Anonymous
ID: DqUn+6HY
6/14/2025, 7:14:29 AM No.507309067
Is fibromyalgia real?
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Anonymous
ID: 7AyPfllv
6/14/2025, 7:15:51 AM No.507309157
No, doctors in the West have to give you a diagnoses no matter what.
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Anonymous
ID: MmF9ECKd
6/14/2025, 7:15:59 AM No.507309170
probably just not with women they make it up for attention having a free card to be lazy
Anonymous
ID: 0/BFvz+8
6/14/2025, 7:27:45 AM No.507309905
>>507309067 (OP)
fibromyalgia has no objective diagnostic characteristics. It's the sort of thing you might get diagnosed with if you have the symptoms, and they can't figure out if it's something else
fibromyalgia is not at all real, but some people diagnosed with fibromyalgia do have a real disorder that simply has not been properly diagnosed. On the other hand some people with fibromyalgia are making it up, as chronic pain and lack of energy cannot be objectively tested for.
fibromyalgia has no objective diagnostic characteristics. It's the sort of thing you might get diagnosed with if you have the symptoms, and they can't figure out if it's something else
fibromyalgia is not at all real, but some people diagnosed with fibromyalgia do have a real disorder that simply has not been properly diagnosed. On the other hand some people with fibromyalgia are making it up, as chronic pain and lack of energy cannot be objectively tested for.
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Anonymous
ID: 4TtZgOJC
6/14/2025, 7:31:06 AM No.507310114
>>507309905
Same could be said of IBS. It's a catch-all term because our knowledge of the human GI system is actually piss poor. You know that we just "discovered" a new organ in the digestive system a few years ago? That's why scientific hubris is absurd. We know fuck all about fuck all. Medicine, for the most part, is guessing.
Same could be said of IBS. It's a catch-all term because our knowledge of the human GI system is actually piss poor. You know that we just "discovered" a new organ in the digestive system a few years ago? That's why scientific hubris is absurd. We know fuck all about fuck all. Medicine, for the most part, is guessing.
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Anonymous
ID: 0/BFvz+8
6/14/2025, 7:33:38 AM No.507310287
>>507310114
not really
IBS has characteristics that you can objectively measure, like abdominal bloating and inconsistent bowel movement, diarrhea, constipation, etc., that indicate that there's something wrong with the body. It's not very clearly understood, but there are literal physically measurable symptoms for IBS where there are none for fibromyalgia.
not really
IBS has characteristics that you can objectively measure, like abdominal bloating and inconsistent bowel movement, diarrhea, constipation, etc., that indicate that there's something wrong with the body. It's not very clearly understood, but there are literal physically measurable symptoms for IBS where there are none for fibromyalgia.
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Anonymous
ID: Jf6GnKjA
6/14/2025, 7:34:31 AM No.507310333
>>507309067 (OP)
>Restless leg syndrome
Sometimes I feel a sort of tickling sensation in my legs/ankles for hours. It kind of hurts and it makes it impossible to sleep until it goes away on it's own. I always just assumed it was onset diabetus.
>Restless leg syndrome
Sometimes I feel a sort of tickling sensation in my legs/ankles for hours. It kind of hurts and it makes it impossible to sleep until it goes away on it's own. I always just assumed it was onset diabetus.
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Anonymous
ID: afPZMG0/
6/14/2025, 7:36:16 AM No.507310439
>>507309157
>>507309905
The way is works is that a bundle of different symptoms are lumped together and termed a syndrome. Maybe everyone who has that same bunch of symptoms has the same actually underlying problem; maybe not. The mechanism of action is undefined and might be different in different people.
This holds true not just for fibromyalgia but also for many other diagnoses. ADHD, autism etc. are “disorders”, not diseases, because the cause isn’t known and a lot of different people with a very wide range of problems fall under the umbrella.
Sorta feels like they’re using 1800s methodologies still, as they update eg the DSM to add and change diagnoses. It’s not made up, but it’s halfway between science and lore; nothing about “having fibromyalgia” points you in the direction of any particular therapy that has a high success rate, for instance, so it’s just a bunch of witch doctor anecdotes and “hey this worked for me” isms, wrapped up in medical gatekeeping language.
>>507309905
The way is works is that a bundle of different symptoms are lumped together and termed a syndrome. Maybe everyone who has that same bunch of symptoms has the same actually underlying problem; maybe not. The mechanism of action is undefined and might be different in different people.
This holds true not just for fibromyalgia but also for many other diagnoses. ADHD, autism etc. are “disorders”, not diseases, because the cause isn’t known and a lot of different people with a very wide range of problems fall under the umbrella.
Sorta feels like they’re using 1800s methodologies still, as they update eg the DSM to add and change diagnoses. It’s not made up, but it’s halfway between science and lore; nothing about “having fibromyalgia” points you in the direction of any particular therapy that has a high success rate, for instance, so it’s just a bunch of witch doctor anecdotes and “hey this worked for me” isms, wrapped up in medical gatekeeping language.
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sage
ID: mBwd6hbM
6/14/2025, 7:36:22 AM No.507310445
>>507309067 (OP)
No.
There's no consensus on wtf it is or how to diagnose it.
I know 3 fat lazy women who use it as a way to claim disability payments.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with them.
No.
There's no consensus on wtf it is or how to diagnose it.
I know 3 fat lazy women who use it as a way to claim disability payments.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with them.
Anonymous
ID: BRu0qBXi
6/14/2025, 7:37:11 AM No.507310502
>>507309067 (OP)
no fibro is a catch all for they don't know
restless leg fucking sucks, is real, and they don't know what really causes that either
I have nerve damage and learned they really don't understand the nervous system, like at all
no fibro is a catch all for they don't know
restless leg fucking sucks, is real, and they don't know what really causes that either
I have nerve damage and learned they really don't understand the nervous system, like at all
Anonymous
ID: oDxjgRp6
6/14/2025, 7:37:16 AM No.507310508
>>507309067 (OP)
you should check for morgellons if you experience fibromialgya symptoms, research suggest that the two are strongly corelated but one or the other is commonly missed in diagnosis ( insufficient diagnostic protocols ) which poses a risk for the patient and oftentimes results in prolonged suffering due to insufficient treatment
you should check for morgellons if you experience fibromialgya symptoms, research suggest that the two are strongly corelated but one or the other is commonly missed in diagnosis ( insufficient diagnostic protocols ) which poses a risk for the patient and oftentimes results in prolonged suffering due to insufficient treatment
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Anonymous
ID: galDlvHJ
6/14/2025, 7:38:04 AM No.507310541
>>507309067 (OP)
No. It's an excuse to get weed, painkillers and be a neet. Same as depression.
