anyone manage to cure depression? Maybe its some made up bullshit but i just feel nothing, I work out, i look good but i just feel as if theres a deep pit of nothing in me. Are there any non pharma solutions to this? Ive been this way for years now, in my mid twenties.
what im doing so far:
>work out
>lost weight
>eat healthy
>never taken depression meds
>dont smoke
>dont take drugs
>take l theanine

antisemitism is on the rise

>>507263680 (OP)
I dunno man I am concerned that I am getting deeper and deeper in the depression hole but I won't be able to get out.

i dunno if im lazy or im just giving excuses for myself but i find time slow and fast at the same time, i take ages to do chores not because i dont want to do them, i just get into a fugue state. I forget how i was as a kid, maybe thats wishful thinking and i just got older.

free Palestine and all that

>>507263680 (OP)
>never taken depression meds
Take depression meds

>>507263680 (OP)
you need a gf, it will cure it until she stops giving you blowjobs

>>507263861
nope and never will.

>>507263680 (OP)
Yes

You're doing everything but maintaining relationships with family, friends and your community which is more important

>>507263680 (OP)
Take DMT or shrooms. Read the Personal Power series by William Walker Atkinson.

>>507263881
im married dawg and you just cant share this shit with women.

>>507263953
i tried but my family is so screwed up that it feels like a massive gossip ring where they tell me bullshit about x family member and expect me to care.

>>507263680 (OP)
You could find a good romantic woman and then fuck her hard and own that bitch in the bedroom.
You need the wholesome happy romance + dirty rough fucking therapy combo. That does wonders for your feelings but people forgot it existed. You CAN have your cake and eat it too.
Lots of sane women love being degraded (in the bedroom. you keep that in the bedroom)

>>507263680 (OP)
if those things stop working you should consider meds or at the very least check your bloodwork for vitamin deficiencies, test level. Sometimes they are only needed to nudge you into the right direction and help you focus on thing you want to do, so could be not only anti-depression meds but adhd meds too.

>>507263961
im scared that hallucinogens will make me schizo, i dont want to go down the serotonin syndrome route.

>>507263680 (OP)
Check your basic levels of vitamins and minerals.
>blood test

You may also be low on some minerals and not know it, and test won't show it.
>like Magnesium.

Check if you have enough Sodium (and low sugar), potassium, magnesium.

>sodium and potassium are basically the power that powers your electric motor.

your life lacks purpose and meaning. pain is how your body communicates something is wrong, and the gnawing void you feel is communication that you are wasting precious time. The solution is to realize your life's purpose and pursue it. Anything else can only hope to numb your sensitivity to this feeling through distraction and escapism, or literally numb it through Pharma or drugs and alcohol.

>>507264138
my test levels are high, never got them tested but my muscles are huge, no hairloss and strong libido overall. im probs undiagnosed adhd but ive heard those meds make you retarded.

>>507263680 (OP)
this isn't your blog you fucking faggot
sprint into oncoming traffic

>>507264259
yeah ill check that, my wife keeps a large stack of minerals but i forget to take them often. Are they costly vit checks?

>>507263680 (OP)
Have you tried cannabis?
Cannabis makes people happy.

>>507263680 (OP)
Testosterone by needle in ass, valium addiction and human relations. Nothing else work as far is I know

>>507264487
i got chs from it sadly.

It’s called being an adult male. Have you ever talked to your average construction worker? Everyone is depressed as shit.

>>507264439
more stupid shit has been posted here like UFOs and made up fake history bullshit
just take a break from the shill farm

>>507263680 (OP)
I don’t know man. I’m in pretty much the same boat. From all outward appearances I should be feeling awesome. I’m 35. Decent job. My own place. I’m in great shape. I’m a single father with full custody. No debts. I have a couple friends and lots of family. No reason for me to feel empty. The only thing I can think is that I’m craving intimacy with a woman. I’m currently talking to one that is really making me work for it and although she’s entirely different than what I typically go for, it’s still making all my alarm bells go off that she’s being like this. Only reason I’m still even trying is because if it ends up being nothing then I’m in exactly the same position I’m already in.

