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Anonymous ID: ug8lsDEhUnited States
6/15/2025, 9:10:22 PM No.507503969
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Even before the USSR was ever a thing, most Americans did not care for socialism. Even as American workers got into irl gunfights with strikebreakers, they did not care for abolishing class or capitalism and their goals were less “let’s seize the means of production” and more “fuck you, pay me”. This was literally noted by Marxists like Trotsky who were apparently horrified by Americans not giving a damn about class conflict.

Americans are not anti-socialist because of “mUh ReD sCaRe”, Americans were always anti-Socialist even before the USSR was a thing because simply put, Socialism does not appeal to your average American and never will.
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Anonymous ID: qPduki3AUnited Kingdom
6/15/2025, 9:12:23 PM No.507504175
>>507503969 (OP)
Americans will always say there isn't a class system in the US whilst their blatantly is and it's even more fucked up than ours.
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Anonymous ID: pt1C9Pr3
6/15/2025, 9:13:20 PM No.507504268
Mao was right about landlords
Anonymous ID: H6o9TQaECanada
6/15/2025, 9:18:12 PM No.507504755
>>507503969 (OP)
Same in Canada. I think the reason is the countries are way too big, if New York sucks you can just move to California and start over again. There’s never been any far left or right party here that was anywhere close to coming to power.
Anonymous ID: GdNgHMpbUnited States
6/15/2025, 9:33:22 PM No.507506154
>>507504175
We dont care.
Socialism is a rejection of your rigid monarchies caste systems.
We got rid of that system and replaced it with a true capitalist system where classes exist, but mobility between them is actually possible.
This is why everyone in the world wants to be an American despite talking so much shit.
Everything socialists criticize about capitalism only really applies to shitty European monarchies.
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Anonymous ID: RipXmmNCUnited States
6/15/2025, 9:37:02 PM No.507506516
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>>507503969 (OP)
You're retarded. In the 1930s, there was substantial support for hard-core socialists and even fun quasi-socialists like Huey Long. Roosevelt saved capitalism from itself be appeasing some of what these people demanded. The US government later managed to break these American socialist groups in various ways.

As life gets increasingly automated and traditional life turns into some dystopian freak show, you will be increasingly worried about your basic needs being met. Socialism will be asked for again.
Anonymous ID: CN6hBdLh
6/15/2025, 9:43:05 PM No.507507154
>>507506154
>mobility is possible between classes
Go fuck yourself