No. It's an excuse to get weed, painkillers and be a neet. Same as depression.
Anonymous
ID: 0/BFvz+8
6/14/2025, 7:38:37 AM No.507310577
>>507310439
right, but with ADHD and autism we accept that these are disorders of the brain, not disorders of the body
fibromyalgia is not treated as a disorder of the brain, we act as though its a physical disorder despite by definition having no physical cause
right, but with ADHD and autism we accept that these are disorders of the brain, not disorders of the body
fibromyalgia is not treated as a disorder of the brain, we act as though its a physical disorder despite by definition having no physical cause
Anonymous
ID: Sg0bnZwm
6/14/2025, 7:39:35 AM No.507310629
I have fibromyalgia. It was a very difficult diagnosis to get. It took four years and two different specialists had to sign off on the diagnosis and sign off on the medication which they had to agree on so that I could be kept on oxycodone and tapentadol permanently.
I don't know what it's like elsewhere but it was extremely difficult for me to get these drugs I spent thousands. Now I am able to function without being overwhelmed. The last three weeks I did 10-14 hour days at work 6 days per week and that would be impossible without oxycodone to put me to sleep. The pain causes insomnia that can keep me awake for days.
I don't know what it's like elsewhere but it was extremely difficult for me to get these drugs I spent thousands. Now I am able to function without being overwhelmed. The last three weeks I did 10-14 hour days at work 6 days per week and that would be impossible without oxycodone to put me to sleep. The pain causes insomnia that can keep me awake for days.
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Anonymous
ID: afPZMG0/
6/14/2025, 7:39:57 AM No.507310652
>>507310287
Yeah so some syndromes are a bit more tightly scoped. I have probably had IBS, but basically all that means is that your gut biome can’t handle some particular foodstuffs and you get to discover the hard way what they are. Not the end of the world, but the science part of it is in an individual level; you need to keep track of what works well for you and what doesn’t.
Fibromyalgia is rather a catch all syndrome for people to fall into when nothing else describes their problem. It’s something like sudden infant death syndrome: it’s a public polite fiction to cover up for a harsh reality. In the latter case it’s sleep deprived women killing their children because they won’t stop crying or whatever; in the former it’s people who just cannot live their lives and have amplified every tiny ache and pain into such a massive problem that they need a label with which to claim disability money so they can just be shut up in a room somewhere and wait for death.
Yeah so some syndromes are a bit more tightly scoped. I have probably had IBS, but basically all that means is that your gut biome can’t handle some particular foodstuffs and you get to discover the hard way what they are. Not the end of the world, but the science part of it is in an individual level; you need to keep track of what works well for you and what doesn’t.
Fibromyalgia is rather a catch all syndrome for people to fall into when nothing else describes their problem. It’s something like sudden infant death syndrome: it’s a public polite fiction to cover up for a harsh reality. In the latter case it’s sleep deprived women killing their children because they won’t stop crying or whatever; in the former it’s people who just cannot live their lives and have amplified every tiny ache and pain into such a massive problem that they need a label with which to claim disability money so they can just be shut up in a room somewhere and wait for death.
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Anonymous
ID: t4skuvi1
6/14/2025, 7:41:11 AM No.507310708
>>507310333
checked and, based on my experience, you’re basically a deadman walking anon. but I’m not going to tell you what it likely is.
t. cardiologist
checked and, based on my experience, you’re basically a deadman walking anon. but I’m not going to tell you what it likely is.
t. cardiologist
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Anonymous
ID: cdJuBaR5
6/14/2025, 7:41:23 AM No.507310720
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Anonymous
ID: afPZMG0/
6/14/2025, 7:42:01 AM No.507310756
>>507310629
Yeah so we all think that basically you have some individual problem, unique to you, that’s equal parts hypochondria, being a bitch, and perhaps some actual unexplainable pain due to genetic deficiencies or whatever. We don’t believe that your diagnosis means anything in particular; it exists to get you on the dole so you can shut up and stop bothering the hospital.
Yeah so we all think that basically you have some individual problem, unique to you, that’s equal parts hypochondria, being a bitch, and perhaps some actual unexplainable pain due to genetic deficiencies or whatever. We don’t believe that your diagnosis means anything in particular; it exists to get you on the dole so you can shut up and stop bothering the hospital.
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Anonymous
ID: 1QJXY5Qf
6/14/2025, 7:42:06 AM No.507310760
>>507310439
>The way is works is that a bundle of different symptoms are lumped together and termed a syndrome.
This
Total pseudoscience like psychiatry. Psychiatry is the 21st century phrenology.
>The way is works is that a bundle of different symptoms are lumped together and termed a syndrome.
This
Total pseudoscience like psychiatry. Psychiatry is the 21st century phrenology.
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Anonymous
ID: afPZMG0/
6/14/2025, 7:44:10 AM No.507310874
>>507310760
Yes and no. If you look into how AI and machine learning function, “feature selection” ie “what categories matter here that I should measure” is a hard problem sometimes. The current qualitative work has a lot of value towards building out the range of possible features that can be investigated.
The problem is that we have taken naive correlations that are socially convenient but don’t actually have any hope of leading towards any particular cure for these patients.
Yes and no. If you look into how AI and machine learning function, “feature selection” ie “what categories matter here that I should measure” is a hard problem sometimes. The current qualitative work has a lot of value towards building out the range of possible features that can be investigated.
The problem is that we have taken naive correlations that are socially convenient but don’t actually have any hope of leading towards any particular cure for these patients.
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Anonymous
ID: 0/BFvz+8
6/14/2025, 7:44:23 AM No.507310889
>>507310629
I believe that you have pain, but you don't have fibromyalgia
you have an undiagnosed pain disorder and are treating it with opioids
I believe that you have pain, but you don't have fibromyalgia
you have an undiagnosed pain disorder and are treating it with opioids
Anonymous
ID: Jf6GnKjA
6/14/2025, 7:44:33 AM No.507310896
>>507310708
Good.
