REVELATION 18: ISRAEL IS BABYLON - /pol/ (#507524972) [Archived: 1065 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: fbKYupsOUnited States
6/16/2025, 12:43:08 AM No.507524972
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Lament Over Fallen Babylon

18 After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor. 2 With a mighty voice he shouted:

“‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’[a]
She has become a dwelling for demons
and a haunt for every impure spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.
3
For all the nations have drunk
the maddening wine of her adulteries.
The kings of the earth committed adultery with her,
and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”
Warning to Escape Babylon’s Judgment

4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say:

“‘Come out of her, my people,’[b]
so that you will not share in her sins,
so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
5
for her sins are piled up to heaven,
and God has remembered her crimes.
6
Give back to her as she has given;
pay her back double for what she has done.
Pour her a double portion from her own cup.
7
Give her as much torment and grief
as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
In her heart she boasts,
‘I sit enthroned as queen.
I am not a widow;[c]
I will never mourn.’
8
Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
death, mourning and famine.
She will be consumed by fire,
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.
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Anonymous ID: fbKYupsOUnited States
6/16/2025, 12:44:22 AM No.507525085
Threefold Woe Over Babylon’s Fall

9 “When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her. 10 Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry:

“‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
you mighty city of Babylon!
In one hour your doom has come!’

11 “The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore— 12 cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble; 13 cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and human beings sold as slaves.

14 “They will say, ‘The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your luxury and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.’ 15 The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn 16 and cry out:

“‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
dressed in fine linen, purple and scarlet,
and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!
17
In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!’

“Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off. 18 When they see the smoke of her burning, they will exclaim, ‘Was there ever a city like this great city?’ 19 They will throw dust on their heads, and with weeping and mourning cry out:

“‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
where all who had ships on the sea
became rich through her wealth!
In one hour she has been brought to ruin!’

“Rejoice over her, you heavens!
Rejoice, you people of God!
Rejoice, apostles and prophets!
For God has judged her
Anonymous ID: fbKYupsOUnited States
6/16/2025, 12:44:40 AM No.507525113
“Rejoice over her, you heavens!
Rejoice, you people of God!
Rejoice, apostles and prophets!
For God has judged her
with the judgment she imposed on you.”
The Finality of Babylon’s Doom

21 Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said:

“With such violence
the great city of Babylon will be thrown down,
never to be found again.
22
The music of harpists and musicians, pipers and trumpeters,
will never be heard in you again.
No worker of any trade
will ever be found in you again.
The sound of a millstone
will never be heard in you again.
23
The light of a lamp
will never shine in you again.
The voice of bridegroom and bride
will never be heard in you again.
Your merchants were the world’s important people.
By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
24
In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people,
of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.”
Anonymous ID: pWk1X8eS
6/16/2025, 12:50:15 AM No.507525652
I know two demons in a country that is not Israel. One is always thinking of ways to harm people. The other is always thinking of ways to take advantage of others. Both seem not interested or capable of thinking differently.

Those demons are out there, and they use human bodies. But you can pinpoint them by their actions.
Anonymous ID: i1MzBr1eUnited States
6/16/2025, 12:53:22 AM No.507525942
Zechariah 12
Zechariah 12
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>>507524972 (OP)
What say you about Zechariah 12?
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Anonymous ID: aODPwH+kCanada
6/16/2025, 1:07:44 AM No.507527317
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Anonymous ID: fbKYupsOUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:13:16 AM No.507527831
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>>507525942
>What say you about Zechariah 12?
I say that the 'Jews' are not of the house of David or Judah. They are Canaanites and Edomites.

The Palestinians are Judahites.
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Anonymous ID: fbKYupsOUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:13:33 AM No.507527858
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Anonymous ID: fbKYupsOUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:13:48 AM No.507527885
Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites
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6/16/2025, 1:14:27 AM No.507527938
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Anonymous ID: xPCdD1nG
6/16/2025, 1:19:02 AM No.507528374
Rev describes the genocide in Gaza, martyrdom of children and heroes. And how for 3 and half days the entire world watched them being prevented from burying their dead, how the infidels gloated. And finally how they ascended to Heaven as their enemies watched. Then the Antichrist and his army thtown into a lake of fire
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Anonymous ID: i1MzBr1eUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:19:31 AM No.507528417
>>507527831
>will never be heard in you again.
It specifically mentions Jerusalem and *it's inhabitants*
Anonymous ID: xFEzLogJ
6/16/2025, 1:21:35 AM No.507528617
>“‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’[a]
She has become a dwelling for demons
and a haunt for every impure spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.
3
For all the nations have drunk
the maddening wine of her adulteries.
The kings of the earth committed adultery with her,
and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”

Oddly enough, this could apply to China.
Anonymous ID: SUqyrTGiNew Zealand
6/16/2025, 1:22:19 AM No.507528675
It's about Babylon you faggot retards
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Anonymous ID: ve1IwRUDUnited Kingdom
6/16/2025, 1:23:48 AM No.507528826
>>507527831
You both aren't.

