Do people really disappear in national parks mysteriously and without a trace or is this guy a snake oil salesman?

Once in a while, but I assume he has some schizo theory like they're getting abducted by ayyys and not that they simply fell in a ditch and died

Wendigos do hunt and eat people

>>507587172 (OP)
My nigger, the guy has literally a channel on kiketube, he post daily with new cases that he never published before. I seen hundreds of those and is kind of fucked if you ask me.
Is obvious not just one type of event that cause it, but most likely ayyys are the culprit.
Is just not globohomo, doing for their epistein islands and places, there's much people and most are not even young so you can risk that reason.
In fact you get all type of people disappearing, including many physicists.
But is not all the same, some events are different from others, there's patterns but they are not everywhere. There's probably different type of non-human/human groups doing for whatever reason.
In some cases is as crazy as someone walking straight into another dimension.

>>507587172 (OP)
Im sure some people do. Most people are completely idiots, the only reason they exist is because entire countries exist to babysit them

>>507587610
>he post daily with new cases
sure, but I want to know if he is manipulating the information or if he is being 100% genuine

>"Do not wander off-trail."
>wander off-trail
wooowwwwwwww

>>507587367
Not such. Cases are when they leaves the trails. Most parks are too rough for agriculture so they made them into parks. Sometimes I wonder about the numbers of really clever squatters living in remote caves. 10-20 at least.

>>507587707
Considering most parks was made because the land are unsuited for agriculture.

in North America? Yes. Theres massive tracts of wilderness where people just fucking vanish. A lot fewer now with mobile phones and GPS tracking but it can still happen.

Now we talking. Need a crypto thread

>>507587702
there's cases that are old so the police/national park doesn't have any file anything in fact they usually don't hold on this type of information and he or even you need to pay up to a million trumps or more to get this data.
They don't archive anything and depend on the memory (kek) of the park rangers.
there's a few other channels that for a few years try to talk about these 411 cases, and in some cases there's a divergence in terms of results on their investigation but it depend on the source more often than not but he doesn't embellish or change what is know or the families involve would already call him out on the comments, never seeing that happen.
In fact even the other people talking about 411, there was a younger youtuber, graduate in history or whatever he start doing these, I think the case that diverge a little was about a river-valley in canada where people die by decapitation, I don't recall if is still happening but it did back in the day.
Some crazy story, btw.

>>507587367
Then you'd be wrong and you're a massive dumb ass for making such an ignorant post

>>507587172 (OP)
Dudes a scam artist. If you ever watch his streams and look at how he talks about his stupid dog. Con man, goof ball. He manipulates old ladies. He likes to manipulate and tell scary stories to older women. He sells his books for 655.99 plus tax to old women who lack any discernment but love to gape their jowels at a good mystery, helps with menopause and loneliness.

Note, While waiting for the captcha, I noticed that Brazilians, too, are quite enthralled. South American youngsters and older, lonely women, that's his set.

>>507590144
>He sells his books for 655.99 plus tax
no you faggot hindu, he doesnt. thats amazons price for 2nd hand copies for inbreds like you.

>>507587172 (OP)
Typical Jew, using people's personal tragedies to hawk shitty books and movies about Bigfoot and UFOs.

Yes. The curated portions give a false sense of safety. People wonder off designated paths without proper provisions and very quickly get lost. By the time people realize you are missing you've already died and been consumed 100%. Whatever little bit that may be left over gets drug into some nocturnal animal's den.

>>507590285
D'awww and he has a nice doggie too! Did you gear the one about the boys down at gippers gulch in '83, Ethel? They say the boy walked six miles in one minute!!! How does a Lil boy do that! Why when I was six I ain't walking up no mountain side!

>>507587172 (OP)


looks like the kind of fucker that would disappear people in a park LMAO

>>507587172 (OP)
>In my research we found that in national parks people generally disappear near rocky hillsides, by mountains, near treelines, around lakes, before or after storms, near rivers, during the day or night, often while hiking alone
The dude it a complete hack.

>>507587367
Actually he remains quite pragmatic in his diagnoses. He refrains from wild speculation and sticks to the facts. He's an ex cop. They always do that.

>>507591468
He just took a bunch of interesting disappearances and suggested they might be connected without offering any kind of theory or explanation.
He is a grifter. He interviews the families and profits off it them. The families are desperate for any kind of renewed interest so his grift is very easy to keep going.

>>507587172 (OP)
The most reasonable explanation I heard was that it's cougars or mountain lions.
>Virtually silent predator
>Stealthy
>Moves incredibly fast
>Always goes for the throat so victim doesn't scream
>can climb vertically up a sheer rock wall

People often forget that when you go into the wilderness, you're now part of the food chain. It doesn't help that virtually everything a camper or hiker does attracts attention to himself and they often carry aromatic food.

>>507587465
They are just angry because I do that to them

>>507592367
Some of the stories are interesting.
A guy was hunting with his family and he went missing gun and all IIRC. He was old and they were doing that thing where a few men form a rough line and wait for other people to run deer into the line. Being old his position was near the truck. Most of the disappearances probably have very normal explanations like you say

>>507587172 (OP)
forestjews / goblins.