Good.
Anonymous
ID: i4IhemXi
6/14/2025, 7:44:35 AM No.507310899
>>507309067 (OP)
>Is fibromyalgia real?
it's real, but the nature of the disease is mental and psychiatric in nature, the physical body is typically healthy
>Is fibromyalgia real?
it's real, but the nature of the disease is mental and psychiatric in nature, the physical body is typically healthy
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Anonymous
ID: Sg0bnZwm
6/14/2025, 7:44:52 AM No.507310919
>>507310720
Just trying to get ahead of my mortgage while young.
>>507310756
The pain is most likely an abnormality in my brain to do with the part which processes pain which has been identified on brain scans. Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of exclusion meaning the cause of each individual case is not the same.
A diagnosis of fibromyalgia is your doctor saying 'I give up'. The idea that medical science knows everything already and there's nothing new is ridiculous.
Just trying to get ahead of my mortgage while young.
>>507310756
The pain is most likely an abnormality in my brain to do with the part which processes pain which has been identified on brain scans. Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of exclusion meaning the cause of each individual case is not the same.
A diagnosis of fibromyalgia is your doctor saying 'I give up'. The idea that medical science knows everything already and there's nothing new is ridiculous.
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Anonymous
ID: BRu0qBXi
6/14/2025, 7:45:29 AM No.507310955
>>507310708
why don't you just tell him he has blood clots and he's fucked?
instead you post about it like some self serving masturbation
your a pretty fucked up person
why don't you just tell him he has blood clots and he's fucked?
instead you post about it like some self serving masturbation
your a pretty fucked up person
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Anonymous
ID: vRlv1SgH
6/14/2025, 7:45:29 AM No.507310957
Anonymous
ID: afPZMG0/
6/14/2025, 7:45:51 AM No.507310978
>>507310629
Look at this guy, he’s on oxycodone permanently. We have, as a society, agreed to just dope these people up so they shut up and stop bothering us. Everything else around this is just a polite facade, like homeopathy, designed to promote some legitimacy in what is ultimately just a ploy to hawk opium.
Look at this guy, he’s on oxycodone permanently. We have, as a society, agreed to just dope these people up so they shut up and stop bothering us. Everything else around this is just a polite facade, like homeopathy, designed to promote some legitimacy in what is ultimately just a ploy to hawk opium.
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Anonymous
ID: cdJuBaR5
6/14/2025, 7:47:11 AM No.507311053
>>507310919
How’s your gut health? Vax status?
How’s your gut health? Vax status?
Game Over
ID: O6vEeRgY
6/14/2025, 7:48:57 AM No.507311160
Ive known 2 people with it and they were both insane cat ladys that lied about a bunch of shit.
Anonymous
ID: ClczijOm
6/14/2025, 7:49:06 AM No.507311171
>>507310708
>t. cardiologist
Hey, I have a question. I felt a weird sensation that I wasn't sure was heart related.
Basically it was like someone was pressing a football against the left side of my chest - a feeling which radiated through the shoulder on that side, too.
However, I did not experience pins and needles in my fingers or along my face and what caught me by surprise was how hot it felt. Not burning, but not.
Lasted about three minutes while I sat it out. Didn't really panic about it and just carried on afterwards.
Am I going to be free soon?
>meme as payment for your opinion.
>t. cardiologist
Hey, I have a question. I felt a weird sensation that I wasn't sure was heart related.
Basically it was like someone was pressing a football against the left side of my chest - a feeling which radiated through the shoulder on that side, too.
However, I did not experience pins and needles in my fingers or along my face and what caught me by surprise was how hot it felt. Not burning, but not.
Lasted about three minutes while I sat it out. Didn't really panic about it and just carried on afterwards.
Am I going to be free soon?
>meme as payment for your opinion.
Anonymous
ID: WAsr13J9
6/14/2025, 7:49:20 AM No.507311184
>>507309067 (OP)
>Is fibromyalgia real?
It's so old, the Grimm brothers wrote about it:
Sleeping Beauty works for like 5 seconds, hates it, pricks her finger aaand she's sick forever - until a prince shows up and rescues her.
Like Beauty and the Beast (taming a monster), it's a female archetype as old as time. Not a disease, but rather a female disposition that has a chancee to show up generation after generation whenever a roastie gets a taste of reality.
>Is fibromyalgia real?
It's so old, the Grimm brothers wrote about it:
Sleeping Beauty works for like 5 seconds, hates it, pricks her finger aaand she's sick forever - until a prince shows up and rescues her.
Like Beauty and the Beast (taming a monster), it's a female archetype as old as time. Not a disease, but rather a female disposition that has a chancee to show up generation after generation whenever a roastie gets a taste of reality.
Anonymous
ID: afPZMG0/
6/14/2025, 7:49:38 AM No.507311198
>>507310919
I don’t mean to be that mean to you though. Like, I believe you experience pain. I just don’t think that you’re particularly well served by believing that your random chronic pain shares any proximate causes with some other person’s without actual research into what’s actually going wrong with your body. You need a level of medical care that very few can afford, and your problem probably holds you back from making enough to afford that; and even under the socialized medicine systems we both enjoy, there’s no budget for your kind of situation.
Maybe I’m wrong - does having an umbrella label enable more fundraising, does it actually raise the chances of finding a solution? I just sorta doubt that, seems too ripe for grifting
I don’t mean to be that mean to you though. Like, I believe you experience pain. I just don’t think that you’re particularly well served by believing that your random chronic pain shares any proximate causes with some other person’s without actual research into what’s actually going wrong with your body. You need a level of medical care that very few can afford, and your problem probably holds you back from making enough to afford that; and even under the socialized medicine systems we both enjoy, there’s no budget for your kind of situation.
Maybe I’m wrong - does having an umbrella label enable more fundraising, does it actually raise the chances of finding a solution? I just sorta doubt that, seems too ripe for grifting
Anonymous
ID: cAPvK5el
6/14/2025, 7:50:45 AM No.507311250
>>507309067 (OP)
People think fibro isn't real because it's a neuro disease and not a physical one, the pain is real but it's all in your head. It's also pretty debilitating.