It's not about who is closest to 50% ..

Both Jews and pallies are misceginated abominations or they both are the only remnant of a former race
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Anonymous ID: QgyPm8GTUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:23:50 AM No.507528833
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>>507524972 (OP)
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Anonymous ID: y8y7zYNU
6/16/2025, 1:24:21 AM No.507528876
>>507528675
Babylon = Rabbinic Judaism
Anonymous ID: QgyPm8GTUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:24:39 AM No.507528907
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>>507528826
>you have subscribe to my false dichotomy goy

shut your whore mouth, canaanite
Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:25:27 AM No.507528985
>>507524972 (OP)
>>507524972 (OP)
The United States currently holds the crown of Babylon. Israel is the Whore of Babylon.

Exodus 26:36
“And thou shalt make an hanging for the door of the tent, of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen, wrought with needlework.”

Exodus 28:
4 . . . and they shall make holy garments for Aaron thy brother, and his sons, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office.
5 And they shall take gold, and blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine linen.
6 And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.
7 It shall have the two shoulderpieces thereof joined at the two edges thereof; and so it shall be joined together.
8 And the curious girdle of the ephod, which is upon it, shall be of the same, according to the work thereof; even of gold, of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.

If one compares this to the colors of the whore, it's all there except the blue. What was the symbolism behind the blue?


Numbers Chapter 15
38 Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue:
39 And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the LORD, and do them; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring:

The blue was to remind Israel to do things 1) Keep the commandments and 2) not go WHORING after other gods or go after their own hearts.
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Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:26:04 AM No.507529039
>>507524972 (OP)
Lmao, No it isn’t, evangelical internet retard. Babylon is a metaphorical place used to describe megalopoli and the decadent modern world. Basically the whole world is one giant city now, a giant babylon. The jews are thensynagogue of satan and that includes israel.
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Anonymous ID: 5vfPR0SGUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:26:36 AM No.507529096
>>507528675
It’s not. It’s about Rome. It’s a Jewish jerk-off fantasy about Yahweh killing the Roman occupiers and the Jews who collaborated with them. Think flowery Islamic screed about the Great Satan or whatever. That’s what it is, and that’s what Jews were like 2000 years ago.
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Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:27:20 AM No.507529176
>>507528374
It probably doesn’t talk specifically about that, anon. It’s compiled in there with all of the other massacres the jews and their gems have conducted over the past century.
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Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:28:41 AM No.507529300
>>507528675
>>507529096
Both of you are illiterate retards who can’t into basic poetic. I wish there was some eay to prevent peasant stock filth like you crom learning how to read and write.
Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:29:16 AM No.507529360
>>507528374
>>507529176
GOLEMS*. My (((autocorrect))) hates that word lmfao.
Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:34:07 AM No.507529798
>>507528985
Finally, Revelation 17 tells us exactly who the Whore is. The whore is apostate Israel that has abandoned God. She rides the first beast and is "drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus:" Israel is the original persecutor of the Church. She is the mother, the originator, of all the abominations. Over and over again in the Old Testament, God tells Israel she is a whore, and later in the divided kingdom, both Israel and Judah are called Whores.

In Revelation 17, it says this: And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth." Revelation tells us what that city is. Revelation 11, speaking about the two prophets in the end times it says this: "8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."

So, according to Scripture, the great city is Jerusalem, because that's where Jesus was crucified.

What we might be about to see is the fulfillment (again) of Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

When you see ten nations that represent the Beast out of the Sea (international coalition) go to war with Israel, know the murderers of the incarnate Son of God are about to be burned with fire and destroyed.
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JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:37:08 AM No.507530084
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>>507524972 (OP)
Nope
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Anonymous ID: YUiKNpD4France
6/16/2025, 1:38:52 AM No.507530266
>In one hour your doom has come!’
Anonymous ID: 5vfPR0SGUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:42:12 AM No.507530577
>>507529798
The Whore of Babylon were Jews who collaborated with the occupying Romans, specifically the Temple functionaries, the Sadducees. The author of Revelation— or at least the apocalypse that makes up the core of the text— was a Messianic Jewish wignat, and the collaborators were his hated enemy. Think of some fundy Muslims who despise their fellow Muslims eager to take part in a ZOG puppet government.