>>507264361
>undiagnosed adhd
That's usually caused by sugar and caffeine.
Stop sugar and corn syrup in any form (no swet drinks, no energy drinks etc).
Stop alcohol.
Stop caffeine.

Do extended blood work .
Check if you have enough minerals, above.
American diet is bad and it is low on various vitamins and minerals.
>unless you eat shit ton of meat or from organic store you are low
Also check basic vitamins - A , C, D, E.

>>507264270
yeah i guess men need direction and purpose to make life feel it has reason.

>>507264599
>chs
Well that sucks. Sorry to hear it. I love cannabis.

>>507263680 (OP)
Seek God
Open your heart to Him

>>507264468
MInerals are cheap, tests may be costly, depends.
If you don't have a doctor or insurance, an open male blood work may run you $300.

https://www.labcorp.com/labs-and-appointments

>>507264361
top ceos and high level managers always take adderall because they are like performance steroids, the side effects are probably not that severe because I know some of them take it ever since college into late career.

Also it seems that you need to open up your mindset a little if nothing is working yet you refuse legit treatment solutions because of convoluted understanding and fears.

>>507264721
hope you get better too anon, thats why i made this thread, get some hope from it. ill pray for us anon. Slowly i feel like something is taken away from me every day. Like having a big tasty meal in front of you but you cant taste it.

Yeah. I gradually came to believe that the kikes annihilating Western civilization through their insatiable avarice and irrational hatred is a net positive because these subhuman NPCs I'm surrounded by don't deserve modern amenities and would need to be killed off eventually anyway. Now I find fulfillment through preparing for what comes next and educating the few who will listen. YMMV.

>>507263680 (OP)
You need to find a woman
I don't mean "have sex incel" nor am I suggesting you try dating. I mean you need to actually get lucky and come across a woman who completes you. I think they call it a soulmate. Yes, it might sound extreme - but it's the only thing that worked for me. Good luck.

>>507264746
yeah i dont do refined sugars at all, but i do use caffeine a shit ton, without it i feel lethargic but ill give it a go. Are caffeine supplements worth it to wean of coffee/pre workout?

I don't know how to flip the switch exactly but you have to change the outlook in your heart. you have to go from everything being meaningless to everything being amazing. its the theraputic part of praying amd being thankful. I'm not even religious but it's true if you practice concsious counting your blessings you will have a more positive outlook. life sucks but at the same time its amazing it so weird that we are going through this existence so try to soak it in and dont forget to take in the good along with all the bad.

>>507265132
im married anon.

>>507263680 (OP)
Wont be a popular option here but i took ssri for a little over 18 months and my mood improved greatly and I feel way better than I ever felt before taking them. Been off them for 4 years and I would recommend it for a short period.

>>507264861
yeah i know just sometimes yer got to ask your neighbors.

>>507265296
yeah you didn't include that in your OP
have you tried having children? I've heard that's kind of the main purpose in life

>>507263680 (OP)
My will has been exhausted.

The lockdowns (2020) combined with discovering /pol/ as well as other alternative outlets and learning the truth has crippled me.

Always was an outcast but when I finished high school and went down the self-improvement road I had a plan and hope for the future. I spent 2 days in college before the lockdowns began and both men and women swarmed to me.
Weight loss, strenuous exercise, grunt jobs, martial arts, cold showers and austerity beyond normal, all self-imposed for years combined with surrogate and academic education on all practical subjects was my path to becoming what can only be referred to as Nietzsche's Overman.

But my will has been exhausted. The veil has been lifted. Reached the conclusion that I am a tax-cattle serf in prison nation where everything human and masculine is either illegal or prohibitely expensive. I can't hunt, I can't own firearms, I can't drive a motorcycle at full speed. Can't be a man. My only options are to drink, smoke, do drugs and gamble. If you keep up on global events you can see everything and everyone has gradually become gayer and more retarded and insane. Consequently I have become more alienated and ostracized.

I'm fine with being alone. Fine with nobody remembering or caring about any important conversation. I'm fine with life being cruel and unfair. I'm fine with at 24 never having had a social circle, a woman, real friendship, or any other milestone. I said it'd get better. It's fine. Life doesn't guarantee "Happiness".