People think fibro isn't real because it's a neuro disease and not a physical one, the pain is real but it's all in your head. It's also pretty debilitating.
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Anonymous
ID: rJT6s/Fj
6/14/2025, 7:51:42 AM No.507311311
>>507309157
This, it's a billing code for lazy providers and shit patients.
This, it's a billing code for lazy providers and shit patients.
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Anonymous
ID: 1QJXY5Qf
6/14/2025, 7:52:28 AM No.507311339
>>507310874
>Yes and no.
Yes period stfu neural net statistical analysis is not a medical condition either
If you have a real condition you can observe it in the flesh, clinical psychiatry is even more devious by asserting certain groups of personality traits are pathological
A few of the major ones may have the majority of diagnoses linked to a real (as of yet completely unknown ) condition, for instance with ADHD perhaps it’s a certain type of nerve difference or anything else. But there would be an observable and testable cause. Not a checklist of characteristics ("symptoms") where you magically have or don’t have the "disorder" depending on how many of them you have, regardless of which ones you have
The entire methodology and approach is batshit insane imagine if they diagnosed covid by counting up the number of self reported arbitrarily decided symptoms of Covid the patient had
>Yes and no.
Yes period stfu neural net statistical analysis is not a medical condition either
If you have a real condition you can observe it in the flesh, clinical psychiatry is even more devious by asserting certain groups of personality traits are pathological
A few of the major ones may have the majority of diagnoses linked to a real (as of yet completely unknown ) condition, for instance with ADHD perhaps it’s a certain type of nerve difference or anything else. But there would be an observable and testable cause. Not a checklist of characteristics ("symptoms") where you magically have or don’t have the "disorder" depending on how many of them you have, regardless of which ones you have
The entire methodology and approach is batshit insane imagine if they diagnosed covid by counting up the number of self reported arbitrarily decided symptoms of Covid the patient had
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Anonymous
ID: BRu0qBXi
6/14/2025, 7:52:34 AM No.507311346
>>507310919
I have really bad pain that they couldn't diagnose and it sucked, it turned out to be neuralgia though.
Was strange, narcotics wouldn't touch it. Seizure medication worked for pain.
It was frustrating going through the system and no one believed me until someone did and correctly diagnosed me then correctly treated me.
I have really bad pain that they couldn't diagnose and it sucked, it turned out to be neuralgia though.
Was strange, narcotics wouldn't touch it. Seizure medication worked for pain.
It was frustrating going through the system and no one believed me until someone did and correctly diagnosed me then correctly treated me.
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Anonymous
ID: Zy48RwbE
6/14/2025, 7:53:26 AM No.507311382
>>507309067 (OP)
this is why we lobotomize women in the past.
this is why we lobotomize women in the past.
Anonymous
ID: 8OtEdrlP
6/14/2025, 7:54:00 AM No.507311401
>>507309067 (OP)
I have almost all of those symptoms. Am i going to make it?
I have almost all of those symptoms. Am i going to make it?
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Anonymous
ID: GkKyM6Yc
6/14/2025, 7:54:26 AM No.507311424
>>507311250
People think it isn't real because it's "Yesi feel pain everywhere all the time for no reason with no way to prove it. Except when I'm doing stuff I enjoy, then I don't feel pain. But if I ever have to do something I don't like, oh no no."
People think it isn't real because it's "Yesi feel pain everywhere all the time for no reason with no way to prove it. Except when I'm doing stuff I enjoy, then I don't feel pain. But if I ever have to do something I don't like, oh no no."
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Anonymous
ID: Sg0bnZwm
6/14/2025, 7:55:14 AM No.507311470
>>507310978
Drugs are effective means of treatment. Your opinion of them does not matter nor should you feel so important as to tell anyone else what to do.
Drugs are effective means of treatment. Your opinion of them does not matter nor should you feel so important as to tell anyone else what to do.
Anonymous
ID: Sg0bnZwm
6/14/2025, 7:57:02 AM No.507311567
>>507311346
It's a shit experience. I don't bother telling anyone about it unless they see the oxy.
It's a shit experience. I don't bother telling anyone about it unless they see the oxy.
Anonymous
ID: MGA5kWMT
6/14/2025, 7:57:17 AM No.507311578
>>507309067 (OP)
It's real and it fucks people lives, we need to find a cure for this cursed disease.
It's real and it fucks people lives, we need to find a cure for this cursed disease.
Anonymous
ID: vbf4raVE
6/14/2025, 7:57:38 AM No.507311600
>>507309905
It's this, my dad was diagnosed with it after he got the chicken pox as an adult that almost killed him and left him with debilitating arthritis....so it's probably just what they call forms of arthritis they haven't seen yet.
It's this, my dad was diagnosed with it after he got the chicken pox as an adult that almost killed him and left him with debilitating arthritis....so it's probably just what they call forms of arthritis they haven't seen yet.
Anonymous
ID: WAsr13J9
6/14/2025, 7:58:07 AM No.507311627
>>507311424
>Except when I'm doing stuff I enjoy
Devon Stack had an episode with a woman just like that (Fortress Edition). There's even a quote from her saying "her pain is hurting" - it's as real as good jews.
>Except when I'm doing stuff I enjoy
Devon Stack had an episode with a woman just like that (Fortress Edition). There's even a quote from her saying "her pain is hurting" - it's as real as good jews.
Anonymous
ID: rJT6s/Fj
6/14/2025, 7:58:11 AM No.507311667
>>507311401
Congrats faggot, you just passed for female on the internet.
Congrats faggot, you just passed for female on the internet.
Anonymous
ID: w1J6wYCC
6/14/2025, 7:58:38 AM No.507311689
What doctors don't want to tell you is that they often have no clues either, and simply give superficial symptomatic treatment for the symptoms claimed by the patient in order to keep them shut the fuck up.
Anonymous
ID: u46OQnqB
6/14/2025, 7:58:42 AM No.507311693
>>507309067 (OP)
I have seen multiple people diagnosed with Bipolar and other bs psych issues and they were fine and thrive to this day without garbage meds that make them sleep heavily and zombified. Oh and if they stop taking the meds? The dopamine and serotonin levels can induce severe depression or suicide ideation to make it stop.