The whole thing is a fantasy about Yahweh liquidating the occupying goyim, purging the Jewish collaborators and purifying the Temple again.
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Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:46:45 AM No.507530987
>>507530577
Yes, if one is a preterist, that is true and one possible interpretation of Revelation. However, just because a thing - a poem, a metaphor, etc. can be applied to one situation in history, does not preclude it from being applied to something in the future.

Your assertion
>.The author of Revelation— or at least the apocalypse that makes up the core of the text— was a Messianic Jewish wignat.
Might also be true. I think based on the testimony of the early church fathers, it was John. Is it apocalyptic literature? Of course.
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6/16/2025, 1:51:37 AM No.507531445
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>>507524972 (OP)
I'd say the USA in recent times is more fitting of the description.
>“Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great!
Fallen away from the faith. (see verse below for more context). The US was once a heavily Christian nation, less so these days.
>3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Thessalonians 2:3
>She has become a dwelling place for demons,
>a haunt for every unclean spirit,
>a haunt for every unclean bird,
Something I noticed in deliverance (exorcism) accounts; there's a lot of bird type spirits in the Americas. E.g. attached pic is to do with Native American associated demons.
>3 For all nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed immorality with her,
Gender Lies, 'LGBT', Gay 'Marriage', abortion, etc, originates/spread from the US. The World looks to the USA as the example.
>and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living.”
The USA is the prime example of 'luxurious living'.
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Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:51:43 AM No.507531456
>>507530084
You need to read the Bible for yourself. Revelation identifies the Whore as "that great city". Revelation also defines "that great city" as the place Jesus was crucified. Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem. Therefore, the Whore of Revelation is Jerusalem, in Israel.
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Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:53:37 AM No.507531647
>>507529798
No, retard. The Whore of Babylon is a metaphor for modern women, who rule Babylon under their jewish masters and to whom “kings of the earth and all men” kneel to and try to fornicate with.

It’s obvious that you’re a dumb evangelical idiot with a 90 IQ.
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Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:54:10 AM No.507531712
>>507530577
Doesn’t even make sense, retarded kike. Whore of Babylon is modern women.
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Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:55:00 AM No.507531791
>>507531445
>The USA is the prime example of 'luxurious living'.
That’s a joke right? Unless you are referring to pre-2006.
Anonymous ID: BiNFATyvUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:56:43 AM No.507531955
>>507524972 (OP)
Our country is Babylon you idiot.
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Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:56:54 AM No.507531983
>>507531647
I think you're the mouth breather. Revelation explains exactly who the Great Whore is. Are modern women whores? most of them.
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Anonymous ID: 5vfPR0SGUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:04:47 AM No.507532755
>>507530987
It’s a Messianic Jewish fantasy about a Messiah who gets the attention of Yahweh, who unleashes his heavenly armies and holy fire on the occupying Romans to establish a purified, goy-free “Kingdom of God” in place of Roman colonial rule. The letters to the churches and Christ and lovey-dovey stuffs are later Christian additions. John of Patmos is a fictional character used to distance the messiah from the anti-Roman, genocidal visions, which were no doubt originally the visions of the Messiah himself.

It’s a very specific thing in a very specific historical context. It’s not a prediction so much as it is a wish-fantasy of some powerless but bloodthirsty Semites.
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JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:07:51 AM No.507533010
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>>507531456
Babylon the Great represents all religions on earth that oppose God. All of them.

>(Revelation 17:5) And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.”

>(Revelation 17:1) And one of the seven angels that had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying: “Come, I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters,

>(Revelation 17:15) And he says to me: “The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.

>(Revelation 17:18) And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

The Great Harlot has many daughters, controls all the kings of the Earth, and all nations, tongues, and people. This can't just be the Jews and the Catholic Church because the RCC is limited to certain areas on earth now in influence. The "daughters" are desendants of the RCC which is now the Anglicans, Evangelicals, Protestants, and arguably Islam. Since this includes ALL the entire inhabited Earth then this would also include pagan religions as well like Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Confusionism, Taoism, etc.

Babylon the Great is the WORLD EMPIRE OF FALSE RELIGION. It is ALL organized FALSE religion.
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Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:08:17 AM No.507533052
>>507532755
>The letters to the churches and Christ and lovey-dovey stuffs are later Christian additions.
Prove it
>John of Patmos is a fictional character used to distance the messiah from the anti-Roman, genocidal visions
Prove it.