>>507265065
Thanks man. I’ll pray for us too. I actually just sent some thoughts to The Father a second ago. I usually talk to Him often but I have been too distracted chasing women. I feel a little bit better already so I guess I need to keep the conversation going.

Unironically, yes, and I cured mine.

First thing you'll do tomorrow morning is do your bloods, testosterone, estrogen, prolactin, but focus on testosterone.

If its low or average, unironically, TRT or full on blast.

I've never felt better with a clearer head than on 500mg test e a week.

>>507264948
yeah ill check that out, sure im deficient in some areas, i eat only ground beef and rice most of the days and yoghurt. lots of fruit.

>>507263680 (OP)

Get a job. Get a hair cut. Stop using this website. Do things that affect your own life or the ones important to you.

>>507263680 (OP)
Kill a wild animal, cook and eat it. Rabbit or coyote it doesn't matter

endorphins. go make something that goes boom, maybe a homemade cannon. you will feel much better. that or make something else with your hands.

>>507264270
>realize your life's purpose
how?

>>507263910
retard

>>507265406
yeah i forgot too, thought i did. Too broke for it, lame excuse but i want them to have a better life I did. Maybe in a year we'll see.

>>507263680 (OP)
Do you have a purpose in life? Or do you just live day by day

>>507263680 (OP)
>anyone manage to cure depression?
I manage to cure it for 2-3 hours during a day, by getting drunk, the rest of the time it tells me to kms asap, which is my only dream

>>507265562
thanks anon for the kek too, probs why depression is low over in Iraq haha.

>>507265426
>do nothing social
>isolate grimly
>life becomes isolated and grim
What did you expect? A violent revolution? An invitation to a better career? You have to be remotely friendly for people to like you and you don't get anywhere unless people like you.

>yeah I'll take the bitter depressed burnout to help me out he sounds great

>>507263680 (OP)
your soul is fighting- stop beeing a simp, start beeing a man.
>men dont complain
>men do what they like
>men dont step down
>men drink beer
>men smoke
>men USE women

>>507265648
i stopped counting the days anon, everyday is just the same. Only lifting gives me a break.

>>507265563
you think of it in different terms. it sounds like generic self help crap but theres truth to it. invent goals. short term and long term goals make plans to achieve them. and dont forget to count your blessings. dont hyperfocus on everything that goes wrong and appreciate the little things that go right

>>507265426
I dont want to be happy just be at rest. This isnt rest, i feel dead.

>>507265616
Yeah, stack cash, have kids, see yourself in the little fuckers and try to give them a better future.
Prioritize your marriage over everything in my opinion. Your wife should be your trusted team mate and you two should be focused on keeping each other happy. Just focus on increasing your earning potential and roll it towards some children.

>>507263680 (OP)
Depression is a natural sign that you're doing something wrong in your life.

Say caveman goes hunting for deer. He fails to hunt a deer every time but he sees his buddies hunt them. He then gets depressed and stays at home not wanting to hunt anymore. He ruminates about his failures and all that he did wrong. By talking about his failures, he learns to overcome them from his tribespeople and goes out hunting again with new knowledge. He is now successful at hunting.

Your life is shit and you're doing something wrong. You are unhappy. Think about it and make some RADICAL changes in your life.

>>507265328
Sorry anon didnt read all that text before answering.
I would suggest online radicalisation

>>507263680 (OP)
I moved somewhere I wanted to live and that pretty much fixed it. I'm from a pretty depressing place and moved to the desert southwest.

>>507263680 (OP)
MDD survivor here!

How's sleep? That and vitamins are the only thing left. There shouldn't be any stigma about pharma treatment, they exist for a reason. It's a disease similar to high blood pressure without obesity or diabetes.

Honestly, sometimes, that shit's just neurological. Take a Trazodone and see how that + a good night sleep makes you feel. That shit's entry level and you can stop anytime.

Now, with that said, if it has been a while then the depression has made its way into some critical circuitry and your brain just functions like that now because of adapted to it. So you need to talk to a psyc about a treatment plan.