Cancer and the other verifiable deseases are real, but shit like ADD, ADHD are easily thrown at dysfunctional kids to get them on amphetamines.
The autists are just genetic defects that would do dumb farm labor till death or die off from starvation when the parents died of some plague.
I have seen multiple people diagnosed with Bipolar and other bs psych issues and they were fine and thrive to this day without garbage meds that make them sleep heavily and zombified. Oh and if they stop taking the meds? The dopamine and serotonin levels can induce severe depression or suicide ideation to make it stop.
Cancer and the other verifiable deseases are real, but shit like ADD, ADHD are easily thrown at dysfunctional kids to get them on amphetamines.
The autists are just genetic defects that would do dumb farm labor till death or die off from starvation when the parents died of some plague.
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Anonymous
ID: IjiE+XJt
6/14/2025, 7:58:43 AM No.507311694
>>507310708
I hope you die screaming, for what it's worth.
I hope you die screaming, for what it's worth.
Anonymous
ID: r1JewhwW
6/14/2025, 7:59:32 AM No.507311748
>>507309067 (OP)
It's called being a targeted individual and DEWs
It's called being a targeted individual and DEWs
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Anonymous
ID: dqQ5BNeE
6/14/2025, 8:00:07 AM No.507311791
it's always inflammation from processed foods/allergies/intolerance/general fatfuckery
doing an elimination diet, drinking tart cherry juice, and NAC will cure 99% of people
doing an elimination diet, drinking tart cherry juice, and NAC will cure 99% of people
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Anonymous
ID: MGA5kWMT
6/14/2025, 8:00:16 AM No.507311801
>>507310899
>mental and psychiatric in nature
This is what clueless folks were saying in the 90s, but it hasn't been the case in almost two decades.
>mental and psychiatric in nature
This is what clueless folks were saying in the 90s, but it hasn't been the case in almost two decades.
Anonymous
ID: IjiE+XJt
6/14/2025, 8:00:21 AM No.507311806
>>507311693
You too.
You too.
Anonymous
ID: Endmu/qY
6/14/2025, 8:00:54 AM No.507311838
>>507309067 (OP)
OY VEY
OY VEY
Anonymous
ID: w1J6wYCC
6/14/2025, 8:01:20 AM No.507311861
>>507311693
>The autists are just genetic defects
That may be true, but they are the largest source of noticers. There must be a reason why they have survived genetically.
>The autists are just genetic defects
That may be true, but they are the largest source of noticers. There must be a reason why they have survived genetically.
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Anonymous
ID: MXpQTzrJ
6/14/2025, 8:01:42 AM No.507311882
>>507309067 (OP)
It just means "muscle pain" which could be a symptom of any number of things.
My dad developed debilitating muscle pain from using statins for cholesterol control in the early 2000s, and it was called "fibromyalgia". It stopped immediately when he ceased using them. Muscle pain is now a known side effect of statins in some people.
It just means "muscle pain" which could be a symptom of any number of things.
My dad developed debilitating muscle pain from using statins for cholesterol control in the early 2000s, and it was called "fibromyalgia". It stopped immediately when he ceased using them. Muscle pain is now a known side effect of statins in some people.
Anonymous
ID: wQvp8QWc
6/14/2025, 8:01:58 AM No.507311908
>>507310978
>Look at this guy, he’s on oxycodone permanently. We have, as a society, agreed to just dope these people up so they shut up and stop bothering us.
You try to sound so high and mighty as if you successfully deceived and tricked everyone
But you’re talking about giving painkillers to people who are in constant pain this is literally an appropriate treatment what’s even your point? If you do medical research you should just be ashamed you haven’t found the causes yet but clearly you have no work ethic and no integrity as a doctor
You’re one of the freaks who recommended prayers and bloodletting while laughing at the sick people who were sick until Louis Pasteur proved bacteria existed, you’re the sickness of society
You’re one of the freaks who killed Semmelweis because he forced you to wash your hands before pulling a baby out of a mother, psychopaths like you don’t belong in human civilization, you are antithetical to it
>Look at this guy, he’s on oxycodone permanently. We have, as a society, agreed to just dope these people up so they shut up and stop bothering us.
You try to sound so high and mighty as if you successfully deceived and tricked everyone
But you’re talking about giving painkillers to people who are in constant pain this is literally an appropriate treatment what’s even your point? If you do medical research you should just be ashamed you haven’t found the causes yet but clearly you have no work ethic and no integrity as a doctor
You’re one of the freaks who recommended prayers and bloodletting while laughing at the sick people who were sick until Louis Pasteur proved bacteria existed, you’re the sickness of society
You’re one of the freaks who killed Semmelweis because he forced you to wash your hands before pulling a baby out of a mother, psychopaths like you don’t belong in human civilization, you are antithetical to it
Anonymous
ID: LzhpF2Vx
6/14/2025, 8:02:22 AM No.507311930
>>507309067 (OP)
Malnourishment of micronutrients.
>>507310333
Eat food with bioavailable electrolytes.
Malnourishment of micronutrients.
>>507310333
Eat food with bioavailable electrolytes.
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Anonymous
ID: 53Y+7ebM
6/14/2025, 8:02:29 AM No.507311938
>>507309067 (OP)
t. Vagina (Puss)
t. Vagina (Puss)
Anonymous
ID: XE3aSMd5
6/14/2025, 8:03:36 AM No.507311999
>>507309157
Doctors do nothing to treat actual diseases. If you match every symptom for a disease they will look at the one thing not on their checkbox then order 100 tests to milk insurance money.
Doctors do nothing to treat actual diseases. If you match every symptom for a disease they will look at the one thing not on their checkbox then order 100 tests to milk insurance money.
Anonymous
ID: XE3aSMd5
6/14/2025, 8:04:16 AM No.507312031
Anonymous
ID: Jf6GnKjA
6/14/2025, 8:04:40 AM No.507312053
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Anonymous
ID: XE3aSMd5
6/14/2025, 8:04:51 AM No.507312060
Anonymous
ID: XE3aSMd5
6/14/2025, 8:06:11 AM No.507312137
>>507312053
>gatorade
Only has potassium and sodium. You also need magnesium and calcium. You probably already get enough calcium from your diet if you eat cheese. Citrus fruits are always good because they help with soft tissue damage.