>>507587172 (OP)
>Is obvious not just one type of event that cause it, but most likely ayyys are the culprit.
Moron, shill or just braindead goyim cattle, makes no difference either way.

"Shasta was the largest, covert mind-control slave camp of which I am aware. Hidden in the wooded hills, military fencing corrals an enormous fleet of unmarked, black helicopters and more mind-controlled, military robots than I saw in all of Haiti. This covert military operation served its own agenda, not America's. I was told and overheard that it was a base for the future Multi-Jurisdictional Police Force; for enforcing order and law in the New World Order. In the center of the high security compound, was another well-guarded military-fenced area that was regarded as a 'Camp David' of sorts for those running our country. George Bush and Dick Cheney shared an office there, and claimed the outer perimeter woods as their own hunting ground where they played 'A Most Dangerous Game'."
-Cathy O'Brien
http://www.whale.to/b/obrien_b1.html

"Underground facilities around this huge mountain in the Lake Shasta area are putting out Monarch programming that makes the people think they are in communication with aliens. This facility is for torturing & reprogramming captured runaway Monarch slaves. People are brought into the area via helicopter, plane, or flying saucer. This site is probably the largest mind-control programming center. It is in a remote wooded area. It is heavily guarded, has fences, and a large contingent of black helicopters. Mt. Shasta is equipped with state of the art high tech programming equipment. Mind-controlled slaves who are soldiers are programmed and trained at the Mt. Shasta facility."
-Fritz Springmeier/Cisco Wheeler
http://whale.to/b/sp/for1.html

I always just figured it was clickbait and completely made up. He was a park ranger so I imagine he heard campfire stories and just added stuff to those to make them more interesting.

Aliens and others kidnap them.

Bigfoot is an alien race. Can turn invisible. Some kidnappers are Us military

>>507592367
I could heem that little pussy cat. Heem that nigger stuff. Then I'll eat him in front of his family, then I'll heem his family and eat them too in front of other bitch nigger cats. I'll eat the whole forest. I am. American.

>>507587172 (OP)
>Do people really disappear in national parks mysteriously and without a trace or is this guy a snake oil salesman?
Nature is extremely dangerous, and you're in an area that's way bigger than the majority of people really understand. People get lost, trip and fall, get heatstroke, or get preyed on by the larger wildlife frequently. Sometimes people go out there to go kill themselves too.

It's not that magical.
t. grew up in Appalachia

Subversive Jews and deep state federal agents working in tandem to disappear white people.

A young lad from my village went missing over in an American national park, Big Dave was in touch with the family here and they blew him off, I told the mom about Dave Paulides and she freaked out

Some people simply don't want to know the truth, they just want thoughts and prayers

He's not a conman, people do go missing in these parks all the time and these are pretty fascinating stories. Like watching one of those documentaries I thought it was clear that the parents/grandparents whatever of that one kid were the ones behind it. The 80 year old man disappearing without a trace hunting was pretty weird too. Them being connected because aliens or paranormal probably not but you have to draw an audience in and when there are literally no answers people will speculate crazy things. I mostly think people vastly underrate how wild the wilderness actually is.

>>507587172 (OP)
>Do people really disappear in national parks mysteriously and without a trace or is this guy a snake oil salesman?

it's both.

paulides acts like a butthurt faggot about a lot of shit. He started it because he was a bigfoot faggot. His cases have strange patterns of people showing up in places that were already searched.

>>507590144
I like a good mystery, too. Why don't you like mysteries?

>>507587172 (OP)
stupid go in the wildreness, unprepared, do something stupid and get hurt, can't make it back or encounter dangerous animal, didn't bring any protection because they stupid, get eaten

>>507587702
People have finally caught on and gathered info on the cases he spotlights. He distorts and ignores data to make it more spooky. He lost his job as a cop because he was using it to get celebrity autographs. Another bit of data he ignores for some reason

>>507587172 (OP)
earth has protective elementals, and they are sus of man

>>507587172 (OP)
so the thing is, animals live in the forests and animals along with insects will eat things. some even eat dead things. including people. and when they do that theyre just you know. gone because animals ate them
but no im sure its aliens or shadow MIB government people taking them or something

>>507587367

Counter intelligence smear post. To be fair, he shouldn't mention big foot ever again and it's probably why the death threats at big foot conventions he used to get scared him away from the big foot community.

Not joking either the dude stopped going go Bigfoot conventions because of death threats. Should've kept it to himself...

His national park disappearance work is solid though. The kid that got abducted who's skull cap was found was a blatant murder. His skull is some rich assholes coffee mug somewhere.

Worth watching but I turn it off for a few more months when the Bigfoot shit starts.

>>507594796
The entrances of hollow Earth just happen to overlap with disappearance clusters. And most of the missing are Germanic males.

>>507591004
SAAAAR YOUR SHIF OF DIM HADANS IS TIMED MOST CERTAINLY!!

>>507587172 (OP)
>people really disappear in national parks mysteriously and without a trace
It is quite possible to get lost in pic related and they'll never find your body because nature will grow over it with time.