I need to see the evidence. As it stands, I will trust the early church fathers who were closer in time and space to the writing of Revelation over you and your Jr College professor.
Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:09:38 AM No.507533201
>>507531983
All of them are sodomite prostitutes, retard. The soul of the city are the whores themselves. The hooker’s name in Rev is “Mystery”, a typical stripper name. Look the fuck around you old man.
JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:10:37 AM No.507533295
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>>507531456
>>507533010
Babylon in Revelations refers to the ancient city of Babylon where Nimrod created the first ever false religion. This false religion would spread throughout the Earth when the languages were confused. Since then all false religion, including Christendom, has its origins with ancient Babylon before the confusion of languages.

A few thousand years later...

The Babylonian Empire oppressed God’s people for 70 years. Jehovah would rise up Cyrus the Great of the Medes and Persians as his instrument of war. Cyrus would have the waters of the Tigris and Ufrates rivers dried which lowered the moat of the city of Babylon. This would allow the Persians to conquer Babylon.

The modern day interpretation is that Babylon the Great is also surrounded by many waters(worshippers) and they would start drying up over time. Then the >>507530084 Scarlet Colored Wild Beast would turn against her and kill her. This is known as the Great Tribulation.
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Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:10:41 AM No.507533300
>>507531955
Dumb boomers wont get it, they’re in a bubble and bury their heads like ostriches. I bet the retard even believes in the Redditpture lmfao.
Anonymous ID: QgyPm8GTUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:11:44 AM No.507533397
>>507533295
>Since then all false religion, including Christendom

prove it, canaanite
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JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:13:52 AM No.507533585
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>>507533397
The Bible determines who the correct followers are and who are counterfeit. If any "Christianity" believes in:

>Trinity
>Jesus is God
>Hell
>Immortal Soul
>Getting involved in politics
>military services
>voting
>taking office
>Christmas
>Pagan holidays
>Censor Gods name
>refuse to preach
>evolution
>faith without works
>Apostolic Succession
>miracles
>healing
>tithing
>mass
>refuse political neutrality
>predestination

Then they are not Christians. The Bible is against all that. So 99.99% of all sects are counterfeit. Almost all these beliefs originated in Ancient Babylon before the confusion of languages. Once the languages were confused everyone took these beliefs with them around the world.
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Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:14:02 AM No.507533609
>>507533295
>many waters(worshippers)
Another retard, this time its a jehovah witness cultist.
>waters
Means NATIONS. The great city dominates and is fed power by the worlds Nations.
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Anonymous ID: QgyPm8GTUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:20:03 AM No.507534175
>>507533585
you just listed a bunch of shit and provided a picture that has no proof of your shit list

TRY AGAIN
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Anonymous ID: /pntW76SUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:20:14 AM No.507534190
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Imagine subscribing to sand nigger cults based on stories of magic talking bushes.
Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:26:12 AM No.507534737
>>507533010
Listen, I know JWs are not allowed to read anything other than the cult approved opinions and interpretations, but Revelation explains the symbolism so we don't have to guess.

Revelation 13 introduces us to the beast from the sea. . It describes the beast from the sea as having seven heads and ten horns. These are well know metaphors for political power, not religious. The religious symbolism is a beast with two horns coming out of the land. It is that beast that causes the whole earth to WORSHIP the first beast.

Chapters 14 - 16 are the Lord Jesus and the angels pouring out God's wrath on those on earth who align with the Beast(s).

See >>507528985. and >>507529798. for an explanation of who the Bible defines these entities as, The Bible, not the Watchtower tract society or whatever.

Anyway, it is pretty clear who represents what, since Revelation 17:vs 9 - 18 tells us exactly who is who in this apocalyptic vision. The reason the whore sits on many waters is because God scattered the Jews throughout the earth. The beast from the sea is the political system and the Whore (Israel) has been riding that beast for almost 2,000 years. Think about it, what group of people have exerted power and control over the many empires of the earth? Was it the Ethiopians or Aztecs? No - It was the Jews. The RCC has little to do with this. The original harlot in Scripture was Israel. Simple as. I know it is hard to break the programming, but you need to read what the Scripture says is what, not what your literature tells you it mens. Again, Revelation defines "that great city" as spiritual Sodom and Egypt, the "place where our Lord (Jesus) was crucified." It says it plain as day. You are wrong.
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JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:30:01 AM No.507535045
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>>507533609
>Rev 17:15-15He said to me: “The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.

It's just generic universal mankind around the world. All the commoners. Although it says nations it includes people, crowds and tongues. Combined this just means all mankind commoners on earth.