Here's where the 'caution' and stigma comes from: since everyone is different, everyone reacts to medication different and virtually most of them will cause sexual dysfunction or increase thoughts of hopelessness and suicide. You have to work with some professionals or IOP to get the right pill for your chemistry.

Add to that, it takes literal weeks to months to notice changes, so when you find a pill isn't working, it takes weeks to taper off and another set of weeks-months to start another one. Shit's fucked.

Better hope sleep vitamins and the Trazodone work

>>507265983
you know what anon, the caveman analogy got me for some reason, yeah I guess your right, im wallowing in my failures.

>>507265616
I always thought that too. When I was 28 I had a massive mental breakdown and said fuck it and got the ex pregnant. I had always wanted to make sure they had a better life than me and now they do. I encourage you to have faith that it will all work out. I’m doing better than I ever have before and the trajectory change was due to having children. When my first son was born I felt like my brain was being physically rewired.

>>507264173

Do dmt you whiny bitch or fuck off

>>507265838
I hope you will find a real purpose that will make you enjoy life again

>>507266005
I've thought about something like that. I live in michigan and its nice for about 3 months but the older I get the less I tolerate the cold. Plus michigan is pretty much a dead state as a whole. Aging population, dead spirit.

>>507266179
yeah i guess. I fear what if kids will make my life worse and my wife will leave me for being a bum but thats probably just the propaganda they feed us.

>>507265973
yeah, i just feel like a loser if im being honest, not to be whiny or self pitying but its just what ive ingrained into myself.

>>507263680 (OP)
>lists actions and drugs or lack of drugs
How about philosophy? How about you talk about what you think about when youre depressed?

>>507263680 (OP)
Be a hermit. Take up your controller. Get a sex doll. Wank long hours. Grow a beard. Summon that succubus. Never engage in physical sex. Get enlightened. Provide for your tulpa. Become a wizard. Listen to your muse. Defend your steam account and promote old school runescape online. Go to the forest. Drink magical potions. Do drugs. Get 11 hours of sleep. Wake up early in the afternoon. Monetize your spells. Read grimoires. Fight for your timesplitters remake. Sacrifice your pizza rolls to Mars. Don't take your pills. Build your tower. Play videogames. Never watch 3D porn.

Life is sweet.

Being a shut-in is just about the best thing that can happen to you. Embrace your powers as a mage. Bear the hooked cross.

Help your volk. Fuck the world. Save your games regularly.

Put. On. The. Fleshlight.
Right. Now.

>>507266124
Unless you live in a complete shithole, go for a walk every day and think about what's causing your unhappiness. Usually subconsciously you already know. Go walk in the forest if you can. Then make change in your life (very important). Change your dead-end job, study a different degree, move across the country, cut contact with toxic people, whatever it is.

>>507263910
As an atheist I can say happy are those who follow the Bible, it's the only way to get cured from anything, to become alive, to live and feel the life as you did it when you were a child

>>507263861
>addle your mind with drugs that make you numb and snap

>>507265563
It starts with realizing what is meaningful to you. There is no intrinsic meaning or purpose to anything beyond what someone ascribes to it. Once you realize what really matters to you, you can then decide how to live your life accordingly. I'm being intentionally vague because it could be anything from raising children, to activism, contributing to the arts or sciences. Whatever it is, the answer lies in self knowledge, whereas preoccupying yourself with distractions and escapism, while a temporary relief, is counter to self-knowledge and therefore to the solution.

>>507266346
I love my wife but she just isn't like me in some regards, im a rural boy who moved to the big city for her, yeah i was a bit of a simp but things lead to the other and we got married, fell head over heels for her, but now im unemployed and shes the breadwinner, i want to be the breadwinner, the one who gets the bag so she stays at home but i yearn for a place like i used to live in, the city just made me feel like shit. I didn't want to post like a blogfag but its a little bit of context, maybe im just venting to a bunch of lads i will never meet.

>>507263680 (OP)
Stop going on 4chan is an excellent start.

>>507266585
im in a complete and utter concrete jungle, theres no forest, no open spaces really but highways and redlines.

>>507265233
No idea, anon. But caffeine is what making it hard to concentrate.
Haven't tried supplements.