There are plenty of reasons why someone would be never seen again after a trip to a forest or mountain and never be seen again that don't involve paranormal explanations. I know it isn't as exciting but most cases aren't that exciting but rather mundane.

>>507594231
This, I grew up in the Carpathians and those puperino looking wolf's and bears will tear you in minutes up and eat you within 20 mins, the rest is for the necrophags to feast. Now imagine America where you have grizzlys , wolfs , pumas, bobcats and others. People who grew up in cities and think they can best nature are fucking stupid as hell and should be left to Darwin themselves in the wild

>>507599348
It's probably big cats and accidental falls that accounts for most of it but it is way more fun to think that the cave troglodytes from The Descent are snatching people and eating them.

>>507587172 (OP)
alaska goes dark for a month
people disappear

One of the missing 411 cases was on a farm I drive past to go to work every day. Kid was out with his family working to help clear a paddock of scrub. Suddenly he was gone. Massive search ensued, never seen again. No trace of that kid has been found since.
Pic unrelated, probably

>>507592746
I think even the Bigfoot explanation is plausible, albeit minus the supernatural stuff. Gorillas were considered mythical animals until circa 1865. Mostly every continent has some large ape, so why not North America? Every animal evolves with some special skill. What if this ape evolved to hide? Maybe it looks like a tree, so you could be standing right next to it and not notice it's there. Maybe it can turn into a patch of grass and let you walk over it without reacting.

>>507587172 (OP)
I'd believe there being an unconnected circle of serial killers who trawl State Parks and other remote areas for ez kills before I'd believe his harebrained ideas of interdimensional bigfoots grabbing people up and folding their clothes

>10s of millions of people visit the National Parks every year.
>Over the course of decades, a handful go missing under somewhat mysterious looking circumstances (if you take all eyewitness accounts at face value).
AHHHH, FUCK NATURE! I'M GOING INSANE! SAVE ME URBAN SPRAWL!

>>507600684
There's 100% dozens, possibly hundreds of serial killers doing exactly that. They're careful not to give that shit publicity anymore because of all the copycats it was creating.
Still doesn't explain some of the truly strange disappearances though. There's an obvious extraterrestrial involvement when you really bury yourself in the topic.

There's a cluster near where I live of strange disappearances, 1st guy was in his late 70's parked by a popular rec site to walk his dog and was never found, only his little dog was found.
2nd guy ran out of gas on top of nearby mountain and tried to walk home, never found
3rd case guy's van found running at side of highway, they find his body weeks later on the other side of a mountain and across a river, no foul play suspected.

>>507587610
Take your meds, João.
It's just retards not realizing US national parks aren't a joke, and need to be taken seriously if you're going to visit.
German tourists in particular are notorious for needing to be rescued from their own stupidity.

snake oil

4th case a woman driving the highway takes a turn onto logging roads for no reason and ends up in the ditch, searchers find her wandering in a daze in the forest 5 miles away, she snaps out of her trance when found with no memory.
case 5 guy goes missing walking along road at a nearby festival, broad daylight, never found.

>>507587172 (OP)
>Do people really disappear in national parks mysteriously and without a trace or is this guy a snake oil salesman?

He is only showcasing cases of "connected" people. "Connected" as in them having close relatives and people who miss them and search for them. The number of nonconnected people missing is enormous.

>>507601834
Or how about the with the toddler going missing with his family immediately there with him. He's among them on a trail, then gone in a second. They searched for at least most of a day (or more) and finally found him in a place where many searchers had thoroughly searched and it was close to a main trail that numerous searchers had been through and near. He was in perfect shape too.

>>507601933
It's notable that faking your own death in America is not illegal as long as you weren't trying to make any financial gain off of it.

Someone please post the overlay maps of missing persons & limestone caves.
Also: "never camp on a glacier".

>>507602191
Kids are small and easy to lose and also tremendously stupid.

This subject brings out a lot of shills very rapidly for some reason. Whether or not they're paid I'm not sure.
I think it's probably an organic response to the thought that we are being predated upon by something we can't comprehend.

Back in the 70's a guy I knew was camping with his friend on a remote beach, his friend starts getting weird saying "they are coming for him" he wanders off into the night through the forest to a nearby smaller beach. Buddy freaks out and follows him with flashlight, the guy is walking in a circle round and round. So the guy I knew goes to get the speedboat to come grab him and when he gets there the guy is gone. He said his footprints in the sand never left the circle. There was a missing person case filed and an investigation as well.

>>507588095
>A lot fewer now with mobile phones and GPS tracking but it can still happen.

I read an account of a guy whose dog got abducted, it had a logging gps tracker in its collar. He was out walking in a national park with his dog, dog fell behind a bit, didnt come when he called it, then somewhat later the dog came running. He checked the gps log, something took the dog up to the top of a nearby mountain across intraversable terrain, then took it down again and released it so it could run back to its master.

Another case was a guy walking his two dogs in a national park along a mountainous trail, one dog fell off the trail edge and landed on a ledge ten feet below. It was not possible to climb down to the dog and the dog could not climb up, so the guy decides to go back to his car and get a rope. After he has walked a few hundred meters the lost dog comes running. Something rescued the dog once he left.