>>507534175
Simple, none of that is in the Bible.
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Anonymous ID: YEBawJM8United States
6/16/2025, 2:30:31 AM No.507535087
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>>507524972 (OP)
hi. lmao.
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Anonymous ID: /pntW76SUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:32:48 AM No.507535272
>>507535087
DOOM
Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:33:22 AM No.507535328
>>507533295
>waters(worshippers)
according to the cult

However, Scripture defines the waters as: And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. (Rev 17:15). It does NOT say "worshippers".
It does say,: people (human beings)
multitudes ( a lot of them)
Nations (not religions). IN fact, the greek word ἔθνος or ethnos, is the same word we get our word ethnic from. It has nothing to do with religions.
tongues (many different languages since if there are many nations, it stands to reason)

You are flat out wrong and the Scripture is right.
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Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:34:30 AM No.507535436
>>507533585
The languages were not confused in Babylon. The languages were confused at Babel. Protip - those are not synonyms
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Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:36:02 AM No.507535572
>>507535045
see. >>507535328
Anonymous ID: NMn4Yh5nUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:39:54 AM No.507535866
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>>507524972 (OP)
Abdullah Hashem is the Antichrist or the Mahdi depending on if you're Christian or Muslim respectively. He will fulfill the prophecy described in the Book of Revelation, which is also described in the Quran but the Antichrist is the good guy.
JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:58:38 AM No.507537517
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>>507535328
>>507534737
The Whore of Babylon has to line up with the ORIGINAL Babylon in Mesopotamia. The original Babylon in Genesis and the prophets including Daniel. This is what we know about Ancient Babylon. >>507533295

Revelations is symbolically referring to the events of Nimrod, the Tower of Babel and the fall of Babylon by Cyrus the Great of the Medes and Persians. He drained the waters around the city protecting it and once the moat was dried up he conquered it.

So let's start with Nimrod. What did he do? He officially started the first false religion. Nimrod was the first "king" and false god of the ancient world right after the Flood. Nimrod was supposedly the grandson of Noah. He set himself up as a god and opposed Jehovah which is why he wanted to build the tower of Babel and prevent mankind from spreading to the earth. Nimrod even went as far as marry and impregnate his own mother to offend Jehovah even more. After Nimrod was couped his mother/wife needed a way to keep her power. So she told the people she was pregnant with Nimrod himself and he would be reincarnated again through the babe. Thus, reincarnation and Mother of God. The original three were Nimrod, Semiramis, and Tammuz. So all these beliefs>>507533585 came from this period of time.

The second significance is when Babylons waters were drained by Cyrus and was destroyed forever. >>507533295

The other big clue is this

>Revelation 18:23...and by your spiritistic practices all the nations were misled.

>Ezekiel 21:21-For the king of Babylon stops to use divination at the fork in the road,...

>Isaiah 47:9-In full measure they will come upon you Because of your many sorceries and all your powerful spells.

Babylon is associated with religion and sorcery. The Jews do not use sorcery to mislead the nations. They use money, banking, blackmail, political assassination, intelligence, academia, pornography, and the media. They don't use sorcery, religion and magic.
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Anonymous ID: 7Mmnxl9QUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:08:48 AM No.507538425
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>>507528833
Tophet
JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:09:01 AM No.507538446
>>507535436
Babel and Babylon are the same thing. We know this because Gen 10:9,10 says that Babel is located "in the land of Shiʹnar." That's where the Tigris and Euphrates rivers are located which would be dried up in the future by Cyrus to conquer Babylon.
Anonymous ID: 7Mmnxl9QUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:21:35 AM No.507539664
>>507529039
Babylon is those who follow the Babylonian Talmud (kikes). In Revelation 17 Babylon is a prostitute/whore.

> There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery:

babylon the great

the mother of prostitutes

and of the abominations of the earth.

