This is political

>>507347612 (OP)
You're conflating corporatism with capitalism, they're not the same and capitalism doesn't fall in the diagram you showed

>>507347797
>Have a boss that gives you orders
>Follow the orders
>Make profit for the boss
>Gets sustenance
Totally follows under the diagram

>>507347612 (OP)
they aren't though, you reduce it this way in order to make complicated issues more easy to digest for your own lacking ability, a product of a system that enforces mental poisons on your mind in order to maintain a feeble sense of control over the plebian class, you are the product of abuse by a higher economic class of people, with greater access, that would rather keep you imprisoned and a slave to their fickle whims.

>>507348142
>make complicated issues
Pretty much all complicated machinery still follows Newton's laws. There are universal structures despite the complexities

while I agree with the diagram
there isn't much to say because its how the "organism" works
you have a body that does the work (arms, legs) and the brain that does the decisions

the only way to break this is to kms

>>507348357
You won't care much about Newton's laws when you're standing in a bread line for 5 hours each day.

>>507348694
I have stood at work for up to 12 hours a day to acquire bread

>>507347612 (OP)

>>507347612 (OP)
>All isms are the same
Wrong. Primitivism is different.

>>507349041
The structure remains despite relabeling.
I often see this being used as a rebutal for this, like some box isnt named correctly
A triangle is a triangle if you call the lines something else

>>507348997
yes, and it also afforded you some additional human necessities, like the gas for your car to go inna wood, the water needed to do such an important thing, the food, the radio playing all the great music you love along the way. You gave the right amount of input to the thing, and so long as it isn't being abused- it fulfills enough to sustain basic human needs, unlike plenty other isms that prey upon us with their Stockholm Syndrome bullshits.

>>507349380
>it fulfills enough to sustain basic human needs,
So does the bread line. Futher, all of this is included in my diagram. You seem to have a visceral reaction, as if i was somehow defending communism because its just like a reflex for you, as if you were on the wrong thread but you cant help your reflexes

>>507349327
Maybe he's saying that the same form doesn't give the same function if the substance is different.

>>507349546
suicide was insanely high among all communist nations, but maybe that was just related to uhh- the weather or something eh?

>>507349579
Nazi Germany also had people giving orders and people following orders. They produced, received sustenace and what remained was profit for the order givers.

>>507349792
>Nazi Germany also had people giving orders and people following orders. They produced, received sustenace and what remained was profit for the order givers.
That's my point. Your OP seems to imply that these systems are produce misery because they share the same structure. One may argue it's not the structure but the kikes infesting it, and even provide Nazi Germany as a counter-example to your argument exactly on the basis you just presented.

>>507350050
>Your OP seems to imply that these systems are produce misery because they share the same structure
No, i only said the share the same structure
A lot of political changes are just relabeling, though not all. For instance the nature of the orders given can change, the amounts of production sent for profit or for sustenance can change. So theres some room for tinkering with the eternal structure

>>507350444
>the eternal structure
That structure is only a consequence. It's determined by the number of people a society consists of.

>>507350666
>That structure is only a consequence. It
didnt say it wasnt
An alternative is to just work alone or with your family, like a sustance farmer or artisan, or at best a small worker cooperative, with no larger structures over them such as, eh, police?

>>507347612 (OP)
but how do they make profit out of it though
protests only cause loss?

>>507350882
>didnt say it wasnt
Didn't say you said it wasn't.

>An alternative is to just work alone or with your family, like a sustance farmer or artisan, or at best a small worker cooperative, with no larger structures over them such as, eh, police?
Close. Tribes, anon. Tribes are exempt from that structure and allow for more variety.

>>507351143
>but how do they make profit out of it though
Production=Sustance+Profit
Profit is just a fraction of what is produced. Workers have to eat, this is called sustenance. Is the same as running a dairy farm, you have to feed the cows
Milk-Feed=Profit

YOU CANT CLOCKWORK ORANGE OR SOMETHING AND THROW AWAY THE PEEL!!!