>>507591468
>He's an ex cop.
Yeah, old women will eat up anything he says.

>>507602416
Your IQ is lower than their height.

>>507588835
>I think the case that diverge a little was about a river-valley in canada where people die by decapitation, I don't recall if is still happening but it did back in the day.

That river was in the northwest of canada in an area that was and is basically unpopulated.

>>507602191
A 7 year old vanished in Tofino as well a few years back, he was with his family near the ocean and then he wasn't.

>>507590144
I got like all dozen of his books for less than 100 dollars from his website. Indians really should be ethno-banned from the Internet

>>507587702
>100% genuine
ngmi

There is no where else in this surveillance state where one can GO MISSING. This grift will go the way of UFO's (killed by everyone having a phone camera) once they get wired with infrared or some other gay shit.

I'm going to tell you something /pol/ and you can believe it or not, most people don't so I'm used to it. I'll try to make it short because it's a long story.
When I was a teenager I lived next to a lady that had goats and chickens. I would wait until my parents would go to bed then go on the front porch and smoke weed some nights, if I had it. So one night I went out to smoke and I noticed there was this foul smell, like a rotting corpse crossed with a skunk. It wasn't like anything I had smelled before and I had lived next to those animals for quite a while. I looked around for a minute thinking that something had crawled under the porch and died, couldn't find anything, so I sat down and started to pack my bowl and as soon as I sat down the goats started going wild, practically screaming. I jumped up and ran down the stairs to see what was going on and standing in the goat pen was this huge figure of what looked like a man crossed with an ape and it had a pointed, long head. It was at least 9ft tall. I froze, wondering what the fuck I was looking at, when it turned around and looked dead at me and the light from my porch reflected off of its eyes making them glow bright red. It just sat there for a minute then jumped over the fence (practically stepped over it really) and ran off. None of the goats were harmed but I think the case would've been different if I hadn't of went out there. I still think about it all the time, and sometimes have dreams about it.
Im not going to say that all the disappearances are paranormal, but there's things in the woods that you don't want to run into.

>>507603026
It was called headless valley, Nahanni National Park Reserve, mysterious place. They don't let people in without permits to go down the river. And it costs thousands.

>>507603264
Do you live in the Southeast United States around the Florida Panhandle? What you saw matches the description of an animal that people see in that area all the time called a Skunk Ape.

>>507603264
Can confirm there are spookums

>>507603632
they stink in the PNW as well

>>507603632
Yes. I live in southern Georgia, not far from Savannah.

>>507594914
Paulides' work has been largely contradicted by investigators who ultimately find pretty standard solutions to the various cases he covers.
However, I think he started with a really cool idea and developed it nicely. He wasn't grifting, and I'm not sure that he is grifting now either. However, he doesn't like having his work checked.
The Missing Enigma on youtube has done a few of his cases and it becomes pretty clear that the mystery is often solved quite easily.
That said, I still think his stuff is fascinating. Picking apart individual cases isn't very fair to his overall purpose - But at the same time, if the cases don't stand up to scrutiny, neither does his larger premise, you know?
I'll still always like the guy. And his documentaries are kino.

>>507603264
Sounds like a classic Bigfoot sighting.

>>507602191
He was hiding and the searchers couldn't hear the giggling coming from the bushes. They got clowned by a toddler.

>>507587172 (OP)
>>507587367
>>507587465
>>507587610
>>507587658
>>507587702
snake oil salesman. he commonly omits relevant details and uses other methods to help create mystery. there are serial killers and weirdos killing people sure, but they do the same in urban settings. if anything is hunting humans in the woods it would be these fellas that most people think were tree loving hippies or something. no one has ever reported bigfoots using spears so i seriously doubt any of these guys are still around.

>>507588095
>>507587972
>>507587172 (OP)

>>507592746
>Being old his position was near the truck.

Thats nothing. There is a missing 411 case where a negro that was part of a highway crew picking litter got disapperared while he was walking in line with the other guys in the crew along the side of the road. He was the last guy in the line and later they determined that he had gotten plucked by something that flipped him upside down while it flew away with him. They found some pocket money and one of his boots in a nearby field. Nobody heard him getting taken. He just disappeared forever.

This was undoubtly the work of what the irish call a "sluagh". Interestingly the irish legends claim that this creature came from the direction of the setting sun, that is, it came from the direction of America. I have read another account of a couple of americans encountering a sluagh at an abandoned farmhouse. It was as it was described in the irish legends, like a flock of invisible birds, and it was very heavy, forcing a tree to bend over so its leaves almost touched the ground. Sluagh encounters are very rare, probably because they are very lethal.

>>507603238
UFO sightings are more frequent than ever, and hundreds of people film them. Your own military even released some of them a little while ago. Of course you'll look at a video of a dot against the sky and tell everybody "it could be anything" because you're smart and know everything.

>>507600308
It is so ridiculously easy to get lost in NZ you could probably get lost in fact walking in a straight line in a paddock.
The terrain in mountainous areas, especially central/east north island and west south island are basically giant voids that lack civilization, reception and any tame nature whatsoever.