6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

>Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. 18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”
Anonymous ID: 7Mmnxl9QUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:23:16 AM No.507539830
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>>507529798
This is correct. Thank you anon.
Anonymous ID: xC7NMZ0VUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:23:58 AM No.507539899
>>507528985
Fuckin hos lel
Anonymous ID: xC7NMZ0VUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:24:47 AM No.507539973
>>507529096
Ya güey jajaja
Anonymous ID: DAlPpux+United States
6/16/2025, 3:25:35 AM No.507540057
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>>507524972 (OP)
USA is Babylon, there's smaller ones, but USA is THE Babylon. I wait for the day when you find out who the actual Jews/Tribes are; boomers will have a stroke.
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Anonymous ID: 7Mmnxl9QUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:26:53 AM No.507540174
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>>507531445
Israel is far more degenerate than the US.
The US is actually only degenerate in the big cities.
Anonymous ID: 7Mmnxl9QUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:28:48 AM No.507540344
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Anonymous ID: 7Mmnxl9QUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:29:11 AM No.507540371
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Babylon
Anonymous ID: QgyPm8GTUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:31:10 AM No.507540546
>>507540057
got any proof or you just being a baby bitch?
Anonymous ID: 6CfN3WakUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:31:44 AM No.507540602
>>507524972 (OP)
Aw sweet! A schizo post!
Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:37:10 AM No.507541087
>>507537517
Nimrod is mentioned in Scripture, but Semiramis is not. Tammuz is nowhere recorded in Scripture as being the son of Nimrod. The Tammuz in the Bible is believed by the Sumerians to have been sired by Enki. I too have read Alexander Hyslop's Two Babylons. The problem is, the story you are telling is not in Scripture. I understand where you get the ideas from, but they are not supported by the Bible.

All that said, Rev 18:23 uses the greek word φαρμακείαor or pharmakeia. In Ancient Greek it can be a "spiritual practice and is, but not one associated with any form of Christianity. It is more what we would call "magic". The worship of the false gods the Jews worshipped, playing the whore, were all steeped in mysticism and the occult. Moses and Paul both said that to worship the pagan gods was the same thing as worshipping demons. The reason Israel is the modern day Whore of Babylon, is because she has led all the nations of the earth away from the Gospel and Christ. OT Israel rejected Yahweh, New Testament Jews rejected Christ and established Rabbinic Judaism, and modern Jews are still rejecting the New Covenant prophesied in the OT.

The Idea that Babylon is a continuation of Babel is also false. At Babel, God scattered the population there and confounded the languages. Yes, they are in the same geographic place, but there is no evidence of a continuation of the civilization. The Scri[ture literally says - Gen 11: 8 and 9. "So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."

The Bible says it explicitly, the left off (stopped) building the city. Given that it was probably a good place to build a city some group came along later and started building a city there.
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JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:39:51 AM No.507541320
>>507540057
USA is a country. It's a king

>Rev 18:9“And the kings of the earth who committed sexual immorality with her and lived with her in shameless luxury will weep and beat themselves in grief over her when they see the smoke from her burning.

It's one of the kings that has committed fornication with Babylon the Great. All countries on earth are kings. It's not a country, it's not a merchant. It's all organized religion on earth.
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Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:49:24 AM No.507542223
>>507541320
>It's not a country, it's not a merchant. It's all organized religion on earth.
Except the Bible says the exact opposite lol. Do you believe in the veracity of the Scripture or not? The Bible plainly tells us in Rev 17 what each thing represents. It explicitly says, "the woman is that great city". It doesn't say "a king", it says "With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication," Kings, as in more than one, plural. Wait, let me check the Greek - βασιλεύς Yup, plural in the Greek, Kings rule countries or kingdoms, not organized religions.

Here, check it out for yourself https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g935/kjv/tr/0-1/

I am beginning to believe JWs don't actually believe the Bible means what it says
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JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:50:53 AM No.507542339
>>507541087
>The reason Israel is the modern day Whore of Babylon, is because she has led all the nations of the earth away from the Gospel and Christ. OT

Not possible because The Whore of Babylon is said to use her sorcery to mislead nations.

>Revelation 18:23...and by your spiritistic practices all the nations were misled.

Jews do not use sorcery to mislead the nations. They use money, banking, blackmail, political assassination, intelligence, academia, pornography, and the media. They don't use sorcery, religion and magic. RELIGIONS use sorcery and magic. So it's not a country >>507541320
Because they are kings. Modern day Israel is a king. It's not "Da Joos"

>Rev 18:3For because of the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality, all the nations have fallen victim, and the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth became rich owing to the power of her shameless luxury.

>Rev 18:23-for your merchants were the top-ranking men of the earth, and by your spiritistic practices all the nations were misled.