>gatorade
Only has potassium and sodium. You also need magnesium and calcium. You probably already get enough calcium from your diet if you eat cheese. Citrus fruits are always good because they help with soft tissue damage.
sage
ID: mwXL4Pl5
6/14/2025, 8:08:28 AM No.507312296
>>507310652
IBS is a catchall but many of the diseases that fall under it are very real like chrons and ulcerative colitis. The idiopathy is unknown, but likely comes from the environment because I do not believe third worlders really suffer from these diseases. There have been some studies where CAR-T treatment of cancer induced colitis in patients though so they may figure it out one day.
IBS is a catchall but many of the diseases that fall under it are very real like chrons and ulcerative colitis. The idiopathy is unknown, but likely comes from the environment because I do not believe third worlders really suffer from these diseases. There have been some studies where CAR-T treatment of cancer induced colitis in patients though so they may figure it out one day.
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Anonymous
ID: XE3aSMd5
6/14/2025, 8:09:48 AM No.507312364
>>507312296
>The idiopathy is unknown
Yes it is, but medical science ignores all research into cures of causes of diseases. They only treat symptoms, goy!
>The idiopathy is unknown
Yes it is, but medical science ignores all research into cures of causes of diseases. They only treat symptoms, goy!
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sage
ID: mwXL4Pl5
6/14/2025, 8:10:43 AM No.507312416
>>507312364
Please share your forbidden chinese knowledge. It would be beneficial to millions.
Please share your forbidden chinese knowledge. It would be beneficial to millions.
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Anonymous
ID: u46OQnqB
6/14/2025, 8:11:24 AM No.507312460
>>507311861
Yes, but noticing is not enough. Shitposting is not enough, noticeposting is not enough...
You need sound testimonials, not someone who would be picked apart in an interrogation or court room.
It's nice they notice, but they lack the other 90% of their brains to do anything useful and by the book
Yes, but noticing is not enough. Shitposting is not enough, noticeposting is not enough...
You need sound testimonials, not someone who would be picked apart in an interrogation or court room.
It's nice they notice, but they lack the other 90% of their brains to do anything useful and by the book
Anonymous
ID: mpFWCq4/
6/14/2025, 8:12:39 AM No.507312544
>>507310652
SIDS is an excuse that medical professionals use to excuse women for killing their kids from either hysteria or post-partum depression.
SIDS is an excuse that medical professionals use to excuse women for killing their kids from either hysteria or post-partum depression.
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Anonymous
ID: AUgBOroO
6/14/2025, 8:12:49 AM No.507312552
I was diagnosed with this at 19yrs old, it took 11 years, many doctors and many injuries/dislocations doing every day activities to finally be diagnosed with Elhers-Danlos, if they did their job it was obvious to any real physician that gave a fuck, now i get dislocations from rolling over in bed. atleast i cant be drafted.
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Anonymous
ID: XE3aSMd5
6/14/2025, 8:14:37 AM No.507312686
>>507312416
There is no forbidden science. Modern medicine actively refuses to research treatments that work. Their executives admit "a patient cured is a customer lost."
There is no forbidden science. Modern medicine actively refuses to research treatments that work. Their executives admit "a patient cured is a customer lost."
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Anonymous
ID: 8Er6nheJ
6/14/2025, 8:15:03 AM No.507312706
>>507309067 (OP)
that just sounds like being a weightlifter after 25
that just sounds like being a weightlifter after 25
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sage
ID: mwXL4Pl5
6/14/2025, 8:15:13 AM No.507312715
>>507312686
Sorry I misread your post
Sorry I misread your post
Anonymous
ID: XE3aSMd5
6/14/2025, 8:16:08 AM No.507312769
>>507312552
I don't think genetic disorders are real in most cases, due to epigenetics. "Genetics" is what doctors say when they don't want to deal with the immune system or homeostasis based systems in the body. It's their excuse to justify "we won't treat your disease, but will sell you pills to treat the symptoms."
I don't think genetic disorders are real in most cases, due to epigenetics. "Genetics" is what doctors say when they don't want to deal with the immune system or homeostasis based systems in the body. It's their excuse to justify "we won't treat your disease, but will sell you pills to treat the symptoms."
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Anonymous
ID: Endmu/qY
6/14/2025, 8:19:18 AM No.507312960
Anonymous
ID: b94jETdj
6/14/2025, 8:19:35 AM No.507312987
>>507309067 (OP)
no, it was a long covid before covid became a thing
no, it was a long covid before covid became a thing
Anonymous
ID: 4TtZgOJC
6/14/2025, 8:21:56 AM No.507313134
>>507311791
Did all three. Still have my allergies and intolerance, and even avoiding my trigger foods just means anxiety and eczema and allergies torment me more than my gut. Going to give the steak and water diet a try because fiber fucks me up bad.
Did all three. Still have my allergies and intolerance, and even avoiding my trigger foods just means anxiety and eczema and allergies torment me more than my gut. Going to give the steak and water diet a try because fiber fucks me up bad.
Anonymous
ID: Vv+sR6Ak
6/14/2025, 8:22:40 AM No.507313189
>>507309067 (OP)
Yes of course but it's likely an adverse side effect from vaccination.
Yes of course but it's likely an adverse side effect from vaccination.
Anonymous
ID: TmA4xa2e
6/14/2025, 8:39:22 AM No.507314199
>>507309067 (OP)
yes but the actual reason is that they've turned food into poison that is slowly killing people. Even the "whole foods" have pesticides and other shit all over them.
It's basically a built up reaction to low grade poisoning, a doctor can't tell you you're being poisoned without evidence but your body is reacting to the low amounts of poison more harshly due to build up.
yes but the actual reason is that they've turned food into poison that is slowly killing people. Even the "whole foods" have pesticides and other shit all over them.
It's basically a built up reaction to low grade poisoning, a doctor can't tell you you're being poisoned without evidence but your body is reacting to the low amounts of poison more harshly due to build up.