Shit I remember nearly falling off a cliff misstepping on a trail on a slightly wet day, and that was one 10 mins out from the city centre.

then you have the countless vanishings that go on at the beaches, old burial grounds, 'tapu' places. old shitty new Zealand has always been rather ominous feeling to me.

>>507603264
A friend of mine had a similar experience as a child with what he called a gnome. It was getting dark and he heard a disturbance out by the chicken coop so he went out to check on them. When he opened it up he saw several little men standing in the coop. They were bald and had giant black eyes, like how gray aliens are depicted in media. He said he lost control of his body and went to sleep right there. He woke up in the chicken coop holding a chicken egg. He told me about this in highschool and was deadly serious about it. I could tell how shook up he was just remembering it.

A less dramatic story i heard from my brother was when he saw one of the black triangle UFOs. My brother is a hunter and was out in the deep backcountry with two others. One of the hunters pointed up at the sky and said whats that? They used what magnification they had with scopes and binoculars to look at it and it was just a black triangle hovering in the sky in broad daylight. Not moving at all. My brother said they watched it for about 15 minutes just sitting there before they put it out of mind and went back to hunting. My brother is a hyper normie who doesn't believe in anything the tv doesn't tell him, so i believe his story.

>>507587707
in one of the stories the dudes boots were found in a spot they had searched multiple times. and then he was found some distance away that would involve walking on some serious rocks. youd have to be high on meth to pull it off. oh and was found dead within sight line of someones house.

>>507599922
Big cats can sneak up on you pretty easily, people worry about bears but the cats are more sneaky. Also snakes are another concern, venom can do someone in before they can make it back to civilization.

some of the stories are 'normal stuff' like, probably killed by boyfriend or just bad luck.

others are really weird. kid is in the park playing. goes into a bush, never comes out. just gone

saw one last night where this lady in her 60s ended up way over a mountain ridge that you'd think would be nearly impossible for her to climb.

>>507600396
>What if this ape evolved to hide? Maybe it looks like a tree, so you could be standing right next to it and not notice it's there. Maybe it can turn into a patch of grass and let you walk over it without reacting.

Funny that you mention it, according to amerindian legends, bigfoot can turn himself into looking like an 8 foot tall tree stump.

>>507603238
>surveillance state
surveillance is closer to criminal activity than actual security
Romanians are notorious spies and outlaws at the same time, with an infamous track record of "collecting filth" way above your 5 eyes agency, and it's more into the "filth" stuff that can only be used for blackmail, rather than "security stuff"
so, they end up having large scale accidents where they burn up in hospitals, clubs like Collectiv and other incidents that technically speaking, just given the sheer number of agents, would just be impossible if any of them were actually "securing" anything
if you're not important or ugly then you probably could just get away with lots and lots of stuff without ever being in the spotlight
but you're never in any way safe due to "surveillance", it's just spying...
>t. living in ex-soviet shithole surveillance and police state Romania

>>507604089
You probably believe that too.

>>507603238
>This grift will go the way of UFO's (killed by everyone having a phone camera) once they get wired with infrared or some other gay shit.

There are more photos than ever of orbs and ufos. But they are not taken by cell phone cameras, they are taken by automatic survelliance cameras, with far better optics.

I've seen "things" in the woods too. It doesn't even need to be deep woods sometimes.

>>507605091
It's incredible. These things have to be extremely intelligent to remain as elusive as they are even as technology advances.

>>507596051
>b...but nothing in nature can hurt you
Direct quote from, dare I say it, a Californian.

>>507587172 (OP)
He's very sloppy with his "research"
Lore Lodge and Missing Enigma often point it out

>>507602658
Sauce on the dog with the gps collar? That position track could tell us a lot about what carried him off.

>>507605062
There's a lot of deeply unsettling places around NZ to be sure. The majority of people here have absolutely no idea how much fucked up shit had to happen for them to have suburbs to sell to indians.
That kid who went missing was just outside of Pokeno, not exactly tomo country, but it is somewhere that settlers found stacks of human remains. They were everywhere up there, neatly arranged piles of human bones 6-8 feet high. There were so many of the things that the settlers built a mill and ground them all down for fertilizer.

I will go there and rape my way out till no more danger is present

>>507602658
Same thing happens to little kids. One took a kid on top of a huge mountain, which was verified because he was spotted on it. Then very quickly he wasn't on it and he was fine.

>>507587172 (OP)
Yes, my friend Cian got Missing 411'd on his America trip a few years ago. Hiking in a heavily forested national park. Never been found. We suspect organ harvester kikes kidnap these victim; they're always White men.

>>507608274
He might be alive in the hollow parts of Earth.

>>507608426
He was most likely nutty-putty'd by one of those tiny cave systems, they're often hidden by overgrowth on hiking trails. Worst way to go.

>>507587172 (OP)
That guy looks like an AI smashed together the faces of Alec Baldwin and Steven Segal

>>507607839
>They were everywhere up there, neatly arranged piles of human bones 6-8 feet high
Who did it? There is a documentary on yt on how maori people fled from Mexico or someplace, because it was invaded by darkies that hunted light skinned people. They came to Easter Island but the same thing eventually happened there. The survivors went to NZ but there too some dark skinned psycho cannibals came, and there was war. Anyway, the piles of human bones sound kind of Aztek.