>Rev 18:11-11“Also, the merchants of the earth are weeping and mourning over her, because there is no one to buy their full cargo anymore,

>Rev 18:15-15“The merchants who sold these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and will weep and mourn,

Modern day Israel is one of the kings who committed fornication with her. (((Da Joos))) are part of the merchants who sell to her.
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Anonymous ID: Xh6PnPtLUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:51:15 AM No.507542373
>>507524972 (OP)
There is nothing great about pisrael
Anonymous ID: 9laCZviKUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:53:45 AM No.507542600
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>>507524972 (OP)
Revelations was written by a psilocybin-addled schizo. Nevertheless, fuck Israel.
Anonymous ID: EjTvOJzQUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:54:14 AM No.507542651
>>507524972 (OP)
Now you're getting it. And Islam is the Beast system. Islam Jesus is the false prophet of Revelation. Practically word for word.
Anonymous ID: hgVB4Sn5United States
6/16/2025, 3:55:09 AM No.507542714
they still think it's a fucking joke.

good news
Anonymous ID: t+uW1o3XUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:59:02 AM No.507543084
>>507524972 (OP)
"Babylonian captivity;" "Babylonian Talmud," jews are pure evil... It all makes sense to me.
JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:59:41 AM No.507543143
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>>507542223
That's because that verse is referring to Babel and Babylon. >>507537517

It's where Babylon the Great is based on. The biggest indicator is the fact that she practices sorcery to mislead the nations. This is not a country. It is also not merchants, banks, nor industries>>507542339 because they sell to her. So it's not a country, king, empire. It's not a merchant nor industry. The only logical conclusion is that it's all organized religion on earth because it sits on many waters, other religions have killed "holy ones" thus drunk with the blood of holy ones. It practices sorcery and misleads the nations with sorcery. It lives in shameless luxury which it buys from the merchants of the earth. This is organized religion around the world. Modern day Israel is a king and "The Jews" are merchants .
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Anonymous ID: fbKYupsOUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:02:17 AM No.507543376
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>>507543143
>The only logical conclusion is that it's all organized religion on earth because it sits on many waters, other religions have killed "holy ones" thus drunk with the blood of holy ones. It practices sorcery and misleads the nations with sorcery. It lives in shameless luxury which it buys from the merchants of the earth
So Talmudic Judaism.
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Anonymous ID: KI4ovfJJUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:02:29 AM No.507543392
>>507531712
Imagine being this incel. Shit.
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Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:05:38 AM No.507543663
>>507543392
Imagine being this trooned. Shit.
JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:06:35 AM No.507543750
>>507543376
You're partially right. Pic related>>507530084
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6/16/2025, 4:07:10 AM No.507543793
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>>507542339
>Jews do not use sorcery to mislead the nations. They use money, banking, blackmail, political assassination, intelligence, academia, pornography, and the media. They don't use sorcery, religion and magic. RELIGIONS use sorcery and magic
Wrong. They very much use sorcery.
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Anonymous ID: 43F/0g70United States
6/16/2025, 4:07:24 AM No.507543817
>>507524972 (OP)
>REVELATION 18: ISRAEL IS BABYLON
Not even close. Bottom line: This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. Read this post...

https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1799553063390154856
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This planet is not Earth. It is Bozrah.

Earth is another planet about 75,000 light years from here, whereas this planet is merely an impostor planet that calls itself "Earth." Big difference. And trust me, I know how to count to 10 seconds, ACCURATELY. What used to be 10.00 seconds (for me) is now a whopping 15.00 seconds! If you don't believe me, see Matthew 24:22 and Revelation 8:12. For the natives, though, the speed of time here has always been the same.

If you are a Bozrah native, you are in serious trouble. The people of this planet must acknowledge that Bozrah is not Earth and that Jesus is coming to destroy it. Otherwise, don't expect God to save you.
============================

Note: The event in which Jesus destroys this planet is called "the day of vengeance." There is no 7-year Tribulation here.
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Anonymous ID: fbKYupsOUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:08:05 AM No.507543870
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>>507542339
>The Whore of Babylon is said to use her sorcery to mislead nations.
Anonymous ID: fbKYupsOUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:10:16 AM No.507544062
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>>507543817
Eat shit well poisoning kike. Your pilpul has no power here.
JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:12:40 AM No.507544266
>>507543793
I know exactly what your picture is. Although it's full of spiritistic practices it's actually primarily used as blackmail for politicians. We know this because the intelligence agencies use this to blackmail as well. The intelligence agencies are not religions.

The sorcery the Whore of Babylon uses is done in public in the open. It's done to mislead the average commoner. Not hidden on islands where only the elite are invited.
Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:14:39 AM No.507544424
>>507542339
>>507543143
You can deny the Scripture all you like. I have proven, from Scripture my points. The first and only whore mentioned in the Bible is Israel. Babylon is not a whore nor did Babylon play the Harlot - Babylon was never in a relationship with Yahweh to begin with. The ONLY physical nation on earth that had an exclusive covenant with Yahweh was Israel. In the OT, God called Israel a whore - since we know and we know the colors in Revelation line up with the colors in the OT Temple (except blue - don't worship other gods/be a whore) the only nation to fit this description is Israel.