>>507266567
that might not be the answer for everyone but there is a truth to it in a sense that if you dig down and accept your actual reality you can make peace with your status in life. When you make peace with your reality you no longer resent it. You are no longer living a lie and the anxiety will fall away.

>>507266345
thanks anon, i mean it.

>>507264721
>Still making all my alarm bells go off
Trust your instincts and move on
I've learned my lesson on this the hard way multiple times.
RUN

>>507266460
The world has basically programmed people to think they're losers until they've taken on ridiculous amounts of debt or some stupid shit.
"There is no happiness in comparison" whatever

>>507263680 (OP)
take 30mg dextromethorphan + 4mg chlorpheniramine, just regular dosages of otc cough and allergy meds will boost your serotonin instantly

>>507263680 (OP)
You have to work to build value as a man or get lucky but for most of us its work. Only with value can you actually support or attract a wife or partner then kids. When you are the provider and others rely on you to survive you stop worrying about gay faggot shit like depression because you dont have that option. That's literally how men have existed throughout all history.

A mild ssri like Lexapro can help you to get out the rut to so you can establish habits and do things to rearrange your life that will make you happier in the long run, then you taper off them.

>>507265499
>>507265499
OK , see if your doctor can give you a general or extended male blood work (1 blood work year may be free).
If you want to keep it low profile.
Might as well just try supplements.
Magnesium glycinate is cheap. you can try that directly.
vitamin D is also very commonly low in US.

>its cheap and low profile your wife won't know

>>507263680 (OP)
Nope im 10 years in, same thing feel nothing. Just cope the best you can.

>>507264173
>im scared that hallucinogens will make me schizo
At some point is swim or die. If you can control a bad trip on drugs you can control the bad trip that is real life

>>507266748
count your blessing and make sure yo are doing what you would want to do with your free time. i am the breadwinner and I often fantasize about staying home. maybe its a grass is always greener syndrome that makes you want what you dont have.

>>507266976
yeah comparison is the thief of joy, i just need to make myself complete things, actually go through with stuff and stop being retarded. I just dont know what makes me stop stepping forward.

>>507263680 (OP)
Take the hedonist pill
Live only for pleasure, fuck all the NPC shills pushing stoicism.
Eat delicious food.
Goon to your hearts content
Do things you enjoy without feeling guilt or shame.
Avoid the alcohol jew, smokes and drugs cause those fuck your health big time.
Just chase pleasure and enjoy life while you can.

>>507266345
>I hope you will find a real purpose that will make you enjoy life again
This. this anon is correct. Men need purpose.

>>507265579
Prove him wrong

>>507267221
probably 4chan
I need to move all this fucking furniture around but that needs a block of a few hours and I just shit on the computer whenever I have that

>>507267213
yeah i guess having an abundance of free time doesn't make me appreciate the smaller things in life. I wish i had less time at home, so i could enjoy the small peace it would give me.

>>507266385
Well mine did leave so I can’t say anything about that but in my experience women have little to no idea why they do things. Once mine started acting weird I cut down my hours to bare minimum to take care of my children and that’s when the accusations started. She claimed I was hiding money and fucking her friend. It’s usually projection when they do that but she ended up assaulting me and went to jail, I had access to all of her devices and found absolutely no evidence of cheating and it’s not like she would have been able to scrub it all before jail. I never did get the real reason but the only thing I can think is that as I became more successful to care for my family, she took that as a sign that I was looking to trade up with my newfound success and confidence so she decided to explode the relationship first. Being a bum doesn’t seem to bother them, becoming better scares the shit out of them. They feel like if you become successful then they built you up just to be left.

>>507263908
I said the same for two years after my cancer diagnosis. It came back recently and found myself arguing with my wife and getting stressed being a dad. Started sertraline/zoloft 3 weeks ago after shouting at my daughter for the first time and might have been placebo effect to begin with but it was almost an instant change, and I look forward to enjoying life again while I can. I wish I'd done this years ago desu because it makes living with my wife much easier

>>507267282
I like this but I'd say drugs and booze are ok if you are honest with yourself. they are enhancers for some people. crutches and obstacles for others. I like to say drink to remember not to forget.

>>507263680 (OP)
you need to go on a vacation