>>507608274
>they're always White men
Most common hikers.

>>507608985
Lol, true.

>>507609252
True, we're the only ones who do.

>>507587172 (OP)
both

literally cherry picking missing persons cases with the least amount of data and just gesturing vaguely at the "mystery"

>>507608819
God that was a sad case. What sticks with me the most from Nutty Putty was something the guy said to a woman who was talking to him, in an attempt to keep him calm
>"Hi Susie, thanks for coming but I really, really want to get out"

They did the right thing imploding the entrance and pouring concrete.

>>507587367
Lion eats mauls them and drag off their bodies without a trace

>>507609153
>Who did it?
Well everyone assumed the maoris did it. They were cannibals after all. Really prolific cannibals. Of course in current year everyone pretends they were like the blue cunts from Avatar but I digress.

>>507609153
There is evidence of Celtic/Norse settlement in the South Island, a few hundred years before our 'natives' arrived from their mythical 'hawaiki' island. I.e stone construction, Celtic runes and iron works unearthed in the middle of the woods. All destroyed now of course.


We had two sets of historically recorded natives. The first, the moriori people, darker skinned, generally red haired and blue eyed people who were passive. Then they all got cannibalized by the maori who arrived around 1500. The last moriori died in the early 1900s.

>>507610332
a friend of mine from new zealand had a joke about that. Went something like there never were any moriori, it was just a maori that couldn't spell.

>>507611451
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>>507607794
>Sauce on the dog with the gps collar? That position track could tell us a lot about what carried him off.

It was on a message board somewhere. I dont recall if it was /x/ on one of the chans or an outdoor forum. There are plenty of first experience stories, just not on the big sites. One of the best encounters with an orb I ever read was a first experiencer on I think old and dead 8cha(n). He was active in the thread so I could ask him questions about how his motorcycle acted up when close to the orb and from that I deduced a techical method for detecting invisible orbs at close range. These entities subtly change physical constants in their near space, most likely because of their wierd zero point energy metabolism, making electrical systems fail in a predictable way.

This also sort of explains the lore of these critters being sensitive to natrium chloride and/or potassium chloride, which is said to set them on fire. They are most likely undergoing an chemical reaction with the chloride, similar to how termite burns, but with chloride instead of oxygen. This should not happen, but if they change physical constants of certain elements in their close proximity its possible they greatly change the electronegativity binding energy of basic elements, meaning that stable bonds like natrium-chloride become unstable and these critters burn in a chloride fire. It also explains why euro fairy lore warns that humans that eat fairy food die.

>>507612352
Human mutilations are the final boss of blackpills. Entire departments work to cover up the existence of extraterrestrial life.. because we are completely powerless to stop them doing shit like pic related. We don't even understand why they do it.

>>507609153

Maoris are infamous for being cannibals well into the modern age, conquering and eating other tribes wholesale. Australian aborginials were also mega cannibals, they ate thousands of people during the great australian gold rush, but the cannibal tribes were wiped in a now forgotten extermination campaign. The abbos were physically larger during this era, strangely enough.

>>507612992
>We don't even understand why they do it.
Yeah we do. Have you ever been to a laboratory? Ever seen animal testing? They treat us the same way we treat animals.

The wilderness kills soft pliable delicate human mammals and the bodies are never found because modern human mammals live in a plastic made up existence and cannot go walk amongst the trees. As technology evolves human mammals devolve, into mush.

i wander miles off trail to hunt. and i do not do it without my 3d download gps terrain maps

sometimes i find cool shit like a hot spring or waterfall to jump in

i leave the color gradient on (how steep the main trail is) to know how much swearing and loud complaining im going to end up doing t. lives in mountains

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>>507612992
I know that bugs/critters will go for the softest tissue first but not to that degree. wtf bros?? spoopy

Ballistic missile launches were detected from Iran towards Israel. Red alert sirens are expected in 5-7 minutes.

>>507613696
new moonman song material just dropped

>>507587172 (OP)
Isn't that the guy who milks the suicide of his son for pity points?

>>507613320
Yeah, but what the fuck are they testing for? When Revlon holds down a dog and puts lipstick on it, the motive is pretty obvious. Probably not to the dog though.
>>507613609
That isn't at all what is happening you disingenuous little cunt. Some of us grew up on farms and know how animals decay.

>>507608274
White people are the only race that actually hikes. You might see ONE Black family at even the busiest national parks among thousands. Asians, Latinos and most browns are similarly disinterested.

>>507614314
fuck no i cant go anywhere without seeing a straight fob chinaman invader that barely speaks English on the trail in California

>hoho hi-hi

>>507587172 (OP)
we don't with certainty, the only path forward is to just ask more questions
I'm not saying that it is blood cults just that it is odd that they never return

>>507614280
>Yeah, but what the fuck are they testing for?
Fuck if I know. You think the chimpanzees know why Revlon is rubbing conditioner in their fur? I've got a theory that this whole planet is some sort of a genetic playground, but who fucking knows. We're just the chimpanzees in this situation.

