In your opinion, who won the first exchange

Israel Strikes
>90 Killed in Iran
>350+ injured
>Commander of IRGC, Army Chief of Staff, Nuclear Scientists killed
>Nuclear sites in Natanz, Fordow bombed


Iran counterattack
>2 Israeli F-35s downed
>41+ injured, mostly moderate at least one critical
>Residential buildings destroyed

>>507266833 (OP)
>>2 Israeli F-35s downed
Literally zero proof, it's been hours since then and Iranians can only post pictures of Chilean pilots and Russian jets.

The Israelis are dancing. That's all you need to know.
https://x.com/Saul_Sadka/status/1933602931070079001

Well....a single F35 costs more than what 90 Iranians would make in their lives, so......

>Who is Winning?
There are so many spectrums that could buoy that word, Before the question can be meaningfully answers you will need to provide a cost function which narrows the focus of the game being played and whether a deception has landed and a gain of cash is brought to the touchdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2nhqGpsrfY

>>507267148
Doesn't cost Jews a single penny though.

>>507266833 (OP)
>why would israel lie about their casualties?????

us

>>507266833 (OP)
Never trust a lying cunt.

>>507266833 (OP)
iran top military is decapitated without warning and israel lost 2 civilians that were taking photos while air raid siren was on

>>507266833 (OP)
i cant take brown people seriously. im sorry but its just too comical.

>>507267007
Iranian military officials claimed to have downed two F-35s. I don't think they would make it up desu. No Israeli military figure disputes it yet.

OP casually omitting that the IDF HQ was destroyed

>>507269177
Gib source then, I was using Wikipedia here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2025_Iranian_strikes_against_Israel

>>507266833 (OP)
Punch for punch, Israel using all the US weapons/intel at its disposal is going to hit much harder and precisely.

However, they have taken their best swing, basically a surprise sucker punch. When it comes to a war of attrition that will be drawn out over months/years, Iran has a much better chance of winning that sort of conflict. Israel really was hoping that their sucker punch would KO Iran and it looks like it did damage but was not the KO they were hoping for.

The longer the war, the more likely Iran will win becomes. Israeli's are not resilient, if Israel actually becomes a warfare theater most Israelis will leave.

the media hype isn't real
israel is losing the world

>>507266833 (OP)
Eh, we still don't know much about the damage the Israelis suffered during Iran's retaliation, they are really good when it comes to suppressing information online. It took almost 5 months in order for people to find out that one of their air bases got hit pretty hard during Op. True promise 2.

>>507266833 (OP)
>who is winning?