Anonymous
ID: g+QdWX1C
6/14/2025, 8:57:48 AM No.507315315
>>507310708
Fuck you nigger for injecting people with the clot shot. Any doctor currently employed is an enemy. Vaccine cunt
Fuck you nigger for injecting people with the clot shot. Any doctor currently employed is an enemy. Vaccine cunt
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Anonymous
ID: p84yx07F
6/14/2025, 9:05:23 AM No.507315791
Anonymous
ID: EDsGTpt3
6/14/2025, 9:06:36 AM No.507315870
>>507310629
I share your pain anon
I share your pain anon
Anonymous
ID: MXpQTzrJ
6/14/2025, 9:09:08 AM No.507316020
>>507315315
I don't think a cardiologist is administering vaccines or having anything to do with vaccination.
I don't think a cardiologist is administering vaccines or having anything to do with vaccination.
Anonymous
ID: qmeVgV4o
6/14/2025, 9:14:41 AM No.507316346
>>507309067 (OP)
Well, it has the same symptoms as an extremely inactive physical and mental lifestyle.
Well, it has the same symptoms as an extremely inactive physical and mental lifestyle.
Anonymous
ID: FZKAcaP4
6/14/2025, 9:15:40 AM No.507316412
I was given a fibromyalgia diagnosis almost 10 years ago and it's exactly as >>507309905 says. They told me straight up it was a placeholder diagnosis. All we knew for sure is that everything hurts all the time and all my tissues seem hypersensitive to pressure. Turns out I have autism (sensory hypersensitivity) and a pituitary brain tumor that may be preventing my body from maintaining itself because my hormones are all fucked up, especially testosterone.
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Anonymous
ID: Br588THL
6/14/2025, 9:16:13 AM No.507316449
>>507310629
You sound like an opioid addict.
You sound like an opioid addict.
Anonymous
ID: rXOGZVtN
6/14/2025, 9:30:58 AM No.507317264
>>507316412
>Turns out I have autism (sensory hypersensitivity)
I think that’s a real condition too
I have it, all my senses are way better than a normal person, like I have super hearing, super touch, super smell etc like Superman, but senses aren’t tuned properly so I also have to deal with photosensitivity and super pain and noise being constantly loud and annoying
A lot of people who get diagnosed with the fictitious and invented condition of autism seem to have these symptoms, which makes me believe there likely exists a real medical condition that causes all your senses to be more powerful, likely a mutation affecting neurons globally, and that people with this often get diagnosed with autism
I take some mild opioid for the constant pain and it’s mostly solved the issue completely, life long but it’s not like I was fine before taking it, no side effect and I don’t need to increase dosage at all it’s really nice and non toxic, just fixes the constant little pains everywhere that you’re hyper attuned to
>Turns out I have autism (sensory hypersensitivity)
I think that’s a real condition too
I have it, all my senses are way better than a normal person, like I have super hearing, super touch, super smell etc like Superman, but senses aren’t tuned properly so I also have to deal with photosensitivity and super pain and noise being constantly loud and annoying
A lot of people who get diagnosed with the fictitious and invented condition of autism seem to have these symptoms, which makes me believe there likely exists a real medical condition that causes all your senses to be more powerful, likely a mutation affecting neurons globally, and that people with this often get diagnosed with autism
I take some mild opioid for the constant pain and it’s mostly solved the issue completely, life long but it’s not like I was fine before taking it, no side effect and I don’t need to increase dosage at all it’s really nice and non toxic, just fixes the constant little pains everywhere that you’re hyper attuned to
Anonymous
ID: mAfFhkah
6/14/2025, 9:32:00 AM No.507317331
>>507309067 (OP)
No, it's what middle aged women who don't want to work say they have.
No, it's what middle aged women who don't want to work say they have.
Anonymous
ID: mO/1S+mh
6/14/2025, 9:32:49 AM No.507317377
>>507310333
That's not restless legs but you definitely should start losing weight asap, fatty
That's not restless legs but you definitely should start losing weight asap, fatty
Anonymous
ID: rOknJCV1
6/14/2025, 9:34:51 AM No.507317497
>>507309157
>>507311311
the patients aren't shit.
you are on the bottom end of an absolute scam.
your masters are failing to achieve monopoly of the healthcare domain.
>>507311311
the patients aren't shit.
you are on the bottom end of an absolute scam.
your masters are failing to achieve monopoly of the healthcare domain.
Anonymous
ID: T0dn+NIg
6/14/2025, 9:37:33 AM No.507317670
>>507309157
really? every single time I've gone to the doctor they've told me all of my symptoms were just in my head and asked if I wanted anxiety meds
I don't go to doctors anymore
really? every single time I've gone to the doctor they've told me all of my symptoms were just in my head and asked if I wanted anxiety meds
I don't go to doctors anymore
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K̸n̷i̷g̷h̶t̷m̴a̶r̸e̸z̴
ID: gD4Ru+2E
6/14/2025, 9:38:03 AM No.507317701
>>507309067 (OP)
auto-immune disease where the immune system attacks the nervous system , causing aches/pains/etc
auto-immune disease where the immune system attacks the nervous system , causing aches/pains/etc
Anonymous
ID: Uz1uyWQg
6/14/2025, 9:41:22 AM No.507317888
>>507317670
>really? every single time I've gone to the doctor they've told me all of my symptoms were just in my head and asked if I wanted anxiety meds
>I don't go to doctors anymore
You go to doctors with 90 IQ and 0 integrity
A brainless NPC doesn’t suddenly become competent or smart or useful because he became a doctor, the useless masses are useless no matter what clothes they wear
In French we have a saying "l'habit ne fait pas le moine", something along the lines of just because it’s dressed like a monk doesn’t make it one. It dates back to the Middle Ages back when it referred to actual monks, showing that even back then and even with such a useless "job" there were still a ton of complete frauds
>really? every single time I've gone to the doctor they've told me all of my symptoms were just in my head and asked if I wanted anxiety meds
>I don't go to doctors anymore
You go to doctors with 90 IQ and 0 integrity
A brainless NPC doesn’t suddenly become competent or smart or useful because he became a doctor, the useless masses are useless no matter what clothes they wear
In French we have a saying "l'habit ne fait pas le moine", something along the lines of just because it’s dressed like a monk doesn’t make it one. It dates back to the Middle Ages back when it referred to actual monks, showing that even back then and even with such a useless "job" there were still a ton of complete frauds
Anonymous
ID: jtw9etCk
6/14/2025, 9:42:23 AM No.507317941
Yeah its real. Both my grandparents had it and once I got diagnosed I was discharged from the Army. Do I suffer from those symptoms? Yeah but I can still function fine. But it's real enough for some kike woman doctor to make you lose your fucking career over.