>>507600396
>albeit minus the supernatural stuff

After years of thinking all bigfoot stuff was trash, I applied Jacques Vallee's UFO theories to same and it's FAR more reasonable (IMO) than 'Bigfoot is a real creature, like a lion or bear, out in the forest and we can't see them because they're hiding from us in a normal, animal way.'

>>507605377
It's entirely plausible. You walk past literally thousands of trees whenever you walk through these areas and very quickly they just become part of the background static of the environment. If a tree moved when you weren't looking, would you even notice? If you did, you'd assume you just made a mistake.

>>507587172 (OP)
>Do people really disappear in national parks mysteriously and without a trace or is this guy a snake oil salesman?
Yeah it's called bears and mountain lions

>>507614280
>Yeah, but what the fuck are they testing for?

One theory is that they are testing for prion disease as the parts they take tend to be the parts of the body that accumulate free floating prions or are infected first.

>>507604125
Or it's just wolves, bears and lions you silly fuck - you know things that hunt humans in the woods but actually exist

>>507608985
I thought it was one of them!!

>>507587172 (OP)
It's called Nature. Grizzly bears and Cougars leaving little behind to find.
or people falling into gorges and shit. tumbling down into the brush hundreds of feet. No research crew is going to find you. not at night nor daytime. not with FLIR once your body goes cold.
Also Alex Jones talked about the same shit in the late 1990s when he was starting off. 1999-2000. Talking about how the Parks were closing and mysterious shit going on.

who knows. Alex knows how to sell that snake oil.

They get lost, eaten by wild animals, murdered, or abducted.

Actually, the parks and highways are some of killers’ most favorite hunting grounds for obvious reasons.

>>507587367
Humans made an agreement ayys could experiment on people in federal park land.

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>>507600684
Except for the part about beyond surgical precision when it comes to cattle mutilation and all the blood being drained.

>>507617496
its getting lost, dieing to exposure and thrist

>>507587172 (OP)
>daves new moive is in the works
>shilling against him immediately starts
Kys parks glow nigger

>>507612714
>These entities subtly change physical constants in their near space, most likely because of their wierd zero point energy metabolism, making electrical systems fail in a predictable way
Can you go into that a little more? Detection is a personal interest.

>>507613233
>The abbos were physically larger during this era
They remind me of "Big Foot".

>>507609950
>the maoris did it
Likely

>>507590144
>bring awareness to a problem most haven't heard of
>ups the spook factor for entertainment value
>makes dosh while doing so
Don't really see the problem

>>507587172 (OP)
there's a kernel of truth to what he's saying but he's pretty notorious for twisting facts and im guessing the government agencies he harasses have started telling him to fuck off because he tries to sensationalize and make stories bigger than they are. a lot of his premise is
>elite ranger american heroes went out and looked and they couldn't find anything so it must be aliens"
and also his criteria are
>a lot of the people who go missing are children, old folk, retards, and cripples
>a lot of the people who go missing are of german descent (the biggest ethnic group that makes up white americans)
>always around lots of ROCKS and WATER
he probably has a handful of legit strange cases among the thousands he has documented

>>507613587
Used OnX my last hunt in demo mode, definitely buying it for this season.

>>507614549
California hiking trails on a Saturday are a microcosm of everything wrong with that state.
>t. tortured myself a couple of times in Donner Pass and other spots

>>507611601
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>>507612992
what am I supposed to make of this?

>>507587172 (OP)
>Huck told me the truth

>>507620424
>Can you go into that a little more? Detection is a personal interest.

Judging from what the motorcycle guy told me about how his headlights and electronics failed, the orb disabled the condensator in the rectifier by causing the dielectric to become conductive. The motorcycle alternator worked just fine, the rectifier failed to produce steady DC voltage, leading to the motorcycle headlights flickering and the electronics malfunctioning.

You could easily exploit this to make an invisible orb presence detector by measuring the current trough a DC circuit interrupted by a condensator. The orbs metabolism is based on consuming infinite vacuum energy. The permutation of natural constants is probably caused by the orbs "feces" from this process, meaning that they cant hide this.

>>507622361
i know, i use for everything

i don't use googleshit maps because i refuse to use google faggot anything on principle, instead i put address in OnX for everyday stuff

Aren't there vast cave networks that cover the US and a lot of them situated under national parks? Hell I can only imagine all the cave entrances and shit you could wander or fall into. Not saying weird shit doesn't happen however

>>507587172 (OP)
Yes check out the map overlay of missing people and cave networks.
Blood drinking Goblin people. Literal cannibal humanoid underground dwellers sometimes come up to snack on unsuspecing campers. Aggressive mimicry, look like human but are not. Shared common ancestor.
Even the ones who live in cities and try to blend in still cant help themselves and end up building tunnels.

>>507624521
>>507624522

Its not the caves in themselves, they are empty and dead, but they also serve as convenient exit and entrance points to the hidden underground pockets of compressed space time that these paranormal critters normally reside inside.

F.ex there is one such pocket of compressed space time underneath New Jersey and the recent drone vs orb battle was related to that pocket. I am absolutely sure of that due to the geology of New Jersey.

