Implications that life itself is not natural - /pol/ (#507536134) [Archived: 1137 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:42:50 AM No.507536134
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Think about it. It was something that was known to ancients as being supernatural, since consciousness acts independently of external stimuli, but due to sciences, had it normalized into believing that it was a natural process. A mind can think, process information, and act upon its own will, and as such, would routinely violate the laws of physics unless if a force greater than the strength of the body itself would force it to react to it (for instance, gravity pulling people down, which is natural, but jumping upon its own will, which is unnatural). Something that has to be normalized, isn't normal. It was to the point where, for instance, Marquis De Condorcet, a staunch atheist, believed that life itself was materialistic, and attempted to "prove" and "perfect" what he called "social laws" mathematically, believing that laws themselves are natural, even though laws are a construct of consciousness, and differs between animals (which may explain instinct). Consciousness, rights, and policy are all immaterial and unnatural, which would make them abstract ideas. Ideas themselves are abstract, and therefore cannot be material, but can instead by applied to other materialistic things. An idea cannot be conjured up by an inanimate object (artificial intelligence for instance, is just artificial and uses computations of binary numbers, just like other computers or robots, in order to analyze data to come up with a response to make it have the illusion of thinking or doing tasks, themselves abstracted and meaningless without interpretation, itself an abstraction).

What does this mean? It is empirical evidence suggested that the Universe has a Creator, and deals a blow to Leftist ideologies. For instance, human life cannot procreate without two separate bodies of having separate organs, even though it would not have any other logic for separate beings to have different organs for that, thus making homosexuality aberrant and illogical behavior which is an an abomination.
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Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:43:03 AM No.507536150
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>>507536134 (OP)
Now how would this pertain to politics and political discourse? Leftism as a whole is based entirely on the belief that everything is blatantly materialistic. Communist and socialist governments had state atheism for that very reason, due to them not believing in a higher power, and that their subjects, which they call "workers" were expendable, with power being their own ulterior motive. Power is not a material construct, but rather an abstraction of an idea that regards behavior and consequences to those who would attempt to resist it, in a hierarchical manner, which is also why they collectively murdered over 150 million people within the span of a century. Their only imitative was that there was no "morality" unless legalized. This is the dogma of today's Leftists who believe that rights could come from government instead of individual consciousness, which is why they believe that morality is something that is legalized, therefore material. The term "law" is no mistake or coincidence, as it was the driving principle between attempting to conflate natural systems with human created rules and restrictions regarding what they can do, and any consequences for its transgression.

By removing the normalization of life being natural, but instead it being supernatural as the ancients realized, that would overturn Leftist academic dogma and propaganda, rendering them useless in attempting to rationalize and normalize degenerate actions, thoughts, and behaviors. By removing life from materialism and understanding that it violates the laws of physics, is an empirical proof that the Universe isn't natural itself, but a construct by a higher being (God).
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Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:50:04 AM No.507536774
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>>507536150
Also, I fed the idea that life violates the laws of physics into Gab AI, and it came up with this:
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Anonymous ID: 29bl0hK3Germany
6/16/2025, 2:57:22 AM No.507537408
>>507536134 (OP)
Life is natural tho, the entire universe is a living organism and it creates life everywhere not just here on earth because the process to make it is present everywhere.
people like to believe life is very special and to them it is but to the universe its something totally normal.
also no there is no God that watches you or micromanages your life or gives a shit about it in any way.
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Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 2:58:57 AM No.507537543
>>507537408
Nope. All attempts to look for life elsewhere have all ended in failure, and cope that it would be discovered.

This is the fallacy of the mediocrity principle, due to the fact that since Earth has life, it must be found elsewhere.
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Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:00:30 AM No.507537687
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>>507536774
Also, expanding on this:

Remove life and consciousness from materialism, disprove Leftist agendas, since Leftism can only fundamentally work in a purely materialistic manner.
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Anonymous ID: 29bl0hK3Germany
6/16/2025, 3:03:46 AM No.507537937
>>507537543
>All attempts to look for life
arent technologically advanced enough to find it, the distances between stars are so massive most people cant even imagine them and dont even really know where to look.
but life exists everywhere because the process to make it is present everywhere this was proven when amino acids were discovered on comets, the interesting part of comets is that they are exposed to electric forces as they travel from low voltage places to high voltages places in space. thats what creates their tails, its an electric phenomenon and it is electricity that creates life.
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Anonymous ID: 29bl0hK3Germany
6/16/2025, 3:07:10 AM No.507538260
>>507537687
politics only exist because the Earth is a limited space with limited resources.
there are already way more people than what the earth can support so humans have to come up with systems to divide these limited resources among them.
fundamentally capitalism and communism and everything else are the same thing, a greedy jew council sits at the top and decides who gets what while they distract people with psyops, identity politics, wars etc. so its merely an illusion.
Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:07:18 AM No.507538270
>>507537937
It all started with Mars, due to a misinterpretation of a poorly drawn Italian map of the planet, and Venus due to it having clouds, and a similar mass as Earth, and also belief that it existed on the Moon (which was proven to be sterile after the first few Apollo missions failed to bring back a single extraterrestrial microbe, and thus not necessitating quarantines after returning to Earth).

Then they kept moving the goalposts. When they find nothing on Europa, Titan, or Enceladus, they will shift focus to the frozen ices of Triton, Pluto, and Charon, and so on.
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Anonymous ID: 29bl0hK3Germany
6/16/2025, 3:11:45 AM No.507538721
>>507538270
>When they find nothing
assuming they would even tell you they found something.
its not really in anyones interest that you know what really goes on. if you keep thinking the way you do its easier to control you with the fake religions.
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Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:14:12 AM No.507538958
>>507538721
I can give you a hint why there's no extra-terrestrial life visiting Earth at all.

It's what you used to type that post. Everyone and their grandma has one. And guess what it has? A camera.

There would have been millions of genuine photos or videos of alien life on Earth floating around the internet, to the point where entire governments would be futile to suppress it, ever since 2008.
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Anonymous ID: 29bl0hK3Germany
6/16/2025, 3:16:46 AM No.507539224
>>507538958
>there's no extra-terrestrial life visiting Earth at all
never claimed they do.
to find life elsewhere your shitty phone camera made in india is not enough.
you need a multi trillion dollar telescope in space that is technologically more advanced than what exists today and even then its questionable if that would be enough because as already mentioned the distances involved are very very big.
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Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:18:28 AM No.507539366
>>507539224
It's funny how atheists all claim that God doesn't exist, but believe in extra-terrestrial life, all because it is here on Earth, but them not realizing that consciousness, or the very fundamentals of life itself violates the laws of physics.
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Anonymous ID: 29bl0hK3Germany
6/16/2025, 3:21:05 AM No.507539614
>>507539366
>that God doesn't exist
never claimed that there is no God, learn to read.
>all because it is here on Earth
if the process to make life exists here it exists everywhere else. its very simple logic.
>consciousness, or the very fundamentals of life itself violates the laws of physics
not really but of course you think that way because you still subscribe to outdated ideas.
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Anonymous ID: J8Qtq+rdUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:22:35 AM No.507539760
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>>507536134 (OP)
>What does this mean?
the first paragraph is ok till that
there is no creator, there are probably creators trapped in the derivative or exponent dimensions that influence can only pass through particle physics
life is not natural true, it requires a special configuration involving saturns core
Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:23:00 AM No.507539801
>>507539614
I never implied that you were an atheist. I meant atheists in general.

Also, even IF extraterrestrial life was suppressed by governments, it would leak out like water from a faucet. It would be impossible to fully cover up.
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Anonymous ID: 29bl0hK3Germany
6/16/2025, 3:27:36 AM No.507540241
>>507539801
>It would be impossible to fully cover up.
not really
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Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:29:09 AM No.507540366
>>507540241
Yes it would. The difference between conspiracy theory and fact is about 6 months.

Of course, parody ones such as "reptilians" and other nonsense is deliberately designed by the CIA in order to discredit conspiracy theorists. As a joke.
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Anonymous ID: 29bl0hK3Germany
6/16/2025, 3:31:57 AM No.507540621
>>507540366
all they have to do is just brand you as a lunatic schizo while the media shills some other narrative.
as long as 51% of society believe what the jewish media says the rest will fall in line like dominos and they will literally believe anything.
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Anonymous ID: Z4I0FEGMUnited States
6/16/2025, 3:34:47 AM No.507540886
>>507540621
Conspiracy theories in politics are like rumors of the video game industry.

They all turn out to be real.