Anonymous
ID: 4aIuQ0DR
6/14/2025, 9:51:03 AM No.507318430
The gf is chronically ill. If she stops taking her pills she will die after a few months. It's not so funny. Fibromyalgia is just one of her diagnosis though so Idk. And it's true that a lot of is is psychological, but chronic diseases are very really and be glad you don't have one
Anonymous
ID: AUgBOroO
6/14/2025, 10:02:20 AM No.507319070
>>507312769
>07312769▶
>>>507312552 (You)
i mean ive been hyperflexible my entire life and it runs in my family, especially secondary diseases like scoliosis and scheuermans disease, heart issues from the vascular subtype also, scientific evidence doesnt care that you dont believe in it bro.
>07312769▶
>>>507312552 (You)
i mean ive been hyperflexible my entire life and it runs in my family, especially secondary diseases like scoliosis and scheuermans disease, heart issues from the vascular subtype also, scientific evidence doesnt care that you dont believe in it bro.
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Anonymous
ID: XE3aSMd5
6/14/2025, 10:08:03 AM No.507319372
>>507319070
>scientific evidence
>it's what specific people say is science and the rest is thrown out
Modern science is adult day care. Technology hasn't significantly improved for the better.
>scientific evidence
>it's what specific people say is science and the rest is thrown out
Modern science is adult day care. Technology hasn't significantly improved for the better.
Anonymous
ID: IrsnZxAC
6/14/2025, 10:13:22 AM No.507319669
>>507309067 (OP)
It's probably just symptoms of parasites and EMF
It's probably just symptoms of parasites and EMF
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Anonymous
ID: QePol+Hu
6/14/2025, 10:20:18 AM No.507320094
>>507311339
>imagine if they diagnosed covid by counting up the number of self reported arbitrarily decided symptoms of Covid the patient had
That's what they did.
They don't have a covid virus to see and the tests didn't check for anything.
Hell virology is a giant fucking scam too. Bioenergy fields and natural pathic medicine is the real deal.
I can't say anymore..i'll get killed.
>imagine if they diagnosed covid by counting up the number of self reported arbitrarily decided symptoms of Covid the patient had
That's what they did.
They don't have a covid virus to see and the tests didn't check for anything.
Hell virology is a giant fucking scam too. Bioenergy fields and natural pathic medicine is the real deal.
I can't say anymore..i'll get killed.
Anonymous
ID: XE3aSMd5
6/14/2025, 10:21:40 AM No.507320181
>>507319669
checked
checked
Anonymous
ID: /gykD5xE
6/14/2025, 10:36:29 AM No.507321056
>>507309067 (OP)
>Is fibromyalgia real?
no, it's just women watching tv all day and seeing big pharma commercials. then they go to the doc and the doc happily provides them with a medley of pills. they think the pills make them feel better but it's just a placebo.
>Is fibromyalgia real?
no, it's just women watching tv all day and seeing big pharma commercials. then they go to the doc and the doc happily provides them with a medley of pills. they think the pills make them feel better but it's just a placebo.
Anonymous
ID: A/p/MbQy
6/14/2025, 10:47:15 AM No.507321622
>>507309157
Retarded faggot
Retarded faggot
Anonymous
ID: A/p/MbQy
6/14/2025, 10:48:13 AM No.507321678
>>507312544
Its an excuse for vaxx deaths you fucking big pharma cocksucker
Its an excuse for vaxx deaths you fucking big pharma cocksucker
Anonymous
ID: ZzoatoI9
6/14/2025, 10:54:12 AM No.507322009
>>507310629
Check out ultra-low dose naltrexone. Upregulates opioid receptors.
Check out ultra-low dose naltrexone. Upregulates opioid receptors.
Anonymous
ID: vztETfZ3
6/14/2025, 10:57:15 AM No.507322177
>>507309067 (OP)
It's a fake disease but real symptoms. The actual cause is Spirochetes infection/disease.
Which is VERY common aka all 'new' diseases from the 20th century onward are 100% invented to create new diseases with pre existing symptoms. This also means old medicines can successfully treated and cure many diseases today but good luck finding it because copyrighted drugs and treatments are far more profitable.
It's a fake disease but real symptoms. The actual cause is Spirochetes infection/disease.
Which is VERY common aka all 'new' diseases from the 20th century onward are 100% invented to create new diseases with pre existing symptoms. This also means old medicines can successfully treated and cure many diseases today but good luck finding it because copyrighted drugs and treatments are far more profitable.
Anonymous
ID: kwed8tor
6/14/2025, 10:57:42 AM No.507322201
>>507309067 (OP)
Kinda? It's similar to pshychosomatic pain that depressed people develop (mostly lower back pain and gastritis/gastric ulcers i.e abdominal pain) from what I've seen/heard. The pain is real and goes away if you treat the underlying issue, but how it exactly develops is unknown. Fibromyalgia is in some ways similar iirc (haven't dealt with patients like that thankfully), but in their cases more often that now you either have some friendless lonely middle aged woman whose only concern is her stressful job (aka prolly similar pain to what depressed people develop) or someone who got injured, was increasingly prescribed painkillers that were too strong for them or the pain wasn't managed at all (the opposite and more common cause) and their perception of pain changes drastically until they develop the so-called fibromyalgia, basically a strong mismanagement of initial pain.
Kinda? It's similar to pshychosomatic pain that depressed people develop (mostly lower back pain and gastritis/gastric ulcers i.e abdominal pain) from what I've seen/heard. The pain is real and goes away if you treat the underlying issue, but how it exactly develops is unknown. Fibromyalgia is in some ways similar iirc (haven't dealt with patients like that thankfully), but in their cases more often that now you either have some friendless lonely middle aged woman whose only concern is her stressful job (aka prolly similar pain to what depressed people develop) or someone who got injured, was increasingly prescribed painkillers that were too strong for them or the pain wasn't managed at all (the opposite and more common cause) and their perception of pain changes drastically until they develop the so-called fibromyalgia, basically a strong mismanagement of initial pain.