>>507587172 (OP)
David Paulides is a National hero for shedding light on the horrors and phase shifts of these areas on Earth. Bigfoot aren't what you think they are. Faggot

>>507599489
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1750102966570387.webm

>>507600396
That's a Jawa from Tatouin on holiday in Endor

>>507602267
That's the coolest thing I've learned all week

>>507587172 (OP)
some random mutt rapes them to death and digs a deep hole somewhere and theyre never to be found again.
now the schizoid muttlanders spin some crazy story about gayliens or sasquatsch over it.

never gets old

>>507587172 (OP)

Sometimes sasquatch feed on humans.

>>507587172 (OP)
Steven Segal used to look normal

>>507626442
know what does get old? you pakis pretending to be german and white, typing the same garbage over and over again

>>507587172 (OP)
Look into laylines where people dissapper. Interesting stuff with hotspots in certain areas

>>507627159
this actually has an audience (the crazy stories)
not even pakis would be this stupid
way to go mutts

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>>507627473
>not even pakis would be this stupi

nigger dont bullshit the bullshitter. you are talking about one of the most dumbshit inbred races on the planet

nobodys buying it

>>507618571
found yet another jew

>>507592367
Aromatic food isn't even relevant for predators such as grizzlies and big kittehs. They can smell your butthole from 20 miles away. They immediately sense a new rare butthole type on the block and lunge for it like, well, the predators they are. They can smell your diet from your butthole aroma which tells them you're a big boy and the most exquisite of rawmeat diet meals.
Also, they can smell the perfumes of all the bullshit soap you used on yourself and your clothes before going into the wilderness like a faggot. A few decades ago, these smells would scare them but nowadays they know these smells mean a succulent nutritive fatass is near, roaming aimlessly like a retard.

>>507587172 (OP)
No yea they do. Used to bury hobos in the Tonto

>>507587172 (OP)
There's portals and trapdoors into the inner earth. That's how humans are harvested by reptilians.

Some cases he presents are either missing crucial data, or presented in a way they come off as supernatural, where as in reality the real explanation is fairly straightforward.
Whether that's intentional or due to a lack of available data who the fuck knows, but I'm leaning on the former.
However there are some cases that are genuinely just so fucking weird, that they can't be explained without some external force that simply picks people up.
Tracks don't just suddenly end in the middle of the snow, nor do people travel 20 miles in a day in a raging blizzard without shoes on.
I do also think that the forest and park services is involved in something really fucky, as they try to avoid publishing data.

I however don't much care for the culty vibes I get from the community aspect he subtly throws in. He knows exactly what's he's doing with that shit.
If he can create a "family" around him, that's a group of people who will forever throw money at him.
There's definitely a really strong monetary side to his work and he does seem to have a bit of an ego, even if he's mostly genuine which I think he is.

>>507612992

Human mutilation is peak spooky and no one wants to talk about it as it's such a fucked up subject.
Here's an interesting documentary about it in the UK. Worth a watch. Apparently the military had a unit for the mutilated body retrieval as it was so plentiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdJXAGrcN-E

>>507629757
>Human mutilation is peak spooky and no one wants to talk about it as it's such a fucked up subject.
We know it happens and we know it's not just crows and vultures. And we know that officials have been continuously lying about it.

>>507626442
untersberg has the same phenomenon happening as what paulides (though he is a hack) describes, you demystified modern nigger

>>507631613

This is one reason why I think that UFO disclosure won't really happen by the powers that be, because the state would have to admit that the aliens are doing this and there's nothing we can do about it.
Or even worse and something I actually consider more likely, they're doing this with the permit of our governments, just so humanity can get some tech or other space age crap in exchange.

>>507632454
The most stable rumor has always been that the Feds made a deal with the Greys or a Grey faction. Supposedly tech exchange for limited biological sampling. Presumably some of this was joint teams because the US almost assuredly was doing some fieldwork sampling for nuclear fallout in the Cold War. The Greys went ahead and did whatever they felt like doing.
The worse rumor is that the Greys left and someone else is coming.

>>507632800
>The most stable rumor has always been that the Feds made a deal with the Greys or a Grey faction.


Alright thats enough
Roll this shit on over to >>>/x/

>>507629188
checkem
you sir won the /pol/ poetry award for today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlBskd3IaNw

>>507592066
the fact he used to write bigfoot fanfic before switching over to mysterious disappearances doesn't really help.
still his documentaries and the cases are quite interesting, it's just that he frames them as way more needlessly mysterious and spooky than they actually are.
he found an interesting niche and creates entertaining content, but that's it.
is it a grift? yeah to some degree, but who cares? it's spoopy, eerie and thrilling.
we'll never get a proper 100% answer on any of the cases tho.
on another note - does anyone know why his son -ACK'd himself?

>>507587172 (OP)
Only white people. Poc know to stay on the trails whereas whites people frequently leave the trails at night because they’re retarded and have poor eyesight.

>>507609704
nightmare

>>507614549
just get out of Cali, it's hell

>>507615473
>picrel
quick rundown

>>507587172 (OP)
This guy admitted that the people that went missing were always the ones that weren't prepared for the outdoor activities.