Further, the Scripture says of this woman - Rev 18:24 "And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth." Which matches back to what Jesus told the Jews in Matthew's Gospel:

Matthew Chapter 23
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

According to the Lord Jesus, there is only ONE group of people guilty of "all the righteous blood shed upon the earth". It's not Gentiles in some sect of Christianity you disagree with doctrinally. The Scripture, the Bible you say you believe says it's the Jews or Israel.
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Anonymous ID: AvATXcN6United States
6/16/2025, 4:18:15 AM No.507544734
I wish Babylon was real. Im tired of pretending good things are worth it.
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Anonymous ID: UsoZhCS9United States
6/16/2025, 4:19:50 AM No.507544884
>>507541087
>>507542223
You’re on point, anon. Keep cooking.
JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:20:39 AM No.507544952
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>>507544424
>In the OT, God called Israel a whore - since we know and we know the colors in Revelation

You're right. Why? Because Israel committed Apostasy. It started worshipping other gods. In the Bible, prostitution and adultery can also be spiritual. That's why Babylon the Great is a whore. She commits spiritual prostitution because she's is all false religion and the kings of the earth fornicate with her Pic related.
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Anonymous ID: 9idTE1LGUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:22:24 AM No.507545113
>>507544734
The Whore of Babylon is real. She is modern women. Also, Abbadon is real, and it will be joining us in this world shortly. Enjoy the 5th Woe.
Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:37:32 AM No.507546512
>>507544952
Yes indeed. In order to be a whore or play the harlot spiritually, one must FIRST be in a relationship with Yahweh. That was Israel in the OT. The only genuine covenant left between man and God is the New Covenant. Modern day Israel is still rejecting Yahweh and playing the whore since they reject the New Covenant. The Beast the Harlot is riding on is clearly political, comprised of many nations - why? Because the plain language of the Scripture says so. Full stop. if you reject that, then you are reject what the Bible literally says.

Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. The Scripture literally tells you who is who. It SAYS it is telling you who is who.

The Beast the whore is riding on-
Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
15: And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

So the beast, rising out of the water has seven heads and ten horns. The horns are ten kings. Kings rule kingdoms, not churches. These are political leaders.
Then it says the whore is sitting on the many waters this beast with seven heads and ten horns comes from. So far, nothing religious or spiritual about the kings, the waters or the beast.

So who is the whore?

Rev 17:18. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
The woman is a great city. What great city? Rev 11: 8. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jesus was crucified in JERUSALEM. Who controls Jerusalem?
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6/16/2025, 4:51:56 AM No.507547810
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Anonymous ID: fbKYupsOUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:52:33 AM No.507547855
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6/16/2025, 4:52:56 AM No.507547889
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JW on /pol/ ID: LvXxTTFTUnited States
6/16/2025, 4:53:06 AM No.507547905
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>>507546512
>Jesus was crucified in JERUSALEM. Who controls Jerusalem?

Jerusalem doesn't exist anymore. It was destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans. Pic related. Pic related. Jerusalem was associated with the center of worship at the time. The temple. The temple is gone to this day. Without the temple there is no Jerusalem. That's what made Jerusalem so significant back then. It was the temple. When Cyrus gave the Jews permission to rebuild Jerusalem guess what is the first thing they rebuilt? The temple walls.

There is no Jerusalem of old today. Only a Jerusalem in name only.
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Anonymous ID: Ylscha4cUnited States
6/16/2025, 5:03:46 AM No.507548808
>>507547905
Wait, so you are claiming that the ancient Babel where your story of Nimrod etc is the same thing, as Babylon but the same Jerusalem, that was rebuilt on the exact same spot, where the same apostate Jews live now is not Jerusalem? When John wrote Revelation, in the 90's AD, Jerusalem was already destroyed. The location is exactly the same, with Jews living there throughout history up until now. What's telling is Israel (the whore she is) has once again become a nation and is occupying Jerusalem. Israel was scattered among the many nations (waters) and has now returned to Jerusalem. Thing is, according to Scripture, she is about to be burned with fire (again).

Here is a point so many miss both preterists and dispensationalists - Daniel etc was for the Jews - Revelation is for the Church. What happened in 70 AD is going to happen again. Pretty obvious. I have to go to bed, but I think you need to stop regurgitating the watchtower and start just believing what the Bible says. It means what it says. If Jerusalem isn't Jerusalem, then nothing we are discussing matters at all since Revelation CLEARLY says Jerusalem is going to matter in the end.

Start believing what the Scripture says, not what you have been told it says.