getting her back fried by the sun...

No one needs to live in a Trailor if all the jews are dead.

>>507180883 (OP)
Airstreams are expensive, may as well buy a house. The Camper Jew is even Jewwy-er than the Rent Jew.

>>507193168
Even if you spent 50k on a used airstream, used truck, 20 acres of land it would still be 1000x better investment than renting for even 2 years.

You would make your money back on rent in 2 fucking years, that's how jewd rent is.

>>507181000
Or more. Ive seen the little ones over 70k.

>>507194611
Most airstreams are good quality. Its what all the boomers buy who go live in the southwest buy. The trope of retired boomers living in the southwest in their shiny airstreams is very common.

Most boomers are city cucks so they live in RV parks anyways with sewer and utility hookups because using an outhouse and then a bidet is too hard for them and they want to be 1 mile from the grocery store. Its cheaper than a house technically in some places because of taxes.

But then you're back at square one, being rent jewed from someone else stealing your money because you're too lazy to buy land in full with cash, plop an RV down on it and setup solar, water collection and an outhouse.

>>507192873
Or he's just naturally pale and doesn't tan much you fucktard

>>507180883 (OP)
airstream/large caravans are memes.

If you´re american:
https://www.penskeusedtrucks.com/truck-types/semi-trailers/place/us/

if you´re european:
https://www.truckscout24.com/tsp/ts-192-68-086

hire a truck to move it onto your own land, convert into a home there.

>Be in my 30s
>Was basically a fuck-up, college dropout, and struggled with a lot of shit after that so instead of finding and keeping a long-term career job, I just bounced around hourly work and don't have anything to show for it.
>My parents want to leave our home state/town, and retire to Florida. They know I'm not doing well, so they ask me to come with.
>Feel like shit about it at first, but shortly after my dad's health takes a nosedive, he can't walk anymore and needs constant help.
>Now I can't afford to get him care, so I have to be on-call all the time to help him and my mom do things, meaning holding a job is difficult.
>But on the plus side they've already said they're going to give me the house they live in which is paid for already.

Honestly, I was probably going to just go live in a trailer park or get some sort of conversion van/RV or something because that's about all I could afford. But then again, with house prices being astronomical and so many people turning to vans/RVs, those are skyrocketing in price too so honestly maybe even one of those would cost too much.

>>507185341
Can you imagine being such a bitch that you don't fight fire with fire? Oh you think that's loud, heh kid you are about to get fucking obliterated. Hook up multi microphone setup and insane surround sound with sub woofers to really show them what loud masterbation sounds like.

>>507195133
Airstreams are not comfy and get water spots galore. White is best.

>>507180883 (OP)
>>507180980
Who will win:
>based and redpilled anon who didn't fall for the rent meme and lives in a trailer
>a single black man with a knack for car robbery

>>507180945
Why do you hate people who rent so much, that's a very weird thing to hate someone for

>>507182393
Almost a 1 USD per gallon.
You can collect milknjugs fromnteash for free and connect them and have your 1000 gallon water tank for free.

>>507182393
It is hugelly expensive. It is only for the rich, living off grid